Well, we all think the worst for this upcoming week. Even with McNabb this was going to be a tough game. The silver-lining here is that the Saints defense can give it up. The black cloud is that Kevin Kolb would have trouble exploiting a solid Division I defense.
The theme for this week, and it is already being pushed, is how Kolb never gets snaps with the first team offense in practice. Now he will have a week to prepare and practice as "the guy" and that will help him.
In theory that sounds good. Especially if they tailor the game plan to fit the new incoming players skills. But the problem here is that Kolb holds the ball so damn long that his window for completions in timing routes close quickly. Then he runs around and ends up dumping it off, taking a sack or throwing a pick.
Corn on the Kolb. Has anyone thought of that one yet? It's exactly like Korn on the Kolb but without all of the anal and oral copulation.
All about the defense and the run game in this one. If D can hold Brees in check then we'll be fine. Kolb just needs to throw a few here and there. Heavy dose of Westbrook, McCoy, DJack and Buckley. Kolb does look horrible though. I don't care what excuses that may come up for him. Its time for him to prove his worth. I'd still go get Feeley at this point. Thank god we got Vick. Just hope he can jump right in and do good, just don't see it happening at this point.
Hopefully McDermott won't get owned like JJ did by Payton.
whats the line gonna be
saints -2.5?
igy, the decimal is at least one place to the left
Sal Pal didn't "want to compare Kolb to Peyton Manning, but both threw 6 interceptios out of their first 18 pass attempts so Kolb deserves the benefit of the doubt"
Idiot
saints minus a quarter point?
ha - I meant its too far to the left and needs to be moved right by at least a power of 10
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
igy, the decimal is at least one place to the left
Sal Pal didn't "want to compare Kolb to Peyton Manning, but both threw 6 interceptios out of their first 18 pass attempts so Kolb deserves the benefit of the doubt"
Idiot
lolz. idiot is an understatement. manning also started for a team that was 3-13 the previous year and didn't have ish for a supporting cast. kolb probably has the deepest pool of playmakers that i can ever remember seeing on the eagles roster.
having said that, kolb should print that sal pal quote out and put it in his scrap book because it's probably the best thing anyone is ever going to say about him and the only time he'll ever be mentioned in the same sentence as peyton manning.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2009, 02:22:27 PMmanning also started for a team that was 3-13 the previous year and didn't have ish for a supporting cast. kolb probably has the deepest pool of playmakers that i can ever remember seeing on the eagles roster.
but he never gets to practice with them. I guess the Eagles' backups on their own could be a 3-13 team...
And Manning had Faulk, Harrison, Dilger and Pollard plus a high pick in Jerome Pathon. Their issue was the defense (built by JJ the year before), which couldn't hold anyone under 20 points unless Ryan Leaf was playing....
The Eagles have NEVER EVER lost a single game with Kolb starting. Ever. That is why I looooooooooooove the Eagles in this game.
the Saints haven't won in Philadelphia since 1991
You just did as the announcers do....as soon as there is some kind of streak going....boom....broken.
Thanks a lot Mr. Ed.
the Eagles haven't won a title since 1960
better?
get the same pressure on brees as we did on delhomme and we will get a victory.
This will be a tough one. Only hope is that the D can hold the Saints offense in check, and the Eagles can mount a good run game to keep Brees off the field and run the clock down. If the Eagles fall behind in this one and Reid has to have Kolb throw over 20 passes, it's over.
Eagles 44
Saints 17
The Eagles played extremely well taking the run away last week, so Carolina had to rely on Jake D's arm with a shadowed Steve Smith all game. Thats a recipe for disaster and it showed. Now youre asking the Eagles to take away a pass first team which scares me a bit, not because of the eagles corners but because of LB's. There is no team in the NFL that has the slew of offensive weapons the Saints have...and they are all healthy unlike last year.
The Saints love to play the seam routes on the outside, and if they do go vertical on the outside with Meachem and Colston taking S Brown, A Samuel and a safety with them that leaves the middle of the field with L Moore, R Bush (out of the backfield and the slot), and Shockey having big games. If the eagles decide to play a cover zone to slow up the big play, brees can still eat them up....not to mention the Saints offensive line only gave up 13 sacks last yr
with McNabb out...saints roll here
with McNabb and his flack jacket....saints roll here
Saints 28
Eagles 10
prove me wrong birds
Saints 58
Eagles 3
Should be over by the second quarter.
Drew Brees throws for 17 TDs and eats Trent Cole's left ankle.
Just the left one?
ha. eats his left ankle....farg is wrong with you
If 5 was healthy it would be some crazy score like 44-42, but with Kolb in....ugh I can't even think about it.
The only way we might survive is if the defense holds up, and Reid channels Mike Ditka and grinds the clock out on the ground with Westbrook and McCoy. Brees can't throw 6 TDs from the bench after all...
Good to see you guys giving the defense even a half of a shot after this past game. ::)
44 points? Come on.
seriously...to think the d is gonna played exactly as it did against carolina may be a bit much, but if its anywhere near to what it was, then this team has a good shot to win. who knows? maybe all this shtein about kolb finally getting to practice with the 1's all week is real and he comes out and does his thing. i bet he does..
Eagles 27
Saints 21
dont' get me wrong. THey still lose and Kolb sucks to a point of embarrassment.
But I don't think the Saints put that many points up.
id be a fool if i disagreed on kolb's ability. the guy one of the worst qb's who has had more than just a cup of coffee with the eagles in a while...but for the first time in ages, im gonna drink the koolaid and believe that practicing with the varsity will pay off for him, and along with another strong performance from the d, the birds go home 2-0.
if practicing with the 1's for 3 days is going to catapult this guy into a qb who makes quick defensive reads, steps up in the pocket and gets rid of the ball in a timely fashion I might have a shot at the backup spot
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 11:30:50 PM
dont' get me wrong. THey still lose and Kolb sucks to a point of embarrassment.
But I don't think the Saints put that many points up.
The Saints offense (read: Brees will pass for) four touchdowns. Their defense, blessed with 11 pulses, will be able to take the ball from Kolb whenever they damn well please. Whether or not they score is entirely up to the tackling ability of Westbrook.
Quote from: reese125 on September 14, 2009, 09:30:37 PM
The Saints love to play the seam routes on the outside, and if they do go vertical on the outside with Meachem and Colston taking S Brown, A Samuel and a safety with them that leaves the middle of the field with L Moore, R Bush (out of the backfield and the slot), and Shockey having big games.
you do know that seam routes are run to the middle of the field not the outside....thats a GO route...you also must know that seam routes work best against zone coverage which the eagles run less of than most teams in the nfl since they have excellent man to man corners
altho shockey i can see explotiing the seam because the linebackers cant cover
The Saints O is solid, no doubt about it, but they were playing the Lions last week. I might be able to throw for 4 TDs against the Lions with my 5 year old as my sole receiving threat.
With a gimpy McNabb, or no McNabb...the Saints have a great shot in this one. Then again, it's one of those games where the Eagles seem to rally together. They tend to win games like these and drop ones they should win.
I'll be generous and say the Eagles gut this one out and win 27-24.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 11:30:50 PM
dont' get me wrong. THey still lose and Kolb sucks to a point of embarrassment.
But I don't think the Saints put that many points up.
Word. No way the Saints put up 40 on this D, but they WILL score a 20-30 and I don't see Kolb's sorry ass leading the O to enough points to keep pace.
Gimpy McNabb shot up full of cortisone...maybe.
Since McNabb isn't likely to play, that more than likely means a steady dose of running the football. One thing Reid has done when he goes down is run the ball more. The Saints are horribly thin at DT, so that could be one way the birds could win. Even with a healthy McNabb this is a match up I don't like.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 15, 2009, 11:51:24 AM
Since McNabb isn't likely to play, that more than likely means a steady dose of running the football. One thing Reid has done when he goes down is run the ball more.
so mcnabb
and westbrook will be out for KC
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 15, 2009, 11:51:24 AM
Since McNabb isn't likely to play, that more than likely means a steady dose of running the football. One thing Reid has done when he goes down is run the ball more.
so mcnabb and westbrook will be out for KC
I'm still chalking up that one as a win.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 15, 2009, 11:51:24 AM
Since McNabb isn't likely to play, that more than likely means a steady dose of running the football. One thing Reid has done when he goes down is run the ball more.
so mcnabb and westbrook will be out for KC
Yeah probably.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 11:18:41 PM
Good to see you guys giving the defense even a half of a shot after this past game. ::)
44 points? Come on.
Pretty sure I posted
Eagles 44, Saints 17.
Nice rolleyes, though. Can't have enough smileys.
31-13 saints :-\
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I'm not flying 1,000 miles to see that.
44-17 Eagles. If I'm right you're buying at Cheerleaders afterward. If you're right - there's a six pack of Natural Light with your name on it.
Deal?
make it show n tell and its a deal.
I'm not planning on driving, so, ask the big dude...
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 15, 2009, 11:51:24 AM
Since McNabb isn't likely to play, that more than likely means a steady dose of running the football. One thing Reid has done when he goes down is run the ball more. The Saints are horribly thin at DT, so that could be one way the birds could win. Even with a healthy McNabb this is a match up I don't like.
Run behind the big boys, Peters and Cole were studs blocking down field in front of Westbrook. Use them and pound the shtein out of the saints
Iggles 23
Saint 17
Weather forecast for Sunday:
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never look at weather.com...they are so bad
either check the local tv websites or the gawd website weather underground
local tv websites get their weather from weather.com
only some stations do that....certain nbc stations mostly
but if you look now most philly locals have the temp on sun at mid seventies...weather.com has it at 68 which is clearly wont be
68 and sunmo with a zero percent chance of rain.
sunnymo....cause his disposition is so bright
Quote from: Rome on September 15, 2009, 12:44:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 11:18:41 PM
Good to see you guys giving the defense even a half of a shot after this past game. ::)
44 points? Come on.
