Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Diomedes]

we dragged teevees out onto the floor at the soup kitchen today at noon for the oath and his speech...I'm sure that did not happen for any other president before

[phillymic2000]

Palestine is a caged starved wounded animal flailing about.  Israel is the fat sadistic self satisfied trapper.  They are each playing their role to a tee.

I didn't know caged starving animals get millions of dollars yearly to better their life. You are right in some ways, it seems the leaders and scum of Palastine are the animals starving their people.

[Diomedes]

If Palestinians get millions, Israel gets billions.  But alright, we've said enough on this for now.  You win.  I luv me sum Palestinians.

[ice grillin you]

michelle obamas hands are friggin enormous

[Magical_Retard]

WTF are you talking about phillymic2000?

There was a truce for 6 months which ended on Dec 19. Hamas then shot rockets into Israel because they claim Israel destroyed a tunnel they were constructing in Gaza. Hamas also claims that in destroying that tunnel they killed 2 workers. So in their minds/view Israel broke the truce even before Dec 19.

And even if these rockets were being shot...its akin to someone throwing a rock at you and you turning around running over their body with your car, getting out running into their house raping their mother, wife, and daughters, and then executing the men of the house. The self defense line is BS and is as fake as THEY HATE OUR FREEDOMS!

Its like when Israel claims they had to blow up a school because a rocket was shot out of there...but when oops they end up killing hundreds of kids they claim "WELL HAMAS WAS USING THEM". Well then if you knew that Hamas was using the school as a shield why did you bomb it anyway? Either way you look at it they do not care about the Palestinian civilians. And why should they? Any civilian they kill they can easily bury under the "THEY WERE BEING USED AS A SHIELD ANYWAY...NOT OUR FAULT".

As for aid...Hamas is going to get tons of aid now to rebuilt. But as soon as they were elected they were sanctioned to hell with economic and political blockades and were rendered useless. Not saying they would have governed well but when you get elected and are immediately crippled you can not be expected to run a govt at all. So they use their tiny little brains and retaliate.

Your attempts at trying to pain Gaza, or Palestine, as some sort of luxurious place flooded with money and aid from foreign nations is also laughable. 79% of the Palestinians live in poverty. Its a crap hole. Its Israel that lives in luxury. And before you go claim Hamas stole their money read up on how Hamas became popular. They actually do a lot more than fail at killing Israelis. They run the hospitals and provide food when they can. Things which previous parties could not do/would not do because they were caught stealing the foreign aid and keeping it for themselves. Hamas became the ppl's party when they came out as the opposing party to corruption. Plus they got stuff done. Expecting them to re build Palestine when its constantly being illegally settled on all the while economically being blocked is a ludicrous claim.

But even with all that said...if Israel really has a right to defend itself and kill as many ppl as their blood lust desires it should be with their own money and their own weapons. Not with the US tax payers money. 

[ATV]

So sorry you farged with a tougher country, learn your farging lesson

How thankful am I that people with this simplistic mindset are no longer running our foreign policy? Good farging grief.

I think it's genuinely admirable, though, of some folks on here to share their hope that Obama will be a great President - Even though you may disagree with some of his policies, that is. I just wanted to make sure these people knew that their old daddy is very, very upset with them....

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/20/limbaugh-obama-fail/

[ATV]

Some people already knew it was going to be that bad....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAp6YAPtC2c

I wasn't one of them.

I most mostly apathetic. But I wasn't one of the morons who voted for him in 2004.

[Diomedes]

Some people already knew it was going to be that bad....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAp6YAPtC2c

I'm proud to say I was part of that inauguration protest, along with my (now) wife and my mother.  We did the "turn your back on Bush" thing standing on the parade route.  That really pissed off the Bush lovers around us..they were insulted, disgusted; didn't think we had a right to make a peaceful, quiet protest.  True to form for Bush lovers.

Finally, the Bush nightmare is over.

