i probably should be raped for this but all game i could only think about cole saying last year that patterson and bunk were the best dt tandem in the nfl
farg the media and all you MA's for starting the riley cooper bandwagon....other than his flowing locks his only positive attribute was his hands.....sometimes this place reminds me of the other CF
has a team in the history of football ever had more 3rd and 15+ situations than today
ive led his hate wagon but trevor laws played a farging game today
anyone notice how much confidence vick gained in mack after the td reception....it was like "oh shtein i have another wr?"
darryl tapp....good signing.....no
kevin who?
i precicted an eagle rout but i also like everyone else didnt take into account that javid best was ready to bust out.....when watching him today i couldnt help but see brian westbrook
shady in small space is special....hitting holes not so much
ellis hobbs is a prick....i cant recall who caught the KO short but his drama queen act after the play was over was pathetic....him and assante are cousins and its no surprise that hoodie bill got rid of them both
add on.....
When Laws was in on that sack, I wrote "game over" in my notebook a la TMQ.
Celek has disappeared.
I like turtles.
I noticed the Hobbs thing too.
But in fairness, it was Mike Bell. And we know Mike Bell does nothing but fall the farg down as soon as he touches the ball.
theres no fairness.....ellis hobbs is a fargface
he was doing jigs on incomplete passes down 17-7
a team with him and assante as their corners will never win in this league
Clay Harbor - fallen out of favor? Deactivated.
Teo3rdroundpickheim - hyped but nonexistent since camp started
Brandon Graham at DT infuriating
clay harbor is a 4th round pick that probably should have gone in the 7th....how the farg does someone like that fall out of favor...he was never in favor cept for the fans who had him as the new traning camp hank baskett
teo was a POS in college no one expected him to contribute in the league
Mike Bell blows. He has terrible football instincts
Ernie Sims was horrid today. I'm all for giving the guy a chance but against your former team you should be holdin down shop.
The O-line is a disgrace. I will say as far as run blocking goes they did a good job today. To the Lions credit they do have a decent D-line
Owen Schmitt looked good. He's no Leonard Weaver but I thought he PP'd well, did well as a lead blocker, and even caught a few passes
Omar Gaither is the slowest LB in the history of the NFL
they did their best but they are the bad news bears of offensive lines
pretty much every single run shady had was a delay off the threat of a vick run or play action....it wasnt like those clowns were mashin
id be so mad if i was a detroit fan at how many time their front four got thrown off on a shotgun delay
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2010, 10:20:59 PM
clay harbor is a 4th round pick that probably should have gone in the 7th....how the farg does someone like that fall out of favor...he was never in favor cept for the fans who had him as the new traning camp hank baskett
teo was a POS in college no one expected him to contribute in the league
And he was the team's #2 TE who was deactivated for a guy they picked up a week ago.
Teo was a 3rd round pick and that clown McDermott hyped him all summer
they both stink...what more do you want to know...one guy made the team because his competitions knee wouldnt react to the die hard battery hooked up to it...and the other guy probably shoulnt have been drafted at all much less 3rd round
and Omar Gaither is garbage.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2010, 10:34:49 PM
pretty much every single run shady had was a delay off the threat of a vick run or play action....it wasnt like those clowns were mashin
id be so mad if i was a detroit fan at how many time their front four got thrown off on a shotgun delay
He had some holes between the tackles
I know he broke one shortly after but did they ever show the hold on the 35 yard run play that got called back? Detroits LBs are almost as bad as the Birds.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2010, 10:36:41 PM
they both stink...what more do you want to know...one guy made the team because his competitions knee wouldnt react to the die hard battery hooked up to it...and the other guy probably shoulnt have been drafted at all much less 3rd round
Thats all fine and well.
But they're supposed to contribute. We have HOWIE to thank for drafting them, so get their asses on the field. And maybe quit shifting Graham to DT so damn much.
Let him ball at end.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 19, 2010, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2010, 10:20:59 PM
clay harbor is a 4th round pick that probably should have gone in the 7th....how the farg does someone like that fall out of favor...he was never in favor cept for the fans who had him as the new traning camp hank baskett
teo was a POS in college no one expected him to contribute in the league
And he was the team's #2 TE who was deactivated for a guy they picked up a week ago.
Teo was a 3rd round pick and that clown McDermott hyped him all summer
how can you hype Teo--he had one "Rudy" play on tape that catapulted him to a 3rd round pick, not to mention he was on his back throwing a tennis ball against a wall during the draft
mcdermott's on crack
Sometimes when I feel like killing someone, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I'll go over to the persons house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A jack-o-lantern with a knife stuck in the side of it's head with a note that says "You." After that I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done
damn
Run defense how do they work?
Also the Eagles will never have talented LBs :(
Nate Allen looks good
so how quickly does kolb lose this team during the jaguars game? after 1 series? 1 quarter?
pregame warmup
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 19, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Run defense how do they work?
Also the Eagles will never have talented LBs :(
Well the late 70's and early 80's with Bergey, LeMaster, Bunting and Robinson were pretty good. I had to really reach. Shout out to Joyner and Evans.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 20, 2010, 12:02:33 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 19, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Run defense how do they work?
Also the Eagles will never have talented LBs :(
Well the late 70's and early 80's with Bergey, LeMaster, Bunting and Robinson were pretty good. I had to really reach. Shout out to Joyner and Evans.
Well I should have clarified: Under this regime and philosophy over talent mentality.
Quote from: SD on September 19, 2010, 10:41:29 PM
Sometimes when I feel like killing someone, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I'll go over to the persons house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A jack-o-lantern with a knife stuck in the side of it's head with a note that says "You." After that I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done
:paranoid
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 20, 2010, 12:09:24 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 20, 2010, 12:02:33 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 19, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Run defense how do they work?
Also the Eagles will never have talented LBs :(
Well the late 70's and early 80's with Bergey, LeMaster, Bunting and Robinson were pretty good. I had to really reach. Shout out to Joyner and Evans.
