Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Susquehanna Birder]

Competency has been restored.

I didn't realize infallibility was on his resume.

[ATV]

I'm sure Hamas has invested in a quality sewer and water system, and a quality road system for it's people.

Says the person who surely supported our repeated efforts to provide electricity to Iraq.

Maybe our tax dollars will goto rebuilding the thousands ands thousands of Palestinian builings that were blown to shtein by the Israeli weapons that were paid for by our tax dollars.

[phattymatty]

some of you freaks are crazy.  today was a city-wide party and it was awesome.  it was amazing to see people from all over the country getting along, dancing, singling, smiling, hugging strangers.  saw breakdancers, a group of people dancing dressed as polar bears, people in obama super hero costumes, and lots of other weird shtein.  but it was all in good fun.  easily one of the coolest things i've ever been a part of.

[Diomedes]

And in other news, Israel used white phosphorus in its recent terror campaign against Gaza civilians.  Of course, they also used the chemical against Lebanon recently.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7831424.stm

And why shouldn't they use it?  The U.S. used it in Iraq, so it's cool, no worries.

International rules of engagement says you can use it for illumination on the battle field no?

Edit: I think it's great that in response to a few rockets which killed almost no one, launched from a third world ghetto, a first world techno giant killed more than a thousand civilians and maimed thousands more. 

Those rules allow for it's usage on a battlefield, not an urban ghetto.  It is allowed only for engagements with very low civilian casualty population because the stuff burns everything it lands on (after it has done it's intended job of lighting up the scene) until it runs out of oxygen.  If a spatter of it drops on you, it burns all the way through bone, for example, unless you can submerge the affected area in water, etc.  Usage of the stuff on Gaza, in Falluja--illegal by all definitions--is as much terrorism as anything else.

Regarding the rest of your post, thanks Rush but I've heard that crap already.

[phillymic2000]

I'm sure Hamas has invested in a quality sewer and water system, and a quality road system for it's people.

Says the person who surely supported our repeated efforts to provide electricity to Iraq.

Maybe our tax dollars will goto rebuilding the thousands ands thousands of Palestinian builings that were blown to shtein by the Israeli weapons that were paid for by our tax dollars.

I'm sure we have given cash to Palastine. I'd love to know what Hamaas has done with the Hundred of Millions of dollars that the international community has given them. How was the sewer and water treatment plants before the war? How was the infastructure? Betcha bottom dollar that they used a tiny tiny tiny bit on it. Love to see that report. But who would expect you to hold Hamas accountable to anything, I mean they are the elected leadership of Palastine. I'm sure they are looking for ways to better the life for their people that elected them. Never mind forgive me concentrate on Israel and their bastadly deeds defending themselves.

[phillymic2000]

And in other news, Israel used white phosphorus in its recent terror campaign against Gaza civilians.  Of course, they also used the chemical against Lebanon recently.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7831424.stm

And why shouldn't they use it?  The U.S. used it in Iraq, so it's cool, no worries.

International rules of engagement says you can use it for illumination on the battle field no?

Edit: I think it's great that in response to a few rockets which killed almost no one, launched from a third world ghetto, a first world techno giant killed more than a thousand civilians and maimed thousands more. 

Those rules allow for it's usage on a battlefield, not an urban ghetto.  It is allowed only for engagements with very low civilian casualty population because the stuff burns everything it lands on (after it has done it's intended job of lighting up the scene) until it runs out of oxygen.  If a spatter of it drops on you, it burns all the way through bone, for example, unless you can submerge the affected area in water, etc.  Usage of the stuff on Gaza, in Falluja--illegal by all definitions--is as much terrorism as anything else.

Regarding the rest of your post, thanks Rush but I've heard that crap already.

Well as long as it was only a few (thousand) rockets. Look man They farged with a bigger badder country, power wise. What the farg to you expect. Israel warned them over and over. What the farg did you wat them to do? Continue to get rockets day after day? Hamas has done shtein to turn palastine around, nada!! their people are worse off today, or before the war. but luckily Hamas leaders are delcaring victory today, so why are you complaining?

[Diomedes]

It's true that Israel blows them up so regularly that nothing can serious can get built.  Which is to say nothing of Israel's blockades and checkpoints, which make moving people and good (kinda necessary for building something) extremely difficult when times are "good" and impossible the rest of the time.

And no, we have not given tons of money to Hamas.  Our money and weapons go to Israel.

[phillymic2000]

And in other news, Israel used white phosphorus in its recent terror campaign against Gaza civilians.  Of course, they also used the chemical against Lebanon recently.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7831424.stm

And why shouldn't they use it?  The U.S. used it in Iraq, so it's cool, no worries.

International rules of engagement says you can use it for illumination on the battle field no?

Edit: I think it's great that in response to a few rockets which killed almost no one, launched from a third world ghetto, a first world techno giant killed more than a thousand civilians and maimed thousands more.  

