WR, Florida
Really????
pretty sure i can guess igy's look test outcome
No, Riley.
Slow. White. Boy.
former Phillies draft pick
Name test FAIL. I have a niece named Riley.
now drafted by two different philadelphia teams
sounds like a red zone guy to me
he was a sick gunner for a while at fla. i like this..
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/combine/headshots/497282.jpg)
ewwwww
(http://www.gatorzone.com/baseball/images/bioimg2008/45.jpg)
sean morey take 2
car first name, car last name
(http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/TRC2343.jpg)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/415918556_364d27bc70.jpg)
Not a bad pick at this point in the draft. They have obviously been looking for a size guy if you look at who they interviewed and brought in for workouts.
that first pic is HOT
i just dont get taking him over carlton mitchell....again they go for the good guy instead of the best player...or like i said maybe they think cooper can be a dynamic red zone guy with his size...but mitchell is way better
Maybe he'll become the red zone target that Baskett never emerged as. He's taller than 6'3 and obviously athletic playing two sports.
I like it. Good size player at Florida with some athleticism. Get rid of Baskett.
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2010, 01:19:32 PM
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eagles answer to jason werth?
Riley Cooper and Clay Harbor are going to be an awesome one-two punch on next year's UVA lacrosse squad. Shouldn't these two be wearing pleated khakis and getting their MBAs right now?
Don't they know, the NFL is for angry impoverished black dudes?
Kinda like the military, but more strict.
finally signed
I was worried
is easy actually rendering a little sarcasm there
never a concern, but when the rest of the standard 4-yr deals for the Saturday picks were done over a month ago, ya wonder what's the hold up
who wonders?
Who cares? Is this guy going to be anything but a PS guy who couldn't beat out Hank Baskett?
over/under on number of times his name and red zone are mentioned together during training camp is currently at 752
http://youtu.be/-dEQxO8Yuas
Welcome to a couple of hours ago Dio.
Get back to your cement siding.
The kind with asbestos?
Is there any other kind?
Riley Cooper Twitter:
"I am so ashamed and disgusted with myself," Cooper said in a statement. "I want to apologize. I have been offensive. I have apologized to my coach, to Jeffrey Lurie, to Howie Roseman and to my teammates. I owe an apology to the fans and to this community. I am so ashamed, but there are no excuses. What I did was wrong and I will accept the consequences."
So...what will be the consequences?
Being on the eagles.
Apparently fined by the FO. No $ amount disclosed. What a farging fool.
Quote from: Don Ho on July 31, 2013, 06:02:59 PMBeing on the eagles.
Ha!
Also...saw this question asked and it's a good one: What if he concluded his enunciation of the slur with "ah" instead of "er?" Different?
They're discussing that right now on the fanatic. "ah" vs. "er"
QuoteWhere them getting dollars at, yeah, all my D-boys be in my seat, boy
This is how we get it, get it, real stillupfront's moms farging with it
With a chest full of chains and I'm farging with this jackpot
Man, we do it Neck fame
I guess Jackson is the only Eagles WR permitted to use the magic word without any need for concern.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 31, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on July 31, 2013, 06:02:59 PMBeing on the eagles.
Ha!
Also...saw this question asked and it's a good one: What if he concluded his enunciation of the slur with "ah" instead of "er?" Different?
if he was at a jay z concert with a bunch of black friends perhaps...it would still be ignorant and moronic but maybe not racist
but hes a redneck and was at a kenny chesney concert...
And what is Jackson's excuse? Is it okay for the black kid to "keep it real" but not for the white kid?
It's bullshtein hypocrisy of the worst kind.
Not really...we, as white men, have never had people go to the other side of the street when we're walking down the street, or looked at like we're automatically shoplifters at a store, or whatever racist bullshtein black people still have to endure. Black people use that word in a way white people just can't.
Sorry Rome, permission will not be granted for use of the 'N' word in public.
Quote from: Rome on July 31, 2013, 06:38:05 PM
And what is Jackson's excuse? Is it okay for the black kid to "keep it real" but not for the white kid?
It's bullshtein hypocrisy of the worst kind.
dumbest most old white guy argument ever....the exact one you hear on hannity or rush everyday
go listen to a tribe called quests song 'sucka stillupfront's mom' or read some black history sometime...jesus im so tired of hearing this
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQiJIMHCAAAyp5E.jpg:large)
DGunn ain't havin none of that
^ Hypocrisy ^
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2013, 06:29:15 PMif he was at a jay z concert with a bunch of black friends perhaps...it would still be ignorant and moronic but maybe not racist
but hes a redneck and was at a kenny chesney concert...
that seems about right
He should be apologizing for being at a Kenny Chesney concert.
also they need to cut this guy....im all for second/third chances and i wish him luck on whatever team signs him but i want him off the eagles
no different than people who never wanted vick and still dont
I don't understand the Vick comparison but yeah, time to let him go and good luck.
Quote from: hbionic on July 31, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Sorry Rome, permission will not be granted for use of the 'N' word in public.
Obviously, you have never lived in the Souf.
Quote from: hbionic on July 31, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Sorry Rome, permission will not be granted for use of the 'N' word in public.
Certainly not by us, amirite amigo?
"I talked to Lurie, Roseman, and Kelly..."
in other words, "I spoke to the master white men in charge and asked if there was a way out of this black mess". "They told me not to worry, black people are worth less than the 5/8's they were worth 200 years ago...no one's going to give a shtein. We'll fine you some token money, then extend your contract and we'll make you richer than you were before".
It's hard to believe that you're being serious, Rome.
Which would you rather have...black skin and all that comes with it, including the right to use the N word....or white skin and all that comes with it, even though you don't get to use that word?
Fact is, white skin means you get almost every advantage...just not with that one word.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 31, 2013, 06:53:29 PM
I don't understand the Vick comparison but yeah, time to let him go and good luck.
Haha... you don't see the irony in that statement? The board's king reverse racist hates the white receiver for the same reason the typical racist Eagles fan hates Vick because he's black. It's hilarious. And don't get me wrong, I actually love IGY. He's just so farging full of shtein with the racial nonsense it's beyond entertaining to me to read this foolishness.
Quote from: hbionic on July 31, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
"I talked to Lurie, Roseman, and Kelly..."
in other words, "I spoke to the master white men in charge and asked if there was a way out of this black mess". "They told me not to worry, black people are worth less than the 5/8's they were worth 200 years ago...no one's going to give a shtein. We'll fine you some token money, then extend your contract and we'll make you richer than you were before".
POTY
Quote from: Diomedes on July 31, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
It's hard to believe that you're being serious, Rome.
Which would you rather have...black skin and all that comes with it, including the right to use the N word....or white skin and all that comes with it, even though you don't get to use that word?
Fact is, white skin means you get almost every advantage...just not with that one word.
Well, I am being serious. Either it's a word that doesn't get used by anyone or not. I don't use it but at the same time I understand the genuine hurt that it causes.
If you're black and you're dropping the N word then you're low class. If you're white, then you're low class at best.
It's a zesty word that ought not be used but black people do get a pass that whites don't, and that's fair in my view.
is rome really trolling for the "why do they get to say it but we cant" crowd?
seriously? i always thought he was just a decent but harmless old fart but come on now.
anyway riley has to go. cant show his face round here. cant do it. its not even really a debate. hes not even that talented and he used the n word. its like an automatic, ok youre gone, type deal.
Cant be that way Rome. Blacks have every right to use it on themselves because they were the ones persecuted not whites.