[Seabiscuit36]

I'm gonna write a letter to Dub to see if i can visit Crawford to go hunting with the big guy

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

A new President deserves his opportunity to do his job.  A second term President has earned the alienation of many, and protest should be expected.  Even Obama won't be able to keep many Americans happy, and that includes people that want him to do well.

There will always be the people that will disagree with one ideology regardless of its effectiveness or lack thereof.  Those closed-minded douches should avoid reproducing.

I hope Obama does well and his policies effect positive change.  And like I said, I really don't care if he gets credit where its undeserved, as long as it WORKS.

[Geowhizzer]

My theory is that a president gets too much credit for a good economy, and too much blame for a bad economy.

Much of the programs put in place by an administration aren't really effectieve one way or another until after that administration leaves.

Most of us believe that Bush's term was ineffective, and rightly so.  His handling of the war, and many decisions for domestic issues went against not only popular opinion (not necessarily a bad thing), but also against common understanding of what is Constitutional (which is).

In my opinion, Bush is not solely to blame for the current economy.  The behavior of many in business, and even in the masses (credit cards, etc) over the course of the last several decades have snowballed into the current crisis.  Certainly Bush did not help, and perhaps accelerated the downturn in the economy, but this situation has been brewing for sometime now. 

George Santayana once said something to the effect of those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.  Apparently we learned nothing from the 1920s - constant buying on credit is a bad thing when things go slightly wrong.  And, here we are.  Again.

Hopefully Obama can figure out something to help allevieate the symptoms.  Unfortunately, things are much more likely to get worse before we reach rock bottom, no matter what is done in the highest offices in government. 

[rjs246]

The one thing where we CAN point directly at Bush though, in terms of the nation's economy, is the amount of money that has been dumped into an unpopular and unfounded war. The country went from budget surplus to massive deficit based almost entirely on the cost of the Iraq war and that is squarely on Bush/Cheney's shoulders.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

My theory is that a president gets too much credit for a good economy, and too much blame for a bad economy.

This is a fact, not a theory.

In my opinion, Bush is not solely to blame for the current economy.  The behavior of many in business, and even in the masses (credit cards, etc) over the course of the last several decades have snowballed into the current crisis.  Certainly Bush did not help, and perhaps accelerated the downturn in the economy, but this situation has been brewing for sometime now. 

George Santayana once said something to the effect of those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.  Apparently we learned nothing from the 1920s - constant buying on credit is a bad thing when things go slightly wrong.  And, here we are.  Again.

Yep.  There are two groups of people to blame: the people that continually spent more than they could afford (especially on housing) and the people/companies that facilitated and enabled the debt-fueled spending.

Mortgages didn't become commonplace until 50 years ago.  Loans were generally used for emergencies only.  As debt-fueled spending has grown over time, prices have inflated to meet the new "limits" of what people can afford.  Then, when those values became obviously inflated, the people and banks who bet that they would continue to rise forever got completely screwed... and thus, we all got screwed in the end.

Hopefully Obama can figure out something to help allevieate the symptoms.  Unfortunately, things are much more likely to get worse before we reach rock bottom, no matter what is done in the highest offices in government. 

The more "bailouts" and quick fixes we see, the longer we are from truly reaching the bottom.  It's not necessarily a bad thing at all to avoid a complete collapse of our banking system and economy, but we definitely haven't hit bottom yet IMO.

The one thing where we CAN point directly at Bush though, in terms of the nation's economy, is the amount of money that has been dumped into an unpopular and unfounded war. The country went from budget surplus to massive deficit based almost entirely on the cost of the Iraq war and that is squarely on Bush/Cheney's shoulders.

The war was about half of the problem.  The sagging economy (and specifically the end of the "dot com" boom) caused a sharp downturn in personal and corporate tax revenue.  This, however, was also made worse by Bush reducing taxes.

[ATV]

I'm gonna write a letter to Dub to see if i can visit Crawford to go hunting with the big guy

Better do it soon.  My guess is it was just a prop to get him elected - To help make him look Down Home instead of the overpriveledged frat boy he really was. Let's see how long it takes him to sell it.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yeah, because a lot of poor people own 1600-acre ranches.