sixers finish third which means they can end up anywhere between 1 and 6 - they will have a 15% chance of getting 1, 2 or 3, a 22% chance of getting 4, a 26% chance of getting 5 and a 4% chance of getting 6 - in other words buckle yourself in real tight on lottery night
the laker pick will have a 19% chance of falling out of the top 5.....could be a lot worse and if this wasn't Philadelphia id have some real hope - if they don't get this pick it becomes a top three protected 2016 johnson
miami pick will be protected at 10 giving the sixers a 9% chance of getting it - not good which means this pick is going to again be a top 10 protected pick next year
second round picks: 5, 7, 17, 27, 30
lottery night - may 19
draft night - june 25
summer league - july 6-9 - huge offseason question is if joe-el will play
Are they playing in Vegas this summer?
If so let's go. And then we can go half on the SuperContest
Hypothetically if they get 1 I guess they have to take Okafor. Too many forwards but the trade options would be nice. I like Embiid more than any player in this draft.
5 more 2nd round picks you can fap to then immediately dismiss when hinkie trades them away?
i've wanted mudiay for the last 12 months and nothing has changed. smart dude that got his cash instead of playing for that dinosaur larry brown. mudiay to joel/noel gonna be nice.
something about okafor just seems off to me, i can't put my finger on it. i think he just seems soft and will get eaten alive in the NBA.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 15, 2015, 10:54:45 PM
i've wanted mudiay for the last 12 months and nothing has changed. smart dude that got his cash instead of playing for that dinosaur larry brown. mudiay to joel/noel gonna be nice.
don't know a ton about him, guess he is more of a pure PG then deangelo russell ?
Quote from: SunMo on April 16, 2015, 08:05:49 AM
something about okafor just seems off to me, i can't put my finger on it. i think he just seems soft and will get eaten alive in the NBA.
so many things wrong with him as it pertains to todays nba...defensively he is going to be a train wreck...how the hell is he going to guard stretch 5's in todays league...and even on the block guys like boogie are way to athletic for him...and good god he is going to be a train wreck guarding the pick n roll and pick n pop...on top of that despite his size he isn't even a rim protector
his on the block offense is more than nba ready...great hands unbelievably soft touch all the post moves youd want....but he has no range and cant face up and shoot...although that is at least something he can improve on...but it also falls into the if column....in todays nba people wanna know that you can move your game out a little and face up knock down a jumper
hinkie doesn't say shtein so who knows 100% but hes a child of the new nba...im sure he knows as good as okafor is offensively on the block he also isn't built for todays nba and isn't a hinkie kind of player...I honestly believe hinkie would rather have nn than okafor and if they get number 1 hed much rather have the KAT than okafor
so would i
my biggest nightmare is that the sixers get 3 and the KAT and mudiay go 1-2....sixers gotta come away from this draft with one of those two or it a failure
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 10:42:26 PM
Are they playing in Vegas this summer?
seems like just salt lake city....they are def out for orlando....nothing has been announced regarding vegas but its very unlikely....vegas starts july 10 salt lake ends july 9....they could have two different squads especially with five second rounders but even if they somehow also do vegas joe-el wouldn't be there....if he plays its just gonna be utah
Who was ripping him? Cataldi?
@JackMcCaffery: #Sixers Brown, who was ripped on radio for letting players draw up plays: 'First, I didn't realize that. Second, I don't care.'
no idea but every panelist on around the horn ripped them as well....more as a team than brown directly tho
btw bb is flying to turkey on sunday to spend a week with dario
God forbid they have a littl fun at the end of the season.
Cranky ass journalists and radio people can farg off
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
my biggest nightmare is that the sixers get 3 and the KAT and mudiay go 1-2....sixers gotta come away from this draft with one of those two or it a failure
I want either Mudiay or Russell
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/sixers/?wss=/philly/sports/sixers&id=296333191
Would be thrilled with Townes but what do you do with him?
Quote from: SD on April 16, 2015, 08:26:49 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
my biggest nightmare is that the sixers get 3 and the KAT and mudiay go 1-2....sixers gotta come away from this draft with one of those two or it a failure
I want either Mudiay or Russell
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/sixers/?wss=/philly/sports/sixers&id=296333191
Would be thrilled with Townes but what do you do with him?
you let it play out....its too early in the process to worry about positions and lineup cohesiveness...you are looking for two studs to emerge no matter how or where that comes from.....you take the best players now and worry about the rest later
also with embiids foot ready to explode at any time the KAT would be a nice emergency plan for that
russll isn't explosive enough for me....imo he doesn't have the athleticism to get to the rim in the nba or go by people in the way mudiay will be able to....his shot is ahead of mudiays but you can improve that....you cant find elite athleticism somewhere
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2015/04/mitch-kupchak-doesnt-understand-76ers-rebuilding-plan/
:sly
he will know what they are doing when hinkie magic takes his top ten pick next year (or this year - 1 in 5 chance)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
my biggest nightmare is that the sixers get 3 and the KAT and mudiay go 1-2....sixers gotta come away from this draft with one of those two or it a failure
What don't you like about Russell?
Not a great athlete...not nba strong but also not nba quick....will be easier to guard than mudiay...I don't hate Russell just think mudiay is clearly better...to be fair with mudiay I've seen him play three times ever plus every YouTube clip they have of him
both can be very good to great nba players but only mudiay can be a top two player on a title contender...his weaknesses can be improved...Russell's are physical limitations
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:16:00 PM
Who was ripping him? Cataldi?
@JackMcCaffery: #Sixers Brown, who was ripped on radio for letting players draw up plays: 'First, I didn't realize that. Second, I don't care.'
it was Eskin
Eskin was upset that an 18-54 team was having some fun at the end of a dreadful season?
Seriously.
he hates the sixers right now and especially hinkie. he went all in on destroying their plan a year ago so he has no choice but to keep up the schtick
I watched a dvr this morning of yesterdays pardon the interruption and holy shtein did kornheiser murder them for the embiid thing
the funny thing is I wonder if any of these people know that nn and j rich and maybe another player or two also handled a timeout....the national coverage of this only shows embiid...also from all the ones I saw while watching the game they never did this when it was their timeout...they only did it when the heat called a timeout or a tv timeout...that's makes a difference imo....if they had jo-jo calling a end of quarter half or game set when they needed to score i agree it would have been a joke
Quote from: SunMo on April 17, 2015, 08:18:46 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:16:00 PM
Who was ripping him? Cataldi?
@JackMcCaffery: #Sixers Brown, who was ripped on radio for letting players draw up plays: 'First, I didn't realize that. Second, I don't care.'
it was Eskin
I should have known.
who gives a flyin farg about players on this team, this season drawing up plays ?
god i love brown's reaction. guy is so good for this team and this city. love his way of doing things. gonna be awesome to see what he can do when this off-season plays out.
Talking heads on one of the radio shows yesterday said if Saric were in this draft he's a top 5 pick.
Some people seem to think Winslow is ahead of Okafor now. I'm not on the Okafor train at all but that might be a bit much.
someone compared winslow to harden the other day
Who rubs their self raw more with negative Sixers news?
A. Howard Eskin
B. lil guy
QuoteHoward Eskin @howardeskin · 3h 3 hours ago
I have been told #sixers no. 1 pick Joel Embiid fined thousands of dollars this season 4 being late and missing multiple rehab sessions.
as always, when you dont like the message, shoot the messanger
Quote"Any time you have a coach that believes in you, you want to give 150%," Mbah a Moute said, explaining the team's consistent effort. "That's what coach [Brown] does. He believes in his players. He believes in developing them and allowing them to play to their full potential."
While Sam Hinkie's controversial roster construction helped keep the Sixers effort level high, it's head coach Brett Brown who deserves the lions share of the credit.
"It's more than just basketball," Luc Mbah a Moute said about Brown as a coach. "We're still human beings. We still have to live, we're not just basketball players. I think he does more than just draw X's and O's.
"It's probably one of the best experiences I've had with a coach," Mbah a Moute said.
That effort became one of the calling cards for a club consistently on the wrong end of a large talent discrepancy.
The Sixers had the best defensive rating in the league (98.1) in the 4th quarter. They forced the 2nd most 4th quarter turnovers in the league, averaging 4.2 turnovers forced per 4th quarter, behind only Dallas' 4.4 per game forced. Both are signs that the Sixers effort level remained high*.
"The fact that he talks to me is just a big difference right there," Thomas Robinson, the former 5th overall draft pick turned NBA vagabond, said when asked how Brown was different. "I never had that from a coach in the league, to make me feel comfortable when I mess up."
It's that attention, the attention to detail, the attention to the needs of his young players, that may separate Brown from the crowd. Hired in large part as a result of his pedigree as a player development coach with San Antonio, Brown's ability to engage with his young squad and get them focused on behavior, on repeated behaviors that turn into habits, may be his calling card.
Beyond effort, Brown also scored well on a personal level.
"Everybody feeds off of him a little bit. He's not a yeller, he's more like a teacher," Luc Mbah a Moute said. "He works for guys, he develops guys, and he's patient. He's been great this year."
sixers confirmed jo jo will play in the summer league....can not farging wait
yeah thats huge.
also i just did that ESPN lottery machine johnson, first try had Sixers with KAT at #1 and Stanley Johnson at #11. boners.
4th or 5th try has sixers with 5 and 6, taking mudiay and winslow.
there is still a chance.
two weeks from tonight it happens
Grit gets his next hit?
:-D
what the flying farg farg?
Larry Brown: "We actually had Paul Pierce ranked 2nd on our board that year, but promised Larry Hughes we'd take him at 8."
What the hell??
that's not something you ever admit to.
0% late 90's/early 00's AI would play with another superstar
bubba chuck was a lot of good things....a lot of bad things....on the floor he was a god but he was not going to put up with someone else creepin on his shots or his spotlight
whether thats true or not....its irrelevant....their hope there is that whoever they drafted became a superstar
the fact they passed on a HOF because they told another guy they would take him is incredible on so many levels...it almost sounds like bullshtein to me....tho i dont know why lb would make it up....but why would you tell hughes youd take him over a player you had rated higher
i dont really believe it....LB's ego is massive....but it really doesnt matter
pierce and AI were never going to work. in fact 01 doesnt happen if they draft the truth. they would've had to choose 1 and its a possibility LB takes the kansas boy and gets rid of the lazy practice hating pain in the ass.
pierce was not even an all star for the first time until 2002. it would have been fine. but more importantly everything you say is wrong.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 06, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
but more importantly everything you say is wrong.
lol....when it comes to basketball hes batting .1000
hughes and ai literally couldnt have been a worse match as they were both point guards who commanded the ball....pierce was a scoring three...not saying they would have been like peas and carrots because allen was allen but to insinutate even a little that larry would have meshed better is insane...plus pierce was a vocla team leader lockeroom guy having grew up at kansas...hughes was completely cluesless on every level and would have killed for allen
Quote from: phattymatty on May 06, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
pierce was not even an all star for the first time until 2002. it would have been fine. but more importantly everything you say is wrong.
when i build my time machine and tell larry to draft PP instead i will so prove you wrong
I hope that you manage to build a time machine and use it to go back and win an internet fight. I'd say that would nicely cement your legacy.
i didnt know this was an internet.....wait dont core
they are replaying the ai "practice" presser on the fanatic.
his dig into phil jasner was classic - what you know bout basketball ?
Larry Brown was racist too
35 years ago today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr0vwEEbTf4
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Damn, I'm getting old.
molly sully got married
new logo is supposed to come out today....supposed to be minimal changes....not sure why they are messing with it at all
also the doctor can not make the lottery this year which maybe opens it up for bubba chuck....altho i think having jo jo and nn would be an awesome idea....i think you are allowed two people
one week from tonight
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Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 07:56:54 AM
also the doctor can not make the lottery this year which maybe opens it up for bubba chuck....altho i think having jo jo and nn would be an awesome idea....i think you are allowed two people
one week from tonight
Either choice would be good; AI or Embiid/Nerlens.
Or they could do a fan representation and we vote to send lil guy
AI would probably flake out, because he's AI
i think they go with NN and/or jojo....ultimately im not sure they can trust bubba chuck to actually show up
if you are allowed to send two you gotta go jo jo and nn....both or none
b chuck is the obvious answer tho
the new emblem is a pretty significant downgrade
exactly... why farg with perfection
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no way that dawg can do mj like big shot could. :boo
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all time
was livin the life
fake
-fake
-like AI is giving city paper a direct quote
-he doesnt speak that coherently
-its satire
well then its taking twitter for a wild ride
HA! OMG that is to funny! TGIF?
nerlens gonna represent at the lottery. :yay
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"Hello Mr. Hinkie"
it's here
biggest philly sports moment since ____________
probably flyers pens game six when giroux hammered crosby off the opening faceoff then scored like 30 seconds later to put them up 1-0 on the way to the series win
what happens if they only get the 6
suicide watch
id rather them move up and get 1 or 2 than end up with multiple picks at say five and six
their own pick not falling is the most important thing tonight
i mean the rest is a just a bonus i dont expect them to end up with more than one pick
also you can make a more than legit case that the laker pick might be better to have next year
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 19, 2015, 10:32:04 AM
suicide watch
dont get my hopes up...just hang on until you send me the eagles tix
you guys know this...but here's a summary of the odds anyway:
Sixers' pick:
No. 1 overall: 15.6%
No. 2 overall: 15.7%
No. 3 overall: 15.6%
No. 4 overall: 22.6%
No. 5 overall: 26.5%
No. 6 overall: 4%
The lowest they can drop is to No. 6 overall.
The odds on the Lakers pick:
Lakers keep it: 82.8%
Sixers get it: 6th pick (16%), 7th pick (1.2%)
The odds on the Heat pick:
Heat keep it: 88.9%
Sixers get it: 11th pick (8.9%), 12th pick (0.2%)
this is a perfect test for philly sports loserism tonight
they essentially have a 50/50 shot at finishing in the top 3 or the next three 4-6
guess which way it ends up?
two words for you: kris taps
I really want them to jack the Lakers pick so Kupchak can farg off
pablo torre was holding up the liberty ballers draft party t shirt today on around the horn
espn's coverage of the knicks (and the lakers to a lesser degree) pick is sickening
Is there a worse team or franchise in all of sports that gets as much love as the Knicks do from big media?
mets get more than anyone if you factor in that they get way less than they could cause of the yankees shadow
and id put the jets over the knicks but that is mostly due to the nfl being king
bottom line is they are all atrociously over covered
Lakers fans even realize what's going on tonight?
Let's gooooooo hurry up
Btw Russell Westbrook wardrobe is foul
Havas who is this singing the intro?
lb's lottery watch party is at bww's in the notheast and they have stopped letting people in...so people are now tailgating in the parking lot
But I thought no one liked the Sixers?!
Odds lil guy is there in a Hinkie Magic jersey?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 07:27:46 PM
Btw Russell Westbrook wardrobe is foul
They should retroactively have to give their pick to the Sixers for that shirt.
So do we root for move-ups or not? Mixed bag.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 19, 2015, 08:40:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 07:27:46 PM
Btw Russell Westbrook wardrobe is foul
They should retroactively have to give their pick to the Sixers for that shirt.
And he's even wearing his key around his neck!
So not only will the Sixers not get the Lakers pick, but there's a chance the Lakers could pick ahead of them this year?
that seems zesty.
lol knicks
Guarantee top 3 already a win
Hahaha Knicks
equal chance now to get 1 as 3
Hilarious
could have been way worse....but still so mad not to get one at that point
Goddamnit
After all that, it was boring. At least the Knicks got farged.
Deangelo Russell...no complaints
MUDIAY. I was good with top 3.
I really thought they were gonna snag an extra pick though.
Russell or Mudiay?
even two you could have hoped the wolves liked okafor better....at three theres no chance of the KAT straight up...but with assets all over the farging place if hinkie magic wants him bad enough he could move up
So Russell will be the Sixers pick then? Or do they go PG with the guy from CongoChina?
That last post took like two minutes to post to the board.
Weird.
i used to be mudiay but i want russell now...in general you gotta have a lead guard that can shoot...and specifically the sixers need shooters...and russell is far superior in that aspect
cant complain
that is until hinkie punts on jojo in february and trades him for a protected 1
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I'm not gonna compare Russell to ET because I don't hate the guy but I see MUDIAY (ha my phone autocorrects to all caps with word) but MUDIAY has superstar potential. Russell doesn't.
You can luck out on a straight shooter with one of the 5 second rounders.