It's a word that just shouldn't come out of a white persons mouth ever-- especially in anger--and its even more embarrassing when it comes out of a white persons mouth when hanging around his black buddies
Quote from: MDS on July 31, 2013, 07:11:16 PMis rome really trolling for the "why do they get to say it but we cant" crowd?
seriously? i always thought he was just a decent but harmless old fart but come on now.
He is a decent man,
You on the other hand are a farging piece of shtein, more like to Cooper than not. Die.
Hahaha
Quote from: Rome on July 31, 2013, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on July 31, 2013, 06:53:29 PM
I don't understand the Vick comparison but yeah, time to let him go and good luck.
Haha... you don't see the irony in that statement? The board's king reverse racist hates the white receiver for the same reason the typical racist Eagles fan hates Vick because he's black. It's hilarious. And don't get me wrong, I actually love IGY. He's just so farging full of shtein with the racial nonsense it's beyond entertaining to me to read this foolishness.
no what i mean is the same way animal cruelty might be very important to some people where they wouldnt want an animal abuser on the team they root for (even tho it meant nothing to me) is the same way i feel abut having someone with racist tendencies or a straight up racist on the team i root for (even tho it might not be a big deal to others)
btw i hate vick
Quote from: Rome on July 31, 2013, 07:01:46 PM
Either it's a word that doesn't get used by anyone or not.
i feel like you are putting riley cooper using the word as an adjective on the same level as desean jackson using it as a noun...theres no comparison...because pimp calls his boys the n word as a term of endearment does not mean riley cooper can then say it with racist intentions
there are plenty of blacks who agree with you but its black people who should be deciding who can use the word not old white men...i personally think its retarded for any white person to use the word period....however ive known many of them who have used it around black friends of mine who had no problem with it....and even tho it bothered the shtein out of me i knew it wasnt my place to tell them how to feel about it
Quote from: reese125 on July 31, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
It's a word that just shouldn't come out of a white persons mouth ever-- especially in anger--and its even more embarrassing when it comes out of a white persons mouth when hanging around his black buddies
more complete idiocy
a white dood saying it around his black friends who have no problem with it is more embarrassing than a white supremacist using it at kill blacks rally???
wtf?
Quote from: Diomedes on July 31, 2013, 07:06:04 PM
If you're black and you're dropping the N word then you're low class. If you're white, then you're low class at best.
It's a zesty word that ought not be used but black people do get a pass that whites don't, and that's fair in my view.
Bullshtein. No one should use it. Ever. That's my point.
Just to be clear here... NO ONE SHOULD USE THE TERM. Ever. Under any circumstances. It is a word that has caused more misery than almost any other in the English language and everyone who uses it should be chastised to the point of utter humiliation.
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/07/marcus-vick-puts-out-a-1k-bounty-out-on-riley-cooper/
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2013, 07:26:57 PM
Quote from: reese125 on July 31, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
It's a word that just shouldn't come out of a white persons mouth ever-- especially in anger--and its even more embarrassing when it comes out of a white persons mouth when hanging around his black buddies
more complete idiocy
a white dood saying it around his black friends who have no problem with it is more embarrassing than a white supremacist using it at kill blacks rally???
wtf?
yes its farging embarrassing when a white person says it around a group of black dudes--friends or not. period.
I'm more in favor of laughing at the sheer idiocy of folks dumb enough to speak like Cooper, instead of acting all appalled like he actually lynched somebody. Treat it like he just seriously admitted that he gets handjobs from his sister.
I don't really believe in bad words that should never be said. I believe in bad thoughts and bad ideas. It's kind of lazy when people start blaming people for saying certain magical naughty words instead of for expressing hate-filled ideas, and it helps to maintain the hateful power of those words. When an adult having a serious conversation about that word (which is not the Cooper situation) says "the N word", to me it's like hearing an adult say "poo poo" or "pee pee". We all know the word, the double g sound by itself is not going to kill black people.
Short version: Cooper's a certified low-class moron now, but I hate the focus on the word rather than the hateful and divisive intent whenever this kind of thing comes up.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 31, 2013, 07:44:36 PM
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/07/marcus-vick-puts-out-a-1k-bounty-out-on-riley-cooper/
He'd have to borrow the money from Mike
there aren't many people on earth dumber than marcus vick....and hes going to look even dumber when his brother comes out tomorrow forgiving cooper for a stupid mistake
vick did just that like 10 minutes ago
im not sure why the media makes any kind of mention of what marcus vick tweets. he is a talentless retard who happens to be the brother of a famous qb. why is his opinion newsworthy?
Quote from: MDS on July 31, 2013, 08:13:31 PM
he is a talentless retard who happens to be the brother of a famous qb. why is his opinion newsworthy?
Just going out on a limb here but I think the media, and especially the sports media, and especially the Philly sports media, likes stirring up shtein from time to time.
oh without a doubt they do
but retweeting marcus vick is such a simple thing. its not even a big deal. but people are so overly emotion and see marcus vick being a dumbass and it creates clicks, facebook likes, WIP phones lighting up, etc.
its an endless cycle of nonsense about something that doesnt matter...tebow...brett favre...whatever.
QB Eagles hit it spot on with how I feel about words and the power they're given...that said, some words carry so much history and weight behind them that it takes them longer to evolve into a term where people no longer associate that word with it's negative history. "Gay" is a great example of this, and it annoys me to no end when people say "Don't say that's so gay!". stillupfront has not evolved to that point yet and quite possibly never will, so just let it go.
White people really suck sometimes.
Man, this is what I get for wishing McNabb chat would die down.
dont worry--im sure mcnabb will find a way any day now to blame riley cooper the super bowl loss
Quote from: hbionic on July 31, 2013, 06:50:49 PM
He should be apologizing for being at a Kenny Chesney concert.
:-D
Remember that KR TD Cooper had where he was laying in the endzone before the kick but it was called back? Riley Cooper is the worst
get rid of this bum.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 01, 2013, 10:46:37 AM
get rid of this bum.
i dont understand how he didnt at least get suspended for a game or two by the eagles the league or both
because now having to go to racism classes means so much more.
he will graduate loving all brothers.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 01, 2013, 10:46:37 AM
get rid of this bum.
i dont understand how he didnt at least get suspended for a game or two by the eagles the league or both
I don't understand how he hasn't been cut yet...it's not like he has the talent to trump his stupidity.
Because it would be racism for a bunch of white guys to cut a dumb white guy who isn't talented and said dumb white trash things.
Maybe because after Jackson and Avant they have no one else?
Where are they going to find another receiver that can't get open or catch?
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 01, 2013, 01:22:26 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 01, 2013, 10:46:37 AM
get rid of this bum.
i dont understand how he didnt at least get suspended for a game or two by the eagles the league or both
I don't understand how he hasn't been cut yet...it's not like he has the talent to trump his stupidity.
diddy was just calling out lurie hard...saying that if you read the statement he released and how strong it condemned what cooper did that he is being a hypocrite by still giving him a paycheck
btw he just caught a 50 yard td pass from foles in practice
Foles: Racist sympathizer or neo-nazi?
He gave Vick a chance and he literally tortured animals to death for his own amusement.
But sure, cut whitebread for saying a racial epithet in anger.
Quote from: Rome on August 01, 2013, 01:38:40 PM
He gave Vick a chance and he literally tortured animals to death for his own amusement.
But sure, cut whitebread for saying a racial epithet in anger.
So what you're saying is Riley Cooper should go to jail?
Quote from: Rome on August 01, 2013, 01:38:40 PM
He gave Vick a chance and he literally tortured animals to death for his own amusement.
But sure, cut whitebread for saying a racial epithet in anger.
you are on an impressive terrible analogy hot streak
Quote from: General_Failure on August 01, 2013, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 01, 2013, 01:38:40 PM
He gave Vick a chance and he literally tortured animals to death for his own amusement.