Pretty sure I posted Eagles 44, Saints 17.
Nice rolleyes, though. Can't have enough smileys.
Wasn't talking about you, tough guy.
I get all my meteorological information from BlaccuWeather (http://www.blaccuweather.com/).
Its gone rain!
will sunnymo be donning the brown overalls?
not cold enough. will you be donning your ugly jew face?
whenever some tix fall in my lap. hint, hint.
i hope a bomb falls in your lap
i hope 9/11 happens to your house
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2009, 05:37:05 PM
i hope 9/11 happens your house
More solid prose from Todd.
just ask me out already
No. I enjoy the chase too much to give it up.
Weather Underground is the Catherine Zeta-Jones of weather sites.
Its always cold and slightly moist under ground. How hard is it to do the weather report for that?
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 15, 2009, 08:52:38 PM
Weather Underground is the Catherine Zeta-Jones of weather sites.
so it's smells like michael dougals' seed ? :o
Rather, his dust and unrine.
I'm going 17-10 Saints this weekend. Kolb doesn't engender any confidence in me that he can consistently put together drives this weekend, but I think the D will play well at home and at least keep the game close in terms of the score. But I just have a feeling that it will be one of those afternoons where it will be sloppy offensive play and that, even though the Eagles will probably be within striking distance all game, they just can't seem to get much past mid-field. One of those "one step forward two steps back" offensive days. But we'll see.
Lions dropped 27 on this Defense.... Kolb+Eagle's 1st team > Lions (period...) Close game 34-27 EAGLES!
Quote from: Eaglez on September 16, 2009, 01:20:35 PM
I'm going 17-10 Saints this weekend. Kolb doesn't engender any confidence in me that he can consistently put together drives this weekend, but I think the D will play well at home and at least keep the game close in terms of the score. But I just have a feeling that it will be one of those afternoons where it will be sloppy offensive play and that, even though the Eagles will probably be within striking distance all game, they just can't seem to get much past mid-field. One of those "one step forward two steps back" offensive days. But we'll see.
Eaglez...welcome back, how the hell are ya?
The Eagles are better away than at home. The defense always looks good when the team has a big lead, but probably won't have that luxury Sunday.
Saints - 30
Eagles - 10
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 02:47:14 PM
Quote from: Eaglez on September 16, 2009, 01:20:35 PM
I'm going 17-10 Saints this weekend. Kolb doesn't engender any confidence in me that he can consistently put together drives this weekend, but I think the D will play well at home and at least keep the game close in terms of the score. But I just have a feeling that it will be one of those afternoons where it will be sloppy offensive play and that, even though the Eagles will probably be within striking distance all game, they just can't seem to get much past mid-field. One of those "one step forward two steps back" offensive days. But we'll see.
Eaglez...welcome back, how the hell are ya?
Hey Jay. Doing OK man. I'm so inconsistent in coming onto these boards but I check them every once in a while. Hope all is well on your end.
Doin' good, still down here in Houston sweatin my ass off. You still in school?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 03:21:09 PM
Doin' good, still down here in Houston sweatin my ass off. You still in school?
Finished school this past May, took the PA and NJ bar, awaiting the results and looking for work. Fun fun.
Get a room?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 03:21:09 PM
Doin' good, still down here in Houston sweatin my ass off. You still in school?
Shouldn't you be worshipping at the altar of Kolb?
Quote from: rjs246 on September 16, 2009, 03:30:37 PM
Get a room?
Only if you're there. Wearing a speedo. Oh, and bring a bottle of scotch.
Quote from: RezRob on September 16, 2009, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 03:21:09 PM
Doin' good, still down here in Houston sweatin my ass off. You still in school?
Shouldn't you be worshipping at the altar of Kolb?
More like urinating all over it. All these yahoos down here worship at it and I'm the one who tells them how much he sucks, which they don't like too much.
Z,
You're gonna be a lawyer? Was that what you originally went to school for?
Are you going to be buried in your Trotter jersey?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 04:21:25 PM
Quote from: RezRob on September 16, 2009, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 03:21:09 PM
Doin' good, still down here in Houston sweatin my ass off. You still in school?
Shouldn't you be worshipping at the altar of Kolb?
More like urinating all over it. All these yahoos down here worship at it and I'm the one who tells them how much he sucks, which they don't like too much.
Z,
You're gonna be a lawyer? Was that what you originally went to school for?
Yeah pretty much. I had the idea in undergrad and it just carried over to law school when I figured out I probably couldn't do much with my undergrad degree. Still trying to figure out if it was worth it or not... when I figure it out I'll let you know.
Quote from: Rome on September 16, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
Are you going to be buried in your Trotter jersey?
I'd hope so. I'm going to be buried in my McNabb jersey and in my car
Quote from: Rome on September 16, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
Are you going to be buried in your Trotter jersey?
Either that one or my green Dawk or black Andrews.
Those are the only authentics I have, and since I'm a jersey elitist, I only want to be buried in a real stitched jersey!
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 16, 2009, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 16, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
Are you going to be buried in your Trotter jersey?
I'd hope so. I'm going to be buried in my McNabb jersey and in my car
kind of like this guy (http://www.examiner.com/x-2812-Road--Driver-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Video-90yearold-man-buried-in-car-with-cash-and-guns)
kind of - except along with the guns and loot, I'll want speedballs and hookers with me too
Quote from: shorebird on September 14, 2009, 05:06:01 PM
This will be a tough one. Only hope is that the D can hold the Saints offense in check, and the Eagles can mount a good run game to keep Brees off the field and run the clock down. If the Eagles fall behind in this one and Reid has to have Kolb throw over 20 passes, it's over.
This is the key for you guys. Most teams haven't been able to stop Brees early. That is why the Saints spent money in the offseason getting value and depth in the secondary. They figure since Brees scores on teams so quickly, we need to focus on stopping the pass first. Though you can't ignore the fact that the run D for the Saints in the preseason and in the first real game has been pretty impressive... even if their opponents aren't rushing world beaters.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
Those are the only authentics I have, and since I'm a jersey elitist, I only want to be buried in a real stitched jersey!
a true jersey elitist wouldnt own any midnite green eagle jerseys much less three
I bought a Wes Hopkins so I don't have to worry about guys sucking, leaving, or going crazy. My last two were Sheppard and Kearse.
I had a Hoying jersey.
That was in my stupid years.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 16, 2009, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
Those are the only authentics I have, and since I'm a jersey elitist, I only want to be buried in a real stitched jersey!
a true jersey elitist wouldnt own any midnite green eagle jerseys much less three
Nope. I love the new jersey's. Especially the black ones. But I also love the KG's too
Quote from: Saints Win on September 16, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 14, 2009, 05:06:01 PM
This will be a tough one. Only hope is that the D can hold the Saints offense in check, and the Eagles can mount a good run game to keep Brees off the field and run the clock down. If the Eagles fall behind in this one and Reid has to have Kolb throw over 20 passes, it's over.
This is the key for you guys. Most teams haven't been able to stop Brees early. That is why the Saints spent money in the offseason getting value and depth in the secondary. They figure since Brees scores on teams so quickly, we need to focus on stopping the pass first. Though you can't ignore the fact that the run D for the Saints in the preseason and in the first real game has been pretty impressive... even if their opponents aren't rushing world beaters.
Yep, pretty much. They have to harass Brees enough to throw off the rhythm of the offense. I don't know if they can do that. Ideally it would be with a 4-man rush and not have to blitz and leave guys open down the field.
I expect that snatch Jeremy Shockey to have a good game.
http://the506.com/nflmaps/index.html
farg, no game for me unless i'm watching on regular cable.
Sweet. I get Buffalo and Tampa Bay. Boner.
But it's Tampa's first ever visit to Buffalo. Exciting!!1
Buck/Aikman...yay
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 17, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
But it's Tampa's first ever visit to Buffalo. Exciting!
it's amazing to me that 30+ years can go by in the nfl and this hasn't happened yet.
good for that random pocket of kentucky. they get to see the game.
Quote from: MDS on September 17, 2009, 12:04:18 PM
good for that random pocket of kentucky. they get to see the game.
The Akers family has some pull. I have a buddy that lives in Lexington, they're quite a few birds fans out there, they take up a section of the bar they go to, and the Akers'esses hang with them.
Cool...I get the game....but I'm sure I'm not going to be able to watch it this week...sucks to be Pacific Islander in white America.
Quote from: RezRob on September 16, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
Lions dropped 27 on this Defense.... Kolb+Eagle's 1st team > Lions (period...) Close game 34-27 EAGLES!
Actually, they only dropped 20 on us. The last TD was a result of an offensive fumble being returned immediately for a TD. I'd chalk that up to a week 1 mistake (and a great play by the Lion that recovered it). Also, our offense and special teams gave the Lions the ball inside the Saints 20 three times due to bad kick coverage twice and a fumble once (we held those 3 attempts to 10 points). Finally, another TD came after our starting corner Greer took a hard hit and had to sit out for a play or two. Stafford immediately took advantage of the rookie replacing him and went to Johnson for 60+ yards and a TD (I'll spare you the drama of terrible officiating). The Lions only had one honest scoring drive and it ended in a FG.
In truth, the defense played very well, although it was admittedly against the Lions. If the Eagles don't get several turnovers or injure that starting corner, you may find the Saint's D is a lot stingier than those 27 points make them look.
that's good info
Quote from: davidstvz on September 17, 2009, 01:06:57 PM
Actually, they only dropped 20 on us. The last TD was a result of an offensive fumble being returned immediately for a TD. I'd chalk that up to a week 1 mistake (and a great play by the Lion that recovered it). Also, our offense and special teams gave the Lions the ball inside the Saints 20 three times due to bad kick coverage twice and a fumble once (we held those 3 attempts to 10 points). Finally, another TD came after our starting corner Greer took a hard hit and had to sit out for a play or two. Stafford immediately took advantage of the rookie replacing him and went to Johnson for 60+ yards and a TD (I'll spare you the drama of terrible officiating). The Lions only had one honest scoring drive and it ended in a FG.