I lean towards Mudiay too.
Love the white/blue PHILA
d'lo all day every day. very good shooter & has swag. 8) just what this team needs.
i was all for russell but wouldnt have been upset if they ended up with mudiay.
russell will def bring some more swagger and the man can drop the rock.
so possibly
embiid - c
noel - pf
saric - sf
???? - sg
russell - pg
Quote from: phattymatty on May 19, 2015, 11:08:22 PM
I'm not gonna compare Russell to ET because I don't hate the guy but I see MUDIAY (ha my phone autocorrects to all caps with word) but MUDIAY has superstar potential. Russell doesn't.
i dont see one having more potential than the other....and i dont see superstar in either one....to me the choice is do you want a power guard athlete who attacks the basket or a playmaker who can shoot....and right now they need shooting in the worst way...especially with the two young bigs they got...someone has to open the floor and get them the ball
i wont hate on either one if they are the choice and i see both sides....shtein ive been on both sides of these two
they're both better than ish smith...so there's that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 20, 2015, 09:30:04 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on May 19, 2015, 11:08:22 PM
I'm not gonna compare Russell to ET because I don't hate the guy but I see MUDIAY (ha my phone autocorrects to all caps with word) but MUDIAY has superstar potential. Russell doesn't.
i dont see one having more potential than the other....and i dont see superstar in either one....to me the choice is do you want a power guard athlete who attacks the basket or a playmaker who can shoot....and right now they need shooting in the worst way...especially with the two young bigs they got...someone has to open the floor and get them the ball
i wont hate on either one if they are the choice and i see both sides....shtein ive been on both sides of these two
Thoughts on Winslow?
i see winslow more as a glue guy....a do everything lock down defender draymond green type...yeah he might lean more towards being a scorer than dray but i dont like winslow on the offensive end as much as a lot of people...thats not a knock....whoever gets him is going to have a super valuable guy but sixers need a guy who has the ball in his hands every position
what SG's could be available in the 2nd round ?
only thing standing in the way of the sixers future dynasty is the wolves. they gonna be stacked.
in all likelyhood sixers have four number 1's next year....five if you count saric
jo jo
nn
deangelo russell
five 2015 2nd's
four 2016 1st's
one 2016 2nd
dario saric
who knows how it will turn out long term....but thats impressive as farg
hinkie magic. what say you lil guy ? you finally see the light ?
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Quote from: smeags on May 20, 2015, 01:48:04 PM
hinkie magic. what say you lil guy ? you finally see the light ?
if embiid turns out to be the dream and not greg oden....maybe.
i know they have 10000 assets but its very open to question hinkie's ability to evaluate talent. we wont know if it works until it does work.
even if it does it wont change how insulting the last few years have been. i hope it does, of course.
i agree emiid's ability to play and not be the next oden is huge but you're a philly sports fans, the last couple few sixers' seasons shouldnt even have bothered you one bit considering the zesty sports history this city has.
the team is getting there. next year you will have reason for hope with all the young talent on the court. id rather watch that then see the yearly borefest the team was before hinkie got here.
if embiid-d-nn all play next year there will be a reason to watch. there simply wasnt the past 2 years.
"getting there" means what? the sixers are very boldly saying the only acceptable thing is an elite team that can contend for a title. so if they "get there" and they are the denver nuggets of the melo years -- basically the ceiling is the 2nd round -- then what?
yes next year or the year after the sixers will be good enough to make the playoffs....but they might never be good enough to win a title. then you wasted 10 years kicking a can down the road for a 5 seed that you couldve put together this season. there are many ways to build a good team. look at the warriors. look at the hawks. it didnt have to be this way.
Quote from: smeags on May 20, 2015, 11:14:14 AM
what SG's could be available in the 2nd round ?
will probably never be a legit full time starter but i'd like them to grab RJ Hunter if he's around in the second. probably one of the best jump shooters in college last year.
Agreed...take a (removes glasses Caruso CSI Miami style)... shot on him.
And have his pops sit in the stands and fall outta his chair when he hits a three.
ha i don't know why i said jump shooters.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 20, 2015, 09:28:02 PM
Quote from: smeags on May 20, 2015, 11:14:14 AM
what SG's could be available in the 2nd round ?
will probably never be a legit full time starter but i'd like them to grab RJ Hunter if he's around in the second. probably one of the best jump shooters in college last year.
i wouldnt be surprised if rj hunter goes in the lottery....hes definitely gone way before the second tho
the guy i want is michael frazier if he can make it to 35
Q: Where would Dario Saric rate in this draft if he came out this year instead?
A: Top 10. But maybe higher based on the NBA's infatuation at the moment with playmaking fours. Saric is one of the best playmaking fours I've seen in the draft for a while. Saric would be very intriguing to teams. I think given the way the NBA is playing right now, he could be a very valuable piece for the Sixers when he decides to come.
"This is Todd"
"Hey Todd this (some jewish sounding name) from the Sixers. I'm going to be our point of contact wi-"
"Again with this crap? When you guys start trying, let me know."
click
thats some straight up jew on jew crime yo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7pbpsd2I3w
everything i have been reading lately is that increasingly it looks like angie will not be there at three (towns/russell 1,2) and mudiay is falling and could go as late as 6-7...obviously some of this is most likely gamesmenship
i'd actually be fine with any 4 of those really. only thing i'd be furious with is if they picked up winslow or pap smear or some shtein at 3.
Wouldn't be shocked to see a trade-down.
The Lakers threatening to take Russell is posturing to see if Hinkie will bite and send them their pick back. He won't. I'm fine with Okafor or Townes. Both are going to be solid pros and are very tradeable.
im sure the lakers are postering (not to get their pick back thats lol worthy) but its more than that...ive read quotes from numerous scouts and front office guys that think angie might be the best player in the draft much less #2
ill slit my throat if hinkie magic takes and keeps okafor...but im to worried about it....okafor is as anti a hinkie magic player as you can get
if they trade down or dont get D....you're looking at Tank III.
is everyone ok with that?
You take Okafor if he's there. farg the trade down unless someone's willing to give a kings ransom. Who cares if he fits the system or not he's the most valuable asset at that point in the draft.
you blow your head off if you take okafor.....has nothing to do with him fitting on the sixers....he doesn't fit in todays nba period....hes like a better version of roy hibbert
He has more value then anyone else at 3...it's as no-brainer of a pick as there is
oh if they can trade him and still get mudiay then by all means......but other than that his value is not high enough to take him
like if they take him at three and mudiay drops to 6 then they trade him for mudiay and a future one or something along those lines fine
taking him and not dealing him would be beyond stupid
if his value were truly that high hed go one or two
KAT is doing no workouts and will only interview with the lake show and the wolves
https://twitter.com/shamus_clancy/status/605028685117292544
darios team just won to advance to the turkish league finals
dooks been gettin rave reviews in the playoffs thus far
some interesting stuff here....more the details of the book than the actual piece
http://deadspin.com/allen-iverson-has-destroyed-the-legacy-of-allen-iverson-1708683536
do you still give AI a pass for being a giant piece of shtein....make you love him even more....feel even sorrier for him that he's this sad, lonely and depressed....all of the above?
for me, the violence against his wife is something i really dont think there's coming back from. the other stuff is more sad than anything. being violent and abusive toward your wife and children is unspeakable.
thats why the doc on him was so lazy and plain bad. it didnt really touch on any of this.
no surprise that ai was a zesty person. so much wasted talent. :boo
igy will still love him and will blame every cracka in merica except himself for ai's situation.
Quote from: hunt on June 04, 2015, 08:22:36 AM
no surprise that ai was a zesty person. so much wasted talent. :boo
a1ds?
:-D
the a1ds...yes.
Quote from: smeags on June 04, 2015, 08:28:49 AM
igy will still love him and will blame every cracka in merica except himself for ai's situation.
the difference btwn bleeding heart liberals like me and and middle americans like you is that i have compassion for people....you are just waiting for the next stillupfront you can take down...i cant wait till the day bubba actually kils himself and you get legit giddy about it
i feel sorry for the guy and will always love him
and lol at "wasted talent" the cat was under 6 foot and won an mvp multiple scoring titles and took a horrid roster to the nba finals single handedly winning a game on the road against one of the best teams ever...jesus what a waste
yeah, that's about right. :-D
Quote from: MDS on June 04, 2015, 12:31:17 AM
for me, the violence against his wife is something i really dont think there's coming back from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luSDKBcA2so
lol....you cant make excuses for it but ann is exhibit A as to why bubba is who he is
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2015, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: smeags on June 04, 2015, 08:28:49 AM
igy will still love him and will blame every cracka in merica except himself for ai's situation.
the difference btwn bleeding heart liberals like me and and middle americans like you is that i have compassion for people....you are just waiting for the next stillupfront you can take down...i cant wait till the day bubba actually kils himself and you get legit giddy about it
i feel sorry for the guy and will always love him
and lol at "wasted talent" the cat was under 6 foot and won an mvp multiple scoring titles and took a horrid roster to the nba finals single handedly winning a game on the road against one of the best teams ever...jesus what a waste
there's things you definitely feel sorry for AI about....the man drinking alone in a bar instead of going to his camp is really, really sad.
the man beating on his woman and being abusive toward his kids does not deserve your empathy.
doesnt matter, hippie-igy has compassion for an abusive POS while the rest of us MA's act like it's something we should actually hold AI accountable for.
man, how did we get it so wrong ?
so not working out, practicing, or improving his game isn't wasting his talent? mm'kay.... as long as he kept it real, i guess. :-D
for anyone who hasn't seen mario yet...dude can ball.
https://youtu.be/-d4vqiqSMOY
Quote from: MDS on June 04, 2015, 09:59:00 AM
lol....you cant make excuses for it but ann is exhibit A as to why bubba is who he is
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2015, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: smeags on June 04, 2015, 08:28:49 AM
igy will still love him and will blame every cracka in merica except himself for ai's situation.
the difference btwn bleeding heart liberals like me and and middle americans like you is that i have compassion for people....you are just waiting for the next stillupfront you can take down...i cant wait till the day bubba actually kils himself and you get legit giddy about it
i feel sorry for the guy and will always love him
and lol at "wasted talent" the cat was under 6 foot and won an mvp multiple scoring titles and took a horrid roster to the nba finals single handedly winning a game on the road against one of the best teams ever...jesus what a waste
there's things you definitely feel sorry for AI about....the man drinking alone in a bar instead of going to his camp is really, really sad.
the man beating on his woman and being abusive toward his kids does not deserve your empathy.
where is the proof thats hes abusive...and im not talking about ray rice proof....like give me greg hardy proof...all ive ever heard is he said she said stuff in the middle of a contentious divorce...shtein one time she accused him of kidnapping their kids when he didnt
and ive never heard that he abused his kids
maybe im missing all the arrests and convictions of abuse...if im wrong i will certainly revisit my feelings on the man
Quote from: hunt on June 04, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
so not working out, practicing, or improving his game isn't wasting his talent? mm'kay.... as long as he kept it real, i guess. :-D
he did work out and practice....just not as much as chase utley....people who think he didnt work hard outside of games are just morons who listen to the media and know nothing about sports....no one can be that good on talent alone....theres people on the playground right now more talented than allen who never sniff college much less an mvp in the nba
he was hammered when he was talkin' 'bout practice. you realize that, right?
he's a pos. he's always been a pos. phenomenally talented, but lazy, entitled, and spoiled beyond reason.
lol @ dragging chase utley into this. you really are a piece of work, dude.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2015, 04:38:20 PMwhere is the proof thats hes abusive...and im not talking about ray rice proof....like give me greg hardy proof...all ive ever heard is he said she said stuff in the middle of a contentious divorce...shtein one time she accused him of kidnapping their kids when he didnt
and ive never heard that he abused his kids
maybe im missing all the arrests and convictions of abuse...if im wrong i will certainly revisit my feelings on the man
check the link again
if you dont want to believe it, i cant help you
hes not a good person. i want to put my head in the sand as much as you but reality comes callin
im not reading it again....did he get arrested....charged....is it anything other than his ex saying he did shtein ten years ago....im honestly asking i dont know...im waiting for real life evidence other than a bad divorce
Quote from: Rome on June 04, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
he was hammered when he was talkin' 'bout practice. you realize that, right?
how happy would you be if this was really true?....but even if it was i dont see how its anything but awesome...
and for the record id be hammered too if my best friend had just been murdered
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2015, 07:38:45 PM
im not reading it again....did he get arrested....charged....is it anything other than his ex saying he did shtein ten years ago....im honestly asking i dont know...im waiting for real life evidence other than a bad divorce
oh no....no no no. not you, too.
pretty sure that answers my question...but like i said im waiting with an open mind
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2015, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: hunt on June 04, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
so not working out, practicing, or improving his game isn't wasting his talent? mm'kay.... as long as he kept it real, i guess. :-D
he did work out and practice....just not as much as chase utley....people who think he didnt work hard outside of games are just morons who listen to the media and know nothing about sports....no one can be that good on talent alone....theres people on the playground right now more talented than allen who never sniff college much less an mvp in the nba
he was known for his poor work ethic...not even the most delusional a1 fanboy would deny that.
or would you???
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2015, 08:10:43 PM
pretty sure that answers my question...but like i said im waiting with an open mind
you dont need proof to jump to conclusions in 100000 other things....but you need it with some athlete you cock worship
you sound like j
The Serious Sports Observer (don't call him a fan) lil guy is just keepin it real
if AI were on the knicks you would be up in arms over this....of course youre gonna have your head in the sand/downplay it....nothing new here
call it straight tex, alls i ax
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/6/8740845/the-philadelphia-sixers-immortalized-the-iverson-step-over-in-the
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150607_Sixers__exec__Practice_facility_will_be_the_best_ever.html
Your "Philadelphia" 76ers are moving to Camden to practice. The governor of New Jersey has given the billionaire who owns the team $82,000,000 in taxpayers' money to build a facility there that will be second to none. That's the good news. The bad news is, not a single resident of the state will benefit from the $82M giveaway nor will the city experience even the slightest ancillary benefit! So, in other words, grab your farging ankles, New Jersey.
What a colossal joke.
this was announced two years ago romey.....way to keep up with "your" philadelphia 76ers
The facility was announced last June. The back-slapping happened yesterday.
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/sixers/?wss=/philly/sports/sixers&id=306344991
seemed longer ago than that but nothing was said yesterday that hasnt been said for the last year
i would have preferred they stayed in the city but in general its a great thing....its gonna be a palace and if not philly lets prop up camden
They're fleecing the taxpayers of New Jersey with another billionaire lotto giveaway. Camden isn't going to get a single benefit from this. Not one. Sure, they might get a few janitorial jobs out of it, but that's it? $82,000,000 in tax breaks for a corporation worth hundreds of millions and an owner worth a billion or more? It's disgusting, but hey, go team, amirite?!?!?!
go florida state
what a contribution they are making to the community
Quote from: Rome on June 07, 2015, 11:07:57 AM
They're fleecing the taxpayers of New Jersey with another billionaire lotto giveaway. Camden isn't going to get a single benefit from this. Not one. Sure, they might get a few janitorial jobs out of it, but that's it? $82,000,000 in tax breaks for a corporation worth hundreds of millions and an owner worth a billion or more? It's disgusting, but hey, go team, amirite?!?!?!
christie offered the tax breaks....were they supposed to turn it down and take a worse deal in philly?
again i was salty when they announced moving from the city but its capitalism
and is going to transform camden all by itself no...but the fact that someone chose camden over anywhere much less philly is big for the city just from a public relations standpoint and self worth...in ten years that waterfront will be a place people want to go and the sixers will have been a small part of that
They weren't supposed to turn the offer down but that doesn't make it any less nauseating. How many poor people could have benefited from the money that was given away? How many books could have been bought for kids in public schools? Jesus Christ, man... I don't even mind the giveaways if they make economic sense, but this is nothing but a fancy gym for millionaires to play in. It's not going to create jobs, it's not going to improve the neighborhood by attracting other businesses... there's literally no benefit for the community whatsoever. It's absolutely obscene and I'm ashamed of you as a fellow liberal for not recognizing it as such.