But sure, cut whitebread for saying a racial epithet in anger.
So what you're saying is Riley Cooper should go to jail?
no just stop wearing flannel sleeveless shirts
How about he stops playing for the Eagles? Or breathing? He's a dumbass, trying to look tough threatening to jump a fence to fight numerous people. Even without having said the N word, he's a tool of major proportions.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2013, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 01, 2013, 01:38:40 PM
He gave Vick a chance and he literally tortured animals to death for his own amusement.
But sure, cut whitebread for saying a racial epithet in anger.
you are on an impressive terrible analogy hot streak
Diddy said Lurie would be a hypocrite letting him stay. He'd be a hypocrite for cutting him after signing Vick after far worse. Understand?
Everyone gets a second chance, let's hope Coopers is with another team.
Quote from: General_Failure link=topic=20876.msg935695 #msg935695 date=1375378486
Foles: Racist sympathizer or neo-nazi?
:-D :-D :-D
:cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead
Quote from: shorebird on August 01, 2013, 02:01:16 PM
Everyone gets a second chance, let's hope Coopers is with another team.
In the CFL.
Quote from: Rome on August 01, 2013, 01:58:23 PM
Diddy said Lurie would be a hypocrite letting him stay. He'd be a hypocrite for cutting him after signing Vick after far worse. Understand?
no...i dont
because the two situations are completely different
vick didnt commit his crime on the eagles (the falcons cut him)...plus he did two large in federal prison while going bankrupt....eagles sent him thru the ringer and decided to give him a second chance....just as another team would give riley cooper a second chance once the eagles cut him
and as gf said lurie wouldnt be sending cooper to jail....nor would he be taking all his money away....he simply would say you embarrassed our organization and we dont want that kind of hate in our locker room or on our campus....thanks and good luck where ever you end up
theres also the fact that its well known andy pushed for vick....lurie didnt want him and had to be talked into it
"This sort of behavior or attitude from anyone has no role in a civil society."thats what lurie said....so its not acceptable in a civil society but apparently its ok for the philadelphia eagles??
I don't understand.
also while i would have instantly cut him myself....im more playing devils advocate thru diddy and thought the hypocrite angle he brought up was interesting....diddy is way more upset about him being on the team right now than i am
i will say the punishment cooper received certainly did not mirror the ferocity of the statement lurie released
Wait.....so a billionaire is making an exception to his own rule? I for one am SHOCKED!
LeSean McCoy told me what hurts about Cooper's remarks is "losing a friend." I asked him what that meant, "I can't respect a guy like that."
Breaking News: LeSean McCoy Released.
Can't have no stillupfronts making trouble and causing a distraction.
Eagles unveiling a new Riley Cooper helmet later today.
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ha...jesus
and it begins....
That's my contribution to the internet.
btw this is another reason he should not be on the team...let someone elses franchise be mocked for carrying a racist on their roster
and more importantly it undermines my racist taunting of the taterskins
Has anyone checked in with the other CF on this?
Since the story broke, they've all been too busy fapping to provide any commentary.
I went to a pub for lunch today and the loudmouths there were discussing this.
One guy was really letting the Eagles have it in particular. Towards the end of his rant I asked him who his team was. Answer: taterskins
My response: Oh, I see.
His friends ripped him until I got up to leave and probably after too.
Quote from: Rome on August 01, 2013, 04:20:18 PM
I went to a pub for lunch today and the loudmouths there were discussing this.
One guy was really letting the Eagles have it in particular. Towards the end of his rant I asked him who his team was. Answer: taterskins
My response: Oh, I see.
His friends raped him until I got up to leave and probably after too.
That's better.
So if and when he scores a td, do the black players go crazy and go over and congratulate him like they normally would? Should be an interesting sight.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 01, 2013, 03:39:45 PM
Since the story broke, they've all been too busy fapping to provide any commentary.
Well, they definitely fapped over the Maclin injury....
QuoteMaclin was a quality NFL starter and doesn't seem like a "thug" type of NFL Negro...but I immediately thought of criminally-underutilized Cooper when I read of his ACL tear. Since Jason Avant works exclusively in the slot, Riley will be primarily competing for time against the injury-prone, former 2nd round Tampa Bay bust, Arrelious Benn.
With H-Back James Casey, TE Brent Celek, rookie TE Zach Ertz, WR Riley Cooper, their 4/5 white starting OL (Evan Mathis, Jason Kelce, Todd Herremans, and Lane Johnson), and Connor Barwin starting on defense, the Eagles should be a heavy "Caste Football Favorite" in 2013.
Now if only Mike Vick suffers his annual broken ribs, we could have an official favorite for the NFC!
This site is so fun....
QuoteI'm kind of with Truthteller on this one, he may be a wigger, but the only problem with that; is his apology.
I would have made no comment until asked and would have said I hear so much crazy @$$ black rap music in the locker room using the word nigg@ and f#c% all the time it just came out. Kind of like when your child here's you say a curse word, they are prone to repeat it. There, end of of explanation. Let's move on.
QuoteThis is the perfect illustration of how nuts this country is. I can't stand it nor wrap my mind around it. No one sees the double standard in this society. When black people say the word its a positive thing - give me a break. NO ONE seemed to care when "creepy ass cracker" was uttered by Trayvon Martin and his fat friend. It's not racist yet somehow this is.
Its bizarre how this one word has somehow become so taboo. Cultural marxism at its finest.
QuoteSo apparently you can't be forgiven for saying the n word, Skip Bayless said he would have cut him on the spot, but apparently people that beat women and other horrific things can be forgiven.
But, blacks are more "forgiving" than whites on this issue, because frankly, a good deal of them believe deep down that all whites go around using it behind closed doors and that they are all racist, and where I am from, we do say it quite a bit, although its not thrown around all the time. Probably the same in Florida where Riley is from, or any area where Whites live amongst a bunch of blacks. I remember going to Oregon and saying it and people acted like it was illegal to say and I remember being shocked.
The NFL CAN'T discipline him because his team already did, otherwise I am sure he would have gotten harsher penalties. I haven't been paying that much to ESPN but the stories have been getting ridiculous and I can't imagine the dwf that watches this stuff non stop. With just a couple of Whites in the news they have gone all out (Manziel is the other guy, the coverage has been ridiculous), its like when MTV stopped playing music videos. What happened to talking about sports? Oh yeah when its back to just to blacks getting in trouble it will be closer to that
lol at the bolded
QuoteThe NFL claiming to be "diverse and inclusive" ranks as one of the most hypocritical statements of all time, even for our ultra-hypocritical age. The NFL is built and maintained, on the field and off the field (management, ownership and broadcasting) pretty much for two groups only -- jewish males and black males. White men are deliberately kept a minority on and off the field. For example, just about every studio combination I saw on ESPN and the NFL Network yesterday reporting and commenting on Cooper's slur consisted of blacks and Jews with the occasional solemn goy like Matt Millen thrown in for good measure. And the owner and the general manager of Cooper's team just happen to be Jewish. What a coincidence!
The NFL is not a place that has any interest in Whites, Asians, Hispanics or anyone else except for its two favored groups. It's the Caste System version of the "civil rights" coalition of blacks on the street and Jews steering them that operated so well and thoroughly throughout the 20th century, and while it's developed strains (many blacks don't like Jews), it still works very well.
It's not only the blacks...it's those damn Jews, too!
"Thank God for Riley Cooper."
- George Zimmerman
Quote from: reese125 on August 01, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
So if and when he scores a td, do the black players go crazy and go over and congratulate him like they normally would? Should be an interesting sight.
The entire sideline busts out in a soft-shoe routine.