In truth, the defense played very well, although it was admittedly against the Lions. If the Eagles don't get several turnovers or injure that starting corner, you may find the Saint's D is a lot stingier than those 27 points make them look.
nice!
and the only reason the saints defense will be "stingy" is because kevin cobb eats taint...giving up 10 pts to him would be worse than 20howeveryouwannaspinit pts to detroit
a healthy mcnabb puts up minimum 24 on them
A healthy McNabb also has sticky ribs.
Yeah, I'm sorry we can't have an honest game with McNabb playing. Of course, we'll take all the W's we can get.
Assuming that this is an automatic win is what turns what should be W's into L's.
Quote from: davidstvz on September 17, 2009, 02:24:48 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry we can't have an honest game with McNabb playing. Of course, we'll take all the W's we can get.
of course you will just dont act like THE SAINTS have a good defense
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 17, 2009, 02:27:46 PM
of course you will just dont act like THE SAINTS have a good defense
BOND... this ^^^^
Quote from: hbionic on September 17, 2009, 02:26:01 PM
Assuming that this is an automatic win is what turns what should be W's into L's.
That's why I'm a fan and not a coach ;)
As for the Saint's D... it certainly isn't Steelers quality or anything, but how much does it have to improve when our offense is as good as it is?
http://deadspin.com/5334056/mina-brees-died-as-she-lived-inexplicably (http://deadspin.com/5334056/mina-brees-died-as-she-lived-inexplicably) Wow Drew Brees Mom...didn't see this anywhere before. Kinda farged up.
Quote from: davidstvz on September 17, 2009, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: hbionic on September 17, 2009, 02:26:01 PM
Assuming that this is an automatic win is what turns what should be W's into L's.
That's why I'm a fan and not a coach ;)
As for the Saint's D... it certainly isn't Steelers quality or anything, but how much does it have to improve when our offense is as good as it is?
Enough to help them to a better record than 8-8? The Saints did give up the 7th most points last year.
Don't forget the Eagles are due a couple freebee Personal Fouls calls since they were farged by the Refs on the Facemask and FairCatch Int calls... Nobody really cared much about those calls later since they won by such a huge margin, but they were Bullshtein none the less. Using davidstvz logic the Eagles D didn't give up that rushing TD since that drive would've ended.
Quote from: davidstvz on September 17, 2009, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: RezRob on September 16, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
Lions dropped 27 on this Defense.... Kolb+Eagle's 1st team > Lions (period...) Close game 34-27 EAGLES!
Actually, they only dropped 20 on us. The last TD was a result of an offensive fumble being returned immediately for a TD. I'd chalk that up to a week 1 mistake (and a great play by the Lion that recovered it). Also, our offense and special teams gave the Lions the ball inside the Saints 20 three times due to bad kick coverage twice and a fumble once (we held those 3 attempts to 10 points). Finally, another TD came after our starting corner Greer took a hard hit and had to sit out for a play or two. Stafford immediately took advantage of the rookie replacing him and went to Johnson for 60+ yards and a TD (I'll spare you the drama of terrible officiating). The Lions only had one honest scoring drive and it ended in a FG.
In truth, the defense played very well, although it was admittedly against the Lions. If the Eagles don't get several turnovers or injure that starting corner, you may find the Saint's D is a lot stingier than those 27 points make them look.
katrina was hilarious.
Tomahawk: The Saints are well aware of that ;) Didn't someone earlier in this thread mention, off-hand, what a pain in the ass Washington has been the last few years despite their poor records. I think that was due to Greg Williams' defense. They even beat us 16 to 10 (shutting down a last second TD attempt) back in '06 in between games where we decimated the Cowboys and Giants. That's why we hired GW this off-season (along with several new personnel for the secondary, the line and returning greats such as Vilma at LB). Basically, this is an almost completely different defense from last year. With Williams' history, odds are it will be significantly better than 7th worst... and with any luck it will be enough to finally get us a winning season again.
RezBob: no doubt there are BS calls here and there, although I didn't complain about any. What I was referring too was the officials screwed the Lions out of a TD (by accidentally calling Calvin Johnson out of bounds at the 3), and then by the look of it turned around and made three dubious calls (two personal fouls, and negating a fumble). I freely admit the Lions should have had that TD straight up, but it took the Lions 5 plays, two penalties and a near fumble to get those 3 yards after the officials screwed them. Were any of those dubious calls pity calls? I know the league would deny it, but I don't really care if they were as the Lions deserved the TD. But if they did need pity calls, then that speaks to the quality of our D. That's all I meant there.
Rome: I'm sure you have great insight into Katrina and its aftermath, but I think I'll pass.
rome is overflowing with katrina knowledge.
Well, as long as you or your close relatives/friends are not suffering bodily harm or irreplaceable property damage, a natural disaster can be all kinds of things (exciting, annoying, interesting and even hilarious). Some might say it was hilarious watching people jump from the world trade center on 9-11. Some would say it's horrible. To each his own I guess.
This guy fits in here. Kind of.
Haha, well it might help if I was an Eagles fan, but hey, what can I do?
So back to football. I'll tell you "secret" about the Saint's offense. Our biggest weakness at the moment is left tackle Jermon Bushrod (in his third year). He's done well all preseason, but he's still the backup, he's slightly injured already (bruised knee and a mild high ankle sprain), and Sunday will be only his second NFL start. If he goes down, we still have backup Right Tackle, Zack Strief (who is solid), but we have no other depth there.
At least he's not likely to go blow his brains out if he doesn't take his meds.
Don't worry, I'm very level headed. If the Saints lose Sunday, I'll congratulate you guys, wish you luck for the rest of the season and throw my new plasma tv in the mississippi.
Bushrod? This guy will definitely fit in here.
I was talking about your lineman, but good to know you're stable too.
Get Yo Bushrod On
Didn't some team play "rock your like a hurricane" when the saints were in town last year?
I think so. Can't remember who though.
And everyone from around here with good taste still plays it too ;) Another favorite is Led Zeppelin's "When the Levee Breaks" (last track on IV).
i think the eagles surprise and win decidedly sunday making us think their for real this year.
then get violated by the chiefs up and down the field next week.
Quote from: davidstvz on September 17, 2009, 07:16:45 PM
I think so. Can't remember who though.
And everyone from around here with good taste still plays it too ;) Another favorite is Led Zeppelin's "When the Levee Breaks" (last track on IV).
Hahaha - classic song. Never would have thought to abuse with some Zepp
May have to change my fantasy team name to "Bushrod". I like it.
Looks like I'll be at this massacre in person. At least I'll be getting paid to be there. Someone on the lower level buy a beer from me. So I can say no you're too drunk and cut you off.
hey. beer. man.
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just because
QuoteMcNabb doubtful for Sunday as Eagles shake up line
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 18, 2009 2:12 PM ET
The Eagles say they are still hopeful that Donovan McNabb will play against the Saints Sunday, but their injury report has recognized that it's a long shot to happen.
McNabb is listed as doubtful with his cracked rib. Defensive lineman Victor Abiamiri is listed as questionable after injuring his groin this week and missing practice Friday.
Kevin Kolb should get the first start of his career, and will get a chance to improve his gruesome 3.7 yards-per-attempt average that he's compiled in 45 career attempts.
Kolb will play behind an offensive line that continues to make changes. Coach Andy Reid announced the team will rotate his three guards: Max Jean-Gilles, Nick Cole, and Stacy Andrews. Which is a nice way of saying that Andrews has been benched. (Jean-Gilles will replace him as a starter.)
Considering the sizable investment the team made in Andrews this offseason, this is a disappointment, no matter how it is spun. The Eagles expected the brothers Andrews to dominate on the right side of their line together for years.
For now, neither one is in the starting lineup.
Ok, so Abiamiri is finally healthy and plays well...then gets hurt again.
Andrews2 is being rotated in and out. Who the farg rotates OG's?!?
it's not that one guard is bad, it's that 3 are so good!!
Shhhhh. Don't question the genius of Reid. Don't you ever!
Awesome, Andrews.
Abiamiri scored the first TD of the season....he can take the rest of it off.
I will heed the great call, sarge.
Quote from: SunMo on September 18, 2009, 02:22:10 PM
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just because
I don't remember that one... but I bet Bush does.
So, now than Candybrain Andrews is done, Contract Andrews will pack it in for another season.
Super. Bowl.
Quote from: davidstvz on September 18, 2009, 04:08:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 18, 2009, 02:22:10 PM
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just because
I don't remember that one... but I bet Bush does.
Big Fan....It was only a Playoff game Dook!
pretty sure hes joking
let's hope he was just joking.
I might remember it vaguely, but it's not like a kept a special place in my heart for it. You have to remember that's not the only time Bush has fumbled and the Bears game the following week is burned much more brightly into my memory. I hope they straggle into the playoffs this year and have to face us in the dome.
The Saints are not making the playoffs.
At the very worst, the Saints straggle in as a wild card. To confidently think they won't make the playoffs is pretty crazy imo (or badly informed). We have a lot of depth this year and fewer injuries (you look up an injury report from this time last year). Not to mention two coaches known for being great play callers on offense and defense.
ok now im begging
STOP SAYING WE OUR AND US
the wild card spots are likely coming out of the east and north.
If you insist! Here's a good preview for Sunday... now I know the Eagles won't make as many mistakes as the Lions did, but you only have to give Brees one open man out of about 5 or 6 targets on any given play. And of course, the Eagles better respect Mike Bell or he will run the ball successfully.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d812b8d20/WK-2-Playbook-Saints-passing-attack (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d812b8d20/WK-2-Playbook-Saints-passing-attack)
RE: Wildcard:
I'd say you have 3 possibilities and only two slots. Here are you division champs and wildcard contenders obviously:
Vikings Green Bay
Giants Cowboys
Falcons Saints
Honestly, I'm not ready to give a division crown or wild card to any of those teams yet except the Saints (and that's just because I'm a fan no doubt). And I'll believe the Falcons have another great year when I see it. I think last year all the coin flips went their way.
