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Started by ice grillin you, April 25, 2009, 11:18:44 PM

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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2009, 03:00:24 AM
forget reid

rookie wr's dont do shtein period

Normally true, but for whatever those small speed guys seemed to have had something last year.  I think the trend continues.  I was absolutely ecstatic about both picks yesterday.  I give them an A. 
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Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 26, 2009, 03:01:18 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2009, 03:00:24 AM
forget reid

rookie wr's dont do shtein period

anquon boldin and randy moss say hi

And Eddie Royal, and Calvin Johnson, and Andre Johnson, etc and so on.


But more often than not, they don't do shtein their first year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

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Maclin = C+

I don't like the WR in the first round very much and would have preferred Pettigrew, who would probably see the field on offense more than Maclin.  That said, watch Andy make me eat my words and immediately get Maclin in the top 3 rotation of WR's and in on KR's.

EDIT: Peters = A

Look at the players available at #28 yesterday.  The Eagles did well to trade that pick away for someone that can help them win now.

McCoy = A-

He may be a hell of a football player, but I hope he can pick up the Eagles blocking schemes.  Smarter guys haven't been able to.  Anyway, I would have picked him hands-down at that point also.  Very good value for the late 2nd round.

Overall = A- (edited)

Good job.  Pettigrew in the first would have been an A overall.  Trading one of the remaining picks for Boldin would have been an A++.  The Eagles need to win now and might have gotten some picks to do it yesterday.  Or might not have.
Edit: I had forgotten about trading 28 for Peters.  Taking that pick off the board was a great move.

rjs246

Maclin: C for need, A for value.
Peters trade: B for need, B for value.
McCoy: A+ for need, B for value.

I think eventually I'll be happier that they drafted Maclin, but right now I just see too many other positions that need help.
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Rome

Peters is a Pro Bowler, Maclin was a consensus top 10 pick that fell into their laps, and McCoy was a guy that a lot of draft dorks had them taking in the first round.

None of us know how it's going to work out, but on paper?  Yesterday has to grade out as an all-time haul for quantity and quality.

A+

rjs246

You're right. my only beef is that the team had much bigger needs than WR.
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Rome

If Moreno was still on the board and they went with Maclin then I would have thrown a thrombo.  Since he wasn't and McCoy fell into their laps later I'm fine with the pick.

I'm just happy Reid didn't pull his usual "we're smarter than everyone else" bullshtein by picking some farger like the Raiders did in the second.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2009, 07:42:40 AM
Peters is a Pro Bowler, Maclin was a consensus top 10 pick that fell into their laps, and McCoy was a guy that a lot of draft dorks had them taking in the first round.

None of us know how it's going to work out, but on paper?  Yesterday has to grade out as an all-time haul for quantity and quality.

A+

Reminds me of when Bunkley dropped to 14 and Justice slipped to the second round.

Feva

Maclin = B+

Originally, I liked it but I couldn't help thinking... "Well, if you're going to go WR in the 1st... why not send it to ARZ?"... but in reality, if that can't get done, they still came away with the 2nd rated WR and a player who could have been a top 10 pick, and only used a 6th to go get him.  That's pretty damn good.

McCoy = A

I came into this draft wanting Knowshon... bad... and I was pissed like hell when Denver snatched him up.  But other than him, more than Donald Brown, more than Beanie... I wanted Shady.  Reid obviously loves the scatbacks and Shady is a damn good one.  If he can show he can learn the protection, he can actually get on the field and we might see some of those split back sets that were supposed to happen with Booker.



Overall Day 1 = A-

For what was presented to them, they did a damn good job of snatching up some playmakers.  This draft is about the skill positions for the Eagles and they brought in two explosive ones.  Can't knock that.  If they both pan out, this offense has a great set of skillplayers for the next half-decade or so.
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I say Day 1 gets a B+.....it'll become an A after we see these 2 guys contrinute.  Maclin was a surprize pick and I even forgot he was still available when the pick came up.  I was like "WTF" but they stuck to the board and took the Best Available.  I was also happy McCoy fell since some had him going in the 1st.

On a side note, people are bitching about a "big back" again.  Do people forget that Leonard Weaver can carry the ball and did so effectively in Seattle?  He's your "big back" people - and don't forget the O-Line is much improved for the run and should get more of a push then in the past.  You can also Stick Cole in at LG, Manneans out to LT, and use Peters as a "blocking" TE in goal line and short yardage situations.....
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Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2009, 07:42:40 AM
Maclin was a consensus top 10 pick
nah...he went 19th.

i don't expect either guy to do much this season...but they'll be a couple nice weapons for cobb to work with in a few years.
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Quote from: rjs246 on April 26, 2009, 07:44:09 AM
my only beef is that the team had much bigger needs than WR.

First time that could be said in the AR era.  Seriously, did you ever think you would be able to say that about an AR team sans the TO saga?
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Quote from: Butchers Bill on April 26, 2009, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 26, 2009, 07:44:09 AM
my only beef is that the team had much bigger needs than WR.

First time that could be said in the AR era.  Seriously, did you ever think you would be able to say that about an AR team sans the TO saga?

I've never been an 'oh my god the team needs a WR!' guy, but yeah as far as I'm concerned they were good enough there to focus on other things. I don't knock the pick though. Lots of talent and should fit into the offense since he has experience running short routes.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.