Quote from: reese125 on August 01, 2013, 04:39:02 PMSo if and when he scores a td, do the black players go crazy and go over and congratulate him like they normally would?
There will be a lot of Heil Fives.
Quote from: reese125 on August 01, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
So if and when he scores a td, do the black players go crazy and go over and congratulate him like they normally would? Should be an interesting sight.
Like we'd have to worry about Cooper scoring a TD.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 01, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: reese125 on August 01, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
So if and when he scores a td, do the black players go crazy and go over and congratulate him like they normally would? Should be an interesting sight.
Like we'd have to worry about Cooper scoring a TD.
Only against Dallas.
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Get?
Only if they have the white one.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 01, 2013, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: reese125 on August 01, 2013, 04:39:02 PMSo if and when he scores a td, do the black players go crazy and go over and congratulate him like they normally would?
There will be a lot of Heil Fives.
:-D
You guys have been on a roll today. This is a proud day for :CF
QuoteSaid Eagles running back LeSean McCoy: "I forgive him. We've been friends for a long time. But in a situation like this, you really find out about someone. Just on a friendship level, I can't really respect someone like that."
And how could he? When one of the best players is speaking The Truth like that, how the farg can you keep Cooper on the team.
especially on a team that is starting all fresh and new....new coaches...new systems on both sides of the ball...
whole new era
they dont need this shtein weighing on and distracting them all year and especially right now
I'm sure when they're 4-9 in December Riley Cooper's calling a security guard a name will be weighing heavily on the team's psyche.
Since everyone is has their panties ruffled over this word. Let's all just hold hands and say it a few times. stillupfront, stillupfront stillupfront, stillupfront. It is just a word. Stop giving it such power.
Lets cut him because he said he wanted to beat up some Nigerians that were dumb enough to be at a Kenny Chesney concert...........pause..... not. This man is black pause not. This man is black............................................NOT!
I get it iggy, you aren't racist. Not at all, I bet you don't even see color. I won't ask you if you are gay either because I am sure you are NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT GAY. I get it man.
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/eagles/?wss=/philly/sports/eagles&id=217984331
Quote from: Chameleon on August 01, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
Since everyone is has their panties ruffled over this word. Let's all just hold hands and say it a few times. stillupfront, stillupfront stillupfront, stillupfront. It is just a word. Stop giving it such power.
Lets cut him because he said he wanted to beat up some Nigerians that were dumb enough to be at a Kenny Chesney concert...........pause..... not. This man is black pause not. This man is black............................................NOT!
I get it iggy, you aren't racist. Not at all, I bet you don't even see color. I won't ask you if you are gay either because I am sure you are NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT GAY. I get it man.
You're an idiot. Shut up, idiot.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 01, 2013, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: Chameleon on August 01, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
Since everyone is has their panties ruffled over this word. Let's all just hold hands and say it a few times. stillupfront, stillupfront stillupfront, stillupfront. It is just a word. Stop giving it such power.
Lets cut him because he said he wanted to beat up some Nigerians that were dumb enough to be at a Kenny Chesney concert...........pause..... not. This man is black pause not. This man is black............................................NOT!
I get it iggy, you aren't racist. Not at all, I bet you don't even see color. I won't ask you if you are gay either because I am sure you are NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT GAY. I get it man.
You're an idiot. Shut up, idiot.
Solid point.
http://youtu.be/EcLdMcbkGPM
Excellent.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2013, 09:06:40 PM
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/eagles/?wss=/philly/sports/eagles&id=217984331
again why is he on the team?
its kind of crazy because at a time like this when everything is so new and youre trying to build team character and get everyone in unison with each, this kind of incident will cause divide in the locker room.
you hear it all the time...you need a strong locker room to win with as less negativity as possible. the guys that cause this are usually the first to go. now of course the eagles are at a time where they dont have the true talent to win big, but you at least want to get off to a good start for the future. this kind of incident has all the potential in the world to rear its ugly head at any point in the season and locker room so he should really be let go.
Exactly.
He needs to be sent on his way to preserve the locker room sanity and harmony.
They can find someone to catch 20 passes a year elsewhere
the eagles will forever be known as the team that employs dog murderers and racists
good
Cooper sucks and the Eagles can certainly do better than him but some of you are suggesting he shouldn't be permitted to make a living because he used a racial epithet in anger. That's chilling and about as un-American as it gets.
Look, everyone makes mistakes. He shouldn't be booted off the team because he called someone a name.
He should be cut if he's not talented enough to make the roster, and so far, he's been one of the top 4 receivers on this squad. Cutting him for "locker room harmony" is ridiculous. Those men are professionals and you don't have to love the people you work with. You just have to do your farging job. If someone is butt-hurt enough to quit on the Eagles or request a trade because a teammate said something insulting, you really don't need that sort of weak-minded Hoyda on your team to begin with.
We're all adults here and we likely all have people that we work with that we're not in love with. That doesn't stop us from going to work each day and doing the best job we can. The Eagles are no different in that regard.
while i agree thats the way it should be, I don't think you're grasping the magnitude of this in today's society and media.
how many on air "professionals" have been let go from their job for being politically incorrect just out of blunder alone? difference here cooper had some severe hate behind it which make his case worse.
the eagles do not need this right now--he can make a living- just not with the eagles.
If I work with devout Christians and say, "goddamn" should I get fired for saying something that is utterly offensive to them?
It's PC bullshtein, plain and simple.
Bottom line for me is if the guy isn't talented or productive enough to play on the team and contribute to them winning, then yeah, cut his farging ass. And I actually think that's the case with Cooper. He's not worth the headache. All I'm suggesting is he shouldn't be cut because he got pissed off and uttered a taboo word in the heat of a confrontation.
Then cut him because he sucks too because he really does suck. Even if nobody on the current roster can win the 4th WR spot from him, doesn't mean he earned a spot.
He can make his living working with Reno and Chickie & Pete's.
i love how romey keeps going back to the in the heat of the confrontation thing...like that makes it less bad...or like that word is ever said in a hateful manner during a normal civil discourse...the PC card that whites always throw out is hilarious as well...its PC to you romey cause it doesnt bother you or hurt you...its just another word to you...its not just another word to millions of black people who as of a few years before you were born didnt have basic civil/human rights and for 400 years before that had their ASSES KICKED in this country...and these days with the all out frontal assault on voting rights the memories are as fresh as ever...so farg your PC shtein...this is real life for a lot of people
now to the supposed "confrontation"....the 'confrontation' was him not being allowed into the vip area of the show...so it was a complete one way "confrontation"...star athlete doesnt get vip treatment...gets salty and all too easily calls the a security guard the n word in a vile and hateful manner after the guard has already walked away from the "confrontation"...i dont want someone that can so easily have that word roll off his tongue in my locker room...and the anger behind it is almost as bad as the word itself...this wasnt a slip up....he wasnt being reggie dennyed...he had a tempter tantrum beause daddy wouldnt buy him a pony....and the first word that came to mind was that word...if another team wants him more power to them...no one is saying he cant make a living...but i want him off the team i root for
george hegeman got cut for not pushing a tackling sled hard enough...darrell crutchfield got cut for smoking weed....christ pimp got suspended for a game for being late to a team meeting...riley cooper does this and gets a fine a written statement from the eagles condemning it and more paychecks
the eagles came up woefully short here as did goodell.....at the bare farging minimum he should have been suspended for X amount of time...and even if you dont suspend him for games right away....i dont get bringing him back in the locker 18 hours after shtein blew up....for the apology yes...but then hes gotta go home for a while and everyone has to ponder shtein...him being out on the practice field yesterday was really dumb
Where's that "didn't read" gif?