No worries, I'm just old.
Well I should have clarified: Under this regime and philosophy over talent mentality.
Despite the room to operate and the holes to run through, McCoy looks a lot stronger and more elusive than last season. He was breaking tackles, cutting on a dime smoothly, and kept his balance in traffic. He looks explosive and much improved.
Patterson not having a great season so far, but it is only two games.
We needed two OLBs going into the offseason and we still need two now.
Nate Allen has good hands and good ball skills. Remember all those dropped INTs last year?
I refuse to buy into Vick being an improved passer until he does it over the long haul. He had great games in Atlanta, and then next week he'd be10/25 with 120 yards and 2 INTs. But he did look good and made some crazy throws. He has a ton of talent, there is no denying it.
Barnes gets good pressure off the edge when used.
I miss the kelly green unis already.
Quote from: KDS on September 19, 2010, 11:14:01 PM
so how quickly does kolb lose this team during the jaguars game? after 1 series? 1 quarter?
The offensive line clearly hates him already.
Didn't get to watch the game, but Shady must have blew it up big time. Got me a load of fantasy points. Maclin had some good stats too. Did Vick look like he might have shaken' off some rust from the first game?
Quote from: King Cole on September 20, 2010, 01:50:10 AM
Barnes gets good pressure off the edge when used.
from domo's game review...
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After Graham went out with a shoulder injury early in the fourth quarter, the Eagles had trouble getting pressure on Shaun Hill, who completed 10 of 12 passes during two fourth-quarter scoring drives. Antwan Barnes contributed little at left end.
Barnes has done nothing other than injure his hand
Give Tapp or Daniel "motor never stops" TeONeshreraraim a chance to do nothing, then.
Why is Riley Cooper on the hands team? Cut him
McCoy looked good
Words can not express how much I hate Michael Vick and the FO for not releasing him before this season. He had some good throws, but probably just as many bad decisions. If the Lions' DBs didn't have hands like Coopers, the Lions very well may have won the game...at least one Eagles score wouldn't have happened.
Stewart Bradley must be essential to the Eagles Run D
Vick had a pretty good game and honestly I didn't think he made decisions any worse than McNabb typically did during his tenure. The accuracy on the longer passes was worse than what you get with McNabb, but that's not a new revelation about Vick. I do agree that some of those poorly executed tosses could have very easily been picks. I didn't feel like his mistakes were in the mental part of the game though (other than spiking the ball out of anger).
The day could have been pretty scary without a QB that mobile. Vick got sacked enough as it was.
The Eagles clearly have one of the best backup QBs in the game right now, and one that is quite possibly better than their starting quarterback (at least at this point in Kolb's career). On paper it was one of the better games in Vick's career, too. I don't come away from this game thinking of Vick as a major weakness in the team.
yeah of all the times to complain about michael vick now is the last time to ever do it....and wait for cobb to suck it up this week...
Anytime I feel about complaining about Vick is the exact right time to ever do it.
I thought this season was to validate Kolb's ability....might have well not traded McNabb to a divisional rival
i agree it should be about cobb...but thats not vicks fault...hes just playing when asked too...and damn if he isnt exciting and playing well...blame the team for cobb not playing not vick
and how could you not rather watch vick than mcnabb...jesus
Other than Kolb, I'd rather watch the better QB. McNabb has been and still is a better QB than Vick
That's not saying much.
if its even true at this point
Young, athletic McNabb was definitely the superior QB, despite Vick being faster and overall more athletic.
McNabb now is still probably better throwing wise, but he's too old and slow to survive behind this line. He'd still do a better job than Kolb, but that's not saying much either.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2010, 07:41:45 PM
if its even true at this point
It's true. As dumb as McNabb is, he can still read a defense (that's not a 3-4)
I wish I believed it even from a 4-3 standpoint
the guy had to be held at gunpoint to make an audible or call out blitz schemes at the line of scrimmage during a game. he was completely brainwashed that reid was calling the correct play every time
hes to much of a bitch and doesnt have it inside of himself to take charge...thus no audibles....horrendous two minute offense...ect...
reid is hardly faultless but with a game coach like andy donovan was just about the worst possible persona he could have ever had at qb
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2010, 07:32:02 AM
hes to much of a bitch and doesnt have it inside of himself to take charge...thus no audibles....horrendous two minute offense...ect...
reid is hardly faultless but with a game coach like andy donovan was just about the worst possible persona he could have ever had at qb
Favre would be hilarious working with Reid. No way he follows some of the dumbass calls Reid makes.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 23, 2010, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2010, 07:32:02 AM
hes to much of a bitch and doesnt have it inside of himself to take charge...thus no audibles....horrendous two minute offense...ect...
reid is hardly faultless but with a game coach like andy donovan was just about the worst possible persona he could have ever had at qb
Favre would be hilarious working with Reid. No way he follows some of the dumbass calls Reid makes.
Didn't Childress get butt hurt last year after Favre audibled a few plays?
Yeah. He would audible out of running plays. He also calls him Brad.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 23, 2010, 11:06:43 AMHe also calls him Brad.
I did not think it possible, but lo and behold: my general opinion of Favre has just improved a smidge.
I think when Favre did that is when Chilly tried to bench him and Favre wouldn't come out of the game. Then later Chilly said to the media everything is cool, although he was still gurgling a bit on Brettjuice when he said it.
ok stop calling him chilly
surprisedyouareinfavoroffusingmorelettersthanabsolutelynecessary
lellers indeed
happy now
Sadly, no.
I'm surprised.
chilly out
speaking of it got a bit chilly after the thunderstorms last night.
Stewart Bradley was awful and he's bordering on being overrated. Has he ever made a big play? He has hands of stone and could've changed the game by catching that pick.
The defense's tackling overall is farging pathetic.
Quinten Mikell is atrocious and should be benched, but they have absolutely nobody to replace him. But that Dawkins move was a genius one huh?