Quote from: MDS on June 07, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
go florida state
what a contribution they are making to the community
You literally cannot be this stupid. I mean, YOU can, and you prove it on a daily basis, but just in general, humans simply cannot be this idiotic.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 12:01:12 PM
in ten years that waterfront will be a place people want to go
That's what they said about the Chester waterfront 10 years ago when they were selling PPL Park to the public. (http://articles.philly.com/2015-06-01/news/62882745_1_ppl-park-nick-sakiewicz-republican-wendell-butler)
chester isnt a spit away from philly and doesnt have the built in base that south jersey has for camden
dont get me wrong i dont think camden will ever be must go to place but it has a really good chance of having its own little renassaince...chester is lol worthy...it has nothing going for it most of all location...and theres also a huge difference between a permanent business moving in and a soccer stadium that holds 10 events a year or however many home games a mls team gets that has 20k people driving into the city for two hours then leaving
Quote from: Rome on June 07, 2015, 02:25:19 PM
They weren't supposed to turn the offer down but that doesn't make it any less nauseating. How many poor people could have benefited from the money that was given away? How many books could have been bought for kids in public schools? Jesus Christ, man... I don't even mind the giveaways if they make economic sense, but this is nothing but a fancy gym for millionaires to play in. It's not going to create jobs, it's not going to improve the neighborhood by attracting other businesses... there's literally no benefit for the community whatsoever. It's absolutely obscene and I'm ashamed of you as a fellow liberal for not recognizing it as such.
it was going to be built no matter what....it needs to be built...it should be in the navy yard
the sixers didnt get cash for doing this they got tax breaks...money that the state wont collect not money that the state spent...and its spread out over a ten year period....the facility itself will bring 300 new jobs to camden....its going to be the teams hq....training facilities and practice facilties....its not just a bball court.....its literally a new business moving to camden which is basically unheard of....we can debate the tax credit aspect of it and in an ideal world they wouldnt have gotten that but businesses arent flocking to camden just because
Quote from: Rome on June 07, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 07, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
go florida state
what a contribution they are making to the community
You literally cannot be this stupid. I mean, YOU can, and you prove it on a daily basis, but just in general, humans simply cannot be this idiotic.
nothing like massive amounts of tax payer money going to the aid of some worthless football team....you cant complain about one professional sports team that you dont care about taking advantage of the government while the other that you do like does the exact same thing
if they stopped having country music concerts at the SBC, violent crime would drop 20% in camden.
true statistic.
nm
Sixers stuff:
-- they aren't using the Wells Fargo name in any media anymore since the bank won't enter any agreements with the franchise. Their email about the new uniform unveil next week said "THE CENTER"
-- they're working on a buyout of Saric to bring him over a year early
I guess the posturing has begun. The Sixers supposedly love Mudiay and Porzingis and the Lakers are on Russell. I'm still for the Sixers taking Okafor because he's the best asset at 3.
okafor would be my last choice out of the projected top 4 guys. shtein i am not even a winslow fan but i may even prefer him over okafor. and a big no to kristaps also.
odds of mario coming over are really slim right now. so many reasons. three off the top of my head are 1) the sixers can only pay so much towards buying out saric (i think it's only like $600K or something like that) ans 2) because of the salary cap going up and 3) because of the 3 year rookie contract rules, unless he just really really wants to play in the nba and doesnt care about getting paid, he'd be losing a shtein ton of cash. like possible tens of millions.
the one simple reason hes not coming...
because he doesnt have a buyout clause until next year
if they show that turkish team enough cash he will....never doubt the greediness of your eastern european kin
they can't though, that's the problem.
there's a cap on how much moolah you can throw at international teams and it's not very large.
yeah without an actual buyout availabe 650k is the most they can pay
well i didnt know that
but theres gotta be some wiggle room right....650k plus some other random shady business agreement between jewshua harris and whatever corrupt eurotrash jerkoff owns dario's team
you would think
if qatar can get a world cup hinkie magic can get dario saric
If this team is running out Russell/x/Saric/Noel/Embiid next year, I will be attending many games.
agreed
SI reporting the Lakers are locked in on Okafor
i've read like 3 stories that they're locked in on russell too.
i've been a mudiay > russell guy since the beginning of the year but lately i'm starting to lean towards russell.
draftexpress.com which i've never heard of has the 76ers taking kristaps. i think a lot of the hinkie worship dies if he pulls the trigger on that.
I def want russell over mudiay but if deangelo is gone go for him.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 11, 2015, 04:26:04 PM
i've read like 3 stories that they're locked in on russell too.
yeah all the rage lately has the lakers taking angie
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/11/report-lakers-want-to-take-jahlil-okafor-with-no-2-pick/
http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-l-a-is-locked-on-drafting-dukes-jahlil-okafor/2015/06/10/
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/10/nba-mock-draft-emmanuel-mudiay-kristaps-porzingis-karl-anthony-towns-jahlil-okafor
QuoteThe Lakers are going through the motions with other draft prospects—D'Angelo Russell and Emmanuel Mudiay have been in for workouts—but multiple league sources say L.A. is locked in on Okafor. Despite being overtaken by Towns, scouts still see Okafor as a franchise center—one with an enormous upside.
havas is going to assume the worst as a tried and true negadelphian....but youve gotta believe the lakers are going okafor.
russ-x-dario-nn-jojo coming to The Center this fall
i have no idea what is true and what isnt...its no different than the lead up to the nfl draft....smokescreens everywhere...but ive seen four or five true insiders in the last week say the lakers are enthralled with deangelo and think hes the best player in the draft...the question is do they have the guts to pass on a big man
looks like angie cancelled his sixers workout....rut roh
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Russell-cancels-workout-with-Sixers.html
QuoteD'Angelo Russell canceled this weekend's scheduled workout with the 76ers after getting "real sick," according to a source close to the former Ohio State standout. Another source said don't rule out the franchise securing a workout with Russell in the near future
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 12, 2015, 12:39:10 PM
looks like angie cancelled his sixers workout....rut roh
you still in on hinkie if he drafts that eurotrash dude
Quote from: MDS on June 12, 2015, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 12, 2015, 12:39:10 PM
looks like angie cancelled his sixers workout....rut roh
you still in on hinkie if he drafts that eurotrash dude
four months ago i would have lost it if they took him....but ive spent a ton of time watching film of him and edumacating myself on him and id be fine....really i would be fine with anyone but okafor....however i really want angie
be honest you would be fine if hinkie took tamir goodman
over jahlil okafor?...yes
Apparently Embiid has had a set back. Wojo broke news. Waiting on further evaluation
Panic time?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--76ers-center-joel-embiid-suffers-setback-with-left-foot-014042190.html
you play in dirt, you get dirty
Dei said he'll be evaluated, summer league is a no...if it's still not healing properly don't rule out another surgery and another season lost. Tank part 3. What sucks is from the workout reports the guys drawing rave reviews. No doubt he could turn into a top 5 player within a few years.
Watched some tape on Porzingis. He doesn't have an nba body but neither does Durant.
Thought this was worthy of posting
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2453188-prospect-vs-player-would-you-rather-have-kristaps-porzingis-or-dario-saric
Still on the Russell train but Porzingis is intriguing
anytime you put a release at 945pm on a saturday its always a good thing
but im sure this whole tank thing is going to work out and the sixers are going to win 100 titles starting in 5 years
You wanted Mcbuckets and Exum, I'll still take Embiid/Saric over them and neither has played a second in the NBA
i was fine with 1 out of the 2 they drafted....in fact i liked using the extra pick on dario, thats what its there for. what i didnt like what was wasting a 1st rounder on someone who was never going to play.
but keep believing what shysters like harris and o'neill sell you....poor saps.....buying into a ponzi scheme.
What am I buying? I don't buy tickets to their games. Embiid was worth taking a chance on. He's s once a decade talent.
he looked pretty good against those chairs
1 year ago he was coming off the bench for kansas....2 years ago he wasnt on any DI radar.....hype machine does wonders
hes a legit all world prospect....stop pretending you know anything about him....you are a soccer fan....at the same time hinkie magic can have drafted him and it been the right move but also he should get killed if he doesnt work out cause of injury...when a big man has foot problems and you know it you deserve to get ripped if it doesnt work out...but it also doesnt mean it was a bad pick
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 15, 2015, 12:56:11 AM
if he doesnt work out
might not need surgery! hooray! its going to work out! hereeeeeeeeeeeeee come the titles
concentrate on the uefa cup
thats not until next summer and i really dont care about it
wwc and gold cup this summer my man. final in philly. you in?
doubtful
btw just cause it pissed me off so much...i was at a nyc bar tonight watching the game and there were two cleveland fans there who couldnt stop talking bout whree they were from in ohio...one from actual cleveland one from beretha...loud obnoxious motherfargers thru the first quarter....then they just got their check and left literally in the middle of play like it was nothing....i was so farging salty way more than i should have been
i was actually rooting for cle until then cause im from philly and they lose maybe more than we do but once they did that i was the biggest warrior fan ever
Quote from: MDS on June 14, 2015, 06:07:34 PM
he looked pretty good against those chairs
1 year ago he was coming off the bench for kansas....2 years ago he wasnt on any DI radar.....hype machine does wonders
If he's healthy during the draft he's the consensus #1 pick. Who did they pass over that was worth taking at 3 that's going to be a difference maker? So far the draft beyond 3 is looking pretty weak.
I'm fine with drafting him. High risk High reward. Still sucks to have a setback but the sixers def did the right thing drafting him.
So what do they do in the draft, assuming the worst with embiid ?
Porzingis is really moving his way up, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the pick at 3 if Embiid is a lost cause.
you have to take the best player period...jo jo's health shouldnt dictate anything
Who exactly were the Sixers better off taking at that spot? Is there a player anywhere near as good talent-wise that was selected after Embiid?
I'm not even a Sixers fan and I think Embiid was worth it there.
it was the right move but at the same time it's fair to rip hinkie magic for doing it....he knowingly took s big man with foot problems...that's a recipe for disaster
they couldve literally taken anyone because any player is better than a player who was never going to play
except for ish smith
long live ish.
Quote from: MDS on June 14, 2015, 06:07:34 PM
he looked pretty good against those chairs
1 year ago he was coming off the bench for kansas....2 years ago he wasnt on any DI radar.....hype machine does wonders
Sixer POTY! This had disaster written all over it.
Never forget his reaction when he was selected on draft day. Priceless.
Encouraging news
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article24532723.html
well now, im glad that got all cleared up.
it doesnt have to be a setback or reinjury to have another surgery and miss another season....it could be simply a case of the foot not healing properly (but not due to hurting it again) and needing another surgery to strengthen it up
can someone tell me why its the right move to draft an injured big man who might be good but not trade for an injured quarterback who might be good
they both are the right moves...you can argue the eagles gave up to much but they are rolling the dice on a franchise qb...the sixers are rolling the dice on a franchise player...the moves actually mirror each other quite closely
did you just say something sensible
Quote from: MDS on June 16, 2015, 10:11:36 AM
did you just say something sensible
stop being the josh innes of CF
Embiid's potential laps Bradford's.
who said it
who was it about
Quotehis floor game tonight was unfarging believable....this kid is the next great lead guard in the nba...philly is in an embarrassing mode right now but this kid will bring us out of the abyss
I don't know anyone who posts in all lowercase with all those ellipses. Now you're just making things up.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2498750-larry-brown-wants-allen-iverson-to-join-76ers-front-office
really not much to this article other than lb's love for ai...but it's a slow day so i posted it anyway.
hey guys
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH0gXFlWIAEECl5.jpg)
holy shtein they are 100% real butter
http://www.nba.com/sixers/MadeInPHILA
Love them - fantastic
(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/002/298/170/apple_crop_north.jpg?w=560&h=420&q=75)
1977 jersey
they're awesome
lol @ them putting jojo as a model
Quote from: Rome on June 18, 2015, 08:28:40 PM
(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/002/298/170/apple_crop_north.jpg?w=560&h=420&q=75)
1977 jersey
thanks for the heads up
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/954887_10201325302115006_563752306_n.jpg?oh=acdc15f86aa8a8ca123f1b3b88f74419&oe=5624D0B6)
love the hopkins jersey.
Quote from: Rome on June 18, 2015, 08:28:40 PM
(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/002/298/170/apple_crop_north.jpg?w=560&h=420&q=75)
1977 jersey
now they just need doc.
on the unis...they look good. i don't get the fascination with uniforms...as long as they're not hideous, it's all good & nothing to spend 1 second thinking about.
Quote from: SD on June 19, 2015, 08:46:48 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 19, 2015, 06:41:25 AM
thanks for the heads up
we hnother rape basement
cept women get raped in mine and there's no smoking
youd love it
where are the rick tocchet fight vcr tapes
I like the newest version but it's a hodgepodge of 60's/70's duds. I liked the ones Barkley wore in the late 80's the best. They were clean and simple.
Teams that have to constantly change shtein are pathetic, though. Just my two cents...
Quote from: hunt on June 17, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2498750-larry-brown-wants-allen-iverson-to-join-76ers-front-office
really not much to this article other than lb's love for ai...but it's a slow day so i posted it anyway.
follow-up article:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2498750-larry-brown-wants-allen-iverson-to-join-76ers-front-office
QuoteIverson told Marc Narducci of the Philadelphia Inquirer on June 19 that it's something that would interest him:
"I may not know everything about physical talent or anything like that, but I have a sharp mind when it comes to that look, being able to look into somebody's eyes to tell if they are going to be in the foxhole with you tonight or if they are not," Iverson said Thursday night. "To me, I am a basketball genius and I really believe that, so at any capacity I could help this franchise, that is what I am going to do, whatever they ask me to do."
baby steps allen
Basketball genius.
so, saric isn't coming to the sixers this season. i think we all knew it would go that way but now it's being confirmed. they're even saying it could be 2 more seasons before he joins the sixers.
saric in 5 years...embiid never....russell going a pick before them
hinkie magic
Quote from: hunt on June 22, 2015, 10:52:40 AM
so, saric isn't coming to the sixers this season. i think we all knew it would go that way but now it's being confirmed. they're even saying it could be 2 more seasons before he joins the sixers.
heard he may stay another year so he gets a deal after the new tv money kicks in.
so to recap
-the rookie of the year (who upon being traded, now sucks) was dealt for a draft pick that might or might hit next year and might or might not be a top 10 pick
-the all-world, franchise-changing player is extra injured and extra crippled and hasnt played 1 second
-the heralded european is likely sticking there 3 years, if not more
-the point guard they supposedly want may be off the board at 3, but they might take some 7 foot latvian anyway
what level of hinkie koolaid will be sipped next?
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/06/23/report-sixers-turned-down-trade-for-nerlens-noel/
Good. That's a bad deal
Please don't deal Nerlens, Hinkie
not a chance that offer is real or was ever proposed....garbage report
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 23, 2015, 07:52:27 PM
not a chance that offer is real or was ever proposed....garbage report
heard it earlier...pretty sure someone was having some fun
rip harvey pollack
a legend of legends
Quote from: MDS on June 22, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
so to recap
-the rookie of the year (who upon being traded, now sucks) was dealt for a draft pick that might or might hit next year and might or might not be a top 10 pick
-the all-world, franchise-changing player is extra injured and extra crippled and hasnt played 1 second
-the heralded european is likely sticking there 3 years, if not more
-the point guard they supposedly want may be off the board at 3, but they might take some 7 foot latvian anyway
what level of hinkie koolaid will be sipped next?
Lol! :-D
@JakeLFischer: According to a league source, Celtics included Kelly Olynyk in their offer with Marcus Smart, No. 16 to Sixers for Nerlens Noel and No. 3.
garbage report
russell or bust
FWIW - just heard on 97.5 that it was mentioned on "the herd" on espn that russell is telling people his agent has been told la is taking okafor.
I love all the "leaks" where agents and players are supposedly telling the Sixers they don't want to play here
so the fake story about the celtic trade - legit
chance that someone might not wanna play for a tanking organization - fake
I guess? Whatever you want to think
I posted the trade thing because it was interesting. But if you deem it fake that's cool.
no chance a legit real life nba gm much less a good one like danny ainge offered that to another team
Windhorst just said if Okafor slips to 3 Boston will offer a "monster" deal to move up
97.5 just said that Chris Sheridan tweeted that Okafor's agent told the sixers not to draft him
who wouldn't want to be a sixer?
you get to lose a lot of games, then get traded somewhere else a half a season after winning rookie of the year. it sounds awesome.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 11:07:21 AM
Windhorst just said if Okafor slips to 3 Boston will offer a "monster" deal to move up
they dont have any great young players and they pick 16....i dont see anything they could offer to offset falling 13 spots
Quote from: MDS on June 25, 2015, 11:12:17 AM
who wouldn't want to be a sixer?
you get to lose a lot of games, then get traded somewhere else a half a season after winning rookie of the year. it sounds awesome.
