Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

[Drunkmasterflex]

you know what youre getting with mcnabb and its only going to get worse

This X infinity. I only wish it didn't take me 11 years to come to grips with this. Trade 5 now...or sooner. 

Yeah that is exactly how I feel.  I have been a big defender of his for the last 10-11 years but he continues to prove the critics right. 

[ice grillin you]

"My position hasn't changed," McNabb said in a statement released to the Inquirer. "I said all along that I would like to win a Super Bowl and finish my career in Philadelphia. I understand the situation well, and just hope whichever direction the Eagles decide to go in, they do it quickly. I think that would be best for me, Kevin, Michael, the Eagles and any other teams involved. No matter what happens, I have already begun preparing to have an outstanding season in 2010."

pretty big deal that he acknowledges accepts and even promotes a quick resolution to this and that resolution is that he could be gone

[PhillyPhreak54]

All of you are nuts.

They could win the SB if they gave enough of shtein to put forth the effort to build a team to win it. And you know what, 5 would be the guy to win it for them.

But yeah, you are all right....trade him for an unknown who holds the ball forever and throws picks...why? Well to blow it up and start over!

[Drunkmasterflex]

All of you are nuts.

They could win the SB if they gave enough of shtein to put forth the effort to build a team to win it. And you know what, 5 would be the guy to win it for them.

But yeah, you are all right....trade him for an unknown who holds the ball forever and throws picks...why? Well to blow it up and start over!

Agreed Kolb holds the ball too long, but christ Jay he has only had 2 NFL starts.  I've defended 5 for a long time, but really when I take a step back and look at it he isn't that great.  Look at his playoff record and rating.  And look at the SB that is all you really need to know right there.

That is a pretty big deal him acknowledging the situation.  I hold no ill will towards the guy, he has given us as Eagles fans one of the most successful runs in franchise history.  Bottom line is he is gone after this season anyway so why not get something for him?

[PhillyPhreak54]

I just don't agree and I very well could be wrong and Kolb ends up having a Rodgers like ascent to a top-10 QB in the NFL.

He's gone next year? Not if they trade Kolb and extend McNabb.

Donovan is what, 32-33? He's got 4 solid years left. There's no reason he can't win a SB here if given the help to do so.

Beef up and get some farging attitude on defense and fix the OL; now that they have the playmakers at the skill positions they could win it with him.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I just don't see them trading Kolb unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

[rjs246]

Desperation is a stinky cologne, phreak.

[DH]

Jay, I love you dude, but its time.

[ice grillin you]

yeah cobb was reading nfl defenses for the first two times in his life this year...who wouldnt be a little hesitant

and mcnabb couldnt win a supebowl when the eagles had sb caliber teams now they are mediocre at best and hes gonna finally do it?

its just amazing to me that after a decade of having good enough teams to win it all people are still asking to give mcnabb more...why doesnt farging puke breath give more for once...why is it always poor donnie didnt have enough help...you had enough help to get to six championship games...step up and get your team over the hump just once...

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'm going down with the ship.

I refuse to acknowledge that they will be a better team without Donovan because I simply do not believe it. I think the reasons that are given that they would be better without him are not sound and mostly backed by people simply not liking him.

Like I said, I could be wrong and they will deal him and Kolb steps in to be Football Jesus. If that happens, I was wrong. Big deal and we're all happy because the Birds are winning.

But I simply believe McNabb is and will be the better QB for this team.

Focus elsewhere, front office. Fix the farging defense. Its chock full of backups and Hoydas.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I don't think anybody is saying they will be a better team without Donovan, at least not initially.  It is just time to move on. 

[General_Failure]

I refuse to acknowledge that they will be a better team without Donovan because I simply do not believe it. I think the reasons that are given that they would be better without him are not sound and mostly backed by people simply not liking him.

Try this one. The Eagles have been better off without McNabb because Reid calls a more balanced game without him in the lineup. Give these skill players a balanced, less predictable offense and even MDS might sport three hard inches.

[rjs246]

Not to mention the fac that Kolb doesn't have to be football jesus to be good enough to win a championship.

[smeags]

Jay, I love you dude, but its time.

i have to agree here. it is time to move on.

[ice grillin you]

I refuse to acknowledge that they will be a better team without Donovan because I simply do not believe it. I think the reasons that are given that they would be better without him are not sound and mostly backed by people simply not liking him.

Try this one. The Eagles have been better off without McNabb because Reid calls a more balanced game without him in the lineup. Give these skill players a balanced, less predictable offense and even MDS might sport three hard inches.

reid aint changing...hes throws like 57-58% of the time...what is that supposed to go down to...50?...not going to happen

reids main problem is not balance its WHEN to throw and not to throw...his situational play calling is atrocious...and thats not something you magically get better at...we could also talk about in game adjustments...clock management ect...but thats another topic

we know donovan cant run this offense...lets see if someone else can

I don't think anybody is saying they will be a better team without Donovan, at least not initially.  It is just time to move on. 

exactly...why is this so hard to understand...it has nothing to do with cobb...what is the point in treading water for another 3-4 years...its time to move forward no matter who the next qb is

but move beyond the general notion of having anyone but mcnabb at qb...the time is perfect to go with the guy you invested greatly in