Jason Peters needs to get off the team, he can follow Mikell on the bum train out.
Fire Andy Reid.
Mike Bell has had one run over two yards this season. He's swell.
Bell had 654 rushing yards last year. This year, he's on track for 80.
The defense is terrible.
There was something to Sheldon saying that no one bought into Boy Wonder's farging scheme.
Why? Because it farging blows.
But buying in or not - these fargs can't even tackle or stuff the run when they know its coming.
can we just admit this team isnt good, let kolb play out there and be done with?
you ready yet people.
When Kolb gets hurt due to the bad offensive line, his trade value goes out the window. I say we trade Kolb and then start Kafka until Vick gets back. Kafka is awesome.
the 10000 problems with this team aside, there is one silver lining:
it feels so good to be done with the donovan mcnabb era.
One of my thoughts after this game was how long will we suffer under the yoke of Andy Reid and his horrendous on field decisions? At the end of the first half, after having a five minute official time out to get a plan together, he calls a timeout! Then, you look at him on the sidelines and he looks like he's completely lost, only to have his team go on the field and get a delay of game penalty after having called timeout!!
WHAT THE FARG!!
As long as he's been coaching, he can't get it done any better than that?? C'MON!!
Really don't get the hate for the defense. They locked shtein down after the 1st quarter. Can't really complain about a white linebacker missing a pick when a black WR misses the winning touchdown.
But seriously, how bad was the wind in the second half? McNabb had two completions, of 5 and 8 yards. Kolb obviously seemed downright afraid to throw downfield. Just curious.
I was about 10 rows off of the field...it wasnt that bad at all
mcnabb was being his usual self just trying not to make mistakes, and kolb followed suit so he wouldnt get booed out of philadelphia. I felt worse for jackson and maclin that had to keep running those deep routes the whole second half and not get shtein thrown to them. even at one point, jackson came back to the bench after a 3 and out and threw his helmet against the bench. just a hunch...I dont think mr. jackson is a very good supporter of kolb.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 04, 2010, 06:36:34 AM
Really don't get the hate for the defense. They locked shtein down after the 1st quarter. Can't really complain about a white linebacker missing a pick when a black WR misses the winning touchdown.
Well they couldn't make a stop at the end of the game which would have gave the offense the ball with more time and a timeout. It seems like ever since the Saints wildcard game they haven't been able to stop a team when they need to most in a close game.
This defense is one of the worst at tackling that I can remember.
The offense had plenty of chances. 17 points should not have been enough for the skins to win.
kolb never even attempted anything over ten yards except for one to desean and the last play.
avant should have made that catch.
quinten mikell sucks icehole.
shady looked amazing. best i've ever seen him. breaking ankles with his cuts.
I don't disagree, but good defenses make stops when they need to. This defense isn't very good. Like the rest of the team mediocre.
On that pass to Desean that was overthrown they only showed one angle on the replay. It looked like the guy at the line may have gotten a finger tip on it. Anybody else see that? Also it looked like if Desean would have dove he could have had a chance. Yes/No? Desean btw has been making a lot of mental errors this year. If it wasn't for a defensive holding they may not have gotten a first down at the end of the game.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 04, 2010, 10:29:33 AMavant should have made that catch.
shady looked amazing. best i've ever seen him. breaking ankles with his cuts.
yes, he should have had that catch...but he gets a pass because he's so money the rest of the time, and I'm not getting down on him failing to bail the team out on a last ditch miracle catch.
and yeah, shady looks good. I'm not worried about RB so long as he's healthy. he may not become a rock star, but he's a pro football rb no doubt.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 04, 2010, 10:35:50 AM
he gets a pass because he's so money the rest of the time
That's not how it works.
Not when you're the superstar, agreed.
When you're the possession WR being asked to save the day after your coach shat the bed all day long, different story.
Where have these great linebackers been all year? I thought this D had speed? How did the Redksins gash us on the edges so bad? Or was it just bad tackling?
Quote from: Diomedes on October 04, 2010, 10:39:50 AM
Not when you're the superstar, agreed.
When you're the possession WR being asked to save the day after your coach shat the bed all day long, different story.
Exactly. His only job is to catch everything that touches his hands.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 04, 2010, 10:35:50 AM
and yeah, shady looks good. I'm not worried about RB so long as he's healthy. he may not become a rock star, but he's a pro football rb no doubt.
Broken rib.
Quote9.
How windy was the Linc? Gusts were so strong inside the stadium that the Eagles activated Dorothy for the contest. Said Reid about Dorothy: "She's got a big motor."
The longest any completed pass traveled in the air in the 2nd half was probably 10-15 yards. I still think/hope that was a big factor in Kolb's relentless checkdowns.
I'm still simmering over how they came out so flat and just got their asses handed to them early on and how the taterskins seemed to want to deliver the hits and the Eagles did not.
I am sick of them coming out a stinking up the damn joint on defense. Man up, Opie McDermott.
wait so the defense has to man up, but its on the 5'5, 150 lb. defensive coordinator to do that?
his poor coaching aside, did it ever cross your mind that they got beat down because they simply arent very good?
the thing that sucks the most is that even when the offense was lacking skill players, or mcnabb was going through his annual 2-3 game slump, and reid was calling 70%+ pass plays, the defense was solid. the defense always used to be solid. it can't even be counted on anymore.
and btw how bad does mickell look now that dawkins does not play next to him?
it was a totally winnable game, bottom line. players came up small and coaches came up stupid in big moments.