Michael Carter Williams' agent, MDEskin, checking in.
Thanks, Chief!
Talked to several NBA agents who said the 76ers are told every year not to draft their players but they do it anyway.
shut up
the twitter rumors that make the sixers look good = correct
the twitter rumors that make the sixers look bad = bullshtein
Or, and this is a foreign concept around here I know, rumors and anecdotes are posted for discussion and not locked in as good or bad.
But I don't expect you to get that
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25224746/report-lakers-shifting-to-dangelo-russell-at-no2
Silly internet rumorzzz!
Seriously if the Lakers take him what's the move at 3?
bpa no matter what.
I don't want Noel traded or Porzingis drafted
I want Russell or Okafor
If Dekker makes it into the low teens somehow I'd like to see them find a way to get him
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 12:39:14 PM
Or, and this is a foreign concept around here I know, rumors and anecdotes are posted for discussion and not locked in as good or bad.
But I don't expect you to get that
its not about that....its you playing up pro sixers (or eagles) nonsense and immediately dismissing anything remotely negative about them
its called being a giant homer
I'm, genius, that trade I posted is anything but pro-Sixers
Try another angle
its a horrible trade that makes hinkie look smart for rejecting it and makes the celtics look stupid for proposing it
but you know what's definitely made up? that someone wouldn't want to play for a team that hasnt been relevant in 15 years and hasnt tried to win in 5 years.
Never said that was made up either - I find it funny and if it is true and ever confirmed then I'll boo the guy because - another foreign concept to you - I'm a fan.
The Celtics float stuff out there so they can drive up the value of players they want to get rid of, like Marcus Smart. Teams re-evaluate him and maybe it drives up his worth. A lot of teams do this, but this time the Celtics took it to the extreme.
If Russell's gone take Okafor and trade him to the highest bidder.
Still think it goes:
KAT
Oke
Where the farg is Wallace
any high prospects dealing with a year long rehab from an injury out there ?
you cant trade down....the whole purpose of tanking should be to try and get a star....they have to end up with one of kat angie or porzingis (can include mudiay if you want)....its a huge drop off from there as far as players who could end up being a stars....i would do anything i could to trade up to one or two....you got all these assets for a reason....use them to get the KAT
that said if they wanna take okafor and deal him to say the knicks im fine with that...but any further than 4-5 no way
Agreed - a deep trade down would be disastrous unless they netted a legit vet player too and that won't happen
I'm ok with Mudiay too - just don't want Porzingis.
Sac offers Cousins for Okafor and maybe a future first...I don't know, the Miami pick and some seconds. Anyone interested? Hinkie had interest in him when he was shopping Thad around, at least that was the rumor.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
Never said that was made up
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 10:49:27 AM
I love all the "leaks" where agents and players are supposedly telling the Sixers they don't want to play here
go sixers!
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 01:44:22 PM
Sac offers Cousins for Okafor and maybe a future first...I don't know, the Miami pick and some seconds. Anyone interested? Hinkie had interest in him when he was shopping Thad around, at least that was the rumor.
i would do it for the 3....i love boggie
boogie-nn dominating the post for the next decade +. in.
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 01:44:22 PM
Sac offers Cousins for Okafor and maybe a future first...I don't know, the Miami pick and some seconds. Anyone interested? Hinkie had interest in him when he was shopping Thad around, at least that was the rumor.
boogie is a cancer who would absolutely destroy whats left of the sixers organization....boogie needs to go to a solid franchise with strong leadership and respected veteran players...he would be a complete clown show in an enviroment like they have right now
goota garee with iggy on this one. i dont think boogie is a good fit for this team at this time.
celtics own the nets 2017 1st, i think unprotected. the nets are going to absolutely blow next year.
hinkie on his way to acquiring every pick in the 2017 draft.
Quote from: MDS on June 25, 2015, 01:44:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
Never said that was made up
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 10:49:27 AM
I love all the "leaks" where agents and players are supposedly telling the Sixers they don't want to play here
go sixers!
Call some sources and get confirmations of denials for us
malik rose turned down an offer to take an assistant coaching position with alabama
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chad ford reporting lakers are definitely taking angie
Until his names called these reports mean nothing. He was on with Mikey miss an hour ago and sounded completely clueless
ramona shelborn gots to get off my tv.
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 06:44:05 PM
Until his names called these reports mean nothing. He was on with Mikey miss an hour ago and sounded completely clueless
this wasnt speculation tho...it was breaking news on sportscenter couple minutes ago....he was reporting it from sources
sexier bikini body -- lindsay czarniak or wiz khalifa?
how farging high is matt right now?
not yet, just jameson. lindsay's body is unreal though.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 06:44:05 PM
Until his names called these reports mean nothing. He was on with Mikey miss an hour ago and sounded completely clueless
this wasnt speculation tho...it was breaking news on sportscenter couple minutes ago....he was reporting it from sources
It's all speculation until names are called. He was citing sources earlier today too. He has the sixers taking Mudiay and the Knicks getting Okafor. Maybe that's how it plays out but I wouldn't write anything in stone just yet.
IN FOR EMMANUEL.
PLEASE JESUS NO KRISTAPS.
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 06:44:05 PM
Until his names called these reports mean nothing. He was on with Mikey miss an hour ago and sounded completely clueless
this wasnt speculation tho...it was breaking news on sportscenter couple minutes ago....he was reporting it from sources
It's all speculation until names are called. He was citing sources earlier today too. He has the sixers taking Mudiay and the Knicks getting Okafor. Maybe that's how it plays out but I wouldn't write anything in stone just yet.
nothing is official until the pick is given by a team....but i cant believe espn would stop what they were doing and say this just in and go to chad ford and have him not guess but say sources have told him the decision has been made and it not happen....i damn sure hope hes wrong cause i want no even small chance of okafor going to the sixers
Quote from: phattymatty on June 25, 2015, 06:55:53 PM
not yet, just jameson. lindsay's body is unreal though.
I think she just squeezed out a puppy, so the boobage is high and tight right now.
I agree, though. I'd hit it a lot.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
chad ford reporting lakers are definitely taking angie
Ford at 6:45 said Sixers were taking Mudiay, then at 7:00 said they're taking Okafor
i like mudiay or russell. if they take okafor, maybe they trade him to knicks for #4 and another pick. that would be fun.
Please pan left in this KAT interview the brunette in the short white dress needs more face time
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 25, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
chad ford reporting lakers are definitely taking angie
Ford at 6:45 said Sixers were taking Mudiay, then at 7:00 said they're taking Okafor
yeah because hes reporting angie is going two...he has no idea who the sixers are taking...its just not angie hes saying
for the record hes the only one reporting it which is a positive sign
if angie does go two its just gonna be bedlam with all the calls that are going to be coming into the sixers
until about two months ago for the better part of three years okafor has been the assumed number one overall pick in the draft and now he will be available at 3?....people will be wanting to move up so bad
Man, silver's ears could pick up a signal from outter space.
No surprise there
shtein just hit the fan
womp womp
Fuuuuuuuuck
Dammit
lol at the whole family....they all at the same time were like thank god we arent going to philly
Son of a bitch! And he wore Sixers red.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 07:46:13 PM
lol at the whole family....they all at the same time were like thank god we arent going to philly
LOL!
Work that phone sammy
The Sixers trade their pick to....the Knicks.
Lol at the Embiid tweets at the bottom of the screen
Quote from: phattymatty on June 25, 2015, 07:50:07 PM
The Sixers trade their pick to....the Knicks.
Then take mudiay ?
99.99999% of that crowd has no idea who Harvey Pollack is.
This is so great I'm literally giggling.
Someone check on havas
worst fears realized
Alrighty
WOW.
Hinkie magic
Holy shtein, they got it right.
Forgot how big he is. 270 lbs.
what do you think about going to philly
im excited im in the nba
bwahahahaha
Culture
His dad seems pumped to come to Philly
are you sheep still in line now?
he will be traded within the next 30 min.
Lol at the Knicks
And their fans booing
Quote from: MDS on June 25, 2015, 07:59:41 PM
are you sheep still in line now?
If 3 months ago someone told you the sixers would wind up with Okafor you'd have shtein your pants
i literally have no idea how old that kid was....could be 6 or could be 35
Not that anyone cares but I like it. Pops reminded me of Warren Sapp too.
he wants to be here less than you want to be a MADD meeting. they now have 3 big men and last time i checked you cant play 3 at the same time. they have 0 guards.
im sure this will go swimmingly
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 25, 2015, 07:59:41 PM
are you sheep still in line now?
If 3 months ago someone told you the sixers would wind up with Okafor you'd have shtein your pants
this is true....im personally not a fan of okafor but to get him at 3 is not completely different scenario from getting embiid last year at 3 but without the injuries
They had to take him there. They had no choice. They got the bpa. Nothing wrong with that.
wow kristaps has great english. best interview so far too. "i know people think i'm a soft euro." props.
jahlil (i don;t even know how to spell his name because i've literally never written it before) was like my 5th favorite for this team but that's a pretty sick big 3. throw nerlens at the 3, he's fast enough, and see what happens.
HINKIE THE REVOLUTIONARY.
we are pretty blessed to have 2 revolutionaries sports guys in the same city.
I'm fine with it - anyone other than Russell or Okafor and I would've lost it
Hinkie says they're keeping him
So Noel will prob get dealt sadly
jalen just said mario hezonga. he zong ga.
Quote from: Rome on June 25, 2015, 08:07:17 PM
They had to take him there. They had no choice. They got the bpa. Nothing wrong with that.
correct
now i just hope they get some shooters
trade up for rashad vaughn...go after chris mcullough michael frazier tyler harvey
Magic get Super Mario. Perfect fit. Ideal really. Love it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 08:08:50 PM
Hinkie says they're keeping him
So Noel will prob get dealt sadly
you mean embiid will sadly probably never play
Okafor talent wise is bpa he's just more of a back to the basket player whereas the sixers like to run uptempo. If Embiid is a no go then they now have insurance.
hey jahlil you were supposed to go one or two, never even worked out with the sixers, and then remember your mom died?
can't imagine why he seemed so blue with her.
the level of delusion you people have is mighty impressive
its like when a catholic mother knows her son was molested by the priest but she still goes to church because GOD. hinkie is your god. he molests you but you worship him anyway.
Mudiay is dropping...hinkie Magic time?
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
Okafor talent wise is bpa he's just more of a back to the basket player whereas the sixers like to run uptempo.
not just that but hes not a rim protector and cant guard the pick n roll...nn will be able to help him from the weakside but okafor is everything this league is not anymore...
he is very cerebral tho and an excellent passer which is why they gotta surround him with shooters
of course this kind of analyzation is worthless with hinkie magic as none of these guys may be on the team in five days much less five years
willie and boogie gonna run sactown.
If RJ Hunter is around late 1st, throw a few of them 2s at someone. Too many to keep anyway
so the sixers took the bpa....who isnt that good....who is playing an archiac type of hoops....who has 0 interest in being in philly....who might be traded, or someone else might be....or something
sounds like a plan
philly - once the center of the nation, now the nation of centers
Mudiay to Nugs...couple 2nds for Ty Lawson? IN.
Okafor said Joel Embiid texted him last night and said, 'I'll see you in Philly.'
jojo has the iq of a coffee table
he wouldve texted batman if batman were a top 5 pick
Quote from: phattymatty on June 25, 2015, 08:28:55 PM
Mudiay to Nugs...couple 2nds for Ty Lawson? IN.
Same...Lawson would be a nice fit and they need backcourt talent. Don't know if seconds will get it done but maybe one of their firsts next season
in their position lawson is not worth a one....he will be 28 when the season starts and they are at least 5-7 years away from contending....with any hope of embiid ever becoming a player probably gone they need to be zesty and have as many value picks as possible for the next 2-3 years
Does Todd have your password
yeah i feel like i'm pretty realistic with my hopes, but if you think it's gonna take 7 years for this team to get good then the tank is def not working.
but i do agree lawson is not worth a one.
i said a few years ago and it still holds....phillies contend for a title before the sixers
1 is a couple players away from a core, the other hasnt even started trying yet
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
Does Todd have your password
i dont get it?
you think they are contending next year because of ty lawson?....all he would do is get them a couple unnecessary wins that would cost them in the lottery
Quote from: phattymatty on June 25, 2015, 08:42:57 PM
yeah i feel like i'm pretty realistic with my hopes, but if you think it's gonna take 7 years for this team to get good then the tank is def not working.
i dont know what "get good" means but they arent contending for a title for five years best case scenario unless you think embiids career is not ruined...i gave him the benefit of the doubt after the draft....but the fact that hes going to miss this next season as well tells me hes yao ming and every other big guy who has been doomed by the navicalur bone...doesnt mean i dont think he was worth a shot....but ill be shocked if he ever plays consistently in the league...so essentially you are starting the tank over with okafor...even if you believe jo jo he can still become a superstar they have a team of 19/20 year olds....you dont get in your prime and win titles until your mid to late 20's...it takes a long time in the nba
getting ty lawson for free would be stupid...giving up a one would be assinine
tank 3 is on
what an era of sixers hoops we're living in
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: SD on June 25, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
Does Todd have your password
i dont get it?
you think they are contending next year because of ty lawson?....all he would do is get them a couple unnecessary wins that would cost them in the lottery
He's not winning them a bunch of games and someone has to get the ball to the big me so they can develop.
okafor doesnt need to develop...his best attribute is that he already has the whole low post repertoire....nerlens needs to develop a shot and its not going to be difficult to get him the ball since no one guards him
if you wanna do something to help okafor get him shooters to open up the floor...not a veteran point guard who wont be a part of the future and will only hurt their present by causing them to fall in the lottery
Did embiid tweet to welcome his replacement ?
i agree that a first for lawson is dumb.
but for some 2nds, if that's possible, regardless of his age he'd be a great guy for a few years to help these young guys.
i want to get rid of a few of these 2nds anyway.
id rather use them to get every possible shooter i could and hope one turns into a lights out guy
id even use them on euro stash guys
i just dont understand the point of getting a veteran point guard this year...i want the number one pick next year
ugh, OKC got payne. that would have been a nice pick for the sixers.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 09:07:54 PM
i want the number one pick next year
this plan seems to be working. lets keep doing it.
I hate Okafor. Bleh. Maybe I'm wrong.
oubre is for the bullets
Quote from: phattymatty on June 25, 2015, 09:12:08 PM
ugh, OKC got payne. that would have been a nice pick for the sixers.
wouldnt have shocked me if they picked him for the sixers...i heard a while back that okc didnt want any players in this draft
love rashad vaughn
Quote from: MDS on June 25, 2015, 09:13:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 09:07:54 PM
i want the number one pick next year
this plan seems to be working. lets keep doing it.
Lol
Who's the best prospective big man next season
MDS is a basketball genius, i'm curious too.
my buddy's nephew is the #3 SG in the country right now as a sophomore. lonnie walker. sixers could use him in a few years. also farg that means i'm old.
Skal Labissiere, 7 footer going to UK
Ben Simmons, 6-10 to LSU
in fact right now on nbadraft.net it takes 14 players until they get to a 2
can you guys imagine how good they'd be if they had exum right now? i'm still so mad.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 25, 2015, 09:43:41 PM
can you guys imagine how good they'd be if they had exum right now? i'm still so mad.
mcbuckets!!
wait so the wiz just got oubre and grant? pretty solid for a good team.
means i have one more year to be a wiz fan until the sixers dynasty starts.
still wish we had exum.
bullets - oubre
knicks - grant
hawks - tim hardway and two seconds
ah, that makes more sense.
i cant believe the knicks got a 1 for hardaway
yeah thats nuts. raps have a really solid 5-6 man backcourt...too bad canada will never win anything in the nba.
they should legit trade 35 and a late 2nd for RJ Hunter right now.
yeah...id trade any two of their 2nd picks for him...or connaughton...maybe move up to clevelands spot...they dont need any picks
agreed.