Quote from: davidstvz on September 18, 2009, 08:22:57 PM
I'd say you have 3 possibilities and only two slots. Here are you division champs and wildcard contenders obviously:
Vikings Green Bay
Giants Cowboys
Falcons Saints
you forgot the west champs and there are only 2 wild card spots.
edit: misunderstood the post the first time i read it. i see that you said only 2 wc spots and were listing the 3 teams you think will compete for them. no need to include the west winner since it's an irrelevant division anyway.
When Sheldon hit Mr. Overrated I though he spit his teeth out of his mouth...no bullshtein
thank god there are only like four saints fans
Lol Bunkley and Patterson are going to eat Mike Bell's babies on Sunday.
Quote from: davidstvz on September 18, 2009, 04:08:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 18, 2009, 02:22:10 PM
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just because
I don't remember that one... but I bet Bush does.
judging from the way he was crawling on all fours after that hit, he might not.
We'll trade Sheldon Brown for Brees, though (and throw in cobb).
wit cobb.......
Birds 42
Aint 0
thats right.
geaux eagles
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Quote from: davidstvz on September 18, 2009, 08:22:57 PM
If you insist! Here's a good preview for Sunday... now I know the Eagles won't make as many mistakes as the Lions did, but you only have to give Brees one open man out of about 5 or 6 targets on any given play. And of course, the Eagles better respect Mike Bell or he will run the ball successfully.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d812b8d20/WK-2-Playbook-Saints-passing-attack (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d812b8d20/WK-2-Playbook-Saints-passing-attack)
RE: Wildcard:
I'd say you have 3 possibilities and only two slots. Here are you division champs and wildcard contenders obviously:
Vikings Green Bay
Giants Cowboys
Falcons Saints
Honestly, I'm not ready to give a division crown or wild card to any of those teams yet except the Saints (and that's just because I'm a fan no doubt). And I'll believe the Falcons have another great year when I see it. I think last year all the coin flips went their way.
The Saints didn't make the playoffs last year. So far this year, they have cloberred the Lions.
Super bowl!
Waking up at 8 AM to get to the link and help the boss set up. I hate the no bottle policy....opening cans and pouring them into cups sucks. Either way, it'll be my first Eagles home opener, and I'll be getting paid to be there. Can't really beat that.
Too bad Kevin farging Kolb is the starting QB.
An odd feeling came over me today...I actually think these guys have a shot to win. Obviously several things must happen for this to be reality...
1. Disrupt Brees and don't let him set his feet. One of the reasons I started to think the Birds have a shot was NO's record outside of Loooosiana last year (2-6) and Brees' stats outside of the dome (14 TDs & 12 INTs).
2. Establish Westbrook and McCoy early. Run left often, let Peters and Cole assert themselves and have Weaver play a lot of snaps.
3. Reid and Marty need to have Kolb in game management mode. No tricky shtein. No complicated shtein.
4. Kolb needs to take what is given to him and get the ball out quick. Please change the batteries in the clock inside his head so he knows when pressure should be there and have it get the ball out.
Eagles - 23
Saints - 17
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2009, 01:34:44 AM
An odd feeling came over me today...I actually think these guys have a shot to win.
I, for one, am shocked. SHOCKED!
Swami picked the Birds to win too. Of course the Eagles have a shot - any given Sunday and all that bullshtein. The reality is, though, that the Eagles really can't win this, or any, game with Kolb as the QB.
But I do like your road stat of NO
I hope the Eagles run more than usual, and if Garcia was starting, I'd think they would, but I worry Reid is going to try to prove he made the right move in drafting Kolb.
If the Eagles do somehow win, it will be because of some unbelievably lucky plays by Westbrook or Jackson
farging game starts at 10am on the left coast. stupid westerners.
maybe you should move back east where games start a reasonable time. and dont give me this wife/kids/work bullshtein excuse. theres somethings more important than that. like football. you Hoyda.
The Saints were a last place team last year. Their offense is sick but overall they are a mediocre club. So of course it's not impossible for the Birds to win this game without McNabb. Just makes it a hell of a lot more unlikely.
GF, I think we need to add "spits on babies" to the tailgating forum description...
http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122863
QuoteI moved up to the Lehigh Valley 6 months ago, and have been missing home with a passion. I was able to get a ticket for the game in Philly, and I'm not going to turn it down. I told my staff that I was going down to the game with all my Saints gear on me and the car. They have been trying to talk me out of saying that the fans are horrible down there. One of my servers even said that a group of men spit on her baby for wearing a NY Giants jersey. Does anyone else have any issues or stories to tell about the fans in Philly? I cant wait for tomorrow to come!!!!!
QuoteFH, please watch your back. These people have thrown snowballs at Santa Claus!
Trust me, I know. I have lived in Jersey all my life. Heard too many stories. Been to one game in Philly...
See recent post here: http://saintsreport.com/forums/showt...ghlight=iggles
Dude, find some fellow Whodats and hang with them. and DO NOT leave your car decorated in black and gold. They will throw batteries at your car with YOU in it. and be ready to be insulted all day long. They will try to push your buttons.
Hopefully, most of them will be gone halfway thru the 4th quarter when the game is out of reach for them. Just be smart and be safe. Good luck!
QuoteI'm not trying to be a tough guy or anything, but I'm damn proud to be a saints fan. I've got my car decked out, and I've got my gameday apparel i always wear every game. If I get hit, yelled at, thrown at, or any of the unmentionable, I won't care. I've been to so many games where all of us have been top notch fans even when we leave the dome in defeat. karma will win this game for us!!! I have never felt this confident going into a game before in my entire life. God Bless every single member of the who dat nation!!
Today WILL be a day we compare other games to....
Geaux Saints and Who Dat!!!!
What number does this Karma guy wear?!?
Idiot.
Karma got suspsended for two weeks for his late hit on Dogma last week.
does karma take steroids too?
HGH
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2009, 02:59:15 AM
GF, I think we need to add "spits on babies" to the tailgating forum description...
http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122863
QuoteI moved up to the Lehigh Valley 6 months ago, and have been missing home with a passion. I was able to get a ticket for the game in Philly, and I'm not going to turn it down. I told my staff that I was going down to the game with all my Saints gear on me and the car. They have been trying to talk me out of saying that the fans are horrible down there. One of my servers even said that a group of men spit on her baby for wearing a NY Giants jersey. Does anyone else have any issues or stories to tell about the fans in Philly? I cant wait for tomorrow to come!!!
QuoteFH, please watch your back. These people have thrown snowballs at Santa Claus!
Trust me, I know. I have lived in Jersey all my life. Heard too many stories. Been to one game in Philly...
See recent post here: http://saintsreport.com/forums/showt...ghlight=iggles
Dude, find some fellow Whodats and hang with them. and DO NOT leave your car decorated in black and gold. They will throw batteries at your car with YOU in it. and be ready to be insulted all day long. They will try to push your buttons.
Hopefully, most of them will be gone halfway thru the 4th quarter when the game is out of reach for them. Just be smart and be safe. Good luck!
QuoteI'm not trying to be a tough guy or anything, but I'm damn proud to be a saints fan. I've got my car decked out, and I've got my gameday apparel i always wear every game. If I get hit, yelled at, thrown at, or any of the unmentionable, I won't care. I've been to so many games where all of us have been top notch fans even when we leave the dome in defeat. karma will win this game for us! I have never felt this confident going into a game before in my entire life. God Bless every single member of the who dat nation!!
Today WILL be a day we compare other games to....
Geaux Saints and Who Dat!!
What number does this Karma guy wear?!?
Idiot.
Did anyone tell this kook that it's only the second game of the year? I think fans at the Linc will be to in shock to react to this guy all "decked out" as I believe there are only three Saints fans outside the LA state border.
And two of them probably live in Houston now, after being relocated.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 01:50:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2009, 01:34:44 AM
An odd feeling came over me today...I actually think these guys have a shot to win.
I, for one, am shocked. SHOCKED!
Haha. For real. Phreak you are ridiculous and I love you for it. An odd feeling came over you... HA.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 20, 2009, 09:16:19 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 01:50:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2009, 01:34:44 AM
An odd feeling came over me today...I actually think these guys have a shot to win.
I, for one, am shocked. SHOCKED!
Haha. For real. Phreak you are ridiculous and I love you for it. An odd feeling came over you... HA.
I didn't think they could win, but I saw the light yesterday. The homer light.
Kevin Kolb. Kevin farging Kolb. You do the math.
Saints - more
Eagles - less
Don't like this match up with our current starting QB.
Defense will keep us in it but they have too much firepower.
Saints 24
Eagles 13
Considering that Korn Kolb can't throw the ball over 30 yds. in the face of a 10 mph. wind, I don't think the Eagles have much of a chance. Last week he heaved one to Jackson that DJ outran, and had to slow up so much that he ended up playing defender. Only chance the Eagles have is to run, run, and run some more.
I think if Kolb throws more than 17-18 times, the Birds loose. They've got the line, the FB, and runners to pound the ball all day. BWest and Shady should both have over 15 carries.
They won't do any of it, Kolb will throw 25+ times, and have minimum 2 picks and maybe 200 yards passing. The sunny side (I'm hoping) is that if they loose, which I am pretty sure they will, Kolb is so horrid he doesn't last the rest of the season on the team. Get it over with.
Alright, game day finally. Action instead of words... just one hour to go! Good luck to both teams (particularly in avoiding injuries). Who dat!
McNabb officially out.
QB1: Kolb
QB2: Garcia
QB3: Westbrook/Jackson
I'd put Westbrook #1 over Kolb...
That didn't take long...
lol @ munson fetching people beer. birds keep this up, his fingers will fall off from popping open so many cans.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 20, 2009, 01:09:25 PM
That didn't take long...
