See ya Tookie

[General_Failure]

We need to start catching more of those other people when they murder people.

[Rome]

The system is bullshtein. So many more minorities have been put to death than have white people that anyone who looks at the stats can't help but be disgusted.

The lesson for today: People are still influenced by the PC media and educators in the US.



http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cp.htm

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/drracetab.htm

Cute graphic.  One small thing, though... according to the U.S. Census in 2000, there was 194.5M whites in the U.S. and 33.9M blacks (source: 2000 Census) .  If you read the chart, you'll begin to understand the shocking disparity that exists still between whites and blacks on death row based on total population.

Facts are facts, and there's nothing PC about that.

[T_Section224]

Facts are facts, and there's nothing PC about that.

and it has nothing to do with the people actually committing the crimes right? 

i'm not a huge proponent of the death penalty, morally i do believe it's wrong but there are certain instances when i think it's warranted, and this is one of them (and yes, i think mumia has lived much too long) but this guy was convicted of 4 murders and lord knows how many more he committed or at least instigated being the founder of a major gang who relys on voilence to keep their 'street cred'.  i'm glad he tried to do good before he died and i truly hope he found peace with the lord, but i don't feel bad for what happened to him.

[JTrotter Fan]

Free Whitey!! 

Or is that Willy?

[Butchers Bill]

He wasn't talkin about how many white people were on death row.  He was talkin about how many were actually executed. 

Looked everywhere for that, but couldn't find it.  I think the proportion of whites vs. blacks on death row more than proves my point.

Cute graphic. 

Thank your congressman...its a gov't website.

One small thing, though... according to the U.S. Census in 2000, there was 194.5M whites in the U.S. and 33.9M blacks (source: 2000 Census) .  If you read the chart, you'll begin to understand the shocking disparity that exists still between whites and blacks on death row based on total population.

Thats not what I was challenging.  I was merely suggesting that the comment made regarding the number of blacks executed exceeded that of whites was false.

One small thing though, on one of the links I posted, the proportion of whites and blacks on death row is equal to the proportion of whites and blacks in the regular population.

[rjs246]

He wasn't talkin about how many white people were on death row.  He was talkin about how many were actually executed. 

I hate to agree but that's exactly right. If you're white and get convicted of the same crime that a black man gets convicted of you are not nearly as likely to get executed. Fact.

[Diomedes]

Speaking of Death Row, check this out:

Death row escapee thinks his three days of freedom were worth it.

"Then I walked out the front door," Thompson said. "It was the hardest thing in the world to not run. I walked down the steps, down the street, around the corner, stripped to my jogging clothes and went on the jogging path."
.....
"I'm pretty much resolved to my fate. Concrete box 23 hours a day. Just sit in there and think about how they're going to kill you."

This guy is an American folk hero.  Killed his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend, walked out of jail, rode trains and looked at the stars, and now he's back in prison thinking about how they're going to kill him.  Johnny Cash wrote a few songs about guys like this.

[rjs246]

Thats not what I was challenging.  I was merely suggesting that the comment made regarding the number of blacks executed exceeded that of whites was false.

Wrong. Being on death row and actually getting executed aren't the same thing. Check your facts, jack.

[Butchers Bill]

Thats not what I was challenging.  I was merely suggesting that the comment made regarding the number of blacks executed exceeded that of whites was false.

Wrong. Being on death row and actually getting executed aren't the same thing. Check your facts, jack.

Jesus you're pathetic.  How about you check YOUR facts.

While 455 whites have been executed, compared to 278 African Americans since 1977 (when the Supreme Court reversed its ban on capital punishment), black men are increasingly caught up in what many consider to be an inherently biased legal system.

Here's your facts...now try doing your own research

[henchmanUK]

also you need the death penalty around to strike the fear of god in some scumbags.

Am looking for it, but can't find the year-on-year stats for prisoners on death row. Would be interesting to know whether it does or does not influence.

[Philly_Crew]

Did more research and not so sure about the death penalty.  More on religious grounds than Dio's arguement that government should not be allowed to kill its citizens.  I guess police officers shouldn't have guns but walk around with time-out tape.

[Tomahawk]

Did more research and not so sure about the death penalty.  More on religious grounds than Dio's arguement that government should not be allowed to kill its citizens.  I guess police officers shouldn't have guns but walk around with time-out tape.

The cops in Britain don't carry guns, or at least they used to not.

[Diomedes]

Neither do the criminals carry them in Britain.  Makes it a bit easier for the cops not to carry them.

[henchmanUK]

Guns aren't legal here, but there's still gun crime, though not as much as there used to be. At least there are no more school shootings. Some police still carry guns too, hence the shooting of that Brazilian guy on the London underground a couple of months ago.

[stillupfront]

If we could relax the rules on what is cruel and unusual punishment, I would gladly dispense of the death penalty. For instance; force capital prisoners into general population wearing leg irons and handcuffs behind their backs. Forced labor. Meal restrictions. No conjugal visits etc.