Edit fargKK
i actually like michael frazier better than hunter
id be thrilled with any two of these guys when the nights done
tyler harvey
joseph young
frazier
chris mccullough
connaughton
jordan mickey
jp tokoto
franco
jp
nola
or
okafor
nn
jojo
i honestly don't even know what that means is that baseball? i don't do baseball unless i'm there in person.
yea
phils have 3 cornerstones and sixers have .... a nice 4, a questionably talented rookie and african 30 year old yao ming
three cornerstones? so cool bro.
sixers lookin good though
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
i actually like michael frazier better than hunter
id be thrilled with any two of these guys when the nights done
tyler harvey
joseph young
frazier
chris mccullough
connaughton
jordan mickey
jp tokoto
lol
i don't see hernan gomez on your list.
what the farg
I'm drunk but did they take another C?
sixers gonna play 5 centers in 2021
QuoteStanding 6'11 with a 7'1.5 wingspan and a 255-pound frame, Hernangomez has nice size for a center. He's not a particularly explosive athlete, but moves fairly well for his size and has plenty of potential to continue getting stronger.
Hernangomez's physical profile, coupled with his budding offensive skill level makes him a serviceable, fairly well-rounded offensive center, even if he still has plenty of room to grow. Half of Hernangomez's possessions come from a balanced diet of post ups and rolls to rim, with another significant portion of his offensive production coming from cuts and put backs. He was the only player in the ACB to use 80 total possessions in both situations according to Synergy Sports Technology—evidence of how his ability to exploit his size and mobility helped him on the offensive end.
In the post, the near 7-footer does his best work before the catch. Able to simply bury defenders under the rim times, he makes things easy for himself inside by being physical. More than just a bully, Hernangomez possesses good touch, uses fakes well, and has a variety of moves he uses to score over either shoulder with his back to the basket. Shooting a solid, but not spectacular 44.7% from the block, he struggles to score over length at times and has plenty of room to tighten up his one-on-one scoring repertoire. Nonetheless, his footwork and the variety of moves in his arsenal leave some room for optimism about his ability to create for himself at the NBA level.
Leading the ACB in points scored rolling to the rim this season, Herangomez gets around 61% of his field goal attempts in finishing situations around the basket, and coincidentally shoots an impressive 61% on those looks. Presenting a big target diving to the rim and making a nice effort to keep the ball alive crashing the offensive glass, the young big man does a great job moving without the ball in his hands showing good timing and a craftiness finishing inside that you don't often see from players his age. A mostly below the rim player, it will be interesting to see if Hernangomez's explosiveness improves as his body continues to mature, as he will likely face some growing pains adapting to the athleticism of NBA defenders.
Though he only made 33% of the 40 jump shots he attempted this season, Hernangomez also has some upside as a shooter. He shot 72% from the line this season and the touch he flashes away from the rim could allow him to become a serviceable midrange shooter and pick and pop threat down the rim.
On the whole, Hernangomez's 53.7% field goal percentage and 13.4% offensive rebound percentage rank 3rd and 6th in the ACB respectively. For a player just two years removed from the EBA, he's shown terrific promise on the offensive end. He isn't without his faults, however, as his 3.9 turnover per 40 minutes reflect his struggles as a passer. He's actually not all that turnover prone operating one-on-one in the post, with many of his turnovers resulting from mistakes on the perimeter or simply from poor execution.
Hernangomez's biggest weaknesses come on the defensive end. He's a below average rim protector who struggles a bit with the fundamentals at this stage. Hernangomez's foot speed gives him some upside as a pick and roll defender and he should improve his understanding on this end as he gains experience, but his lack of length and athleticism limits his potential as an individual defender regardless. He benefited this season playing alongside Kristaps Porzingis, who provides the ideal shot blocking presence from the power forward position to help compensate for his limitations.
He's also just an average defensive rebounder. His below average explosiveness hurts him as he doesn't gain position well enough as soon as the shot goes up to get by on instincts alone.
Arguably the top remaining prospect from the relatively shallow 1994 international age group that already has sent Clint Capela, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Jusuf Nurkic to the NBA, Hernangomez would be one of the more interesting draft and stash options available in the 2015 NBA Draft if he chooses to keep his name in. Being a free agent this summer, he's able to come to the NBA right away if a team is interested in that as well. He may lack elite upside as a defender, but his promise offensively coupled with his size gives him plenty of intrigue.
haha hinkie is the best
hernan goin to the knicks
for hardaway
connaughton to the nets. MDS how mad are you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
i actually like michael frazier better than hunter
id be thrilled with any two of these guys when the nights done
tyler harvey
joseph young
frazier
chris mccullough
connaughton
jordan mickey
jp tokoto
i'd like qualls.
word spreading that holmes is also traded
Centers R' Us
This dude they cut to right after the picks on ESPN is hilarious.
Someone tell Hinkie that it's ok to pick PG and SG
QuoteGudaitis's intrigue as a NBA prospect and his ability to score inside and pull down rebounds at a respectable rate start with his physical tools. Standing around 6'10 in shoes, with a 255-pound frame and big hands, the physical, slightly undersized center is built similarly to the newly trimmed down Mitch McGary. Despite the knee injury he suffered right around two years ago, Gudaitis is a terrific athlete for his size. He has exceptional mobility for his size, runs the floor extremely well, and is often able to compensate for his average length inside with fairly impressive leaping ability.
On top of his sheer size and athleticism, Gudaitis is a very physical player. He dives to the rim with purpose after setting screens on the perimeter, gets extremely low and looks to move bodies when posting up, and throws himself recklessly into contact when looking to score. Much of his production is based on his effort, athleticism, and physicality.
Offensively, Gudaitis plays a modest role in the Euroleague, and a larger one when Zalgiris competes locally in the LKL. In general, Gudaitis's point production is predicated on his ability to move without the ball, set screens, and crash the offensive glass for finishing opportunities inside. Though he's far more consistent finishing against lower quality competition, the young Lithuanian has converted 62% of his shots inside on the year according to Synergy Sports Technology, as his mobility and assertiveness pay dividends against far more mature and experienced players. A threat to catch and finish explosively rolling to the rim or tip dunk the ball when he isn't boxed out effectively, Gudaitis is capable of making the occasional highlight reel play inside.
He lacks great touch and overall feel around the rim, which makes him a bit predictable as he often looks to simply power the ball over the front of the rim inside, which limits him against bigger, more disciplined interior defenders. Embracing contact, his FTA/FGA of .84 is among the highest in this draft class regardless of league and position. Even as only a complementary option, Gudaitis averaged a tremendous 8.85 free throw attempts per-40 minutes in the Euroleague to rank third among all players, while hitting 72% of his shots from the line.
Though some 72% of the soon to be 22 year old's field goal attempts come right around the rim, he flashes some pretty interesting skills offensively. Lacking a degree of polish and an ideal grasp of the limitations of his skill set, Gudaitis is prone to forcing things on occasion from the inside and out. At times, that results in ill-advised jumpers, wild shots in close, and botched dribble hand offs, but it also leads to an occasional driving dunk, deft shots from the midrange, and impressive hook shots in the post.
Making just six of the 17 jump shots he attempted this season and 44% of his shots operating one-on-one on the block, Gudaitis seems to have a number of budding skills offensively and manages to be a very efficient scorer overall despite the amount of room he has to improve his decision-making and polish on this end of the floor. He ranks as one of the worst passers in the draft, posting a very poor 3.8% assist percentage and turning the ball over on 15% of his post-up possessions.
Finishing fourth in the Euroleague in offensive rebound percentage, Gudaitis's energy and athleticism translates nicely to the glass, especially on that end of the floor. He doesn't have the best instincts on the defensive boards, but he's a strong area rebounder, as evidenced by his 7.8 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted, even if he was far more productive in this area against weaker competition than he was against real big men.
Defensively, Gudaitis struggles at times with the fundamentals, taking poor angles to recover to the ball and being a bit overaggressive on the perimeter. Despite that, much like on the offensive end, he has some promising tools to build on defensively even if he's unpolished. He has potential as a pick and roll defender thanks to his foot speed, competes every play, and was one just 5five players in this draft class to average over 1 steal and 2.5 blocks per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
Though he doesn't have outstanding length, Gudaitis provides a shot blocking presence inside. Not afraid to put himself in position to get dunked on, Gudaitis doesn't hesitate to challenge finishers right at the front of the rim, and his combination of explosiveness and strength have allowed him to send back a number of would-be highlight reel plays this season. The Lithuanian big man's 2.7 blocks per-40 minutes puts him right around the same block rate as a number of far longer players at the college level, specifically Willie Cauley-Stein and Rakeem Christmas. Committing 5.3 fouls per 40 minutes pace adjusted, Gudaitis lacks a degree of discipline and experience, often leaving his feet when contesting shots, but does flash good timing sliding over the weakside.
A highly productive player despite remaining unrefined in a number of areas, Arturas Gudaitis is one of the more interesting international prospects in this draft class after the elite tier of players slated to go in the lottery. A bit of a late bloomer who lacks experience and a great feel for the game, Gudaitis held his own in the best competition outside of the NBA for stretches, and despite his advanced age relative to some of this draft's international prospects, retains intriguing potential due to how many of his weaknesses are correctable. If he were 6-11 or 7-0, he would surely be a lock to be drafted in the first round, but even at 6-10 he remains a very interesting prospect. It will be fascinating to see what kind of trajectory his career takes in the coming years.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
i actually like michael frazier better than hunter
id be thrilled with any two of these guys when the nights done
tyler harvey
joseph young
frazier
chris mccullough
connaughton
jordan mickey
jp tokoto
its an absolute joke that the nba draft takes almost 5 hrs to complete
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
i actually like michael frazier better than hunter
id be thrilled with any two of these guys when the nights done
tyler harvey
joseph young
frazier
chris mccullough
connaughton
jordan mickey
jp tokoto - WIN
k to tha j part II
QuoteOne of the most athletic players in college basketball, J.P. Tokoto decided to declare for the NBA Draft after his junior season. He'll hope to show he has a refined skill set to match his athleticism and be a productive shooting guard at the NBA level.
Measured at 6'6.25" with an impressive 6'10" wingspan and a developing 196-pound frame at the NBA Draft Combine, Tokoto rounds out his athletic tool kit with great explosiveness, agility and quickness. He'll be able to match the size, length and athleticism of most NBA guards which provides him an interesting foundation as a prospect heading into the season.
Tokoto gets a significant portion of his production in the open court, with 24.8% of his offensive possessions coming in transition according to Synergy Sports Technology. He can run the wings with ease and is also able to handle the ball in the open floor and make smart decisions on the break. He's an above the rim player and a capable finisher around the basket when given the opportunity, especially in transition.
Tokoto is somewhat limited offensively and scored the fewest points per 40 minutes pace adjusted of all prospects in our top 100 at just 10.6 points. Most of his struggles stems from his struggles from the perimeter, as he converted just 20 3-pointers in his college career, which spanned over 100 games and more than 2300 minutes, but he was also a below average scorer inside the arc as well, hitting 43% of his 2-pointers and 61% of his free throws.
Tokoto doesn't have the quickest release on his jumper, which will make it difficult for him to him to find openings to shoot against NBA defenses. He also has inconsistent mechanics which hurts his consistency, as he shot 31.7% on all jump shots according to Synergy Sports Technology. He's an equally bad free throw shooter, converting 61.5% of his free throws, demonstrating again how far he has to go to become a better shooter. To stay on the floor in today's NBA, he will need to improve his jump shot quickly to help stretch defenses. To his credit, he has been working hard on this part of his game over the course of the pre-draft process, and showed significant improvement at the NBA Combine, which is an admittedly small sample size. Being able to carry over this improvement to real game settings will be a huge key for his ability to carve out a niche at the NBA level.
While Tokoto is extremely athletic, his ball-handling skills are still catching up to his physical tools, which limits his effectiveness as a shot creator in the half-court. He does have a quick first step that can get him past his defender in a straight line, but he isn't capable of getting into the paint on a regular basis against a set defense, particularly when forced to execute advanced moves.
Although he struggles at times creating his own offense, he does a nice job of moving the ball and finding his teammates in spots where they can score. His 5.5 assists per 40 minutes pace adjusted ranks second among shooting guards in our top 100 and will help him provide value offensively since he isn't a great scorer. He's calm on the ball, sporting great vision that helps him find open teammates and he delivers very accurate passes that demonstrate an extremely high basketball IQ.
With his leaping ability, he can track down offensive rebounds and gathered in 2.1 per 40 minutes pace adjusted. This is yet another indication of both his strong physical tools as well as his excellent feel for the game, as he anticipates well and shows nice timing tracking down loose balls.
Tokoto also shows great potential on the defensive end, where he can use his athleticism to lock down either guard spot. He's a ballhawk defensively, as his wingspan allows him to get steals (1.9 per 40 minutes pace adjusted last season). He can also help rebound defensively, as he pulled down 5.1 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted.
Although he has the tools to be a lockdown defender at the next level, he'll need to show some improvement in his defensive fundamentals to realize this potential. He has the tendency to give up dribble penetration too easily and get lost in screens. With his limited offensive game, he will need to be an elite defender to earn playing time in the NBA which means that learning the nuances of NBA schemes and improving his focus will be key for him as he moves to the next level.
Tokoto will need to make some significant improvements to his offensive game to find a niche and stick in the NBA, which he certainly seems to realize and is currently looking to address. Despite his limitations, he is still an intriguing draft prospect as he brings a unique set of athletic skills and versatility. If his offensive tools catch up, he could be a nice rotation player over the course of his career. While he may need some time to develop, he could end up as a key player for a NBA team at some point down the line. (http://www.draftexpress.com/stats.php?year=2015&league=NCAA&per=per40pace&qual=top100&sort2=DESC&pos=SG&stage=all&min=15&conference=All&sort=22)
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 12:06:54 AM
its an absolute joke that the nba draft takes almost 5 hrs to complete
Yeah really - we watched the first couple of picks - drove to dinner and sat down and ate and drank several drinks and by the time we got home the second round was just starting
Tokoto is a nice pick
shoulda picked jj avila....i covered him in high school
he also banged a friend of mine. she wasnt impressed.
Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2015, 12:30:21 AM
shoulda picked jj avila....i covered him in high school
he also banged a friend of mine. she wasnt impressed.
do you always ask your female friends how good their men farg ?
Quote from: smeags on June 26, 2015, 07:56:27 AM
do you always ask your female friends how good their men farg ?
Comparing notes.
okafor was bpa...can't complain about that pick. now you have 3 bigs with different skill sets (1 with questionable health). you mix & match them, find out what works, & hope one blossoms into a superstar. teams always want bigs so the one/two who don't fit can be moved later on. assets.
the 2nd round is a waste of time...those picks are worthless.
i actually like the tokoto pick.
i don't know a thing about him...but the best you're hoping for in the 2nd is a role player. none of those guys are difference makers & most won't make it.
fine with the pick because of BPA, wanted russell but oh well. more disappointed they didn't get back into the 1st to get a guard.
and i also like how Embid not healing as quickly as he should has turned into he's out another year. in a few weeks he'll be dead
Free agency maybe?
Quote from: SunMo on June 26, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
fine with the pick because of BPA, wanted russell but oh well. more disappointed they didn't get back into the 1st to get a guard.
yeah, that's where i am as well...inability to trade up for a late 1st shows how worthless those 2nd round picks are.
wait, are you trying to say that the process didnt work ?