That went as expected (and as the Carolina opening drive went last week). This Eagles drive will be the real indicator of what kind of day we are in for.
kolb/maclin hof hookups.
lol @ kolb lined up at wr
Holy shtein
That's a good way to start.
get yo popcorn ready
kolb >>>> brees
Who needs McNabb?
Jesus. I'm not ready to say that Kolb is better than I thought twenty minutes ago or anything, but that was a farging beautiful pass......and in stride (note to McNabb).
At any rate, the Saints will have to respect Kolb's arm now, which should open up all kinds of short field shtein against this crummy D. All signals are go for a shootout.
COLE TRAIN. Huge hit.
Killa Cole!!!!
ouch
TRENT!
Nice hold!
So McDermott takes one drive to solve offenses?
3 and out. nice job.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 20, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
So McDermott takes one drive to solve offenses?
works for me!!
Clemmons with the retarded foul.
nice penatly. dick
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 20, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
So McDermott takes one drive to solve offenses?
If that's the deal, it's all good.
I like this non-traditional offense. It is a good way to utilize all this speed the offense has especially with McNabb out obviously.
Throw it away = win
how the hell do you illegal shift on a farging punt?
2 stupid penalties so far.
Awesome penalties.
Any links to a good feed? The one I used to use apparently died...
Is this shtein streaming anywhere goddammit?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 01:31:22 PM
how the hell do you illegal shift on a farging punt?
Seriously.
NC where are you watching? They die sometimes but usually come back...
Brutal.
aaaaaaand of course, Rocca shanks the re-kick.
great farging punt
What a wasted punt.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 20, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
Is this shtein streaming anywhere goddammit?
it's streaming to my tv from the sunday ticket.
I hate you.
you don't really mean that.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 20, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
Is this shtein streaming anywhere goddammit?
www.channelsurfing.net
Scroll down the page.
Love seeing Chris farging Gocong getting blown up on a block by Robert Meachum
nice play by mikell
bunkley gettign some good pressure
Jason saves the TD.
way to clamp down on d. hold em to a fg
Nice stop!
Defense was confused... luckily Brees missed a wide open guy in the end zone.
nice job giving up only 3pts.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 20, 2009, 01:40:23 PM
Defense was confused... luckily Brees missed a wide open guy in the end zone.
looked like he had to rush the throw because of pressure up the middle.
lol @ kicking oob
Trickery. Nice job throwing it away...
WTF, is this fargin backyard ball
that play was ghey. maybe if mcnabb or vick are in there it does something. kolb looked like he was running with bricks on his feet.
Kolb sucks.
we need a sustained drive to give the defense a fargin break
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 20, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
Is this shtein streaming anywhere goddammit?
it's streaming to my tv from the sunday ticket.
Word up my man, its a beautiful thing.
Are they that afraid to blitz even on 3rd and 12?! shtein!
we need up the middle pressure, Brees is just steping up while the ends blow past.
JORDAN!!!!
AKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM
nice lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng drive, chew up some clock.
nice play by celek.
that's the westbrook i be lookin 4
Michael who?
They definitely have something they are trying to exploit with the Wildcat. Looked like a real fresh BWest on that run.
What...THE HELL... was that?
That was the most farged up formation ever.
Shady's got to hold on to the damn ball...
wow, nice play by Kolb
thats a fargin fumble refs :boom
that's the only time you'll ever hear boos for the ref blowing a fumble dead.
Sending a 175lb WR up the middle? BRILLIANT!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 02:00:49 PM
that's the only time you'll ever hear boos for the ref blowing a fumble dead.
yep, :-D
this is the kind of drive we needed ;D
Brent Celek is the man. farg LJ Smith.
tom selleck ftw
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 20, 2009, 01:59:23 PM
That was the most farged up formation ever.
I think that was the A-11 offense. I think Boise State ran it against Oregon.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-11_offense
I heart Celek.
Mr. 3rd down.
I've given up trying to find a feed that isn't going to cut out every second, so I'm listening to the radio stream this week. Can't see anything, but I couldn't see anything anyway.
Holy ish Kolb be slinging
Shocked to see Avant move the chains. SHOCKED.
70 balls here he comes.
kolb is looking very impressive in the face of the blitz. he's gotten rid of the ball very quickly and accurately so far.
Kolb doesn't have McNabb's ability, especially after a play falls apart, but I gotta say that overall the offense isn't skipping a beat with Kolb in there. Big Red has opened up the playbook with some crazy shtein, I guess this is a preview of what we're going to see with Vick.
Who the hell is this Kevin Kolb guy, and why haven't I seen him before?
Sure is nice to see a TE that doesn't stop, drop & roll or flop like a dying fish out of water.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
I've given up trying to find a feed that isn't going to cut out every second, so I'm listening to the radio stream this week. Can't see anything, but I couldn't see anything anyway.
Come on over man, got a few friends over watching the game. the crib is about 45 miles southwest of Rockford il.
Link to the radio feed?
You might want to adjust to that fat boy, the last three plays theyve done the same fargin thing.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 20, 2009, 02:05:33 PM
Kolb doesn't have McNabb's ability, especially after a play falls apart, but I gotta say that overall the offense isn't skipping a beat with Kolb in there. Big Red has opened up the playbook with some crazy shtein, I guess this is a preview of what we're going to see with Vick.
I'm thinking Andy figured they were going to lose anyway and just went nuts with the playbook.
carrot top is friggin huge. wonder if he can play mlb
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 20, 2009, 02:07:03 PM
Link to the radio feed?
http://player.streamtheworld.com/liveplayer.php?CALLSIGN=WMGMFM&playnextauto=true#Main
Gave up on the video too...ugh.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 20, 2009, 02:05:33 PM
Kolb doesn't have McNabb's ability, especially after a play falls apart, but I gotta say that overall the offense isn't skipping a beat with Kolb in there. Big Red has opened up the playbook with some crazy shtein, I guess this is a preview of what we're going to see with Vick.
He's supporting Kolb with the playcalling... calling some crazy plays, trying to keep the Saints D off balance. He won't call this crazy ish when McNabb comes back.
Celek is a fargin beast!
Jesus. Celek is beastin'. Got them evil eyes.
unlike lj, when celek fights for extra yards, he holds onto the football
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
Wow... phew!
10-10.
Is it wrong for me to have a man crush on Celek?
that was close. first dumb pass kolb's thrown today. can't try and float one like that in the endzone
flag baby, come on! personal foul please!
thats the right call.
Boooooo!!!!!
running into the kicker looks like the right call.
Good long drive, just what the defense needed.
I think Reid could get in some trouble after this game, pretty sure that weird A-11 formation is illegal in the NFL:
QuoteThe offense is not currently legal in the NFL[11]. The main problem is the league's rules concerning the required jersey numbers of players at different positions. Players who usually play at positions that are usually ineligible to receive a pass must declare themselves as eligible receivers to the referee if they will be lining up at an eligible position in a formation. The referee then announces their eligibility before the play, negating the surprise factor of not knowing which players may go out for a pass. The Emory & Henry formation and two-quarterback system are both legal, though they are rarely used.[12]
Don't take points off the board...
damn!! fall on the ball!!
finally pressure!!
Well... the Eagles should get the ball back with 2 mins left.
3rd and 24... and they give up 22. Jeezus.
they go for it?
gave up too many yards on that 3rd down, but stopped them just short of the 1st. would have been nice to have them punting from inside the 20 thought
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
they go for it?
i doubt it. not in a tie game on their own side of the 50. if it's short, they risk giving up a fg at the least and then the eagles get the ball to start the 2nd half.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on September 20, 2009, 02:13:24 PM
I think Reid could get in some trouble after this game, pretty sure that weird A-11 formation is illegal in the NFL:
QuoteThe offense is not currently legal in the NFL[11]. The main problem is the league's rules concerning the required jersey numbers of players at different positions. Players who usually play at positions that are usually ineligible to receive a pass must declare themselves as eligible receivers to the referee if they will be lining up at an eligible position in a formation. The referee then announces their eligibility before the play, negating the surprise factor of not knowing which players may go out for a pass. The Emory & Henry formation and two-quarterback system are both legal, though they are rarely used.[12]
That formation was not the A-11. Looked like Emory & Henry, as the players on the line were linemen.
Block in the back. Dammit!
X 2. Clemons and Weaver.
stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid!!!!!!!!
Clemmons stupidity again.
stupid decision to catch the punt. stupid penalty.
Jesus Christ! 5 flags on one punt return. :boom
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 02:21:12 PM
stupid decision to catch the punt. stupid penalty.
Let the ball go into the endzone. That had disaster written all over it.
great 1 and 10 from inside the 5. YAY!
The Saints should get the ball back with good field position. Super.
Gotta convert this, now...
djax showing off his football iq on that one.
Ugly throw there on third down.
fargin Brilliant idiots!!!!!!!!
kolb doing his best mcnabb impression throwing behind jackson
did Jackson drop that or was it a bad pass?
A pass to stop the clock again? Genius!
nice punt and coverage.
nice punt coverage and punt
Quote from: Don Ho on September 20, 2009, 02:24:52 PM
did Jackson drop that or was it a bad pass?
bad pass. it was behind him.
God, I hate our 2 minute offense....
how was that not holding. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Ouch.
So they'll be going in to halftime down 17-10.
Goo.
Way to go fat ass! Take the fargin wind out of your team and stadium. Jesus what a fargin moron.
