Jim Johnson needs to go...

Started by Wingspan, October 16, 2006, 12:40:05 PM

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mussa

Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 16, 2006, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: mussa on October 16, 2006, 07:13:41 PM
Trotter has been non-existent this year. I can't see how anyone would say Dawkins is not the same player. He's prob one of the few that has played consistently and up to his ability so far this year.

I agree the defense is giving up waay too many points. I think another angle to look at it is that our defense seems to be on the field more than our offense. Our offense is NOT the time consuming type, but more a quick strike short drive scoring machine.  That's not helping out of defense at all, being on the field so often. Can this be an accurate theory for why our defense gives up so many points? Make sense to me. Our lack of running game just kills us sometimes.  I think both sides of the ball need to compliment each other. Our main problem this year IMO has been lack of game management and playcalling, the coaches are hurting the team more than the players.



We don't lack a running game.  They averaged over 5 yards a carry yesterday.  We just never used it consistently, threw >65% of the time and lost.  That's coaching, not production.

thats my point. what i meant and thought i wrote was lack of commiting to the run game. yea we averaged 5 yrds yesterday, but how many attempts? thats not effective if we run 3.5 out of 10 plays. Reid said he's going to balance out the offense and has yet to show it. he's not kidding anybody with the pass happy offense. i can't stand the 3rd and long playaction calls. NO shtein we are passing! Why take away those extra few seconds for McNabb to get the ball out. The Saints blitzed the hell out of us on 3rd down yesterday.

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Quote from: SunMo on October 16, 2006, 07:21:07 PM
is it AR's fault when Donovan holds onto the ball longer than he should and gets sacked?

More run plays need to be called. They often work, and it might actually do something to settle McNabb down.

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2006, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on October 16, 2006, 08:23:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2006, 08:04:34 PM
What exactly doesn't he have anymore and when/why did he lose it?

Coaching skills and he lost them in the second half of the Super Bowl. 

So you want to fire Johnson and Reid? Crazy.

Jim Johnson certainly has not lost his skill. Is he perfect? No. But he's still one of the better DC's in the game.

no, he was one of the better DC's...he's lost the edge. right now, through 6 week, there are 23 better defenses in the NFL, this carries over from last season as well.

look at some of the very telling stats i pulled. 2:1 long drive:3 and out ratio is terrible. the TOP is so lopsided because they can not stop anyone on third down. there are only 2 teams with a worse 3rd down % on defense. that is not even CLOSE to acceptable, let alone good.

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2006, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on October 16, 2006, 08:23:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2006, 08:04:34 PM
What exactly doesn't he have anymore and when/why did he lose it?

Coaching skills and he lost them in the second half of the Super Bowl. 

So you want to fire Johnson and Reid? Crazy.

Jim Johnson certainly has not lost his skill. Is he perfect? No. But he's still one of the better DC's in the game.

Yeah, but it is a pipedream.  I would love to see a coach here that covets a power run game.  I am sick of AR and his lack of flexibility.  Could you imagine how great this offense could be if they had balance. 
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This offense already is great. #1 in the NFL right now.

The pass is working, I don't know why everyone wants to get away from it. Could we run the ball more? Sure, but that isn't the issue with this team right now.
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Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 16, 2006, 10:20:13 PM
This offense already is great. #1 in the NFL right now.

The pass is working, I don't know why everyone wants to get away from it. Could we run the ball more? Sure, but that isn't the issue with this team right now.

You are right they are good but they could be even better.  Running is paramount when you have a defense that is having problems. 
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It seems like we always are better running the ball in the second half of games. When we start out a game we always run the ball and it gets minimal gains. Then once we wear out their defense a bit, we can start getting some nice rushing. So if they run it should be in the second half.

As much as it would be nice to run, I'm sick of Andy only running on first down and us having a 2nd and 9 after Westbrook only gains a measly yard.
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 16, 2006, 08:04:34 PM
What exactly doesn't he have anymore and when/why did he lose it?

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Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 16, 2006, 10:20:13 PM
This offense already is great. #1 in the NFL right now.

The pass is working, I don't know why everyone wants to get away from it. Could we run the ball more? Sure, but that isn't the issue with this team right now.

Don't be mislead by that #1 ranking.  IMO, the offense still has a lot of work to do.  The last 2 games they have been horrible when it comes to lengthy drives.  They've been reliant on the big play in order to move the ball down field and score.  I love seeing them with 5 or 6 plays of 20+ yards every game but what I don't understand is why this team can't use that to their advantage and go underneath more often to help chew up clock.  I think it's great that this team has the ability to go 80 yards in 2 minutes.  But if they are constantly scoring quickly then it doesn't do the defense any good.  It doesn't give them any rest.  It's almost the same as going 3 and out. 

That's the balance that they are lacking this year.  It's not so much the balance between run and pass that's out of whack.  It's the balance between the big plays and small ones.  I can't believe I'm actually saying this but I would love to see a little more dink and dunk in the offense.....just to chew up some clock and give the defense more of a breather. 

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I would agree that offense and defense go hand in hand. The Eagles are averaging 4.7 per rush vs 3.6 for the opponent.  Maybe the big play would be more efficient if the they started the game with the run and short controlled passing game.

I'm interested to see how JJ juggles the dime personnel after hood comes back, With hood taking Hanson's spot. Whether it's Wynn, Hanson, Mikell, or Gaither, it better not be Lewis in there.  :boom

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29th in penalties

30th in 1st downs allowed


That speaks volumes.

I agree with Phreak. The Eagles definitely need to play press coverage in those situations and chuck people off their routes. The QB is getting the ball off in less than 3 seconds. Guys need to be in a position to make plays. Even with a well-executed blitz, a QB with a nice quick release will get the ball out and more likely than not a WR will make a catch for 7,8,9 yards. It really allows for 1st downs to rack up (just like the Eagles have been giving up).

Also, the only reason I think the 3rd down % percentage is not as horrible is because the Eagles are giving up a lot of first downs on first and 2nd down. Teams are getting the ball out quicker, getting the first down in one play or getting in 2nd and extremely short situations, and picking up the first downs on those 2nd downs. It would be interesting to see how many 1st downs the Eagles D gives up on 2nd downs. I'm sure it is very high.

I think I alluded to this instance in a previous thread, but IGY labeled more a homer. Go figure.




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HOORAY!  Finally, someone has come to their senses! I have been wanting to get rid of JJ for a few years now. He has not evolved along with the game, and is now a has been. Sometimes simple is better. I honestly feel his scheme has cost us at least one superbowl win, and possible an  appearance in at least one other. While this offense was learning the ropes, his D kept us a float during a few regular seasons, and a few playoff games....but at crunch time, and against a well balanced offense, he routinely gets exposed. If he is scheming against a one dimensional offense, he is great at making up a game plan to stop it. But when you can throw the ball short to avoid sacks, and have a potent running attack to mix in, he is basically helpless.

The fact is that he isn't going any place, any time soon. They owe him a lot of money, and this front office doesnt have the balls to pull that trigger. The SHAME in it is: we aren't but a decent running attack away from being a legit superbowl caliber offense. If they can replace him with a proven comodity at DC in the next year, we have a shot to win it all. I'm just VERY perplexed that FINALLY, we have an offense that is no joke, and as fate would have it, the stinkin D can't stop anybody now...freakin lovely.  :poison
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at the start of the year i thought they would be middle of the pack in the league...unfortunately they are a lot worse than that
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