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
okafor was bpa...can't complain about that pick. now you have 3 bigs with different skill sets (1 with questionable health). you mix & match them, find out what works, & hope one blossoms into a superstar. teams always want bigs so the one/two who don't fit can be moved later on. assets.
the 2nd round is a waste of time...those picks are worthless.
okafor was picked and kept for one reason and one reason only...they know theres very little chance embiid ever has an nba career....and hes the only one that has/had a chance to be a superstar
four first rounders next year hopefully can turn into one superstar....as for the current roster the supestar ship has unfortunately sailed
Quote from: smeags on June 26, 2015, 08:53:01 AM
wait, are you trying to say that the process didnt work ?
tank part kind of worked. acquiring 2nd round picks part...we'll see...but i doubt any of those guys pan out.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
okafor was bpa...can't complain about that pick. now you have 3 bigs with different skill sets (1 with questionable health). you mix & match them, find out what works, & hope one blossoms into a superstar. teams always want bigs so the one/two who don't fit can be moved later on. assets.
the 2nd round is a waste of time...those picks are worthless.
okafor was picked and kept for one reason and one reason only...they know theres very little chance embiid ever has an nba career....and hes the only one that has/had a chance to be a superstar
four first rounders next year hopefully can turn into one superstar....as for the current roster the supestar ship has unfortunately sailed
stop being so dramatic. unless you get a great package for Okafor you hold on to him and let all 3 play and see how it develops. there is no rush to trade anybody right now regardless of Embiid's health
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 08:32:20 AM
i don't know a thing about him...but the best you're hoping for in the 2nd is a role player.
thats mostly true when you have one second round pick....when you have five you are hoping to find a draymond green or a euro stasher like manu or the dragon
the odds are not in your favor but to dismiss the second round out of hand is silly
Quote from: SunMo on June 26, 2015, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
okafor was bpa...can't complain about that pick. now you have 3 bigs with different skill sets (1 with questionable health). you mix & match them, find out what works, & hope one blossoms into a superstar. teams always want bigs so the one/two who don't fit can be moved later on. assets.
the 2nd round is a waste of time...those picks are worthless.
okafor was picked and kept for one reason and one reason only...they know theres very little chance embiid ever has an nba career....and hes the only one that has/had a chance to be a superstar
four first rounders next year hopefully can turn into one superstar....as for the current roster the supestar ship has unfortunately sailed
stop being so dramatic. unless you get a great package for Okafor you hold on to him and let all 3 play and see how it develops. there is no rush to trade anybody right now regardless of Embiid's health
gotta keep it real
two of them cant play together all three is ridiculous...jo jo was 50/50 to survive a navicular injury when drafted...but i was all in on taking that chance and would do it again...but to have a set back already at his age brings the odds down to like 10%...hes more or less done imo...otherwise they dont take/keep okafor
so hinkie just completed his third draft and 2nd outright tanking season. currently the sixers have the following pieces:
-nn
-okafor
thats it. also lets remember the 3 picks owed to them next year, at this point, are likely to all be outside the top 10. the lakers are going to add love or aldridge or someone good. they might not be a playoff team but they wont be horrible. the heat are a playoff team. the thunder are a title contender.
so once again, 82 meaningless games will be played until the big day in may when the sixers hope the ping pong balls float their way and a superstar happens to be at the top of the draft. what a plan.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 08:32:20 AM
i don't know a thing about him...but the best you're hoping for in the 2nd is a role player.
thats mostly true when you have one second round pick....when you have five you are hoping to find a draymond green or a euro stasher like manu or the dragon
the odds are not in your favor but to dismiss the second round out of hand is silly
a few euros have worked out in the 2nd round over the past decade...but's it's super rare. overseas scouting has come a long way & a lot of those guys go in the 1st these days.
only a handful of 2nd rounders in the past 10 years wound up being all star caliber...the other 300+ are garbage.
Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2015, 09:11:36 AM
so hinkie just completed his third draft and 2nd outright tanking season. currently the sixers have the following pieces:
-nn
-okafor
2 more players than they had when he was hired.
QuoteLavoy Allen
Kwame Brown
Andrew Bynum
Spencer Hawes
Justin Holiday
Jrue Holiday
Royal Ivey
Charles Jenkins
Shelvin Mack
Arnett Moultrie
Jeremy Pargo
Jason Richardson
Evan Turner
Maalik Wayns
Damien Wilkins
Dorell Wright
Thaddeus Young
Nick Young
and they weren't even try to lose on purpose back then. :-D
lavoy allen stopped being good after pennsbury.
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 08:32:20 AM
i don't know a thing about him...but the best you're hoping for in the 2nd is a role player.
thats mostly true when you have one second round pick....when you have five you are hoping to find a draymond green or a euro stasher like manu or the dragon
the odds are not in your favor but to dismiss the second round out of hand is silly
only a handful of 2nd rounders in the past 10 years wound up being all star caliber...the other 300+ are garbage.
you would be mistaken to hope every second round pick is going to be an all star....but expecting to get a rotation guy from five second rounders and hoping to get an all star is completely reasonable
I'm optimistic about Embiid until I hear a definitive he's not playing this upcoming season. From everything we've heard it was a minor setback and he's set to play this season.
In hindsight, would you have traded the Lakers pick back to them to take Russell?
i ask this every year, but what will it take for you guys to bail on hinkie?
meh...i don't expect anything out of 2nd rounders. but it they contribute, it's a bonus.
what do you guys know about holmes & tokoto? i'm assuming the other guys stay in europe?
Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2015, 09:45:11 AM
i ask this every year, but what will it take for you guys to bail on hinkie?
if he hires the a1ds as head coach, i'm out.
Quote from: SD on June 26, 2015, 09:44:27 AM
From everything we've heard it was a minor setback and he's set to play this season.
can you post a link for this...im not even being facetious if this is true it will make my year....because everything i have heard is that hes sitting out another year
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 09:48:18 AM
what do you guys know about holmes & tokoto? i'm assuming the other guys stay in europe?
tokoto is basically kj mcdaniels replacement but he might even be a worse shooter...athletic as farg can jump out the gym and will turn into a lock down wing defender in his best case scenario
i know nothing about holmes
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 09:55:10 AM
Quote from: SD on June 26, 2015, 09:44:27 AM
From everything we've heard it was a minor setback and he's set to play this season.
can you post a link for this...im not even being facetious if this is true it will make my year....because everything i have heard is that hes sitting out another year
Well where are you hearing he's sitting out another year? People who are in the inner circle like Noel think he's playing this season. It's uncertain right now but they called it a minor setback, not a major one. Until the Docs say yeah his foot is farged then we can panic.
its been everywhere....google embiid and sit out another year im sure there will be all kinds of articles discussing it...granted its all speculation and rumor because the sixers havent talked....but it still outweighs by a mile speculation and rumor that its minor and hes playing....those reports would total zero....unless you have some to show me...trust me i want to see even half of one
and lol at inner circle...who are these people?...hinkie magic doesnt have an inner circle and if he did it def wouldnt be giving information to anyone outside of it...but if you have some connect to hinkie magic please post it...i want even a little hope right now
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 10:06:04 AM
i want even a little hope right now
andrew knapp and carlos tocci got promoted
jp's obp nearing 400
corny went 3-3 in his debut
aaron nola doesnt walk anyone
wait
so if there's no inner circle and no way hinkie would give info outside of the org where are these reporters getting their scoop on embiid ?
well the fact that he hasn't played a second of organized basketball in like 18 months makes me think he's hurt.
none of us know the real story on embiid...but they did say he won't play summer league, didn't they? that can't be a good thing.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 26, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
well the fact that he hasn't played a second of organized basketball in like 18 months makes me think he's hurt.
of course he's hurt, but all the articles out there about him sitting out another season or never playing again are speculation. they may end up being right but nobody knows for sure at this point.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 10:06:04 AM
and lol at inner circle...who are these people?...hinkie magic doesnt have an inner circle and if he did it def wouldnt be giving information to anyone outside of it...but if you have some connect to hinkie magic please post it...i want even a little hope right now
Bill Self
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25215460/bill-self-on-sixers-joel-embiid-he-hasnt-re-injured-anything
Nerlens was interviewed a few days ago saying he thinks Embiid plays this season. He's definitely inner circle since they're boys and he's pretty much the heart of the team right now.
On a sidenote Okafor said he's good friends with Embiid (they text all the time) and he knows Grant.
joel didn't "re-inure" anything...and the foot isn't bothering him. but it didn't heal properly when they examined him & that's the concern. do you risk further injury by letting the guy play with a foot that didn't heal properly...or do you have him get another surgery to repair it and hope it heals properly this time.
i think that's the issue.
QuoteHinkie: We're not sure what [best course of action] is for Joel Embiid
#trusttheprocess
Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
QuoteHinkie: We're not sure what [best course of action] is for Joel Embiid
#trusttheprocess
so hinkie can't just wiggle his nose and poof, the foot's better ?
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2015, 11:11:12 AM
joel didn't "re-inure" anything...and the foot isn't bothering him. but it didn't heal properly when they examined him & that's the concern. do you risk further injury by letting the guy play with a foot that didn't heal properly...or do you have him get another surgery to repair it and hope it heals properly this time.
i think that's the issue.
pretty much....its what the navicular injury entails....think its healed...try and play....its not healed...try another surgery...rinse wash repeat....announce retirement
watch me make this 1st round pick disappear - poof.
himkie magic
covering the presser tomorrow
gonna ask jah if hes still confident even though "igy didnt want him"
update day....sorta
QuoteGeneral Manager Sam Hinkie addressed Embiid's health during his post-draft press conference today. While Hinkie was not able to provide much certainty on the big man's future — they're still in the process of getting opinions from various medical professionals around the world — Hinkie did say he did not expect Embiid to participate in summer league.
"I don't see how he'd play in summer league. [Those are] not the kind of conversations we've been having," Hinkie said.
Hinkie did say that Embiid was not feeling any pain or discomfort in his foot.
"He feels really good. It's part of what makes this confusing for him, because he feels great," Hinkie said. "In fact, he says 'I can't believe how good I feel. And I've felt great for a while.'
"It seems hard to believe something could be wrong," Hinkie concluded.
But something is wrong. Exactly what that is, however, they're not sure.
Hinkie described a diligent regiment of checkups and CT scans the Sixers have been putting Embiid through in order to help map out a roadmap for Embiid's recovery.
"The nature of Navicular injuries, and the nature of stress fractures, is you see these slow improvements, and then you slow it down. And you load it, and then you slightly unload it," Hinkie described. "Any time you get any sort of negative feedback you unload, and you slow down and re-assess.
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"As part of that, we had a proactive set of regular MRI's that we would give him. Each of those we would send out to a variety of doctors, both internally and externally, and say 'What do you think at this checkpoint?'," Hinkie described. "When we would find enough consensus we would move to the next stage."
Through March, everything seemed to be going fine for Embiid's recovery.
"In March he had a CT scan that looked right on schedule. And at that point he was 9 months post [surgery], and they said 'This looks excellent. Everything is good. Take the next step," Hinkie described.
That next step was increasing his basketball activity.
"That went great, and he played wonderfully, and was able to more and more, day by day by day, including play [basketball], and play in our gym, and shoot, and run, and do all sorts of things," Hinkie said. "Then we had one more precautionary [check-up], that was largely the pre-summer league one, and it looked different. It just looked different.
"He had no symptoms, he doesn't have any pain. It hasn't really been bothering him, he had been many, many weeks without even any soreness, and it just looks different," Hinkie said about Embiid's condition. "So it causes the surgeons to say 'Well that's different. What is that? Let's get to the bottom of this,' and that's the thing we've been working on."
So the quest to find out why Embiid's right foot looks different from his previous scans, and what that means for his future, is ongoing. The Sixers met with Martin O'Malley at the Hospital for Special Surgery on Tuesday. They will now send him down to Bob Anderson of the Carolina Medical Center for another opinion.
Hinkie went on to say that he's not yet sure what the next course of action is, but it sounds like they're getting close to a decision. Everything is still on the table, including the potential for another surgery.
"No," Hinkie said bluntly when asked whether surgery had been ruled out. "All options are on the table.
"We've been talking to a lot of experts around the nation, and honestly around the globe, about what the best course of action is for him," Hinkie said. "We're not sure what that is. It seems like we're close. As soon as we know, we'll let you know. But we're not sure what that is just yet."
has any team in pro sports history had three consecutive picks in the first round of a draft
jahlil talking about how him and amile jefferson going back n forth all year about what is the better city philly or chicago...and amile telling him watch you are gonna end up in the greatest city in the world
I don't believe this for s second but Chris Mannix was just on the fanatic and said the teams in the top 10 he talked to after the draft thought the sixers were set to take Mudiay but Okafor dropped so they went with him instead
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2015, 12:57:29 PM
I don't believe this for s second but Chris Mannix was just on the fanatic and said the teams in the top 10 he talked to after the draft thought the sixers were set to take Mudiay but Okafor dropped so they went with him instead
so they would have taken mudiay over angie but not okafor?....yeah that doesnt make sense
if it were true then hinkie magic has to be beside himself with joy that okafor fell to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LckiKil7_Q
Damaged goods
he cant even walk?
most interesting thing i picked up from that experience:
one time larry brown didnt play clarence weatherspoon in a game because he forget he was on the team
Spoon and Dana Barros were so fun on NBA Jam.
i also found out guests are afraid to strongly challenge angelo for fear of not being asked back, but that was kind of obvious
Quote from: phattymatty on June 27, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
Spoon and Dana Barros were so fun on NBA Jam.
Oh yeah I loved that game
https://vine.co/v/eJeP9ltQBME
OMG he hates Philadelphia
dook won a state title in high school...an u19 world championship...a national championship...now will be a complete loser for the better part of the next decade....i cant blame him
look whos come to the dark side of the hinkie tankerator
im all in on hinkie magic....hes made every right move...but they arent going to be good for a long time
see what most people dont understand is that you dont have to be a hater or a homer...there are even keeled sports fans such as myself that are able to see things for what they are and can give an honest opinion on both teams i love and hate
lol...even keeled may not be what i was going for...but i am able to adjust mid stream and analyze on a individual basis....where as you for example went off the ledge on hinkie magic at the beginning and no matter what now have to hate on him to keep up the narrative no matter what
just like you have to no matter what praise the phillies rebuild to levels that it doesnt deserve....just like you are all in on chip...etc...
emibiid - out
okafor - in
so they lost a year in the rebuilding process...no big deal.
which means tickets will once again be easy to come by for my company's suite. :yay
Quote from: hunt on June 29, 2015, 08:10:54 AM
emibiid - out
okafor - in
so they lost a year in the rebuilding process...no big deal.
most importantly they lose the chance for an elite prospect
yep... i still think joel was worth drafting...gotta swing for the fences in the nba.
I'm not seeing this anywhere. Is the Embiid thing official or are we just being our usual sunshiney selves today?
nothing has changed since last week. the only "new" information is that hinkie was on mikey miss last week and admitted that they are nervous.
seven footer with a shattered navicular = nervous
yeah...gotta move ahead under the assumption he's done. if a miracle happens, then boners all around. but noel/okafor is the frontcourt they're rolling with.
i don't think he's done but I think he's going to be a guy that has playing time restrictions his whole career.
whats the o/u on career games?
id go 150
No one is going to hear or know anything more until summer league starts to wind down and they start real prep for the regular season. That won't stop anyone from speculating, but just assume that no new news is coming for a few months.
if joel is done, gotta name him director of social media to keep him in the organization.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 29, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
whats the o/u on career games?
id go 150
i looked up Yao Ming to see how many he played because he had the same issue, or feet issues anyway. He played in 486 games which I would have never thought.
of course, he didn't come into the league with the issues like joel but still that makes me say over
yao had all kinds of injuries so its not a 100% equal comparison but he played 180 games after his navivcular injury
i wonder if they thought to buy joel some dr. scholls for his bball sneakers. maybe that will help
agreed....gellin could only help.
gellin for joellin
Jah beat Brett to the gym this morning for workouts. Definitely doesn't wanna be here
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11234807_10154065948102516_1500572747118804609_n.jpg?oh=c26711776f88c0ce99089270a9ed07c5&oe=561E8E03)
nice ... love the doc jersey.
Where's the Vine of him ripping the jersey off and throwing it on the street??
jesus he looks small there
okafor is the one in the jersey not the gray shirt
That's actually Ish Smith in the gray.
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
okafor is the one in the jersey not the gray shirt
LOL :-D
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
okafor is the one in the jersey not the gray shirt
ha
Embiid hinting he may be healthy
http://www.nj.com/sixers/index.ssf/2015/06/did_joel_embiid_hint_at_clear_bill_of_health_with.html
Hopefully it's true.
But probably no lt since Drs Eskin and mds have him crippled and dead
That post could mean literally anything. Stop reading into everything idiots.
It's the internet dude - what else should we do?
Direct your boners at Hextall, duh.
Brett was on 97.5 this morning and said Embiid is now 7'2"
more body on top of it is exactly what his navicular needs
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Also GRIII wasn't tendered so he's outta here, and it looks like they won't have to amputate Embiid's legs
QuoteMichael_Levin
SOURCE: Sixers think Okafor and Embiid are absolute studs, Nerlens very much the third. Embiid injury situation not hopeless.
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Chokafor?
Is he really going to wear 8 for real?
Sims will be a FA - no shocker
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 30, 2015, 08:10:40 PM
Is he really going to wear 8 for real?
Yup. 15 is retired
http://www.libertyballers.com/2015/7/1/8881413/lamarcus-aldridge-free-agent-rumors-sixers-and-rockets-talking-trade?utm_campaign=libertyballers&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
love how its worded in the meta to make it seem like aldridge could go to the sixers....only for it to be speculation about the sixers taking on some god awful contract because, what the farg, why not tank again?