Did the Saints even break a sweat on that drive?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:26:04 PM
how was that not holding. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
yeah, that was terrible.
and they show andy yelling at the refs :-D hey fat ass you set that shtein up with your dumb ass play clalling
Desean.. Kolb.. Andy Reid.. and a terrible defense combined for a free 7 points.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:26:57 PM
Way to go fat ass! Take the fargin wind out of your team and stadium. Jesus what a fargin moron.
i'm as anti-reid as anyone but i won't put this last minute or so on him. it starts with jackson fielding that punt. his playcalling was fine and kolb missed a wide open jackson who had plenty of room to run for the first.
then the saints right tackle gets away with murder on the big play to bush.
he had hands to the face and a hold on his back with the ref looking right at it. :boom
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 20, 2009, 02:26:01 PM
God, I hate our 2 minute offense....
wait till you see our 37 second offense
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 02:29:50 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:26:57 PM
Way to go fat ass! Take the fargin wind out of your team and stadium. Jesus what a fargin moron.
i'm as anti-reid as anyone but i won't put this last minute or so on him. it starts with jackson fielding that punt. his playcalling was fine and kolb missed a wide open jackson who had plenty of room to run for the first.
then the saints right tackle gets away with murder on the big play to bush.
Bingo. And now the Eagles are creeping back into FG range.
Don't farg up points here...
nice play
Let's see if they have enough faith in Kolb to take endzone shots with him (and let's see if he deserves that faith).
So even if Kolb shteins the bed in the second half, which I fully expect him to do, we can look forward to a week of Trade McNabb talk.
Happy with a FG here.
nice drive. got them in position to take a shot at the endzone. at least they get a fg out of it. kolb looked very good on that drive.
How bad are the Saints to let this fargin' bum throw all over them? I mean, seriously.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
So even if Kolb shteins the bed in the second half, which I fully expect him to do, we can look forward to a week of Trade McNabb talk.
how is that different than any other week?
nice drive by Kolb, and nice job by Reid getting the drive right and crowd back into it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
So even if Kolb shteins the bed in the second half, which I fully expect him to do, we can look forward to a week of Trade McNabb talk.
how is that different than any other week?
This week they'll talk about how awesome Kolb is after playing against a terrible defense.
Did I really just see the Eagles run a successful two minute drill?
Quarterback controversy!! oggmzzzzz
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 02:34:30 PM
How bad are the Saints to let this fargin' bum throw all over them? I mean, seriously.
it seems to me, that for the most part, the recievers are wide the farg open. haven't really seen any passes from kolb into tight coverage that would fall under the great pass category. he's made some nice throws in the face of the blitz but he's still getting the ball to open recievers.
either the saints can't cover for ish, the recievers are legit threats to get open now or reid is calling a great game.
you decide.
The receivers are good, but not that good.
Your miserable attitude is not refreshing.
You're mean when you're drunk.
Correction, I mean when I'm hungover.
Drink more.
Eagles technically winning the game thanks to that blown hold call on the Saints last drive so I'm satisfied at the half. Of course they are losing on the scoreboard, but honestly, when you know your team should be ahead even if it isn't official, it still is just as good.
Like when I paraded down broad street alone after losing in the Superbowl when I found out the Patriots cheated. It felt just as good as actually winning one.
Drink less.
Come the farg on man.,
farg. I am going to go get some coffee. Son of a bitch.
That should just about wrap this one up.
Deflating beginning to the second half.
at least throw one to L. Moore. I need some fantasy help.
On the plus side, they'll get a chance to work out those return problems real soon.
Way to farging avoid contact on that TD.
Wasted timeout.
Was that farging Asante whiffing again? Good god.
Whoever just whiffed on that tackle needs to be fargin benched and why would you fargin Chllange that.
new coordinator, same crappy tackling.
14 of 43 in challenges? holy ish, someone take the red flag away from reid.
Reid is 14 of 43 with the red flag.
ooops 14 of 44, dipshtein might want to fire whoever is giving him advice?
does this mean we wont have a useless Timeout called now in the 3rd qtr?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:54:06 PM
Reid is 14 of 43 with the red flag.
ooops 14 of 44, dipshtein might want to fire whoever is giving him advice?
His dietitian?
maybe if someone laces the flag with chocolate before the game, reid will be more hesitant to throw it and more likely to eat it.
problem solved.
That was Macho Harris on the whiff.
We can't even blame these fargups on Kolb. That's got to be the worst part.
OK now it's getting ugly.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 02:57:04 PM
We can't even blame these fargups on Kolb. That's got to be the worst part.
Well there you go.
see ya. Going to watch the Phils game.
yay, there is the andy and Kolb we know
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on September 20, 2009, 02:55:45 PM
That was Macho Harris on the whiff.
i'm sure dawkins would have whiffed too. ::)
[gf]no, he would have tried stripping the ball and failed. [/gf]
Oh. That was a god awful pass.
There's the Kolb we all know and love.
they have got to hold them to 3, have to.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on September 20, 2009, 02:55:45 PM
That was Macho Harris on the whiff.
i'm sure dawkins would have whiffed too. ::)
[gf]no, he would have tried stripping the ball and failed. [/gf]
No, he would have snapped his own neck trying to spear the guy.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
they have got to hold them to 3, have to.
Why? This game is over.
game over
farging turnovers.
i'm going to go beat my g/f. be back at post game.
god dammit, so thats what a real fb looks like.
In other happy news, the Foreskins can't score a TD against the Rams, and might lose.
Hit her once for me.
So what's next for the blooper reel? I'm thinking Kolb sack and fumble in the endzone.
Farg me, Eagles can't even come close to holdin' the Saints offense.
special teams is a farging joke.
Look at where NO is starting its drives compared to where the Eagles are. Pathetic.
Let me guess Andy, this is all on you, right?
they put the "special" in special teams. seriously. on road trips they need to ride a short bus to and from the games.
Kolb's short throws look worse than his long ones.
more awful than george bush
Nice to see Kolb coming back to earth.
Oh man, I can't believe they're booing Kolb!
Bottom is starting to drop out on Kolb. How many QBs in the league could have dropped that ball in front of Westbrook?
come on Andy, where's the wild and crazy side we saw in the first half? the wildcat, the A-11 or whatever that was. Kolb is falling apart, fast and Andy's answer is to throw deep on second and six from the 5 fargin yard line. Real nice a hole
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on September 20, 2009, 03:10:04 PM
Bottom is starting to drop out on Kolb. How many QBs in the league could have dropped that ball in front of Westbrook?
at least he hit westbrook, Dmac would have bounce passed it to him.
Which will happen first? Brees hits 300 yards passing, or Kolb hits 201?
You gotta be kidding me with that catch.
at least the camera crew just gave a nice pic of some cheerleader booty.
we threw everyone at the line and he had plenty of time :-D
jesus christ brees is out of his mind
He's got skill oozing out of that horrible brown mark on his face.
McDermott has zero answers at this point.
I can't help but wonder if the score would only be 28-13 if Stewie were out there.
another third down conversion ::)
we have 8 yards this qtr.
3rd down? i feel another td coming here. i know a stretch
Holy crap :o we stopped them Kold.
ochocinco just did a lambeau leap!! :-D
nice return icehole. still doesn't make up for the fumble.
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Kold.
end yourself.
lol. that's kold
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Kold.
end yourself.
LOL, I've always said it, always will. So suck it.
avant is farging pimp.
FG time?
1st and Goal. Shotgun RB draw. :boom :boom :boom
why, fargin why?
Weaver just farged up Westbrook's career 158.3 passer rating.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
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Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 03:18:36 PM
Kold.
end yourself.
LOL, I've always said it, always will. So suck it.
Don't you mean "
We've always said it"?
that was three fargin horrible calls in a row. :boom
Avant... gotta love him.
great farging catch by avant!
Avant the Baby Jesus.
nice freakin catch.
Avant is four times closer to his 70 reception mark than he was last week. That's major progress.
As long as he doesn't have holes in his hands.
somewhere in texas, phreak just convinced himself the eagles will pull this comeback off
i need to take a crazy dump and that challenge just farged me out of a commerical break.
How many passes will it take Brees to march down the field and score? I say five.
Oh snap, a fumble!
Holy shtein if this stands.....
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 03:32:57 PM
i need to take a crazy dump and that challenge just farged me out of a commerical break.
Turn the sound up and leave the door open.
That was the right call, but it would have been sweet if it went the Birds way.
I'm changing my guess to six passes now.
Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2009, 03:32:14 PM
somewhere in texas, phreak just convinced himself the eagles will pull this comeback off
You don't have a TV in the crapper?
down by 14 and the crowd is still in it. Nice!!
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
down by 14 and the crowd is still in it. Nice!!
They're clearly suffering heat stroke. They think Kolb can pull off a three touchdown come-from-behind win.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on September 20, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2009, 03:32:14 PM
somewhere in texas, phreak just convinced himself the eagles will pull this comeback off
You don't have a TV in the crapper?
you suck at quoting.
i forgot though, that if i use the crapper in my bedroom bathroom and keep the door open that i have a clear view to the bedroom tv.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2009, 03:39:52 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
down by 14 and the crowd is still in it. Nice!!
They're clearly suffering heat stroke. They think Kolb can pull off a three touchdown come-from-behind win.
:-D, the saints are running the clock down already.
DeSean got snatched up...
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 03:41:18 PM
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Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
down by 14 and the crowd is still in it. Nice!!
They're clearly suffering heat stroke. They think Kolb can pull off a three touchdown come-from-behind win.
:-D, the saints are running the clock down already.
With the way they were throwing around challenges, I figured they'd want to air it out for at least ten more minutes.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 03:40:04 PM
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Quote from: MDS on September 20, 2009, 03:32:14 PM
somewhere in texas, phreak just convinced himself the eagles will pull this comeback off
You don't have a TV in the crapper?
you suck at quoting.
i forgot though, that if i use the crapper in my bedroom bathroom and keep the door open that i have a clear view to the bedroom tv.
No. I was talking to MDS about Phreak and a Texas Chainsaw Crapper.
You could use a fleshpop Butkus pep talk.
Terrible series there.
:-\
Can we add Rocca to the list of failed experiments yet? He's been god awful.
That punt might finally get Rocca cut.
Why are they checking out Westbrook?
great westbrook is on the bench with his shoe off.
Because he has a nice bubble?
Oh great Samuel is injured too
yay asante is hurt now.
nm.
