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Started by MURP, August 24, 2005, 01:40:43 PM

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Who do you want to Eagles to sign?

nobody
4 (6.7%)
Eddie George
5 (8.3%)
Lamar Gordon
10 (16.7%)
Dorsey Levens
24 (40%)
Sammy Morris
3 (5%)
Tyrone Wheatley
7 (11.7%)
someone else
7 (11.7%)

Total Members Voted: 57

rjs246

Quote from: General_Failure on August 24, 2005, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 24, 2005, 03:29:33 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 24, 2005, 03:16:53 PM
I miss Tapeh.

What's the deal with him? Is he out for the career or what?

Could be, but he sure as hell ain't playing this year.

Well F.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

WEST is GOD

Just pretend for one minute that Buckhalter didn't hurt his knee, and was going to play this entire season healthy. Can you do that for a minute? Now if he is healthy, we can assume he is going to perform and put up numbers similiar to his 2003 season. Just based on his ability alone. OK, so that production is greater than anything Dorsey can bring. Now, we know Buckhalter is hurt. So we need to replace the production a healthy Buckhalter would've given the team because that would've been greater than anything Dorsey will give us. I really can't explain it any better than that. Yes, I know Buckhalter IS hurt, but just say he was healthy, he would've given us  worlds better production than Dorsey could ever give at his age. Now that Buckhalter IS hurt, we need to replace that big play ability that Levens does not have.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

PhillyGirl

I barf on both MURP and Lad's last 2 posts.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Feva

Quote from: rjs246 on August 24, 2005, 03:40:03 PM
Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:35:41 PM
Just forget about the damn injury for a second it's irrelevant.

How on Earth is it irrelevant? Are you retarded?

"Would you rather have a hospital patient or a healthy athlete on the football field with your team?"

It's assinine to ask that question. Dorsey blocks better, catches better, IS HEALTHY and has a higher YPC avg than Buckhalter. Who would anyone in their right mind rather have? Oh right, they guy who has played as a part time back for 2 out of the five years of his career. WooHoo! Buckhalter rules!

Christ.
:yay
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Seabiscuit36

GET REFRIGERATOR PERRY!
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General_Failure

Get me my gun. I'm going to put you all out of my misery.

The man. The myth. The legend.

MURP

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:41:44 PM
Just pretend for one minute that Buckhalter didn't hurt his knee, and was going to play this entire season healthy. Can you do that for a minute?

no, in fact I cannot.  I've been saying for a while now that CBUCK is a waste of time.  He used to have potential, but  after that 2nd knee injury he was as good as gone in my book.   

WEST is GOD

Quote from: Dillen37 on August 24, 2005, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:35:41 PM
That's nice Murp, forget about Buck's injuries for a second. Who would you rather have between a healthy Buckhalter or a healthy Levens?

Just forget about the damn injury for a second it's irrelevant.
But this is completely hypothetical. Yes, everyone would rather have a healthy Buck over a healthy Levens, BUT IT WONT HAPPEN. Yes we are aware that Buckhalter WHEN HEALTHY is better then Levens. But he is never healthy.

I know it's hypothetical, that was the whole point. We need to be hypothetical here. This whole issue isn't even about Buckhalter. It's about Dorsey not being good enough. Buckhalter is only being used as a comparison here. We need to bring in a RB that can play like a healthy Buckhalter basically.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

Feva

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:41:44 PM
Just pretend for one minute that Buckhalter didn't hurt his knee, and was going to play this entire season healthy. Can you do that for a minute? Now if he is healthy, we can assume he is going to perform and put up numbers similiar to his 2003 season.

That's just it!  How can you assume that a guy on 2 surgically repaired knees is gonna give you the same thing he did before he hurt them?  You can't.  We have NO IDEA what Buck was gonna bring to the table this year.  All we  were hoping for was that he could stay on the field and pick up short yardage while giveing Westbrook a breather.  Anything more than that was gravy.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

General_Failure

We already have Mahe on the farging roster!

The man. The myth. The legend.

rjs246

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:41:44 PM
Just pretend for one minute that Buckhalter didn't hurt his knee, and was going to play this entire season healthy. Can you do that for a minute? Now if he is healthy, we can assume he is going to perform and put up numbers similiar to his 2003 season. Just based on his ability alone. OK, so that production is greater than anything Dorsey can bring. Now, we know Buckhalter is hurt. So we need to replace the production a healthy Buckhalter would've given the team because that would've been greater than anything Dorsey will give us. I really can't explain it any better than that. Yes, I know Buckhalter IS hurt, but just say he was healthy, he would've given us  worlds better production than Dorsey could ever give at his age. Now that Buckhalter IS hurt, we need to replace that big play ability that Levens does not have.