Here are my thoughts:
- Sometimes I look at my nerd friends who don't care about sports and I think that they've got the right idea. Why the farg do I put myself through this shtein every single year for two teams (Eagles Flyers) that do nothing but break my heart and smash my faith? Is it really worth it? Of course, it doesn't matter if it's worth it because I've obsessed about Philly teams since I was a goddamned infant and there's no chance of it ever going away, but I do wonder what it would be like to not have this bullshtein hanging over me from September to June every year.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 04, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
Here are my thoughts:
- Sometimes I look at my nerd friends who don't care about sports and I think that they've got the right idea. Why the farg do I put myself through this shtein every single year for two teams (Eagles Flyers) that do nothing but break my heart and smash my faith? Is it really worth it? Of course, it doesn't matter if it's worth it because I've obsessed about Philly teams since I was a goddamned infant and there's no chance of it ever going away, but I do wonder what it would be like to not have this bullshtein hanging over me from September to June every year.
I've thought this for some time. From an emotional perspective it's a set up to fail and it's stupid, really. The highs of winning usually aren't as great as the lows of losing. Success and a happy outcome only comes from winning a championship, which is relatively rare, especially for Philly fans. Otherwise it ends in dismal failure. Some of this can be mitigated if you have a right to lower hopes and expectations - like if you're a Lions fan and they go 8-8 and you feel a kind of false good, like jacking off to a clip of your favorite actress and it seemed oddly real and satisfying for a few moments. But since we as a culture and race are retarded, we don't recognize anything especially silly about all this. On the other hand, without sports, we all wouldn't know each other. :( Go Eagles!
farging Eagles
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 04, 2010, 04:11:18 PM
it was a totally winnable game, bottom line. players came up small and coaches came up stupid in big moments.
The Andy Reid era in a nutshell.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 04, 2010, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 04, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
Here are my thoughts:
- Sometimes I look at my nerd friends who don't care about sports and I think that they've got the right idea. Why the farg do I put myself through this shtein every single year for two teams (Eagles Flyers) that do nothing but break my heart and smash my faith? Is it really worth it? Of course, it doesn't matter if it's worth it because I've obsessed about Philly teams since I was a goddamned infant and there's no chance of it ever going away, but I do wonder what it would be like to not have this bullshtein hanging over me from September to June every year.
I've thought this for some time. From an emotional perspective it's a set up to fail and it's stupid, really. The highs of winning usually aren't as great as the lows of losing. Success and a happy outcome only comes from winning a championship, which is relatively rare, especially for Philly fans. Otherwise it ends in dismal failure. Some of this can be mitigated if you have a right to lower hopes and expectations - like if you're a Lions fan and they go 8-8 and you feel a kind of false good, like jacking off to a clip of your favorite actress and it seemed oddly real and satisfying for a few moments. But since we as a culture and race are retarded, we don't recognize anything especially silly about all this. On the other hand, without sports, we all wouldn't know each other. :( Go Eagles!
Sounds like you guys would be better off going to church on Sundays. :evil
I can't imagine a feeling more glorious than watching one of my teams win a championship especially considering how infrequent those wins have been in my life.
When the Phillies won two years ago it literally changed my perspective on sports. I'm still the same bitter and cynical prick I was before they won, but in that facet of my life, it was like a gigantic boulder was lifted from my shoulders.
I know it sounds pathetic and it probably is but the teams I cheer for are like family to me and when they win it's farging incredible.
Quote from: shorebird on October 04, 2010, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 04, 2010, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 04, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
Here are my thoughts:
- Sometimes I look at my nerd friends who don't care about sports and I think that they've got the right idea. Why the farg do I put myself through this shtein every single year for two teams (Eagles Flyers) that do nothing but break my heart and smash my faith? Is it really worth it? Of course, it doesn't matter if it's worth it because I've obsessed about Philly teams since I was a goddamned infant and there's no chance of it ever going away, but I do wonder what it would be like to not have this bullshtein hanging over me from September to June every year.
I've thought this for some time. From an emotional perspective it's a set up to fail and it's stupid, really. The highs of winning usually aren't as great as the lows of losing. Success and a happy outcome only comes from winning a championship, which is relatively rare, especially for Philly fans. Otherwise it ends in dismal failure. Some of this can be mitigated if you have a right to lower hopes and expectations - like if you're a Lions fan and they go 8-8 and you feel a kind of false good, like jacking off to a clip of your favorite actress and it seemed oddly real and satisfying for a few moments. But since we as a culture and race are retarded, we don't recognize anything especially silly about all this. On the other hand, without sports, we all wouldn't know each other. :( Go Eagles!
Sounds like you guys would be better off going to church on Sundays. :evil
Maybe then god would stop smiting my teams.
Betting against my team is helping me detach emotionally. Becoming a father helped too. I still care too much.
Some thoughts:
If you look at the Eagles roster, other than offensive skilled positions, the Eagles don't have a lot proven talent on the roster. The DTs suck, the LBs suck, Nate Allen looks good but Mikell sucks, Asante gets INTs but can't tackle, Hobbs is mediocre, the offensive line sucks, we don't have another TE who can play a lick besides Celek, and we have no depth across most of the roster.
If you look at the supposed best teams in the NFL and see how overall they have way more talent than the Eagles at most positions, it kind of makes me sick that an accountant is the GM.
Quote from: Rome on October 04, 2010, 05:19:25 PM
I can't imagine a feeling more glorious than watching one of my teams win a championship especially considering how infrequent those wins have been in my life.
When the Phillies won two years ago it literally changed my perspective on sports. I'm still the same bitter and cynical prick I was before they won, but in that facet of my life, it was like a gigantic boulder was lifted from my shoulders.
I know it sounds pathetic and it probably is but the teams I cheer for are like family to me and when they win it's farging incredible.
Pretty much. I was 8.5 months pregnant and sat in front of my TV in tears after Lidge threw that strike. And yes, MURP and our daughter laughed at me. I couldn't contain my emotions. I'm still bitter and cynical....but I think that World Series was amazing. It makes me look back at ALL of those years of waiting and think it might have just been worth it. You can't appreciate it like we did if you're a Yankees fan who won almost every farging year in the 90s. How do you appreciate it when it becomes a yearly event? I still remember like 2 weeks later hearing "We Are the Champions" on the radio and thinking, "Holy shtein....we really ARE!" :-D
Quote from: rjs246 on October 04, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
Here are my thoughts:
- Sometimes I look at my nerd friends who don't care about sports and I think that they've got the right idea. Why the farg do I put myself through this shtein every single year for two teams (Eagles Flyers) that do nothing but break my heart and smash my faith? Is it really worth it? Of course, it doesn't matter if it's worth it because I've obsessed about Philly teams since I was a goddamned infant and there's no chance of it ever going away, but I do wonder what it would be like to not have this bullshtein hanging over me from September to June every year.