Sixers just got Stauskas, Jason Thompson and Carl Landry from Sactown for some of those foreigners we'll never see
@ZachLowe_NBA: Sixers will receive a protected 1st-round pick from the Kings, and swap rights w/ Sacto in the 1st round of two other drafts, sources say.
Well then...
Philly gets Sac's top-10 protected 1st two years after they pay off an obligation to Chicago (also top-10 protected in 2016 and 2017; else becomes a 2017 2nd)
Philly also gets the right to swap 1sts in 2016 and 2017
One of Philly's 129391 2nds and the rights to Gudaitis and Mitrovic go to Sactown
Stauskas 9 yrs ago:
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you could say hinkie took vlade divac to school, but then again, vlade divac is running an nba team so hinkie basically is dealing with a child
they got a legit shooter for taking on 2 bad contracts so the kings can sign a bunch of veterans and maybe get the 7 seed if everything goes right. jesus.
im not who sure the "legit shooter" is but holy shtein:
HINKIE. MAGIC.
they are on the verge of it right now....but root for a complete sactown implosion
I've read the details three times now and I still can't believe Hinkie pulled that haul off. I know Sactown was desperate for cap space, but jeez...
Also, LOL Vlade...
SAUCE CASTILLO
unless i'm reading something wrong, Hinkie just raped someone. stauskas, the rights to swap 1sts in 16 and 17, and sactwon's 2018 1st for two dirty euro jabroneys? I dig it.
SAUCE CASTILLO
well that def fulfills the shooter requests
Hinkie just pulled the reigns back from Hextall.
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I'm in disbelief over that trade. Now I don't even need to necessarily root for them to be awful because SAC is in the west and is going to be atrocious.
rajon rondo, cousins, george karl...what could possibly go wrong?
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these are the sixers victory now....they just play fantasy basketball and collect assets. i mean this is a great trade and all, but its going to take a few years to take advantage of that pick swap. a lot can happen between now and then, but the odds point to sac being in the top 5 in 1 of those 2 years.
time for hinkie to start scouting high school sophomores.
Quote from: MDS on July 02, 2015, 09:38:47 AM
these are the sixers victory now....they just play fantasy basketball and collect assets. i mean this is a great trade and all, but its going to take a few years to take advantage of that pick swap. a lot can happen between now and then, but the odds point to sac being in the top 5 in 1 of those 2 years.
time for hinkie to start scouting high school sophomores.
Even the most avid hater has to be happy with this move.
Quote from: phattymatty on July 02, 2015, 08:14:27 AM
unless i'm reading something wrong, Hinkie just raped someone. stauskas, the rights to swap 1sts in 16 and 17, and sactwon's 2018 1st for two dirty euro jabroneys? I dig it.
the one caveat is that if the pick falls out of the top 10 then chicago gets it and the sixers cant swap....which they probably wouldnt do anyway...but basically gotta hope the kings finish in the bottom ten in either 2016 or 2017 or the sixers dont get the swaps
also the 2018 first is top 10 protected
and the 2018 first could be a 2019 first if the sacramento #1 owed to chicago conveys in 2017 as the sixers cant get the pick until two years after the first round pick sacramento owes chicago conveys or when it turns to a 2nd rounder in
im not entirely clear on this but it looks to me like the first rounder they got from sacramento is a one shot deal....they have to get it the first year they are eligible or they lose it....im only saying this because i havent seen any further protections for it past 2018/19
again i dont know the fine print or i could simply be reading this all wrong but it looks to me in a worst case scenario the sixers could actually end up not getting any draft picks or draft pick swaps out of this
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 02, 2015, 12:10:16 AM
One of Philly's 129391 2nds and the rights to Gudaitis and Mitrovic go to Sactown
in the next three years the sixers actually have more first round picks than second round picks
Quote from: SD on July 02, 2015, 09:48:47 AM
Quote from: MDS on July 02, 2015, 09:38:47 AM
these are the sixers victory now....they just play fantasy basketball and collect assets. i mean this is a great trade and all, but its going to take a few years to take advantage of that pick swap. a lot can happen between now and then, but the odds point to sac being in the top 5 in 1 of those 2 years.
time for hinkie to start scouting high school sophomores.
Even the most avid hater has to be happy with this move.
its a great move...and it pushes the potential "start date" back even further because now they could get a top 5 pick in 2018 or whatever.
more assets! more first round picks that might result in drafting the next kevin durant! this is what its all about, boys.
The pick swap is next year and the year after MDS. Sixers can swap with the Kings the next two seasons, so it has immediate dividend if the Kings are awful (or end up like 8th but move up in the lottery).
From what I see about the future first round pick, it isn't happening until 2018 at the earliest but it's only top 10 protected the first year if I read it correctly.
the first is either 2018 or 2019.....because the latest the sac pick can convey to the bulls is 2017
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 02, 2015, 09:59:29 AM
The pick swap is next year and the year after MDS. Sixers can swap with the Kings the next two seasons, so it has immediate dividend if the Kings are awful (or end up like 8th but move up in the lottery).
From what I see about the future first round pick, it isn't happening until 2018 at the earliest but it's only top 10 protected the first year if I read it correctly.
genius at work
even if there are no draft picks involved which I guess could technically happen, they got the 10th pick of the draft last year which a lot of people actually wanted the sixers to get. just for taking on some salary which people would find reasons to hate if they didn't.
a real stretch to find anything wrong with it.
I'm sure Eskin will find something to bitch about
Quote from: phattymatty on July 02, 2015, 11:41:09 AM
even if there are no draft picks involved which I guess could technically happen, they got the 10th pick of the draft last year which a lot of people actually wanted the sixers to get. just for taking on some salary which people would find reasons to hate if they didn't.
a real stretch to find anything wrong with it.
its still a great trade just to play the odds...both on the picks and that stauskus might actually be good...and give up nothing....but a lot people (not you) out there are going bonkers over it like the sixers got all these number ones
I was a pretty loud advocate for Stauskas last year because of his shooting + athleticism but he was pretty awful last year. Hope the second half of last year is more representative.
Regardless it's a no-risk gamble.
all you can ask for from staukus is that he can turn into an off the bench instant offense type guy...like a sane jr smith...or a spot up three point shooter to space the floor for the big men
so many people have been talking today about how he could be their sg of the future which is ridiculous
that's because people don't truly understand the plan. people have been bitching since the daft that they didn't walk away more a team that can start to compete.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 02, 2015, 01:00:57 PM
all you can ask for from staukus is that he can turn into an off the bench instant offense type guy...like a sane jr smith...or a spot up three point shooter to space the floor for the big men
so many people have been talking today about how he could be their sg of the future which is ridiculous
don't like the jr smith comparison. :boo he's a white guy, so you have to compare him to other white guys. i'd go korver there.
jj reddick??? :paranoid
Quote@Hoop_76
There's a scenario, albeit an unlikely one, where Sixers win 30+ games AND get picks 1, 4, 11, & 16, AND have room for two max contracts.
Per source, Cousins was very tough on Stauskas all last year. Told Kings management he wouldn't pass ball to Stauskas if on court together.
Culture?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 02, 2015, 01:00:57 PM
all you can ask for from staukus is that he can turn into an off the bench instant offense type guy...like a sane jr smith...or a spot up three point shooter to space the floor for the big men
so many people have been talking today about how he could be their sg of the future which is ridiculous
Crawford
lol...no
before the 2014 draft, they were comparing him to everyone from jason kapono to kevin martin...with some redick & korver sprinkled in between.
hes not at all comparable to reddick or korver
jamal crawford is a fair comparison as far as their games he just will never be nearly that good
im sticking with jr smith
lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 02, 2015, 03:47:27 PM
hes not at all comparable to reddick or korver
jamal crawford is a fair comparison as far as their games he just will never be nearly that good
im sticking with jr smith
I didn't say he was Crawford, I said that's the best possible version of his game and realize he'll prob never get there.
no staukas sucks and they might not even swap picks and the pick theyre getting is top 10 protected so the player they get will suck
ok got it
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 02, 2015, 04:27:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 02, 2015, 03:47:27 PM
hes not at all comparable to reddick or korver
jamal crawford is a fair comparison as far as their games he just will never be nearly that good
im sticking with jr smith
I didn't say he was Crawford, I said that's the best possible version of his game and realize he'll prob never get there.
yeah but it's not even close to a best possible version...in his dreams stauskus could never be 6th man of the year...plus he can't guard at all
according to j the best rebounder of the last ten years in the nba has signed with the nets
theres no reason to believe jo jo is going to play next year but looking at their roster right now if he does the sixers will have four top eight overall picks in the last two years on the floor at the same time
Ah well I wished they would've kept him but no biggie
wes matthews and monta ellis both turned down the kings
so all thats left is rondo (who sucks and is a fleshpop) and like lou williams and stuff
this trade is a little unfair
thing is with this deal is that sacramento didnt dump the contracts of two 35 year old bench warmers....jason thompson played the 4th most minutes and had the second most rebounds on the team...landry started 15 games...so if they whiff in FA they didnt just not improve they are worse
the thing to hope for is boogie to get hurt...he missed 23 games last year and the kings were an abomination without him....basically they are a boogie injury away from being the worst team in the league
they already might be....and boogie was teetering on the edge with karl and ownership. then they whiffed in free agency.
im sure hes going to love playing another season with garbage for a coach who hates him.
sixers actually now would be wise to try to make the playoffs. kings are going to take care of that top 3 pick thing for them.
free agency has a long way to go...not getting rondo helps them...they will get people...just a matter of how much it improves them if at all...and with a healthy boogie they won 30 games in the west...they are far from the worst team in the league
but without boogie sixers are in business
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 02, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
im not entirely clear on this but it looks to me like the first rounder they got from sacramento is a one shot deal....they have to get it the first year they are eligible or they lose it....im only saying this because i havent seen any further protections for it past 2018/19
so i found clarification
the first rounder is top 10 protected in 2018 and 2019 and unprotected in 2020
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Just amputate and get this over with
yao ming in the last game he ever played
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reminder: nba tv tomorrow nite at 700
craig bolerjack just pronounced jerami grants name phonetically....as in jerrah-my
he also said ja-quille okafor
im a few chapters into the AI book....its really, really good
you range page to page from feeling sorry for allen to being angry at him.
I seriously had no idea that you read books.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 07, 2015, 02:20:49 PM
I seriously had no idea that you read books.
they have to be about sports or tv
How awful for you.
http://youtu.be/IoACIIz33II
before this game furkan had three 3's in his life at any level of ball....he has three triples tonight
rumors flying now that the kings are going to back out of their deal with the sixers similar to what deandre is doing with mavs
Where are you reading that? SAC already spent their $ so they cannot do that unless they're unsigning FAs.
no money has been spent yet...they could pull back off the sixers deal then make other more intelligent deals to create cap room...basically what they should have done from the start
Not only would they have to reneg on the Sixers deal, they would then have to back out of FA deals on top of that. I'm aware it is legal, but you cannot do that as a team and continue to function. Not going to happen.
they wouldnt have to back out of the deals....they would simply have to trade two of landry thompson staukus to create enough money for the players they signed...this could easily be done for a much lower price than hinkie raped them for
remember the idea at the time of the sixer trade was that theyd use the cap room to sign much more expensive players than they ended up getting
paranoia alert
You don't agree to a deal, announce it, and then renege on it. If the Kings and specifically Divac pull that shtein, there's gonna be hell to pay. They'll find doing business with other teams will be almost impossible after punking another franchise like that.
It's like Vlade didn't know the deal was bad until everyone in the media told him it was.
Quote from: Rome on July 08, 2015, 07:56:05 PM
You don't agree to a deal, announce it, and then renege on it. If the Kings and specifically Divac pull that shtein, there's gonna be hell to pay. They'll find doing business with other teams will be almost impossible after punking another franchise like that.
There won't be hell to pay. There's 30 (?) teams in the league. There's a finite number of good NBA players, and the Kings have some of them. Others teams would want these players regardless. The teams who care about petty shtein are the ones who stay in the basement.
However, I still agree that doing business with other teams will be almost impossible. Not because of this fake deal, but because the Kings are like the Phillies of the NBA. What a joke of an organization.
as long as vlade divac is the gm and or they have a psycho owner teams will be standing in line to deal with the kings
Stauskas is on his way to Vegas
awesome. i didn't think that was gonna happen.
for some reason i thought the utah league lasted two weeks. gonna be in SLC next week and was hoping to catch a game. guess i should have looked at a calendar.
culture
Asked Jahlil Okafor about his relationship with @JoelEmbiid. Said he's been hanging at Embiid's condo a lot playing Mortal Kombat.
sixers hired kevin durant bff todd wright as assistant coach
whoooooooa nellllllllly
hey kevin do you want to come to philly and babysit a bunch of college kids who have no clue how to play nba basketball yet? no? ok thanks!
hey kevin how would you like to lead a bunch of young studs to a few nba titles?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 09, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
hey kevin how would you like to lead a bunch of young studs to a few nba titles?
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Quote from: ice grillin you on July 09, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
hey kevin how would you like to lead a bunch of young studs to a few nba titles?
2 seconds ago you said they were 5 years away from being a contender....you laughed at the idea of them signing any free agent until everyone proved themselves...now youre convinced they are going to sign durant
you really a special kind of sixers fan boy
that was before they hit his bff
look out now
That would be an ultimate farg you to Washington fans who think it's a done deal he's going to the wizards
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 09, 2015, 07:36:59 PM
that was before they hit his bff
look out now
if this were the eagles or phils youd be going HAM on whoever brought this up....but since its your favorite squad of them all, its you who starts daydreaming
pathetic
Okafor is about as meh as I expected. He desperately needs to get proficient at FTs.
if you mean meh as in not flashy then yes. but dude is smooth as butter down low. he's like he anti-nerlens with the ball in his hands. really curious as to how that's going to work with them both on the court.
its not going to work....the spacing would be atrocious with two guys playing two feet from the rim...at times on defense you could get away with it by having nn out defending the pnr but if you do that consistently you waste his dominant rim protection and jahlil is a terrible defender in general right now and will never be a rim protector
on offense it would be a catastrophe
in an ideal world jo jo is healthy okafor dominates offensively to where you can move him for a huge return and you go forward with jo jo and nn...you can work with that
lol at "legitimate chance"....they know hes out for another year they just dont know how and when to say it...
QuoteSALT LAKE CITY - The 76ers have yet to decide on Joel Embiid's playing status and are still acquiring information regarding the healing of his right foot.
"No change as of yet," Sixers general manager Sam Hinkie said Thursday. "A number of meetings are happening about that, even one today. But we have meetings almost every day about that. We don't have anything ready to announce."
The team announced last month that Embiid had a setback in his recuperation. The 2014 first-round draft pick from Kansas missed what would have been his rookie season after undergoing surgery last June to repair a stress fracture in the navicular bone of his right foot.
It is unknown if Embiid, 21, will have to undergo another surgery, which could sideline him for part of next season. Nothing has been ruled out.
A source said he doesn't believe Embiid will be available to play at the start of the NBA season. There's also a legitimate chance that the 7-foot center could miss the entire season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2015, 09:26:21 AM
its not going to work....the spacing would be atrocious with two guys playing two feet from the rim...
i agree with all of that. i mean i guess it's a good problem to have at the moment but in that first game, even furkan being close to him down low was messing him up. can't imagine how nn being within 3 feet of him is going to look.
also how gorgeous is kazemi. admit it guys.
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also i missed last nights game but hinkie called okafor jaws?