Hey! Broken record! Buckhalter doesn't have any big play ability. He's got farging feta cheese for knees.

"Go to your happy place and pretend that Buckhalter has any value and then pretend that Dorsey has no value and then you'll see my point. Yay! I want to go to Hawaii! Yay!"
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:44:04 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 24, 2005, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:35:41 PM
That's nice Murp, forget about Buck's injuries for a second. Who would you rather have between a healthy Buckhalter or a healthy Levens?

Just forget about the damn injury for a second it's irrelevant.
But this is completely hypothetical. Yes, everyone would rather have a healthy Buck over a healthy Levens, BUT IT WONT HAPPEN. Yes we are aware that Buckhalter WHEN HEALTHY is better then Levens. But he is never healthy.

I know it's hypothetical, that was the whole point. We need to be hypothetical here. This whole issue isn't even about Buckhalter. It's about Dorsey not being good enough. Buckhalter is only being used as a comparison here. We need to bring in a RB that can play like a healthy Buckhalter basically.

Wow, you are far more deluded than I thought. I'm done attempting conversation with you. This last post gave me a headache from it's stupidity.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Dillen

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:44:04 PM
I know it's hypothetical, that was the whole point. We need to be hypothetical here. This whole issue isn't even about Buckhalter. It's about Dorsey not being good enough. Buckhalter is only being used as a comparison here. We need to bring in a RB that can play like a healthy Buckhalter basically.
Dorsey not being good enough? He has to replace HIS STATS FROM LAST YEAR, not Buckhalter's. We dont need to replace Buckhalter's "big play ability" because WE HAVENT HAD IT.

PhillyPhanInDC

#58
Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:35:41 PM
That's nice Murp, forget about Buck's injuries for a second. Who would you rather have between a healthy Buckhalter or a healthy Levens?

Just forget about the damn injury for a second it's irrelevant.

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:41:44 PM
Just pretend for one minute that Buckhalter didn't hurt his knee, and was going to play this entire season healthy. Can you do that for a minute? Now if he is healthy, we can assume he is going to perform and put up numbers similiar to his 2003 season. Just based on his ability alone. OK, so that production is greater than anything Dorsey can bring. Now, we know Buckhalter is hurt. So we need to replace the production a healthy Buckhalter would've given the team because that would've been greater than anything Dorsey will give us. I really can't explain it any better than that. Yes, I know Buckhalter IS hurt, but just say he was healthy, he would've given us worlds better production than Dorsey could ever give at his age. Now that Buckhalter IS hurt, we need to replace that big play ability that Levens does not have.

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:44:04 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 24, 2005, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:35:41 PM
That's nice Murp, forget about Buck's injuries for a second. Who would you rather have between a healthy Buckhalter or a healthy Levens?

Just forget about the damn injury for a second it's irrelevant.
But this is completely hypothetical. Yes, everyone would rather have a healthy Buck over a healthy Levens, BUT IT WONT HAPPEN. Yes we are aware that Buckhalter WHEN HEALTHY is better then Levens. But he is never healthy.

I know it's hypothetical, that was the whole point. We need to be hypothetical here. This whole issue isn't even about Buckhalter. It's about Dorsey not being good enough. Buckhalter is only being used as a comparison here. We need to bring in a RB that can play like a healthy Buckhalter basically.

Monster has said similar things in similar posts. You want someone in the backfield like a Shaun Alexander or LaDanian Tomlinson.  ANY running back in the NFL who has a roster spot can break a 40 yard run if it presents itself. You don't seem to have a good understanding of how this works. Whoever comes in will be a situational back. That means no big-dollar, top of the line running backs. Reid has never wanted one, never will. So can it. You can't what if that shtein. If Buckhalter was healthy he would out-perform Dorsey? WELL HE IS NOT HEALTHY. Dorsey is. Answer this, who will put up more yards this season Levens or Buckhalter? I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. How many yards did Buckhalter have last year? How many carries? TDs? What about Levens' stat lines? OH shtein. Looks like Levens was better last year, and I'd bet he'll still be better than C-Buck this year.
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MURP

Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 03:44:04 PM
This whole issue isn't even about Buckhalter. It's about Dorsey not being good enough. Buckhalter is only being used as a comparison here. We need to bring in a RB that can play like a healthy Buckhalter basically.

I just showed you that Dorsey ran for almost 1/2 yard more per carry than Buckhalter did when he was with the Eagles.