I really felt like that after the 08-09 season. After the loss to the Cards. I stayed away from everything Eagles related the whole off season. I hate what it puts me through. I hate that it's what I have to rely on as my distraction from work, school, fiancée, or whatever else pisses me off in life. Every Sept I am back with a sense of optimism that this might be IT.
I wish I was into baseball so I could join in on the Phillies fun.
Why does Avant fall after every catch? At first I thought it was McNabb throwing at his feet or over his head but yesterday Kolb threw him a couple of passes right on the #, he catches it, but he falls right down.
Phillies 08 was the best sports event for an entire of generation of Philly area people who had lived for 20-25 years and had never seen, let alone been alive for, a Philly sports championship. No one I knew, knew how to react other than running down broad street screaming. It was incredible.
I really, REALLY don't want to wait that long for the next time I get to feel that again...but if I do, I know it'll be amazing, and worth the wait.
If the Eagles ever win a SB, I'm relatively sure I'll cry. I love the Phillies and Flyers, but not like the Eagles. Outside of a few personal accomplishments like kids, marriage, etc...I can't imagine there being a happier day in my life then the day the Eagles finally win the Super Bowl. Yes, it's sad and pathetic that sports have that much of an effect on any of our lives, but who gives a farg. Like Romey said, when you spend your entire life cheering for a team, it starts to feel like family. And as corny as it is, it tends to bring your real friends and family together too. Even if it is in a rape basement.
oh for petes sake - why the suprise...when haven't the eagles blown the "big" moments? From plunkett to fogbowl to closing of the vet to the SB to every motherfarging game when its all on the farging line or the whole nation is watching?? farg, philadelphins wouldn't trust their own mother with even the valet key to the car but routinely get heart and soul ripped out time and again because every sunday they entrust their emotional well being a fat Mormon slob who cant tell time and a front office populated by fantasy league amateurs??
seriously of all demographic oddities of a population thats the one farging piece that makes no sense. and if past is motherfarging prologue then we get ready for another eight years of wandering in the farging wilderness before getting hopes up again. shtein GF will have had this site near 20 years by then...
farging vick or kobb - right now agonizing either one is rearranging deck chairs on the farging titanic as long as fat-boy and green-eyshade are running things.
JackStraw....you are the man.
Post of the era.
frankly "white power" on the other cf was a little more on point about peyton hillis...but i suppose this will do
what is that URL? I wanna read
I'm drunk
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2010, 09:42:48 PM
frankly "white power" on the other cf was a little more on point about peyton hillis...but i suppose this will do
:-D
And agree with PG.....for once ;) about JackStraw's post.
Quote from: JackStraw on October 04, 2010, 09:25:04 PM
oh for petes sake - why the suprise...when haven't the eagles blown the "big" moments? From plunkett to fogbowl to closing of the vet to the SB to every motherfarging game when its all on the farging line or the whole nation is watching?? farg, philadelphins wouldn't trust their own mother with even the valet key to the car but routinely get heart and soul ripped out time and again because every sunday they entrust their emotional well being a fat Mormon slob who cant tell time and a front office populated by fantasy league amateurs??
seriously of all demographic oddities of a population thats the one farging piece that makes no sense. and if past is motherfarging prologue then we get ready for another eight years of wandering in the farging wilderness before getting hopes up again. shtein GF will have had this site near 20 years by then...
farging vick or kobb - right now agonizing either one is rearranging deck chairs on the farging titanic as long as fat-boy and green-eyshade are running things.
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Quote from: Eagaholic on October 04, 2010, 04:11:18 PM
it was a totally winnable game, bottom line. players came up small and coaches came up stupid in big moments.
and reid's gonna work to get better at that and put the players in better positions to win.
quinton mikell was fantastic on gonzalez yesterday...yeah he had the two td's but he blanketed him the entire game up and down the field...it was interesting to see how much mcdermott had him on the line of scrimmage...it was at least 75% of the time...it showed a ton of faith in nate allen as he was left alone out in centerfield
good cobb - he made all the throws yesterday including some he has yet to unleash...if the td pass to macklin (the one in the south end zone) didn alleviate anyones arm strength concerns nothing will...he also had a couple deep outs...one to macklin in particular showed that he def has the zip....these are important throws because they will show up on opponents film and make them respect all of the field....dook will never have the zip of a mcnabb farve or even peyton but he clearly has the arm to win in this league (not that it wasnt obvious before)
bad cobb - single handedly almost got pimp killed....and it wasnt so much the throw but how long he took to make it...you cant wait that long then under pressure try to connect on a crossing route...throw it out of bounds take the sack or hell throw it as deep as you can up for grabs
bradley had a nice comeback game
the play action and misdirection was wonderful yesterday and greatly helped the oline...rip andy when he does awful (which is often)....but credit him yesterday for a great game plan
trevor laws is becoming a good nfl player...he will never be anything special but hes had a good year and has probably made more plays than bunkley and patterson combined
eagles are an excellent +7 in turnover ratio which has cancelled out the hideousness of the oline
im not saying the eagles are going to the playoffs yet because their last nine games are brutal but at the same time the nfc sucks so bad...its probably the worst its ever been...and its had some really down years lately
Kolb played fantastic and showed some very nice accuracy, but my god I dont think he was pressured once all game. The play by the o-line yesterday was a mirage until real pressure is brought. The Falcons d-coordinator farged this game up, so good for them.