By all accounts Cooper is an entitled douchebag across the board. And he's not talented enough to really tolerate the trouble. Is there a double standard for more talented players? Of course.
Does he deserve a second chance? Probably. Doesn't have to be here, though. Who needs the headache? I'd say cut him and eliminate the distraction; but if they were going to do that, they should have done it right away. Either that, or come down harder than they did to send a message. Now the team just looks wishy-washy.
If they were going to cut him over the comment they should have the moment they found out about it. If they up and cut him now they come off as petty cowards who bowed to public criticism rather than doing what was the right thing in the first place.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 02, 2013, 08:37:16 AM
By all accounts Cooper is an entitled douchebag across the board. And he's not talented enough to really tolerate the trouble. Is there a double standard for more talented players? Of course.
Does he deserve a second chance? Probably. Doesn't have to be here, though. Who needs the headache? I'd say cut him and eliminate the distraction; but if they were going to do that, they should have done it right away. Either that, or come down harder than they did to send a message. Now the team just looks wishy-washy.
i dont think they look wishy washy at all...i just dont think they did the right thing...the reacted super quick and matter of fact...they just didnt react in the right way imo
Wishy washy, mostly because the words and tone didn't match the actions; not because of the speed.
http://deadspin.com/heres-how-that-riley-cooper-tape-got-out-990112504
This was Chippy's shot to put his stamp on the team and he came up short, IMO. There were already some concerns (mostly from IGY and probably me in a distant 2nd) that players wouldn't respect him and now I'm even more concerned. What happens when DJax shows up late for practice or meetings? Reid benched him for that. Can Kelly realistically hand out the same punishment? What message does that send?
2/3 of the Eagles roster is black and Chip (along with Lurie and Roseman) handed out a punishment without even consulting anyone on the team. I'm not saying they should have formed a Black Panther council to determine the punishment, but at the very least they should have met with some team leaders first to get their insight and find out how the lockerrom in general feels about it and then come up with a punishment.
And you've also got to look beyond the lockerroom and today.
1. Even if the team forgives him, that doesn't mean that JPP or Von Miller or Demarcus Ware or any other black defensive player on the Eagles' schedule has.
2. In a league that is nearly 70% black, I'm sure there's a few black players who will be free agents next year and might have reservations about joining a team if (a) Cooper is still on it, and (b) has a reputation of being soft on white players dropping n-bombs in a blatantly hateful manner.
$23.17?
in chips defense this wasnt an in the locker room or on the field trangression...it was bigger than that...thus imo it was the owners responsibility to say our franchise doesnt want riley cooper in our organization...so in that case i think chip can hide under the lurie umbrella here
that said we dont know what happened behind the scenes as to whether chip said "i need him with maclin out" or "i cant have him in my locker room" or something in between...or nothing
i dont discount that you may be right and there could be players who are telling the coach right now that they dont want to play with this guy and the fact that he was on the field YESTERDAY could def be held against the coach...if not that hes defending cooper but that at the very least hes not standing up to the owner and defending his players...which honestly would be really hard for a new to the nfl coach
anyway you look at it chip is in a tough ass spot
mike freeman reporting eagles want to cut cooper
Like I said, farging cowards.
i wish they would have cut him immediately but if they cut him today i'm ok with that too.
farg that dude.
i think sunny summed it up the best when he first broke the story on CF
Quote from: SunMo on July 31, 2013, 04:00:53 PM
so Riley Cooper is a racist piece of shtein (surprise?)
i dont see the eagles are cowards. they now see the magnitude it has brought
they acted quick on their first decision to fine him--which is fine, but apparently after hearing from players now see what its doing to the locker room and on the field. no harm in changing their minds
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2013, 09:50:20 AM
mike freeman reporting eagles want to cut cooper
What's this "want to" bullshtein? Just farging do it already
They're trying, but Cooper keeps sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling no.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 02, 2013, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2013, 09:50:20 AM
mike freeman reporting eagles want to cut cooper
What's this "want to" bullshtein? Just farging do it already
apparently they are concerned with blowback from the union so they may wait until later in the preseason to do it
Time to let him return punts all preseason.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2013, 08:24:21 AM
at the bare farging minimum he should have been suspended for X amount of time...and even if you dont suspend him for games right away....i dont get bringing him back in the locker 18 hours after shtein blew up....for the apology yes...but then hes gotta go home for a while and everyone has to ponder shtein
Riley Cooper has been excused from all team activities, the Eagles announced early Friday afternoon.
The statement reads:
"As we have said, Riley Cooper will be seeking counseling and we have excused him from all team activities. This is all new territory and we are going to evaluate this timetable every step of the way. He will meet with professionals provided by the Eagles during this period of time to better help him understand how his words have hurt so many, including his teammates."
Just cut the piece of shtein.
Ay athlete that isn't smart enough to shut the farg up about their racist tendencies should not be trying to make on filed analysis during a crucial possession on the field with a game n the line.
Cut that farg.
Well, I'm hoping he won't be quite that drunk on the field. Would explain a lot, though.
Quote from: hbionic on August 02, 2013, 12:57:57 PM
Just cut the piece of shtein.
Ay athlete that isn't smart enough to shut the farg up about their racist tendencies should not be trying to make on filed analysis during a crucial possession on the field with a game n the line.
Cut that farg.
You're just mad because Cooper didn't hate on beaners and you feel left out.
If you're going to make derogatory remarks, you should go all the way and call us Mexicans not beaners.
Are you and Sarge butt buddies? I'm curious because you post like you've rubbed asses before. (Not that there's anything wrong with biracial buttfargery).
Rome, you want in? There's more than enough to go around.
according to his bio one of riley coopers favorite two tv shows is king of queens
The other one The Wire?
all in the family
Guy just really loves shows set in Queens.
QuoteJeff Skversky @JeffSkversky 5m
Despite leaving the team indefinitely to seek counseling Riley Cooper's position on the team is not in jeopardy according to chip Kelly
Until the league decides to force the change in DC, Goodall, media and every team owner/mgmt. group will twist their pretzel logic every time this comes up. If Lurie really had a sack, they'd be parlaying this into a forced boycott of DC until they change it. "My Eagles will not play in that stadium until they do." Now is the time or it all rings false. farg cooper - journeyman at best and irrelevant to the dialog go-forward unless team and local media does what it should. But nope - all are too afraid to get cut-off from league access. And Lurie's too afraid of the other owners. Thing is its a "no-lose" position. (But then again this is the town that gave the world Ben Chapman so yeah not likely to lead on this one either...)
Call Budweiser, call Chevy, call all the advertisers out and force them to justify their continued support of "taterskins"...
Unless of course the debate is about "equivalency"....i.e. would Cooper have been OK if he merely said "I'll fight every Blackskin...?" With continued league, team, media and advertiser silence during this opportunity, I guess it is. Also Barry likes weighing on this type of stuff - here's his chance literally right in his own back yard...
Roaring silence
lol @ seeking counseling
hes toxic right now. they tried to keep him around and hope this would play itself out but its beyond a distraction and they just want him gone until they figure out what to do
most likely hes going to traded to ____ for a conditional draft pick or theyll work something out with the nflpa and just outright release him. i cant see being on the 53 when all is said and done.
Remember the Titans
Quote"There has never been any question of cutting Riley," Kelly said. "His status with us is not in question."
Hmmm...
Nice message to the rest of the team there Kelly.
This incident is the beginning of the end of the Kelly regime. Boat never left the dock. It was sunk before it sailed.
I'll pass on the NFL package now. I think I'll find better ways to become aggravated than to watch this sinking ship.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 02, 2013, 09:25:54 AM$23.17?
I'm curious about this too.