Those rules allow for it's usage on a battlefield, not an urban ghetto.  It is allowed only for engagements with very low civilian casualty population because the stuff burns everything it lands on (after it has done it's intended job of lighting up the scene) until it runs out of oxygen.  If a spatter of it drops on you, it burns all the way through bone, for example, unless you can submerge the affected area in water, etc.  Usage of the stuff on Gaza, in Falluja--illegal by all definitions--is as much terrorism as anything else.

Regarding the rest of your post, thanks Rush but I've heard that crap already.

And yet you continue to defend these scum bags who use civilians as shields, and hide in religious places and neighborhoods to strike out. Yay scum bags!

[Diomedes]

Well as long as it was only a few (thousand) rockets. Look man They farged with a bigger badder country, power wise. What the farg to you expect. Israel warned them over and over. What the farg did you wat them to do? Continue to get rockets day after day? Hamas has done shtein to turn palastine around, nada!! their people are worse off today, or before the war. but luckily Hamas leaders are delcaring victory today, so why are you complaining?

Over the years, yes a few thousand.  During this recent war, Hamas managed a couple dozen per day, against wave after wave of top rate air force bombing runs and chemical warfare.  Israel has not made a serious attempt to address the core, valid greivances of the Palestinian people.  They have relegated millions to rank poverty and subjected them at every turn to violence, humiliation, and deprival.

What could they do?  Stop supporting and dismantle the settlements that continue to grow on Internationally recognized Palestinian land...for a start.

[Diomedes]

And yet you continue to defend these scum bags who use civilians as shields, and hide in religious places and neighborhoods to strike out. Yay scum bags!

Um...they don't have anywhere else to go.  They fight where they live and use what they have.  If they had tanks and drone aircraft, they'd use those.  They don't.

Meanwhile you continue to celebrate Israel's right to shoot fish in a barrel in the name of self defense.

[phillymic2000]

It's true that Israel blows them up so regularly that nothing can serious can get built.  Which is to say nothing of Israel's blockades and checkpoints, which make moving people and good (kinda necessary for building something) extremely difficult when times are "good" and impossible the rest of the time.

And no, we have not given tons of money to Hamas.  Our money and weapons go to Israel.

I'm sure we have given more money to Israel then too Palastine, Palastine's elected ledership Hamas has never seeked peace. Who has given up land (after winning it in a legit war 1967) Who has given up a lot of prisoners in exchange for the remains of dead kidnapped soldiers? When has Israel for months and years shot missles into Palastine? I'm not defending everything Israel does, they do some shady shtein. But to say Palastine's Government is the victim is complete bullshtein. So sorry you farged with a tougher country, learn your farging lesson and join the world in making life better for your people instead of wiping another counrty off the face of the planet.

[phillymic2000]

Well as long as it was only a few (thousand) rockets. Look man They farged with a bigger badder country, power wise. What the farg to you expect. Israel warned them over and over. What the farg did you wat them to do? Continue to get rockets day after day? Hamas has done shtein to turn palastine around, nada!! their people are worse off today, or before the war. but luckily Hamas leaders are delcaring victory today, so why are you complaining?

Over the years, yes a few thousand.  During this recent war, Hamas managed a couple dozen per day, against wave after wave of top rate air force bombing runs and chemical warfare.  Israel has not made a serious attempt to address the core, valid greivances of the Palestinian people.  They have relegated millions to rank poverty and subjected them at every turn to violence, humiliation, and deprival.

What could they do?  Stop supporting and dismantle the settlements that continue to grow on Internationally recognized Palestinian land...for a start.

I couldn't agree more.

[phillymic2000]

And yet you continue to defend these scum bags who use civilians as shields, and hide in religious places and neighborhoods to strike out. Yay scum bags!

Um...they don't have anywhere else to go.  They fight where they live and use what they have.  If they had tanks and drone aircraft, they'd use those.  They don't.

Meanwhile you continue to celebrate Israel's right to shoot fish in a barrel in the name of self defense.

I in no way celebrate war, Israel has had rockets shot at them daily dozens daily or thousands yearly it matters not. THe fact that a-holes in charge of Palastine shoot missles at another country is an act of war no?

Fish in a barrel? If Israel did not show restraint after destroying 22,000 blds. a lot more innocent civilians would have been killed. Hamas shoots with no purpose other then to kill any Israeli citizen. Israel has done much more to limit civilian casualtes

[Diomedes]

Palestine is a caged starved wounded animal flailing about.  Israel is the fat sadistic self satisfied trapper.  They are each playing their role to a tee.

[MDS]

last time i can say it was the first day of classes

anyway 2 were canceled and in my intro to astronomy (fulfills requirement), the teacher who cant speak english ended with a round of applause for obama. literally had 100 students clap in a room in north philly.