Not to mention, I'm not too sure why the Falcons would play a cover 2 all game like that, dropping those LB's, with not an ounce of blitzing. You would think after Kolb was shredding them over the top that you might want to switch it up a bit. Very easy adjustment for the eagles coaches there to keep running those same routes, so good recognition
This wasnt that surprising of a win because Matt Ryan never lights anyone up. He's a very good game manager with usually an even split in run/pass ratio. You contain R. White, you got the best shot of winning...and I thought Asante did a pretty good job.
Next week...Tennessee can get to the qb, as I think they are one of the leaders in sacks this year. You want to really see where Kolb is, you let him play on the road in Tennessee. He wont have Jackson and roll coverage will now be shifted to Maclin so its going to be a huge challenge for him....but if he is your franchise guy you let him play with that kind of adversity since Vick is not 100% anyway.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 18, 2010, 08:39:26 AM
im not saying the eagles are going to the playoffs yet because their last nine games are brutal but at the same time the nfc sucks so bad...its probably the worst its ever been...and its had some really down years lately
And it still might be the best division in the NFC, which speaks to how horrible the NFC is this year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 18, 2010, 08:39:26 AM
im not saying the eagles are going to the playoffs yet because their last nine games are brutal but at the same time the nfc sucks so bad...its probably the worst its ever been...and its had some really down years lately
Regarding this, I'm not saying the Eagles are a great team, but is there any team in the NFC you say to yourself "they have no chance against them". It's pretty even throughout with no dominant team.
def no dominant team and unless the saints get their act together nobody scares me
but i dont know that that means the eagles can beat the best because i dont know if they are even a playoff team
at the end of the day will it matter if the best team in the nfc is weak if the eagles are the 9th best team in the nfc
i keep harking back to this
indy
@ wash
giants
@ chicago
houston
@ dallas
@ giants
minesota
dallas
if they can get thru that and make the playoffs then they are co favorites in the nfc with anyone you wanna put against them
I am terrified of the Cowboys being on a mission after losing four games that they could have should have won. As soon as they stop getting 100 penalties a game, which you know will happen, they are going to steamroll people. I am really farging happy that the Eagles don't play them next week.
I'll play devils advocate on their second half schedule which I agree is brutal. The only team they can't beat in that schedule is Indy. The Giants are playing well but no better than the Eagles. Dallas scares me because of last season, but I think they can split. Minnesota is not that good. Chicago is a team they always struggle with but they're coming back down to earth. Houston should be a win and I think they'll beat Washington the second time around.
Quote from: SD on October 18, 2010, 01:38:58 PM
I'll play devils advocate on their second half schedule which I agree is brutal. The only team they can't beat in that schedule is Indy. The Giants are playing well but no better than the Eagles. Dallas scares me because of last season, but I think they can split. Minnesota is not that good. Chicago is a team they always struggle with but they're coming back down to earth. Houston should be a win and I think they'll beat Washington the second time around.
I agree with this. They are as good as most of the teams on that schedule right now. The problem with it is there is no cake game where the Eagles should just show up and win. If they play like they did vs Washington, they will lose to every team on that schedule.
indy L
@ wash W
giants W
@ chicago W
houston L
@ dallas W
@ giants L
minesota L
dallas W
Quote from: SD on October 18, 2010, 01:38:58 PM
I'll play devils advocate on their second half schedule which I agree is brutal. The only team they can't beat in that schedule is Indy.
and theres no teams on there that cant beat them...thus before i bedome a full fledged believer i wanna see them go thru a nine game stretch with no easy games
the brutal part of that run is that the easier games are on the road...then again one of those games is wash who they lost to at home
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 18, 2010, 01:35:23 PM
indy
@ chicago
houston
minesota
im not taking a stab at the division games yet but that right there does not scare me
sure manning will probably torch the eagles like he does every time he plays them, but chicago just lost at home to seattle. yes that seattle.
the houston game is on a thursday night. dome team + philly cold + short week + soft team thats never won a big road game = eagles win
minnesota in week 16, meaning 41 year old brett favre hanging around in 30 degree weather for 3 hours. plus minnesota is 2-3 and not very good. that should be a win, too.
so ill say 3-1 out of the division to get them to 7-3 overall. if you simply split your division games thats 10-6. if dallas is toast by the time they play them, which is possible, thats 11-5. that probably wins the east and maybe gets them a bye.
im not sold on this team but i am sold on this conference being awful.
every teams fans in the nfc can homer it up with their schedule just like you did with the eagles....except they get to do it with easier games
pretty much, which is why i wouldnt call this schedule brutal
its division games + winnable mostly home out of division games
3-1 is very reasonable from that stretch
OLine did an awesome job. Gotta give props to King farging Dunlap of all people. They gave Kolb time to drop make, make his read, and release without having to step backwards as he threw. I'm not convinced it's going to stay that way all year, so it's a rare chance to compliment them.
Maclin is the real deal. Not that there wasn't any real doubt about him, but the guy just finds ways to get open and make catches. Hopefully Pimp isn't dead because these 2 at WR for the next 8 years should make everyone wet in the pants after the slop we've had to deal with before.
Brent Celek-Where are you?
Tony G had 2 TDs', but very surprising that he didn't shred the D for a bunch of catches and yards. Props to Q and whatever LB they used to cover him.
Kolb showed what he can do with time. He carved up a D that a lot of folks were saying was underrated and playing well. Also took more shots down the field, which is great to see after the game 2 weeks ago. Looks like he'll be starting again this week, so lets see if he can keep on keepin on.
Quote from: MDS on October 18, 2010, 02:38:20 PM
pretty much, which is why i wouldnt call this schedule brutal
its division games + winnable mostly home out of division games
3-1 is very reasonable from that stretch
I'm looking at 10-6/9-7 final record, which in the NFC puts them in the playoffs.