Regarding cutting Cooper...what does the CBA say? Could the team actually cut him for this non-crime, off-the-field incident? If they did, would they open themselves to a lawsuit from the Players Union?
Pretty sure the first amendment supersedes any "conduct detrimental to the team" bullshtein.
And settle your ass down, Chuggie. You'll buy the ticket and you'll watch the games. If you can get past Vick playing for this team, you can accept a racist honky third string wideout playing for them.
The First Amendment doesn't exempt you from "at will" employment laws. You can be fired for almost anything, including threatening to jump a fence and fight all the stillupfronts here.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 02, 2013, 06:48:14 PM
The First Amendment doesn't exempt you from "at will" employment laws. You can be fired for almost anything, including threatening to jump a fence and fight all the stillupfronts here.
Basically this. The first amendment has no bearing on Cooper's continued place on the team.
The agreement between the players union and the NFL team owners however..that may have something to say about what teams can do with players who displease them legally.
I'm certain the NFLPA isn't going to have its membership go out on strike to protect the civil liberties of Riley Cooper.
My point is if he gets cut and the NFL blackballs him because of this incident, they're going to find themselves in court.
And the plaintiff will be the NFLPA.
Riley himself won't have a claim.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 02, 2013, 06:23:52 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on August 02, 2013, 09:25:54 AM$23.17?
Regarding cutting Cooper...what does the CBA say? Could the team actually cut him for this non-crime, off-the-field incident? If they did, would they open themselves to a lawsuit from the Players Union?
they can cut him with no recourse....what the union would fight for is this years salary being paid in full
Quote from: hbionic on August 02, 2013, 04:59:22 PM
Nice message to the rest of the team there Kelly.
This incident is the beginning of the end of the Kelly regime. Boat never left the dock. It was sunk before it sailed.
hes over his head anyway....this was pretty much the last thing he needed...and reason number 26 to get rid of the redneck
Quote from: JackStraw on August 02, 2013, 03:37:51 PM
Until the league decides to force the change in DC, Goodall, media and every team owner/mgmt. group will twist their pretzel logic every time this comes up. If Lurie really had a sack, they'd be parlaying this into a forced boycott of DC until they change it. "My Eagles will not play in that stadium until they do." Now is the time or it all rings false. farg cooper - journeyman at best and irrelevant to the dialog go-forward unless team and local media does what it should. But nope - all are too afraid to get cut-off from league access. And Lurie's too afraid of the other owners. Thing is its a "no-lose" position. (But then again this is the town that gave the world Ben Chapman so yeah not likely to lead on this one either...)
Call Budweiser, call Chevy, call all the advertisers out and force them to justify their continued support of "taterskins"...
Unless of course the debate is about "equivalency"....i.e. would Cooper have been OK if he merely said "I'll fight every Blackskin...?" With continued league, team, media and advertiser silence during this opportunity, I guess it is. Also Barry likes weighing on this type of stuff - here's his chance literally right in his own back yard...
great points....unfortunately this will never happen...blacks dont even care about indians much less old white men...which is ironic cause indians were shtein on even more than blacks in this country...youd think they have a common thread....fact is tho more than half the washington fanbase is made up of blacks who would be salty as farg if the name was changed
Hey, imagine that. It turns out black people are just like all other large groups of people. They don't much care about who's getting farged over so long as it's not them.
Yay humans.
all people are swine....white people just think they are better
Dawkins' opinion as espoused on the Fanatic. (http://www.975thefanatic.com/teams/eagles/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10574430)
Nutter's Reaction (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/nutter-cooper-incident-disgrace)
does anyone still go to the emb and been able peep the goings on there this week
i cant imagine how this incident has drawn out the vermin over there more than ever...its was a racist place when there was nothing going on...its gotta be off the charts now
I just watched Django Unchained for the first time. I couldn't help but wonder if this was Riley Cooper's favorite movie.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 02, 2013, 10:08:30 PM
Nutter's Reaction (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/nutter-cooper-incident-disgrace)
Nice to see that race-bating piece of shtein injecting himself into this mess for political gain.
PS: If he was going to suspend municipal employees for saying "unicorn" he'd have 99% of the workforce on suspension.
I was talking to a young black guy at work (he's a janitor) about classic cars a few weeks ago. He was telling me about this classic car he was trying to purchase and kept saying "and I told that stillupfront's mom I wasn't paying that much and that stillupfront's mom kept trying to tell me what a great deal I was getting". In my section there's 10 cubicles 5 of which are occupied by black people. We all just stared at him with the same blank look on our face.
Nothing to do with Riley Cooper but I just thought it was amusing.
I can't take 4 days of racism talk. The horse is dead. Move on WIP and the Fanatic.
heeees baaaaaaaack
Cooper: "Hey guys, guess what? I'm clean. Doc said I'm clean! I no longer hater ni**ers! Can you believe it?"
Hugh Douglas dropped an N bomb at HOB in Orlando.
OUTRAGE!
They let black guys in the House of Blues?
Some of their best friends are black.
The Onion getting in on the fun. (http://www.theonion.com/articles/philadelphia-fans-excited-to-have-one-of-their-own,33386/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
(https://sphotos-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1239886_598440030199298_1485021568_n.jpg)
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/&id=247330191
Nearing a multi-year contract...
Maclin expected to sign a one year "show me" deal too
that's disappointing to hear.
Why? He's better than Avant. They're still going to upgrade with Kelly and he's fine as a 3/4.
theres no comparison btwn him and avant....cooper is an outside playmaker...avant is an inside first down maker....i think avant is gone but it will have nothing to do with retaining cooper
normally in the nfl its all about guaranteed money but in coopers case the years are what is going to interest me...usually a guy about to hit the open market wants longer years at that age...but with the kkk incident and the fact that he never did shtein before last season maybe the eagles can get him at two years....and toss a few extra guaranteed bucks in.....that to me would be ideal
If Maclin comes back he becomes the slot guy and regardless I still think they get a big #1. Cooper at the right money and years is fine and nothing to be disappointed about. That's all I'm saying.
Quote from: Rome on February 26, 2014, 05:50:35 PM
Why? He's better than Avant. They're still going to upgrade with Kelly and he's fine as a 3/4.
because he's a racist pos coming off of a career year and isn't very good
and "better than avant" isn't the bar i want to set
Avant catches everything but game winning touchdowns and gets negative yac. But he's a first down machine in the slot.
Can Cooper play the slot? Is the slot WR worth much at all to Kelly? Celek and Ertz have eaten up some of the slot looks.
What is your lineup if the Eagles retain Maclin and Cooper both, and draft a WR?
Jackson, Maclin, Cooper, Draft pick unless the draft pick is super awesome, Smith, Other.
lol
I mean on the field.
again gotta wait to see kkkoopers contract because that will tell a lot...but I gotta think chances are if mack and him both come back that wr will not be a high priority so i wouldn't count on a draft pick contributing much next year
i know know both have baggage....but they also are potential free agents....i cant see both coming back at basement prices
I would have preferred they re-signed Maclin and drafted a bigger receiver but Cooper is fine as a #3 option and he has a nice chemistry with Foles. Maclin is a legit #2 receiver, assuming he comes back healthy. It's one less position they have to address in the draft. If they sign a Safety they can concentrate on taking the bpa. And I'm interested to see the numbers he'll be receiving.
yeah i really don't understand why anyone wants a receiver picked in the first round anyway, regardless of these two. if maclin comes back, this is way down on my priority list.
you guys did see the eagles secondary last year right?
my theory is that they are five years away from building a championship defense....if they ever can do it
where as if you believe chipper and foles are for real then they are a stud #1 wr away from maybe being able to outscore teams on the way to the superbowl next year
if your franchise is currently defined by an offensive genius head coach and a young qb then i put the offense next level
Mosher says it's a four year deal - no money totals yet
I'm betting they're getting him on the cheap compared to what any other guy who put up his numbers would've gotten because of the incident.