Kolb has basically nothing to do with why the Eagles lost this game. The defense and special teams have been terrible.
Had special teams not been completely brain dead, this game would have been a frustratingly close loss instead of the yearly blowout.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 20, 2009, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 20, 2009, 03:53:56 PM
My 4th quarter just got a lot better. Been watching the last few minutes with Eric Allen. Even he said Kolb sucks.
Maybe, but he has basically nothing to do with why the Eagles lost this game. The defense and special teams have been terrible.
his pick could not have come at a worse time.
yeah, kolb did 100x better than any of us thought he would. he made some mistakes but no more or less than any other qb in the league typically makes during the course of a game.
stupid penalties
terrible special teams
terrible defense
when you have all that in a game, it wouldn't really matter who the qb was today.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 04:03:04 PM
yeah, kolb did 100x better than any of us thought he would. he made some mistakes but no more or less than any other qb in the league typically makes during the course of a game.
stupid penalties
terrible special teams
terrible defense
when you have all that in a game, it wouldn't really matter who the qb was today.
Yeah and that's disconcerting. I think a lot of us had this chalked up as a loss due to Kolb, but I don't really see this game playing out all that differently with McNabb in there.
wtf? how was the illegal formation? they had 7 on the line.
Kolb has definitely earned another start if McNabb can't go next week. That scares the shtein out of me.
i had this chalked up as a loss because i don't think the defense is anything like what it showed last week. jake delhomme has a habit of making opposing defenses look good.
come on.
The Saints are developing a habit of making quarterbacks look good.
smart play by N.O.
Pam Oliver pretending she's never seen a vibrating contraption before.
300 yard game for Kolb. Jesus Christ.
LOL the sideline reporter just said "they have been treating westbrooks ankle with some kind of vibrating contraption that i've never seen before". Sure you haven't Ms. Lady!!
lol int returned for a td
Holy issh man, come on.
AIDS.
Awesome, the Eagles will get the ball back!
Cant wait to hear the gravel voiced fat ass take all the blame on this one.
he needs to get 400yds.
Kolb might still hit 400 yards. That'll be great.
a time out? thats bush league.
who the farg called the timeout? i'll seriously laugh if someone gets hurt.
I love the crowd booing at the timeout there.
another int. real nice fat boy.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 20, 2009, 04:23:27 PM
who the farg called the timeout? i'll seriously laugh if someone gets hurt.
fat boy did.
So, trade McNabb?
Same first downs, Eagles have more yards. But the points.... :boom
Well, the game went down as I expected. Philly's D kept it close in the first half, and the Saints blew the game open in the second (thanks to turnovers). Kolb played much better than I expected and the Saints D played maybe just a hair worse than I expected (looked better than last year though).
Farg on the post game now. "We didn't do very well". "Kold will start next week if McNabb isn't ready" A reporter asked if they will bring in a punter to challenge Rocca, Reid said "we'll see".
Kolb looked good 'till that last int, what the farg was he thinking throwing into double coverage like that?? Also, imo, not only did the special teams and D look terrible, the friggen' offensive line had some major break downs. Guys were coming in untouched at Kolb. It's a wonder he looked as good as he did. Actually I was impressed with the way he got off a few of those completions when he was staring defenders right in the face.
Kolb has changed my opinion of him, but still, Eagles could have had friggen' Joe Montana at qb and still would have lost.
This game was a tale of two halves. You can't turn the ball over deep in your own territory two times in a row against an offense like the Saints. They actually played o.k. game went kind of how I expected though. Kolb had a decent game, it would have been completely different with McNabb in there.
absolutely pathetic effort by the defense, especially on 3rd down. the corners were awful and the tight ends ran free all day. the offense wasn't awful, but it wasn't good enough to win either. special teams farging the defense in the ass all day didn't help things.
Kolb sucks.
I don't give a shtein how many yards he had. If anyone's opinion changed for the better for him today, well...you suck too for being stupid.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 20, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
Kolb sucks.
I don't give a shtein how many yards he had. If anyone's opinion changed for the better for him today, well...you suck too for being stupid.
I don't think anyone was saying he looks like a #1 QB or anything. He showed he wasn't a complete waste. To me he went from "get him the farg off the team" to "I might wait a bit more til I think he needs to get the farg off team".
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 20, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
I don't give a shtein how many yards he had. If anyone's opinion changed for the better for him today, well...you suck too for being stupid.
worst analysis ever.
don't get me wrong, i don't think kolb will ever be a top tier qb in the nfl but if nothing else, he showed the potential to be a servicable backup. he'll never justify being a #2 pick though and should still probably get the gas face.
but anyone pinning this loss on kolb is either blinded by hatred of him, an idiot or a combo of both.
Not pinning it on him at all. Did I type that without my knowledge?
Nothing he did today made me think he was any better than I did before the game. That's all I'm saying.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 20, 2009, 06:39:21 PM
Nothing he did today made me think he was any better than I did before the game. That's all I'm saying.
Pretty sure you and everyone else on the board (me included) were sure he was going to be the reason the Birds lost. For the most part, he played as well as a person could expect for a guy getting his first start after only a week of playing with the first team. Do I think the dude could have done more? Maybe. Could you make the argument that he was the only guy that kept them in the game for awhile? Absolutely.
The Kolb hatred is ridiculous, is he a good quarterback? No. But he is not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. For a Qb drafted in the 2nd round he is alright. There aren't many franchise guys taken in round 2. He had a decent performance today nothing more, nothing less.
no, he is the worst human ever to touch a football and deserves to die...DUH
Quote from: NC_Eagle on September 20, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
Farg on the post game now. "We didn't do very well". "Kold will start next week if McNabb isn't ready" A reporter asked if they will bring in a punter to challenge Rocca, Reid said "we'll see".
Rocca punted like shtein today. Giving a potent offense like the Saints a short field is sure death. Brees looked like he was salivating all day.
Terrible.
1. Special Teams
2. Penalties
3. Defense
4. Turnovers
All in all a solid day for farg ups. They lost the game in the last two minutes of the first half and the two possessions into the second half.
Blantant holding/hands to the face call on Cole missed
Ellis Hobbs coughing it up
Dumb farg throwing an out route to a LB with ONE career INT.
Give the Saints a short field and goodnight Irene. shtein, those clowns can go 99yds in 2 plays...putting them inside the 35 two times ina row is a locked up 14 points.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 11:18:41 PM
Good to see you guys giving the defense even a half of a shot after this past game. ::)
44 points? Come on.
I'd give this defense a shot if McDougle was still around.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 20, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
Kolb sucks.
I don't give a shtein how many yards he had. If anyone's opinion changed for the better for him today, well...you suck too for being stupid.
That is the most ridiculous statement you've ever made.
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
no, he is the worst human ever to touch a football and deserves to die...DUH
Yeah, he's not much of a qb, so he deserves to die. ::)
you're awesome at sarcasm
Yeah, I prolly' deserve to die more so than Kolb does.
Play shorebird off, keyboard cat.
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Well that sucked about as much as I thought it would.
Highlight of the game for me was walking down broad street back to the car at about 5:45 and having a white BMW stop right in the middle of Broad street...two guys who were walking behind me ran over to it and hopped in the back seat....Then I notice the driver is DeSean Jackson. Hah.
Nothing else worth mentioning about this slop.
cobb is horrendous....touchdown at the end of the half was game over
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2009, 08:42:13 PM
wildcat is horrendous....touchdown at the end of the half was game over
fixed
Quote from: Munson on September 20, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Well that sucked about as much as I thought it would.
Highlight of the game for me was walking down broad street back to the car at about 5:45 and having a white BMW stop right in the middle of Broad street...two guys who were walking behind me ran over to it and hopped in the back seat....Then I notice the driver is DeSean Jackson. Hah.
Nothing else worth mentioning about this slop.
why couldnt it run you over
I wasn't wearing my juden star.
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2009, 08:43:48 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2009, 08:42:13 PM
wildcat is horrendous....touchdown at the end of the half was game over
fixed
they ran the wildcat a thousand times cause they know cobb blows
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on September 20, 2009, 08:30:06 PM
Play shorebird off, keyboard cat.
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Lost me, but that ain't hard to do.
I still can't believe these fools gave up 31 farging points in the second half.
QuoteAfter the game, a New Orleans reporter asked veteran safety Darren Sharper if he'd seen that many formations since his days in Pop Warner.
"That's what it reminded us of," Sharper said.
Atta boy, Andy.
Oh, and prior to the Westbrook injury, why the hell were they ignoring him?
QuoteSpecial teams played a major factor in the Eagles' 48-22 loss to the Saints Sunday.
To see just how many mistakes were made by this unit, I went back and re-watched every special teams play. Here's a rundown, error by error:
Mishap 1 - Sean Jones, in his first action with the Eagles, is called for a holding penalty, which sets the Eagles back to their own 15 yard line. To Jones' credit, he did make a nice tackle on the Eagles' opening kickoff.
Mishap 2 - DeSean Jackson calls for a fair catch, but (surprise) a flag on the play. This one on Chris Clemons for unnecessary roughness. A 15-yard personal foul -- half the distance to the goal, giving the Eagles' offense the ball at their own 12 yard line. So on the Eagles' first two possessions they started at their own 15 and their own 12. Not exactly helping out a QB making his first career start.
Mishap 3 - Still in the first quarter, mind you, the Eagles are called for an illegal shift on a punt. Joselio Hanson and Quintin Mikell are the players targeted by the official. Sav Rocca's first punt was a good one, a 57-yarder, which would have given the Saints possession at their own 30 yard line. But he was asked to re-kick. And the second one was ugly. It went just 34 yards and gave New Orleans the ball at its own 47. A huge penalty. A difference of 17 yards. The Saints ended up with a field goal on the ensuing drive.