OUT
if you are talking about the in game interview he gave with the announcers i was watching and could have swore he said jah several times....but maybe i miss heard
if anything he said "Jah's" like "Jah's feet" so that sounds like a boston guy saying jaws
i'm watching replay now. STAY TUNED
check for his boston accent in between his sounthern twangs
quin snyder definitely has women tied up in his basement
tomorrow - 230 - lakers
sunday - 430 - celtics
tuesday - 1130 am - knicks
stauskas is a coin flip to play at some point
what up holmes out with a fractured elbow
Holmes fall looked painful. Hoping to see stauskas and okafor together.
yeah they moved the sixers back because (some of them) they were in utah
Pompey reporting Embiid is done for the year again....needs another surgery
Well sonofabitch
RIP Joel
i for one am shocked
#trusttheprocess
Is there anything better than 1030 summer league basketball?
who's in with me?
you are so deep into this cult its frankly sad
if this was a flyers summer league game I'd be all in
in fact until I had to work yesterday I was gonna go to vorhees to watch their development camp
you can't only live your life thru soccer and baseball
actually im watching the mexico/guatemala match right now
very entertaining despite being 0-0
please don't give an opinion on an American sport ever again
Quote from: MDS on July 12, 2015, 10:55:27 PM
actually im watching the mexico/guatemala match right now
very entertaining despite being 0-0
guatemala is the dirtiest team in the tournament. mexico's players should try out for their olympic diving team, however. what a disgrace.
other than the flopping and diving, it was an entertaining match. the mexican coach is fun to watch no matter what's going on game-wise.
so, this emidd news is a bit of a setback.
the news is a month old...this was just the official announcement....it didnt phase me even a little...ive been in a great depression since mid june
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
the news is a month old...this was just the official announcement....it didnt phase me even a little...ive been in a great depression since mid june
hopefully that depression leads you to jumping off a bridge....into a giant pile of soccer balls!
so as cuz said, it's time for the "triple tank".
gotta trust the process, its been 3 years and they have maybe 2 good players who might or might not be able to coexist with each other
as always, trust the process
sixers are officially the only team in the nba to not sign a free agent
lol hinkie magic is the best
why sign when vlade gives it up sweet and juicy like a virgin on prom nite?
finished the AI book....outside of the author mistaking raja bell for vernon maxwell a few times and getting some info backwards about allen's injury in the 2001 ecf, it was sensational.
here are some indisputable facts
-AI is a violent drunk who beat his woman and peed on the floor in front of his kids
-AI is a child who never bothered or was forced to grow up
-AI is loyal to everyone and anyone who was and is there for him
-AI is trustworthy, to a fault
-AI was very lazy and irresponsible with his body, and got by for about 10 years because of his disgusting genes and athletic ability. i realize its a racist stereotype, but its true. he never took care of himself and figured he could continue showing up 10 minutes before tipoff and rip off 50 points in his 30's. that and him being a drama queen POS is why his career cratered so much.
-Ann farged him up real good. she had him make drug runs when he was a teenager. she threw ragers when he was a kid. his upbringing was chaotic and unfit for any child.
ultimately he is a sad, lonely man incapable of happiness. just last year he blew off his own summer camp to drink alone at a pf changs. more than anything, i feel very, very sorry for him. he is really not someone worthy of your praise. he is beneath you.
not gonna be surprised to see him kick the bucket before he is 50.
sixers averaged about 23,000 a game last year
thats viewers, not fans
thats an abomination of a number and a complete and utter embarrassment.
not really surprising. i mean what was the incentive for watching ?
talk to the guy who watched every game of the eddie jordan year...and the year where mcw was the only interesting player (who got traded and sucks because hinkie is perfection)....and last year when NN was the only guy
you know, him. one of the 23,000ish extreme skins sheep
rockets gave their mid level exception to k to tha j.....his gamble last year struck gold
good news, everyone. turns out this joel embiid dude rebroke his foot. so t the sixers knew all along and lied about it, because, well, thats what cults do.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150720_Sixers_should_improve_slightly_next_season.html
let's just pretend embiid never existed, mmm'kay.
Embiid? More like Embooooood...amirite?
Quote from: hunt on July 20, 2015, 10:26:19 AM
let's just pretend embiid never existed, mmm'kay.
pretty much....
they took a massive cut and missed big time....gotta move on to the next at bat....assets galore still everywhere
yeah i have no issue with the sixers taking a shot at him. i mean who else were they supposed to take ?
mcbuckets
Exum
and before igy replies I'm being facetious
alls i know is the 7 footer from africa who played basketball for 3 years and was injured for 3 years wasn't going to ever be an nba player
spin it anyway you want. the dude was NEVER going to play. if you were cool with wasting the #3 pick on that, fine. if you were cool with them tanking to draft a guy who was never going to play, fine. im not. but maybe im just an idiot. ok i am. but anyway.
outside of cult-leader-in-chief havas, none of you really give a crap about the sixers anyway. sd hates black people....j is a rockets fan...smeags is white trash....ya'll are fake. the sixers have been an afterthought since 2001 and everyone is fine. but the eagles or phillies are bad, oh man.
Quote from: MDS on July 20, 2015, 11:18:46 AM
sd hates black people
I thought I hated women
a black jewish woman who listens to josh innes would be the worst
Since everyone else is OUT on the Sixers, I'm dropping back IN.
Go team.
(Until the Magic gets good again. When that happens, I'm farging OUT like a motherfarger again.)
im IN one hundred and i deny your application
Dude. I'm white. I'm old. I'm not even from the Philly area anymore. So, basically, I'm just like you. Don't hate.
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2015, 09:20:15 PM
Dude. I'm white. I'm old. I'm not even from the Philly area anymore. So, basically, I'm just like you. Don't hate.
boom
Quote from: Rome on July 20, 2015, 09:20:15 PM
Dude. I'm white. I'm old. I'm not even from the Philly area anymore. So, basically, I'm just like you. Don't hate.
you forgot magic and seminole fan
also arent you from the shore?
plus you are lil guy/munson white...golf and soccer white...music festival white
im debbie harry white
Born in Abington, raised in Sea Isle.
White.
When I was shopping for tile we went to this place on Bustleton ave. The guy (obviously a jew, he reminded me of Murray from Goodfellas) struck up a conversation with us about the Sixers. It's weird old jew dudes love the Sixers, enough to buy season tickets when they blow.
jews in the northeast love the nba because in the early 20th century immigrant jewish neighborhoods were huge in the inner cities...and basketball obviously is the city game...they also related to the stereotyping that blacks went/go thru because they faced the same as a "minority"
as for philly specifically the south philly hebrew team of the 20 and 30's were an incredibly beloved team in the city and a source of huge jewish pride...they eventually became the warriors
also harvey pollack
and jews only play 2 team sports - baseball and basketball. everything else is too physical and our mothers wont let us play.
that old hebrew team would be more fun to watch right now.
Gerald Wallace and "draft considerations" from the Warriors are the newest Sixers for Jason Thompson
tank III
wallace is going to be cut. it was reported, maybe even said by the sixers, that they were keeping thompson and landry. but nope. why keep an nba player when there are 10 day contracts to give out to some unathletic doofus that belongs in the d league.
finish it off for me, guys. the sixers are a _____ (the word begins with j and ends with -oke. its joke. the word is joke).
Quote from: MDS on July 31, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
tank III
wallace is going to be cut. it was reported, maybe even said by the sixers, that they were keeping thompson and landry. but nope. why keep an nba player when there are 10 day contracts to give out to some unathletic doofus that belongs in the d league.
finish it off for me, guys. the sixers are a _____ (the word begins with j and ends with -oke. its joke. the word is joke).
QuoteJake Fischer @JakeLFischer 17m17 minutes ago
I've consistently heard, whether it's through trade, waive or buyout, it's highly likely Carl Landry is not a Sixer come training camp, too.
why the hell would you keep those two bums when you want lose
exactly. why would you want to win?
when you are years away from being competitive you def don't wanna win
sixers phillies flyers all in the same boat....none should try and win next year...hinkie just better at it than the other two teams....although sexy hexy is very hinkie like in his process
phillies have stopped trying to win for 1/2 a season and they are already closer than the sixers are
completely different sport but you don't know the nba do I won't hold the ignorance against you
hey tho....go Phillies the rest of the year...please win as many games as possible!
well i would prefer they got the 1 but the baseball draft isnt a predicated on that as the exciting lotto balls process is
anyway the whole being horrible forever until you draft the next lebron james thing sounds like a ton of fun. worked out great for golden state.
the whole sucking until you are good is a part of sports...hinkie Magic has just turned can it on its head cause of the nba structure
Toronto blue jays have not made the playoffs since 1993...j's stros were bad for how long?
baseball is a different animal because you dont need a superduber star to win....you just need a collection of good players. though it appears the astros happen to have a next level player in correa.
so the tanking thing the astros did was more calculated than the sixers, who are just trying to collect as many ping pong balls as possible so they have the highest possible probability of landing the top pick and therefore drafting the next big thing. theres no guarantee theyll actually get the pick, let alone the guy. in baseball if you collect good draft picks for 3-4 years you and i could pull names out of a hat and draft some good players.
yeah we both agree...difference is one of loves the sixers and one of us hates them
Mds is walking down the road and comes to the fork...one way leads to Hinkie and the Sixers and the other leads to a gaggle of republicans...which way does he go?
I say with Rush and Hannity
agreed....not cause he loves any pubs cept his dad but because he truly hates the sixers more than anything
i do?
maybe not more than anything but you are a pasty white soccer baseball guy who can't stomach the nba
i like soccer and baseball but i definitely dont dislike the nba.....im just not a hinkie bot
my bad you could care less if the nba folded tomorrow....you don't hate it
try again
https://i.imgur.com/3bPa2IU.webm
got a barkley jersey in the mail today.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Philadelphia-Basketball-1-Michael-Carter-Williams-Jersey-6-Julius-Erving-11-Jrue-Holiday-12-Evan-Turner/1304397_1940582022.html
was very skeptical but it's really solid quality. adidas hardcourt classics tags. either stolen or just a very solid knock off.
ordered an XL because Asian gear always runs small but it's actually big on me. gonna order one or two more in L because they are only $19 each.
not bad. wouldnt mind a doc jersey.
i'm too old to wear b-ball jerseys. you guys probably are too.
i'll wear my #31 wilbert jersey to my fantasy football draft...but that's about the only time, unless i'm going to a game.
not all of us have skin dangling, liver spoted, guns like you. :paranoid
that said i would frame mine and hang it up.
hah!
yeah, framing is the way to go.
Quote from: hunt on August 07, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
i'm too old to wear b-ball jerseys. you guys probably are too.
i'll wear my #31 wilbert jersey to my fantasy football draft...but that's about the only time, unless i'm going to a game.
mds will disapprove of this worship of wearing a jersery
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2015, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 07, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
i'm too old to wear b-ball jerseys. you guys probably are too.
i'll wear my #31 wilbert jersey to my fantasy football draft...but that's about the only time, unless i'm going to a game.
mds will disapprove of this worship of wearing a jersery
don't care.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2015, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 07, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
i'm too old to wear b-ball jerseys. you guys probably are too.
i'll wear my #31 wilbert jersey to my fantasy football draft...but that's about the only time, unless i'm going to a game.
mds will disapprove of this worship of wearing a jersery
wait, the same guy that worships radio hosts at an unhealthy level ?
Quote from: hunt on August 07, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2015, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: hunt on August 07, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
i'm too old to wear b-ball jerseys. you guys probably are too.
i'll wear my #31 wilbert jersey to my fantasy football draft...but that's about the only time, unless i'm going to a game.
mds will disapprove of this worship of wearing a jersery
don't care.
You mean you don't hang on every word that Todd types?
in the least you should all be waiting for my phillies breakdowns
Quote from: MDS on August 07, 2015, 01:11:02 PM
in the least you should all be waiting for my phillies breakdowns
The Phillies can do their own breakdowns. Just look at Buchanan.
sixers at new orleans roadie feb 19.....lock n load
odds nn and ja will be playing that game
not as good odds as me being at it
Smoothie King Center here I come
A good excuse for me to experience NO without my HR director and coworkers like I did in November. Couldn't do shtein.
Havas you book hotel yet? We stayed right by the arena and it's a solid place. I think it was a Hilton but I can double check
Is that during Mardi Gras?
i would never stay by the arena...garbage area with nothing to do...not sure where ill stay....just gonna canvas the good neighborhoods and see what the best deal is...probably do priceline
mardi gras is the 9th i think
malik took a front office job with the hawks :'( :boo
ugh. terrible news. was hoping he stuck around for the championship run.
not joking about the terrible news part though. he became so good.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 13, 2015, 07:11:58 AM
i would never stay by the arena...garbage area with nothing to do...not sure where ill stay....just gonna canvas the good neighborhoods and see what the best deal is...probably do priceline
mardi gras is the 9th i think
Hyatt Regency is the place and it was a good area - we were close to the French Quarter.
But I just looked and they want $279 per night for a king...full pre-payment...non-refundable...no date changes
February in NO is serious bidness
http://musashifoods.com/order/sauce-castillo
http://www.sportando.com/m/en/usa/nba/173713/dario-saric-this-year-it-s-time-for-efes-then-it-s-time-for-america.html
QuotePhiladelphia 76ers owner Joshua Harris has pledged to donate $3.5 million to the Philadelphia Police Athletic League, the largest gift ever recorded by the nonprofit youth group.
He shoulda donated a bass boat
Chocolate Thunder died today
lol easy creeps up to post some twitter news. god i love him.
anyway. this exchange cracked me up.
Quote[8/27/2015 2:54 PM] me (US-KOP):
think how trying it is to write 3 more pages in the span of 3 working days
cut me a break
[8/27/2015 2:54 PM] her (US-KOP):
lol you're ridiculous
[8/27/2015 2:54 PM] me (US-KOP):
CHOCOLATE THUNDER IS DEAD
[8/27/2015 2:54 PM] her (US-KOP):
who?
is that a race horse?
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for some reason i thought he was way older than 58. and why would he choose to live in allentown.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 28, 2015, 08:10:50 AM
for some reason i thought he was way older than 58. and why would he choose to live in allentown.
He's lookin for the Pennsylvania we never found
Quote from: phattymatty on August 28, 2015, 08:10:50 AM
for some reason i thought he was way older than 58. and why would he choose to live in allentown.
closer to reading airport wings
Quote from: SD on August 28, 2015, 10:00:09 AM
He's lookin for the Pennsylvania we never found
lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 28, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
closer to reading airport wings
lol
I straight-up puked within 2 seconds of eating one of those wings once, just from the heat. That place can't still be around.
Wojo saying Kendall Marshall is coming in on a multi year deal
Oh no...Eskin says Moses Malone died last night
in the last 12 months moses dd and caldwell jones have all died
holy shtein
Someone please check up on Dr. J.
Damn, wtf is going on.
Tall people die sooner than fat micks.
Boom.
RIP Moses.
Quote from: Rome on September 13, 2015, 11:54:13 AM
Tall people die sooner than fat micks.
Boom.
RIP Moses.
shtein.
Quote from: Rome on September 13, 2015, 11:54:13 AM
Tall people die sooner than fat micks.
Boom.
RIP Moses.
speaking of, how old are you again ?
Saw Joel at the Linc yesterday. He was getting pushed around in a wheelchair and had his hands on his face like he was literally crying. True story.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPX33kbVAAM4wrp.jpg)
Yes, Yes, NO
https://instagram.com/p/7-hqb-ynXj/
http://youtu.be/5U3VcB0_Rws
that was good
exactly one week.
any of you guys have nba league pass or anything like that to watch the sixers' games? i want to drop cable but i'd lose csn philly & my sixers.
i always get league pass but i get it thru my cable so i can watch on a big screen...pretty sure they have a cheaper version that you can get for a computer
i'm reading up on league pass but it says locally broadcast games are blacked out. based on my zip, sixers & knicks would be blacked out.
damn local cable co has me by the balls.
oh yeah forgot about the blackouts
yeah, i'm farged. i saw something about setting up vpn to get around the blackouts but idk of that works.
check out ballstreams.com.
i haven't had cable in years but use this for my bball fix. like $80 for the entire year. HD streams (assuming you have fast internet), can pick either home or away broadcasts and they are all stored immediately afterward for on demand. i love it. hook my laptop up to the tv through HDMI and it looks just as good as normal cable.
use my referral, i think i get a few bucks.
http://www.ballstreams.com/ref/14397
never heard of that but i'll check it out. thanks.
so all games are on live? i need my nerlens fix real time.
i dont know why youre so eager to watch a team that isnt trying, but all you need is a vpn ($5 a month) and a comcast log in and you can watch them jawns on csnphilly.com
i used a vpn to watch the phils and it worked very well.
o/u's
the boys 21.5
wolves 25.5
blazers 26.5
nuggets 26.5
nets 28.5
lakers 29.5
Wanna lose another hundo this season, Todd?
of that list of terrible teams, i'd only take the wolves over the sixers.
nik staukus is an incredible player and he knows it...
QuoteAs good of a shooter as I am, I feel like I'm a better playmaker
Quote from: MDS on September 29, 2015, 10:24:47 AM
i dont know why youre so eager to watch a team that isnt trying, but all you need is a vpn ($5 a month) and a comcast log in and you can watch them jawns on csnphilly.com
i used a vpn to watch the phils and it worked very well.
don't you have a soccer team to follow ? oh wait ....