His farging drop against the Saints still pisses me off.
Quote from: SunMo on February 26, 2014, 07:48:38 PM
Quote from: Rome on February 26, 2014, 05:50:35 PM
Why? He's better than Avant. They're still going to upgrade with Kelly and he's fine as a 3/4.
because he's a racist pos coming off of a career year and isn't very good
and "better than avant" isn't the bar i want to set
fair enough. i think his re-signing is a good one simply because i think he's a good player who earned the extension. i also think they're going to address the lack of a true #1 receiver at some point by getting a bigger 1-a to go with desean, so this signing, if it happens, is really just the birds locking up one of their own younger guys. either way i don't have a problem with it.
the racist thing is played out, though. he took his medicine and earned another chance.
Quote from: Rome on February 26, 2014, 09:35:47 PMthe racist thing is played out, though. he took his medicine and earned another chance.
Oh? Playing football good makes it okay that you're a racist dbag in the real world? Would his medicine have worked so well, and would have earned another chance if he didn't suddenly become an NFL caliber player and just kept sucking?
wait so you dont think hes racist anymore or you think that was a one time thing with him?
I'm more concerned that Dio thinks he played good.
took his medicine. ha.
i seriously can't root for the guy and would rather him not be here. i mean i'll cheer when he scores but will say farg cooper immediately after. and yeah that new orleans drop. ugh.
i have no problem cheering for the guy because he played hard and took whatever shtein he had coming to him from his teammates and opponents.
he's getting a new deal and i hope he's productive in the same way i hoped vick was productive when he got his new deal.
that's it.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 26, 2014, 09:51:49 PM
I'm more concerned that Dio thinks he played good.
I'm concerned as well. It's not like Dio to use poor grammar and this board is dragging him down. But he's right in that Kooper played well. After Foles took over Kooper overachieved in a system where Chip used him to his strengths and he even threw in a couple of highlight reel catches. Although he has probably hit his ceiling other than maybe getting better as a redzone target, I'm fine that they re-signed him if it is along with Maclin rather than instead of him (even if Mac is a 1yr deal).
As a starter, Maclin was good for at least 4 catches a game in a zesty 2012. As a starter, Cooper was good for almost 3 in a year where the offense was kind of amazing. Maclin was 22nd in catches among wide receivers in 2012, Cooper was 51st in 2013.
He's okay, but not terrible. It'll be nice to have him back if he isn't a starter, but that wouldn't make it a lock that they don't draft another receiver.
My point was, playing well does not mean the guy has taken his medicine, nor does it grant him another chance. He's still a redneck, people just forgive him for it because he did well on the field. Had he cratered, no one would be saying things like "he took his medicine."
I'd rather see the guy get his second chance elsewhere but I can't argue with his performance last year, or with the chemistry he seems to have with the starting quarterback.
i don't want him permanently punished for his mistake. i just of the personal opinion that the incident with him is deeper seeded than him just being drunk at a concert and letting something slip and he's the type of person i would rather not be on the team i root for.
5 years, $25M for Cooper. haven't seen guaranteed money yet.
i bet the guarantee is around 8-9 mil....nothing that would preclude them from taking a wr in the first round.....but combined with mack coming back it makes it highly unlikely that position is of an even medium priority level
the draft is deep as shtein at the position so they probably take one to develop over the next couple of years but pimp - kkk - mack is their top three
a factor in the wr position also has to be that they believe ertz is going to take a huge leap forward this season and basically be an extra wideout
Not a bad deal at all. And honestly, the reason he had a good year is he has a QB who can actually throw the ball into a spot where cooper could make a play on it. He's not fast, but Foles has the touch to drop it right where it needs to be 30-40 yards down the field, or up high where Cooper can use his size. All in all, Resign Mac to a 1 year deal, see how he recovers.
Lacanfora says $10M guaranteed
Eagles paid him more than they needed to, both base and guaranteed. Part of this probably has to do with the sizable jump in the salary cap but I don't like that they are somewhat tied to him for at least 3 years regardless of his performance. I would have called in Banner to do this contract.
I never thought receiver was a glaring position of need. They were 9th in the league in receiving yards, without Maclin. The overall offense was #2 behind the Broncos. And that was with Vick for some games.
If they don't repeat that success, I would expect it to be due to key injuries (or a regression by Foles) rather than anything related to the rest of these pieces. You can always get better at every position, but focusing on the defense is appropriate this offseason. Cooper was serviceable in the Kelly system.
QuoteRiley Cooper
Signing Bonus: $4 million
2014: $1 million base salary, fully guaranteed, $800,000 pro-rated bonus, $1.8 million cap number
2015: $4 million base salary, fully guaranteed, $800,000 pro-rated bonus, $4.8 million cap number
2016: $4.5 million base salary, $1 million guaranteed, $800,000 pro-rated, $5.3 million cap number
2017: $4.25 million base salary, not guaranteed, $800,000 pro-rated, $5.05 million cap number
2018: $4.75 million base salary, not guaranteed, $800,000 pro-rated, $5.55 million cap number
TOTAL: $22,500,000 over five years, average of $4.5 million per year, $10 million guaranteed.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 27, 2014, 09:41:34 AMAnd honestly, the reason he had a good year is he has a QB who can actually throw the ball into a spot where cooper could make a play on it.
Correctamundo! It would have been nice to see how Foles worked with Maclin.
Quote"The only thing I can possibly think of is I'll either be the number three, because they're (Pimp, Maclin) both great players, or we'll just do maybe some more subbing," Cooper said, "a little bit more high-tempo and getting fresh guys in and work on that."
Damn straight son.
I don't know if it's high or low in terms of money but I have a feeling that when we see what the other FA WR's get this deal will be exceedingly reasonable.
Also - I don't see any reason why they still can't get a receiver high in the draft especially if they address the safety situation via free agency.
Looks like a one year deal to me unless he really improves or Maclin can't cut it.
its def too much money for a guy who will be "subbing in" thats for sure...its even too much for a #3 guy....especially on a team that employs multiple te's and an even an h back for god sakes...also with shady getting mad carries theres only so many balls to go around....add in the fact that hes had one solid year in his life and hes clearly being overpaid
Quote from: General_Failure on February 27, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
Looks like a one year deal to me unless he really improves or Maclin can't cut it.
lol @ 11 million for one year of riley kkkooper
Do they keep Celek and Casey too?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2014, 06:48:47 PM
Do they keep Celek and Casey too?
Casey has to go.
Don't know what Celek's making but if it's too much I'd restructure his deal or show him the door. I'd prefer to keep him because I'm all for the veteran depth but it's not like he's irreplaceable.
i think celek is a lock to stay...a foundation of chips offensive philosophy is multiple te's they cant get rid of both....casey i guess could go he didn't do much but hes a great special teamer and maybe they think he contributes more in year two
Assuming they bring Maclin back I like this deal. Cooper is a good #3, he's big and has deceptive speed because he's white. He's a solid downfield blocker and can run almost any route.
Desean is treated like a legit #1. He might not be in the class of a Calvin Johnson but he's game planned for because of his deep speed.
Maclin is perfect for those mid ranged routes. He's probably one of the best mid range WRs (10-15 yards) in the game.
Cooper rounds them out.
It's a deep WR draft, so they can still find quality in the mid rounds.