@ ten W
BYE
indy L
@ wash W
giants L
@ chicago W
houston W
@ dallas L
@ giants L
minesota W
dallas W
There it is. A very doable 6-4 finish for a 10-6 final record and a wild card berth. BAZAM
holy shtein...that was awesome.
do it again.
Wildcard? shtein 10-6 could win the division.
No way, man. That kind of genius only comes once in a rare while.
PM me for the complete box scores of all 10 games, though.
i just need to see a stretch of games that dont include sf and detroit before i believe this is anything but a .500 team
atlanta was an impressive start
The divisional games will be key. The Cowboys were a bad matchup last year and will be desperate for wins. The skins game is basically a complete toss-up. The Giants look as if they will eat the Eagles offensive line alive, which is why I'm thinking 0-2 against them this year. Basically, I would be surprised if they went 5-0 or 0-5 for the rest of the season against the NFC East, but everything else is in play.
I think the Eagles split vs NY and Dallas and beat Washington.
Dallas also might have closed up shop for the year by the time they play. Either that or they'll be on an impressive run to get into contention.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 18, 2010, 04:08:57 PM
The divisional games will be key. The Cowboys were a bad matchup last year and will be desperate for wins. The skins game is basically a complete toss-up. The Giants look as if they will eat the Eagles offensive line alive, which is why I'm thinking 0-2 against them this year. Basically, I would be surprised if they went 5-0 or 0-5 for the rest of the season against the NFC East, but everything else is in play.
If Vick is starting either one of those Giants games and what you think will happen is true, then I think they can still pull one out. Vick using his legs FTW
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 18, 2010, 04:12:51 PM
I think the Eagles split vs NY and Dallas and beat Washington.
Dallas also might have closed up shop for the year by the time they play. Either that or they'll be on an impressive run to get into contention.
very important distinction
they play dallas so late its either gonna be a team packed it in or a team thats rolling on house money and heading towards 9-7 and the playoffs.
Nate Allen got burned today at least once
Oline looked good for about half a quarter, then shat the bed
Kolb was decent but inconsistent. Couldn't make the deep throws into the wind, but was running around trying to save his own life
Shady is awesome
im sure im not saying anything that was talked about ad nauseum during the hame but the eagles refusal to take ellis "im a kick returner" hobbs off britt was inexcusable....and it goes back to their infatuation of the patriots franchise...bill belichek believes in lining up his corners on a side and keeping them there for the whole game...i fully believe the eagles stubborness today in refusing to switch corners was directly due to this
is anyone else sick and tired of the shtein talking this defense does...this was summed up and tied in a neat little bow on the 3rd and 7 cj run at the end of the game...shtein talker number one assante samuel whiffs on the tackle and all i could think of was him posing earlier in the game....and ernie sims mr loud mouth maniac guy got blown up like i havent seen in a long time on the play...then mother farging juqua parker has the nerve to talk shtein AFTER chris johnson just gets the first down to seal the game....the whole of that entire play spoke volumes about this farging team
still cant believe the lack of dawg and playmaking ability on this front seven...it was amazing watching the steelers and the bears today just going balls oiut attacking the football when a ball carrier has it...while the eagles have to concentrate their hardest to make sure the make a tackle...its night and day
so whos starting the "things more defenseless than nate allen thread"
could the two rookies have been more exposed today...nate allen was next level awful but brandon graham was horrible in his own right
lets talk offensive line...max jean gillies gets cut tommorow...enough with him...dook cant play...andy doesnt need to validate him as a draft pick anymore...hes been on the team long enough
it was just sickening how the interior of the line collapsed on every other play today
oh and jorrick calvin can share a cab with max jean out of novacare tomorrow
calvin should be cut tomorrow. don't care about his other return, you don't fumble there.
I think a big change in the game happened when the Eagles front on D started to get absolutely stonewalled by the Titans OLine in the 4th quarter. Collins, as zesty as he is, can still find someone when he has 10 seconds to throw the ball.
The most ass-backwards impressive thing about this defense is they shut C. Johnson the farg out. A very hard thing to do and probably something that 3/4 of the heads out there thought would never happen..in Tenn no less. Problem was they focused so much on him, they never watched tape on Kenny Britt.
Kerry Collins and his torn tendoned finger beat this team. He looked like shtein all game till the 4th q when the d decided to let up and play zone--and just abandon the blitz. Tenn has one of the most simplistic offenses in the nfl, mostly because they run Johnson 25 times a game. McDermott plays scared defense and its a recipe for losses.
Kolb was generic as hell, and should of been easily been picked 4 times. I think we get all excited when he completes an accurate pass because its been a plague for so long, but truth is a mediocre backup could of made the throws he made today. The wildcat trick play to Cooper was thrown into quadruple coverage.
Dwight Freeney is licking his chops right now.
How the Titans DB (Hope?) didn't pick the ball off is beyond me? Probably too shocked the ball was thrown to be able to react
Is Brent Celek hurt? Concussed? I know Kolb over threw him early in the game but he has been pretty MIA all season.
I think he read too many of the press clippings saying he was a top level TE.
Catch the ball, Celek.
Yeah, wtf with Celek? I thought he'd be off the charts by now. Kolb did miss him a couple of times but I thought he'd be open a lot more as the Titans would be keying on Maclin.
Vick used to like his TE but that was back when his TE was all he had. I think he loves having the speedy weapons on the outside and kind of forgets about the big lumbering white dude in the middle.
Celek might still be one of the better TEs, and this could be a slump, but even then that makes him less of a playmaker than three, maybe four other guys that could get the ball. Jackson is unquestionably better, Maclin and McCoy have proven to be better, and Avant catches everything thrown his way. With those guys around, I'm not real torn up about Celek.
Nice problem to have. It's a great thing to have 3 receivers we can count on. Can't recall the last time we could say that.
Charles Johnson/Torrence Small/Na Brown
Allright smart ass. Speaking of Charles Johnson, how did the birds acquire him? I remember he played at Colorado but was he a FA pickup? Who originally drafted him?
johnson was with pittsburgh i believe. not sure if they drafted him and in all honesty i don't care.
