The Running Backs, Wide Receivers and other offensive questionmarks...

Started by rjs246, August 18, 2006, 12:01:53 AM

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The BIGSTUD

I didn't say Brown is TO or Chad Johnson or Steve Smith. Even though I said I think he will be a pro bowler in the future, I still don't think he'll be on their level.

But there is a difference between a superstar #1 receiver, and a #1 receiver. Branch in New England is a #1 receiver. He's not a TO or a Chad Johnson, but he's still a #1 receiver.

I think last year Reggie proved he can be a #1. He didn't prove he's going to be a superstar, but he proved he has enough go-to ability for McNabb I think. I do think down the road Reggie will be a star though. Again, not of TO or Chad Johnson quality, but I do think he'll be an 80 catch 1100 yard guy.

If I'm only basing that on nothing but glimpses, then what is the point of even projecting?
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reese125

Quote from: Phanatic on August 18, 2006, 03:38:53 PM
This offense is just good enough to get bailed out by the defense on a regular basis. One major injury to a WR or RB and probably not so much.

Is Brown a better #1 then Thrash?


who knows. surely not by the sights of this preseason. you trying to tell me that a second year WR is milking it in the preseason because hes sure to get open in the regular season? highly doubt it--and what your seeing so far is scary to make such a prediction

rjs246

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Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 18, 2006, 03:33:07 PM
There's no room for optimism in your mind, rjs.

You've made that clear in the past.

That is simply not true. I'm not optimistic THIS YEAR for a plethora of reasons. Runningback durability and depth being one. An utter lack of talent and experience at wide receiver being another.

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And basing your opinion on last year (with the legendary Mike McMahon at QB, no less) plus a couple of series during this preseason is retarded.

McMahon is part of the reason I'm not as optimistic about Brown. When McNabb was playing, Brown didn't get much opportunity and didn't do anything when he did have an opportunity. In case you haven't noticed, Mike McMahon and Donovan McNabb have slightly different velocities and styles. Who's to say that Brown will be able to even work effectively with McNabb. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE. But he's totally going to be great with no one to mentor him and the burden of being labeled the top receiver in an awful group. Totally.

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We have no idea how they're going to play. The difference is, some of us are willing to at least hold out a sliver hope for great things to happen while you've already taken a shovel to the team. I just don't understand that. I mean, if the outlook is so gloomy, then why bother watching at all?

The fact that you are trying to justify 'holding out a sliver of hope' only proves further that I am right to be pessimistic.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

rjs246

Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 03:41:24 PM
I didn't say Brown is TO or Chad Johnson or Steve Smith. Even though I said I think he will be a pro bowler in the future, I still don't think he'll be on their level.


Backpedal much? Those guys are what a pro-bowl WR is. Stop inundating us with your idiocy.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

reese125

Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 03:41:24 PM
I didn't say Brown is TO or Chad Johnson or Steve Smith. Even though I said I think he will be a pro bowler in the future, I still don't think he'll be on their level.

But there is a difference between a superstar #1 receiver, and a #1 receiver. Branch in New England is a #1 receiver. He's not a TO or a Chad Johnson, but he's still a #1 receiver.

I think last year Reggie proved he can be a #1. He didn't prove he's going to be a superstar, but he proved he has enough go-to ability for McNabb I think. I do think down the road Reggie will be a star though. Again, not of TO or Chad Johnson quality, but I do think he'll be an 80 catch 1100 yard guy.

If I'm only basing that on nothing but glimpses, then what is the point of even projecting?

because usually when you project such statements, its based on evidence of skill that he can actually attain those numbers. again--show signs of it NOW, than Im with you

The BIGSTUD

Quote from: reese125 on August 18, 2006, 03:38:03 PM
Bunkley, your competely specualting these statements with no true evidence. your taking last season and automatically assuming he doubles his figues because Reid and Donovan claim him as the #1. show me consistency then I believe you

It's call projecting. Would you prefer me to wait until he has 75 catches and 1000 yards for me to say that he's capable of being that good? What is the point in that.

You have to project in this league. Fans project how players will turn out just like the team does. The team obviously thinks Reggie is ready to be the #1 by watching hours of film, and game time of him.

You may be right. Reggie Brown may not be a pro bowler, and may not be a good player down the road. I could be dead wrong. But just like I'm basing my projectings on no actual evidence, to say he won't be a great player is basing it on no evidence just the same. No one knows what Reggie Brown will be, so all we can do is project based on what we've seen.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

SunMo

the title of this thread is 'The Running Backs'
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

The BIGSTUD

Quote from: rjs246 on August 18, 2006, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 03:41:24 PM
I didn't say Brown is TO or Chad Johnson or Steve Smith. Even though I said I think he will be a pro bowler in the future, I still don't think he'll be on their level.


Backpedal much? Those guys are what a pro-bowl WR is. Stop inundating us with your idiocy.

Those are 100 catch 1500 yard guys. I said Reggie is going to be a 80 catch 1100 yard guy down the road. There is your difference.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

rjs246

Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 18, 2006, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 03:41:24 PM
I didn't say Brown is TO or Chad Johnson or Steve Smith. Even though I said I think he will be a pro bowler in the future, I still don't think he'll be on their level.


Backpedal much? Those guys are what a pro-bowl WR is. Stop inundating us with your idiocy.

Those are 100 catch 1500 yard guys. I said Reggie is going to be a 80 catch 1100 yard guy down the road. There is your difference.

Stop.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

The BIGSTUD

There's no point in even arguing it anymore. Neither can prove their side with any facts. We'll have to see what Reggie does this season.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

reese125

rj, ship me some god damn good boston bud will ya...im running low on shwag

General_Failure

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rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.