Avant needs to be shown the door.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2014, 06:55:10 PM
i think celek is a lock to stay...a foundation of chips offensive philosophy is multiple te's they cant get rid of both....casey i guess could go he didn't do much but hes a great special teamer and maybe they think he contributes more in year two
Assuming this site's numbers are correct, Celek is due to make over $4 million next season. No way he's worth that. The good news is the Eagles have all the levying power since he's not owed any more guaranteed money. He's almost a lock to restructure his deal. 30 year old TEs who catch 30 balls a season are a dime a dozen. They can always bring in another TE if he doesn't restructure, he's not getting $4 million per on the open market.
http://www.eaglescap.com/Players/BrentCelek.html
his catches are irrelevant....really for te's in this offense total catches is pretty meaningless....they are out there to create mismatches and make plays.....and celek was 15th in the nfl in yards per catch...
he knows the offense and four million for one year is not even close to a terrible price for him....also hes only 29....not that that matters much since he can be cut at anytime
i recognize he could be cut but i wouldn't do it...and a restructure at this point makes little sense.....hes pretty much run out of bonus money and is completely free of dead money....imo monetarily hes a safe and crispy clean keep for the team
celek turned himself into a damn fine blocker. i'm fine with him staying. casey needs to go especially with ertz busting out last year.
There are plenty of mediocre f/a TEs who can replace him...Pettigrew/Chandler/Graham/Cumberland/Pitta...none of them will get a deal worth $4 million per or more. He's replaceable. I agree they need two TEs to run Chip's offense but I wouldn't keep him around at $4 million just because he knows the system.
Quote from: Rome on February 27, 2014, 07:08:35 PM
celek turned himself into a damn fine blocker. i'm fine with him staying. casey needs to go especially with ertz busting out last year.
I wanted Casey gone too but he only makes $700,000 or so a year. Not really going to break the cap. He's fine to keep around as a ST guy who can fill in at TE in case of an injury.
Quote from: SD on February 27, 2014, 07:12:02 PM
There are plenty of mediocre f/a TEs who can replace him...Pettigrew/Chandler/Graham/Cumberland/Pitta...none of them will get a deal worth $4 million per or more. He's replaceable.
i just dont see why on earth would you go on the open market to bid against other teams for someone you are going to have to give a contract with guaranteed money and bonuses when you have your own guy locked in at a clean 4 mil with no penalty of cutting
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that I cannot believe that they extended Riley farging Cooper. There are 30 WRs in the league who are more or less identical to him. What did he have? 45 catches last year? As a starter? On a high-octane offense? farg this guy.
Yes I know I'm late to the party. Shut up.
47 for 835 with 8 tds, the bulk of those stats coming after Foles took over. There are 30wr's in the league as good or better, at least stats wise but not many are available so that argument has no merit. Kelley says he's one of the hardest workers on the team, and they're impressed with his downfield blocking, it helped Shady a lot. Regardless of what happened at the concert, they like him. Most people who don't like him feel that way because he said the N word and it was caught on tape. No doubt rjs feels the same way.
I don't think it's as big as everyone makes it out to be. It's five years for $25 mil with only ten of that guaranteed. He's a big possession receiver good in the red zone. He was their guy and they signed him. Live with it.
I think his signing was more about continutity than anything else. They knew what they had last year, and didn't want to subtract from that success. It's a two year deal on a team with a good amount of cap wiggleroom, and an expanding cap #.
I just want them to sign a beast DE/OLB
Quote from: shorebird on March 03, 2014, 01:26:43 PM
47 for 835 with 8 tds, the bulk of those stats coming after Foles took over. There are 30wr's in the league as good or better, at least stats wise but not many are available so that argument has no merit. Kelley says he's one of the hardest workers on the team, and they're impressed with his downfield blocking, it helped Shady a lot. Regardless of what happened at the concert, they like him. Most people who don't like him feel that way because he said the N word and it was caught on tape. No doubt rjs feels the same way.
I don't think it's as big as everyone makes it out to be. It's five years for $25 mil with only ten of that guaranteed. He's a big possession receiver good in the red zone. He was their guy and they signed him. Live with it.
Dropping the n bomb certainly didn't endear me to him, but his teammates let it go so I'm not going to cling to it like some martyr for the cause. I just think he's as average as a WR gets and don't understand for an instant why they would give him any sort contract above the league average for 3rd receivers.
Also, I want to shave his stupid wheat sack off of his head. Get a haircut for farg's sake you farging shteinkickin redneck.
yeah the haircut really bothers me
Same...any dude with long hair needs to cut it.
So the question begs to be asked...does the carpet match the drape length?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2014, 03:14:25 PM
Same...any dude with long hair needs to cut it.
there are like ten dudes in the world who can carry it
here's one
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Yeah good point - a limited few.
I've had a buzz cut or fade for fifteen years and wore a flat top before that so any time hair touches my ears I'm uncomfortable. I couldn't stand long hair. Every week in the chair at the barber shop here
I've been shaving my own head since high school. Barbers don't get my money.
Mine either, but cancer patients get my hair once a year.
You should use a flowbee, and (https://imageshack.com/a/img812/8631/wwlt.gif)ooper sucks
The flowbee's for pubes, man.
This place is too much. From Riley Coopers contract to cutting cock hair with a flowbee. Lol!!
go away
it is kind of impressive how he scammed his way into a starting wr gig in the nfl. less impressive because it's the eagles.. but dude is obviously horrible and somehow made some good cash out of being bad at something.
Cooper hired someone to blow out Maclin's knee, then had to pay for it with Jackson's coffee table cash. Imagine how good the offense could have been last year without this monster.
so you're essentially saying he's tonya harding with more hair and less athletic ability?
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/&id=283741761
STFU KKKooper
If Maclin agrees to trade contracts with him right now in exchange for playing time, I'd be so happy.
last 8 posts the best in cf history.....white ass munson is prob upset
What??
I mean, I was hoping Cooper would continue his growth from last year and settle in as an adequate if un-special #2...but, huh?
I'm on the Maclin train, you already know that.
So KKKooper was asked why his playing time has decreased in the last 6 weeks (hint: it's because he sucks) and he made a comment about how Maclin isn't coming out because he's playing for a contract.
Mac basically called him an idiot.
KKKooper said he was kidding.
It's all good in the hood.
I see what you did there.
Yeah I heard a bit of KKKooper's mea culpa today...I laughed when he said that Mac was better than him. No shtein??
jason avant is better than him....like right now
Josh Huff or KKKooper? Serious question.
Huff, no question. He's at least got one positive contribution this season that anyone can recall.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 25, 2014, 10:49:49 PM
Josh Huff or KKKooper? Serious question.
the white dood
Huff doesn't make that fumble at AZ it's him hands down. I'm not even counting the Green Bay punt return boner as that game was an entire franchise debacle. Still can't trust Huff. God damn I wanted them to draft Brandin Cooks so bad! farg you Sean Payton!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 25, 2014, 10:49:49 PM
Josh Huff or KKKooper? Serious question.
At this point you might as well trot Huff and there and see what he's got and hope he doesn't make a mistake
Better question....
KKKooper or Cole Beasley.
Go.
A chance at a fumble or a chance at a tipped pass leading to an interception? Gotta go with Beasley, his hair's better.
:-D
QuoteOf the 28 receivers in the NFL to play at least 80 percent of the team's offensive snaps, Riley Cooper was the least productive player. Even if you doubled his production, there'd still be 15 receivers adding more points for their respective teams. That's, uh, not good.
His five-year contract extension last offseason ($22.5 million, including $8 million guaranteed) continues to be a head-scratcher for Philadelphia. The organization paid him as the 26th best receiver in the NFL per OverTheCap.com, and his production obviously doesn't come anywhere close to matching his price.
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:-D