Eagles vs. Jets

[PhillyPhreak54]

Are you serious about the run defense last night, Hunt? Because there are reasons why it sucked.

Were you bitching about it the first 3 games?

You mean like 1st string vs. 2nd string, vanilla defensive schemes, it being the 4th and final preseason game that means absolutely nothing? That logic is apparently out the door. 

Yes.

But the big thing is that the run defense was fine in the first 3 games when starters played with this group of DTs (without Rayburn too). But as soon as Simon is let go, the bitching starts. Don't bother to look that none of the starters on defense played last night. Just bitch because Simon is gone.

[TexasEagle]

*cooties*

Whoa, wait a second now... who has cooties? Do you have cooties? This is serious! Screw the depth, there's a cootie outbreak!

[Sgt PSN]

I agree with everything in this thread.  Especially the stuff I said. 

[TexasEagle]

the run defense did blow last night but of course i realize it wasn't all the DT's fault.  i was merely pointing out the irony of the team dumping simon due to the "DT depth" & then getting run all over the next preseason game.
i wasn't "bitching" about anything...the run D did suck.  i don't think anyone can dispute that...although some might try.

The problem is you're looking at it in a vaccum. You can't just say the "depth sucks" because the team got ran on in the 4th preseason game which is really all about the bubble players getting a chance to play for more than 5-10 minutes. The depth & roleplayers don't exist in the vaccum you're putting them in as when they'd get on the field in the regular season they'll have the rest of the starting teams err... players, not teams... along side them.

[TexasEagle]

I agree with everything in this thread. Especially the stuff I said.

No you don't. Stop lying...

[Sgt PSN]

I agree with everything in this thread. Especially the stuff I said.

No you don't. Stop lying...

Again, I concur completely. 

[MURP]

the run defense did blow last night but of course i realize it wasn't all the DT's fault. i was merely pointing out the irony of the team dumping simon due to the "DT depth" & then getting run all over the next preseason game.
i wasn't "bitching" about anything...the run D did suck. i don't think anyone can dispute that...although some might try.

The problem is you're looking at it in a vaccum. You can't just say the "depth sucks" because the team got ran on in the 4th preseason game which is really all about the bubble players getting a chance to play for more than 5-10 minutes. The depth & roleplayers don't exist in the vaccum you're putting them in as when they'd get on the field in the regular season they'll have the rest of the starting teams along side them.

...yeah, and note that Mike Patterson never stepped on the field and it was Rayburns first game back off injury.    Guess that doesnt matter either!

[Sgt PSN]

no matter what some think, dumping simon hurts the DT depth....that's my point. 

That goes without saying. 

i didn't like the fact that they dumped simon who, whether people like it or not, was their best DT...and they got nothing in return.

I don't consider this move as them "dumping" him.  He's had like 4 or 5 months to sign the one year deal.  He didn't.  He missed all of training camp and given the way he showed up last year (fat and out of shape) I think the Eagles decided that he wouldn't be worth the $5million he would get this year. 

For that type of money, they need to know that he's going to be in shape and ready to contribute from the first snap of the season all the way to the last.  Not take half the season to get in shape and then fall off again during the playoffs. 

[SD_Eagle5]

no matter what some think, dumping simon hurts the DT depth....that's my point.  rayburn is not better than simon or he would have been starting the past couple years....same goes for hollis.  now they and all the other DT's are bumped up 1 spot on the depth chart.

i didn't like the fact that they dumped simon who, whether people like it or not, was their best DT...and they got nothing in return.  maybe they'll be "fine" with who they have but i'd rather not take the chance in a season where winning the super bowl is the only thing that matters.  we already discussed this in the simon topic but i found it ironic that the DT's who make up this "depth" didn't look very good & the D got run all over. 

I agree we're a better team with Simon, but the fatass wouldn't sign his tender. There were 'rumors' that he was going to show, but why pay him top DT money when he wouldn't be performing like one from day 1? I'm glad the Eagles don't let players walk over them and let them dictate the rules.

[MURP]

no matter what some think, dumping simon hurts the DT depth....that's my point.

yeah, no shtein.  anytime you lose a starter it affects the rest of the group.   Making that simple point by attempting to lambast the #4 and #5 DT's in the final preseason game which had a vanilla scheme and no other starters on the D is weak sauce.

i didn't like the fact that they dumped simon who, whether people like it or not, was their best DT...and they got nothing in return. 

yeah, and I stated when they released him  I didnt like that they didnt get any trade compensation for Simon.  Even more so since no comp pick is involved.  So stop acting like your the lone voice of dissent against the world.   

i found it ironic that the DT's who make up this "depth" didn't look very good & the D got run all over. 

Half the "depth" your whining about didnt even play in the game.  See: Hollis and Mike Patterson.     

[WEST is GOD]

yeah, i really whined & lambasted them by saying how they got ran all over (which they did).    cram it already.  go back & read the posts....queenie is the one who overreacted (as usual).  anything remotely negative about the team & half of you get your panties in a bunch and go into spaz mode.

I had to experience that first hand.... multiple times.

[General_Failure]

You guys need hugs. Big naked hugs.

[MURP]

yeah, i really whined & lambasted them by saying how they got ran all over (which they did). cram it already. go back & read the posts....queenie is the one who overreacted (as usual). anything remotely negative about the team & half of you get your panties in a bunch and go into spaz mode.

I figured it would take you all night to to realize you had no credible comeback for the fact that Hollis and Mike Patterson were not even in the game.   Go pick up your panties at the dry cleaner and dry up your fricken tears.  You would think an Eagles fan would have thicker skin.   

[MURP]

Hollis was depth, which is obviously part of what JJ and Andy Reid were referring to as DT depth when they let go of Simon.  You cant be that stupid can you?

[MURP]

hollis is a starter now...still hasn't sunk in, huh?

Well, that's solved.  You are that stupid.  Glad you cleared it up.