I believe that he was indeed a FA acquisition from Pittsburgh. Small was also a FA acquisition from Indianapolis, IIRC. Na Brown was drafted in the 4th round out of UNC.
Sad that I came up with all of that without any Google.
I think Johnson was a 1st rounder in pittsburgh. dont care enough to look up.
but it was probably tom modrak (lol) who brought him in
Oh yeah I mean they haven't suffered from the lack of production by Celek but I was really happy to see him become a good TE, after LJ especially. Kinda sucks that he is either forgotten or not playing as well this season.
he put himself on the map last year....defenses have to now account for him and the extra attention he is getting this year have his numbers down
i think he also played above himself last year...i suspect well find out that he isnt quite that good and that 2009 will end up being a career year for him as opposed to the norm....at the same time hes probably better than hes showing this year
I think hes just more in that funk that a lot of receivers go through as far as dropping the ball than the whole defenses have to account for him now theory for his numbers being down.
when youre a tight end youre acounted for. its not hard for an opposing team to see tape mid-season of a te making a lot of catches to know hes effective and make adjustments. the LB's job is to maintain coverage for the te's releasing from the line. its not like he was ignored last year and he was just free to roam the field. He was able to beat coverage last year which makes me think he has some injuries we dont know about thats holding him back.
Quote from: reese125 on October 27, 2010, 12:44:12 PM
he has some injuries we dont know about thats holding him back
Chase Celek? Brent Utley?
Maybe he's just not that good but people don't want to talk about it because he's a goofy white guy.
or that too...yes.
Quote from: reese125 on October 27, 2010, 12:44:12 PM
I think hes just more in that funk that a lot of receivers go through as far as dropping the ball than the whole defenses have to account for him now theory for his numbers being down.
when youre a tight end youre acounted for. its not hard for an opposing team to see tape mid-season of a te making a lot of catches to know hes effective and make adjustments. the LB's job is to maintain coverage for the te's releasing from the line. its not like he was ignored last year and he was just free to roam the field. He was able to beat coverage last year which makes me think he has some injuries we dont know about thats holding him back.
He's beaten coverage plenty this year too...he just drops the ball or the QB misses him
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 27, 2010, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: reese125 on October 27, 2010, 12:44:12 PM
he has some injuries we dont know about thats holding him back
Chase Celek? Brent Utley?
Maybe he's just not that good but people don't want to talk about it because he's a goofy white guy.
:-D
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 27, 2010, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: reese125 on October 27, 2010, 12:44:12 PM
I think hes just more in that funk that a lot of receivers go through as far as dropping the ball than the whole defenses have to account for him now theory for his numbers being down.
when youre a tight end youre acounted for. its not hard for an opposing team to see tape mid-season of a te making a lot of catches to know hes effective and make adjustments. the LB's job is to maintain coverage for the te's releasing from the line. its not like he was ignored last year and he was just free to roam the field. He was able to beat coverage last year which makes me think he has some injuries we dont know about thats holding him back.
He's beaten coverage plenty this year too...he just drops the ball or the QB misses him
I dont know...I dont see him behind many LB's down the seam like last year or running open towards the sideline...but your second point has some validity
Celek (http://twitpic.com/31b2d9)
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 27, 2010, 08:55:21 AM
I believe that he was indeed a FA acquisition from Pittsburgh. Small was also a FA acquisition from Indianapolis, IIRC. Na Brown was drafted in the 4th round out of UNC.
Sad that I came up with all of that without any Google.
That my man, is why I love you.
he was ridiculously wide open last year almost the whole season...but before last year he was a 5th round nobody who had one touchdown in his life...go for 80 and 8 like he did last year and people are going to tend to pay you a little more mind
its now up to him and the schemes to adjust
I heard Celek is playing pretty injured right now and might have a torn ligament in one of his hands which would explain the dropped passes. I also heard he has sternum, wrist, and back injuries he's been playing with. It isn't confirmed though so I don't know. He could just be having a down year.
who are you hearing this from
marcus hayes told him.
Someone I know who works down there told me he's pretty banged up. He's not a team official or anyone important so that is why I'm not saying it is anything official.
He is a joke.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 27, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 27, 2010, 04:42:55 PM
who are you hearing this from
he was joking
cole dont joke
hes boys with the janitor and he knows shtein
dont be hatin
I'm not too worried about Celek. I am worried about the fact the Eagles have shteinfarg for a second TE.
(http://magazine.missouristate.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ClayHarbor.jpg)
Clay Harbor smiles at your lack of faith
Quote from: Diomedes on October 27, 2010, 07:46:54 PM
I'm not too worried about Celek. I am worried about the fact the Eagles have shteinfarg for a second TE.
back up te's are definitely serious buisness
when Celek goes down for the season in practice next week, you'll be first in line to say no big deal, TEs don't matter, and Clay can play
Ray Diddy was talking about Celek being injured today on WIP. I never know whether it's the truth or just a convenient excuse made for people who aren't performing.
I have to believe he's hurtin'. He is no were near what he was last year.
from the phillies thread, injured is code word for being white and playing poorly
Celek definatly is there.
I don't think an injury explains why he is dropping balls that he should be catching.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on October 29, 2010, 11:11:54 AM
I don't think an injury explains why he is dropping balls that he should be catching.
What if the injury is a torn ligament in his thumb? Broken hand? Broken finger?
Detached retna?
Quote from: King Cole on October 27, 2010, 04:46:07 PM
Someone I know who works down there told me he's pretty banged up. He's not a team official or anyone important so that is why I'm not saying it is anything official.
More on our boy:
QuoteEagles tight end Brent Celek is tied with the Vikings' Randy Moss for most dropped passes after 7 weeks. Celek and Moss both have six drops. Rams wideouts Danny Amendola and Brandon Graham, both ex-Eagles, are tied for third with five.
Domowitch meant Brandon Gibson.