Grade Day 1

[PhillyPhreak54]

moreno
ayers
smith


name me any team that took three better players than those

Well, I guess the way I see it, and the way others see it...those guys are good, and I like each of them. But how do they fit there. They went out and signed three backs, have another three on hand...and they traded a one next year for Smith.

Trading a one, with Kyle Orton as your QB and a suspect defense, is dangerous. If they shtein the bed and end up giving up a high pick, was Smith really worth it then?

[ice grillin you]

if smith is as good a player as people think he will be then it was worth it...i mean you can over analyze anything and come up with a reason why a pick was bad but a great player is a great player and i think the broncos got arguably three players who were the best at their respective positons in the entire draft...and thats a pretty crazy thing to be able to say

i could rip the macklin pick by saying they drafted pimp last year why do they need another smallish wr when thats basically all they have...so how does he fit?...but instead its a great pick because macklin is a superior talent who fell...broncos basically did what the eagles do and that is to take the best player regardless of "fit"...but somehow it good for one team but not the other?

[mussa]

love the picks. offensive weapons is exactly what they needed. really like the McCoy pick. now a healthy dose of the running game and i could get half excited about the season.  

[ice grillin you]

they drafted a playmaking wr #1...i wouldnt get too excited about a running game

[PhillyPhreak54]

Point taken, but it seemed to me that DEN didn't have a plan. Those three could pan out, but I'm just not in love with their draft. Their whole approach to the offseason has seemed clusterfargish...but maybe I'm not seeing what you are.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I don't get the Robert Ayers deal, he was one of those guys that suddenly sky rocketed up the charts.  He is a solid player I just don't see him as a 3-4 guy. 

[ice grillin you]

i think ayers is easily the best DE in this draft...granted not a strong class at that position but i really like him


and im not talking offseason j...i hated the cutler trade for them...im strictly talking what they got in the last two days compared to other teams

[Drunkmasterflex]

i think ayers is easily the best DE in this draft...granted not a strong class at that position but i really like him


and im not talking offseason j...i hated the cutler trade for them...im strictly talking what they got in the last two days compared to other teams

I like Orakpo, I don't buy the looks like Tarzan plays like Jane analogy, got to see him quite a bit he is a big time player.  Hate to see the Skins get him.  They were listing Ayers as a LB, which kind of surprises me. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

i think ayers is easily the best DE in this draft...granted not a strong class at that position but i really like him


and im not talking offseason j...i hated the cutler trade for them...im strictly talking what they got in the last two days compared to other teams

Ok, I was looking at more of it as a whole, with the draft being an extension. I still don't dig the draft. But I wanted Smith, so I like him. I thought they would take a DE/LB type because Jarvis Moss sucks, I just read on PFT that they were offering him up for a 7th rounder.

I wonder if they'll still run the same running scheme since Shanahan is gone? If they do, taking Moreno that high kind of doesn't make sense.

Just a confusing plan to me.

[ice grillin you]

orakpo is so stiff...and i dont see the quickness needed to get off the edge in the pros....imo hes gonna get merked by nfl tackles...and this is coming from a taterskin fan

[PhillyPhreak54]

Him getting picked by the taterskins pissed a lot of people off down here. Most Cowboy fans are Texas fans, and seeing him throw on that hat/jersey and say he wanted to be in Washington made all the UT/Boys fans vomit.

And Cris Carter said he could be ROY playing next to Haynesworth.

I'm shocked Dannyboy drafted a lineman.

[Drunkmasterflex]

orakpo is so stiff...and i dont see the quickness needed to get off the edge in the pros....imo hes gonna get merked by nfl tackles...and this is coming from a taterskin fan

not being a smart ass but how many times have you seen him play? he is extremely quick off the ball, he was dominant against OU this year. 

[ice grillin you]

quick off the ball in college does not mean quick off the ball against nfl tackles...hes got a pretty body but i dont see him translating to the nfl

florida de's dominated oklahoma in the national championship game and they were all young and none of tem other than cunningham has a chance at being a good pro

[Don Ho]

orakpo is so stiff...and i dont see the quickness needed to get off the edge in the pros....imo hes gonna get merked by nfl tackles...and this is coming from a taterskin fan

not being a smart ass but how many times have you seen him play? he is extremely quick off the ball, he was dominant against OU this year. 

I think 98% of us on here are smart asses.

[Feva]

orakpo is so stiff...and i dont see the quickness needed to get off the edge in the pros....imo hes gonna get merked by nfl tackles...and this is coming from a taterskin fan

I generally agree... as I wasn't overly impressed with Orakpo either, but he is a good athlete and playing next to Haynesworth could make him look a lot better than he is.