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Started by MURP, August 24, 2005, 01:40:43 PM

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Who do you want to Eagles to sign?

nobody
4 (6.7%)
Eddie George
5 (8.3%)
Lamar Gordon
10 (16.7%)
Dorsey Levens
24 (40%)
Sammy Morris
3 (5%)
Tyrone Wheatley
7 (11.7%)
someone else
7 (11.7%)

Total Members Voted: 57

General_Failure

Joe Banner is a sexy-ass man.

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WEST is GOD

I have to pick a situation where we disagreed, but if you want another one then I'll give it to you. On draft day I ripped the Eagles for taking Patterson because I thought we were deep enough at DT and wanted another position, but I got criticized for disagreeing with the Eagles then too. Those were 2 situations where I was alone or in the minority in an opinion, and both turned out the same way.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

bobbyinlondon

Apparently, the Eagles allegedly have been talking to Levens' agent in the off season:

I've been talking to the Eagles the entire offseason," Engelhard said. "At the same time, we're talking to about three other teams as well."

Engelhard said his last conversation with the Eagles was Friday. He declined to identify the other teams who have shown interest in Levens, but he admitted that the Eagles are his client's first choice.

"We're trying to gauge the Eagles' interest because Dorsey obviously enjoyed playing for the Eagles and they are his first choice," Engelhard said. "He's in better shape this year than he was last year. I don't know if Dorsey is their first choice, but I know Dorsey wants to go back there and win a Super Bowl."

The Eagles do not have interest in Troy Hambrick, who was released by the Arizona Cardinals earlier this week.


http://www.philly.com/sports/eagles

General_Failure

I wasn't thrilled about Andrews last year, but after watching him for one half of a regular season game I'm kinda happy to have him around. $200 happy.

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PoopyfaceMcGee

#154
Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 06:12:30 PM
I have to pick a situation where we disagreed, but if you want another one then I'll give it to you. On draft day I ripped the Eagles for taking Patterson because I thought we were deep enough at DT and wanted another position, but I got criticized for disagreeing with the Eagles then too. Those were 2 situations where I was alone or in the minority in an opinion, and both turned out the same way.

So, you're using an even more idiotic instance of your obviously wrong opinion here.  Way to go.  I don't only speak as the "official sponsor of Mike Patterson" when I say you're a dumb-ass.  Grasmanis is toast, Hollis has some major injury history, and the team could not count on Simon being around for 2005 and certainly not beyond.  Keep in mind that defensive line depth is extremely important, especially to the Eagles, and also that the Eagles have not been known as a stellar run-stopping team over the last 3-4 years, and picking the best DT on the board made a hell of a lot of sense.

Now, I want to know, because you're so smart... who would you have taken with pick #31?
Reggie Brown is not a valid answer.

Edited:

P.S.  It's funny that I don't see any posts from you in this thread, considering the portion of your statement in bold.

WEST is GOD

Simon can be eventually re-signed when he lowers his value(no one will pay him what he wants, he has no choice), we have Walker and Rayburn, and Hollis. Those are 4 quality DTs.

Reggie Brown.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 06:21:17 PM
Simon can be eventually re-signed when he lowers his value(no one will pay him what he wants, he has no choice), we have Walker and Rayburn, and Hollis. Those are 4 quality DTs.

Sure, Simon CAN be re-signed, but you really know he will be?  Besides, the Eagles had a deal in place to ship him off on draft day, so they were certainly planning on life without Simon.

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 06:21:17 PM
Reggie Brown.

Wow, you're so cool.  You would have taken him 4 picks earlier than necessary, then.
Who would you have taken with #35?

General_Failure


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WEST is GOD

I thought you meant who would I have taken with the 35th. I misread.

With the 31st pick I would've tried to trade up and get someone else. We had the picks to trade up. Erasmus James is who I wanted. I also wanted Clayton, but the Eagles tried to get up for him, the Ravens wanted him too much.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

General_Failure

Sure, because trades magically happen just like 800 yard backup RBs grow on trees.

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methdeez

I kind of agree with Monster.
Dorsey has no future.
I think we should pick up someone who actually has a chance of being with this team in the years to come.
I will be totally frustrated if they go with Dorsey.
It knid of reminds of the situation a few years ago when the eagles just refused to invest any money or draft picks in getting better WRs.
This is the same thing, you need 2 good RB for a season, and considering we are 10 Million under the cap, I wish we would invest in a medium-level FA.

WEST is GOD

We traded up to 15 the last couple of years, I think we could've been able to do it again. Do I know for sure? No, but neither does anyone else. I never hated the Patterson pick, I was angry at the time because I preferred an end or a WR, but since we got Reggie Brown in the second it lessened I was cool with everything. Everything still comes down to square one, which is I don't want Levens and you do, and I didn't like Patterson at the time and you did. Nothing much more to it than that.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

General_Failure

9 pages just to come to that. You suck.

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Diomedes

Quote from: methdeez on August 24, 2005, 06:41:17 PM
Dorsey has no future.

Yeah.  Thing is, the Eagles aren't looking to pick up the RB of the future here.  They're looking for a guy to take 10 carries a game and not farg them up.  Levens would fill that role just fine. 

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PhillyPhanInDC

#164
From PE.com
QuoteREID: NO RUSH TO ADD AN RBĀ 




August 24, 2005
By BOB KENT


Head coach Andy Reid said Wednesday that he is in no rush to add a veteran running back to replace Correll Buckhalter, who underwent season-ending knee surgery on Tuesday.
"We will let the young guys play and see what they can do. Then we will make a decision after that," Reid said in a press conference following practice.

Last season, after Buckhalter was injured in the Aug. 20 preseason game against Baltimore, Reid quickly dialed up veteran Dorsey Levens.


At 6'1, 230 pounds, Levens fit the mold of a bigger, more powerful back like Buckhalter, a guy who could pick up the blitz as well as pick up the tough yard on third-and-1. Levens came in and averaged 4.4 yards on 94 carries and also executed his blocking assignments.

But Reid doesn't seem as quick to pull the trigger at this point.

"We will see how that goes," Reid said. "I have been pleased up to this point with the backs and we will see how things go here."

Without Buckhalter, the backfield is down to four backs -- Brian Westbrook, Reno Mahe, Ryan Moats and Bruce Perry. All four measure in the 5'8 to 5'10, 200-pound range, but only Westbrook and Mahe have regular season game experience.

Westbrook is the "X" factor, the versatile weapon who can do just about everything. Compared favorably to Westbrook, Moats is a playmaking edge runner who has also had success running between the tackles.

"They are different in their own right. Both can be very productive from the backfield," Reid said. "I wouldn't slight [RB] Bruce [Perry] or [RB] Reno [Mahe] on that either. We have four backs that we feel pretty good about."

Mahe spent the past two seasons with the Eagles, impressing on special teams and out of the backfield. He averaged four yards on 23 carries in 2004. Perry, a seventh round selection in the 2004 draft who spent last season on Injured Reserve, has shown flashes during the preseason.

Collectively, the running backs shouldered the workload in the win over Baltimore -- 150 yards on 27 carries. Moats led all the Eagles' backs with 35 yards on four carries, while Mahe rushed three times for 26 yards. Perry added 34 yards on 11 carries, but he also fumbled in the red zone late in the fourth quarter.



Rumor has it William Green of the Browns could be shown the door pretty soon. He looked okay splitting carries with Suggs last year (ruining one of my fantasy picks). I don't know much about him....thoughts on him?
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