Mishap 4 - I wrote this one down while watching the game. Not a smart play by Jackson. With the score tied at 10, the Eagles were set to receive the punt with 1:57 left in the first half. Jackson backpedaled and fielded it at his own 4 yard line, an obvious no-no. If he lets it go, maybe the Saints down the ball inside the 5. But way more likely, the ball bounces into the end zone and the offense starts at its own 20. Jackson's teammates, undoubtedly surprised at his decision, delivered two blocks in the back. One on Clemons (mentioned above) and the other on Leonard Weaver. The Eagles' offense ended up beginning the drive at its own 3 yard line and went three-and-out. The Saints wisely used their timeouts and got another shot from their own 46 with 1:20 left. It took Brees all of two plays to get in the end zone from there.
Mishap 5 - I wrote about this one right after the game, and it was a momentum-shifter. Ellis Hobbs fumbled the opening kickoff at the start of the second half. It was a good play by Saints rookie Malcolm Jenkins, but it goes without saying that you have to do a better job of protecting the football.
Mishap 6 - It was just comical at this point. With the Eagles trailing, 31-13, in the third quarter, Tracy White was called for holding on a kickoff return. Half the distance to the goal (a commonly used term Sunday). By the way, White is on the roster because of his skills on special teams. That should tell you what kind of day it was for this unit.
Mishap 7 - Hobbs took a third-quarter kickoff 63 yards. Why is this a mishap, you ask? Because his celebration afterwards was so over the top it was beyond ridiculous. I'm generally in favor of players expressing themselves and celebrating, but time and place, people. The Eagles were down 34-13, and Hobbs' earlier fumble changed the complexion of the game. Hobbs pointed to himself and jumped around, but it looked like his teammates knew better. They offered high fives, but nothing more. And if you listen to the fans, it's as if they don't know exactly how to react. Most likely sharing the same reaction as me.
Mishap 8 - Rocca's worst punt of the day drew boos from the frustrated crowd at the Linc. Any time the camera follows the punt and then stops around midfield, you know it's probably not a very good one. This punt went just 26 yards, out of bounds to the Saints' 48 yard line.
So there you have it. Overall six penalties (one declined), a turnover, a costly decision not to let the ball go in the end zone, an ill-advised celebration and two terrible punts.
Unbelievable that they were able to fit so much into one game.
Keep in mind that the Saints' special teams were terrible in Week 1 against the Lions. They allowed a big punt return, a big kickoff return, fumbled a punt and had a field goal blocked. I really thought the Eagles had an edge here going in.
Special teams coach Ted Daisher seemed to really be taking this unit in the right direction during training camp, but it's clear he has a lot of work to do.
The Sav Rocca Experiment should be close to ending.
Inconsistent.
The sports bar I go to gets about 50+ Eagles fans a week. Mostly the same crowd every week for the last three seasons I have been going there. There was a new guy in there today and at the end of the game he decided it would be funny to dump a beer over the head of an old man Cowboy fan. This Cowboy fan is the husband of an Eagles fan who has been going there for years.
I didn't see it happen, but I heard the glass break and the guy do an Eagle chant and run out of the joint. I didn't know he dumped the beer at the time, I was watching Kolb give away points, but a lot of guys followed the guy outside and were about to get into it with him.
He was wasted and his girlfriend ended up dragging him down the street away from the bar.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2009, 12:04:51 PM
Well, we all think the worst for this upcoming week. Even with McNabb this was going to be a tough game. The silver-lining here is that the Saints defense can give it up. The black cloud is that Kevin Kolb would have trouble exploiting a solid Division I defense.
Oh well maybe next time. You should find this interesting though:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPkz6-J1Qe4
Put down the crawfish and gumbo and link it right.
Of course this has been said a million times and no one wants to hear it, esp since the D and ST lost the game more so, but running the ball from the start and continuously would have at least kept the D off the field somewhat. Can't have that...Andy has gotta prove that his boy Kolb can do it.
I think Andy would have splooged right there on the field had Kolb hit 400 yards passing in a loss.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2009, 08:42:13 PM
cobb is horrendous....touchdown at the end of the half was game over
I thought going into the half at 17-13 the Eagles still had a fairly decent chance especially since they got the ball back. When Hobbs fumbled, it was game pretty much over. When Kobb threw the pick on the next drive, it was the proverbial nail in the coffin.
What was the run/pass ratio for the first half? Seemed like the Eagles were probably passing more than they should have but I was still surprised to see Kobb with 51 attempts. He did better than I thought, but still don't want to see the guy playing unless the Eagles are up by at least 2 TDs; dook's an interception machine
If you are getting killed, you might as well get Kolb as much work as possible.
Oh yeah, I forgot...
Brent Celek is a DSL havin' beast.
I thought Kolb looked very solid in the first half. He wasn't bad in the second half until special teams mistakes forced him to play from behind.
As was well covered on this thread all week leading up to kickoff, if this game came down to Kolb having to win it with his arm and trying to match the Saints TD for TD the birds were screwed. Defense had to hold the Saints to less than 24 to have a chance. Being outscored 31 - 9 in the second half is just pathetic.
My god, that list of ST miscues is ridiculous.
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 20, 2009, 11:27:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2009, 08:42:13 PM
cobb is horrendous....touchdown at the end of the half was game over
I thought going into the half at 17-13 the Eagles still had a fairly decent chance especially since they got the ball back. When Hobbs fumbled, it was game pretty much over. When Kobb threw the pick on the next drive, it was the proverbial nail in the coffin.
What was the run/pass ratio for the first half? Seemed like the Eagles were probably passing more than they should have but I was still surprised to see Kobb with 51 attempts. He did better than I thought, but still don't want to see the guy playing unless the Eagles are up by at least 2 TDs; dook's an interception machine
This was how I felt. Kolb wasn't as bad as expected, in fact drove the ball down the field on several drives. Missed a few times, unfortunately at key points in the game, but it was his first start. He probably doesn't deserve the vitriol he's getting here.
Save that for the horrific LB corp and the STs. Christ, we'll be seing a lot of TEs getting big games this year, by the looks of it.
Props to the Saints. Birds look average... They will win some good ones and lose some zesty ones and be sniffing for Wildcard scraps. Andrews1, Andrews2, McRibs, zesty teams= Championship
They threw the ball 51 times and ran barely over 20 attempts. 1st game failure. 2nd is lack of sustaining drives, led to the defense being on the field all game and winded. This is because of the pass happy offense. Even with a sub-par QB in, they still can't stop passing.
Actually the were doing a fairly good job of running a balanced offense in the first half. But when you end up being down 18 points in a matter of minutes it is going to kill your game plan.
Quote from: mussa on September 21, 2009, 07:11:20 PM
They threw the ball 51 times and ran barely over 20 attempts. 1st game failure. 2nd is lack of sustaining drives, led to the defense being on the field all game and winded. This is because of the pass happy offense. Even with a sub-par QB in, they still can't stop passing.
Like DMF said; in the first half they were running.
But when you come out of the locker room and you're down 31-13 before people get back from taking a piss, you have to throw it to catch up
I don't think they were running it even in the first half. There were probably only 6 legitimate runs and about another 4 out of the wildcat which I guess counts, but still probably doesn't put it at 50% run/pass ratio. This is just by memory so I'm probably completely wrong
Wasnt there like a 3rd and 6 where reid ran a qb option to the outside with Kolb at qb? I thought that was pretty cute.
Yeah, having the least athletic QB running outside to be killed is cute, I guess.
Make putting Garcia in there easier though.
QuoteI was at that game yesterday. Great seats. 10 rows back on the Saints side. I came into the game not sure what to expect with Kolb back there and the O-Line mess. Other than Shockey the Saints are a likeable team and not one to get upset about a loss to. Until it happened that is.
I could not believe what I saw Payton do and say to the fans towards the end of the game. When the Saints scored to make it 41-21 he came back close to the fans and started waiving them away yelling "Go Home - the beating is over. Go home! Then he put his left hand up with 4 fingers up and the right with 1. he literally did this for about 10 minutes yelling at the fans and the fans yelling back. It pissesd me off to the point that I started yelling back that it's freakin September, Payton. There was actually some large assistant coach holding him back and telling him to stop. I'm sure this got little to no media play. My buddy next to me didn't even see it go down until I started yelling
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
QuoteI was at that game yesterday. Great seats. 10 rows back on the Saints side. I came into the game not sure what to expect with Kolb back there and the O-Line mess. Other than Shockey the Saints are a likeable team and not one to get upset about a loss to. Until it happened that is.
I could not believe what I saw Payton do and say to the fans towards the end of the game. When the Saints scored to make it 41-21 he came back close to the fans and started waiving them away yelling "Go Home - the beating is over. Go home! Then he put his left hand up with 4 fingers up and the right with 1. he literally did this for about 10 minutes yelling at the fans and the fans yelling back. It pissesd me off to the point that I started yelling back that it's freakin September, Payton. There was actually some large assistant coach holding him back and telling him to stop. I'm sure this got little to no media play. My buddy next to me didn't even see it go down until I started yelling
From Dawkins20 on PhilaPhans...
No way this happened. But good try.
No way?
I don't know one way or the other. But I do know that you didn't show your face here last week, but yet here you come talking shtein.
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
So during the game (indicated by the 41 points) he found 10 minutes to taunt the Philly fans and it didn't make it on tv? Payton might be the classiest coach in the league and this post goes against everything we've seen from him since '06. Maybe Rex Ryan, but not Payton sorry.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Actually I was here last week:
Sept 16th
"This is the key for you guys. Most teams haven't been able to stop Brees early. That is why the Saints spent money in the offseason getting value and depth in the secondary. They figure since Brees scores on teams so quickly, we need to focus on stopping the pass first. Though you can't ignore the fact that the run D for the Saints in the preseason and in the first real game has been pretty impressive... even if their opponents aren't rushing world beaters."
I have a hard time believing Payton would do that, and it not being on sportscenter as well. they relish in that shtein.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
LMAO, a whole 4 years
Why didnt you drown?
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
complete and utter bullshtein....in 06 i bought 55 tickets all together for the eagles saints game down there from the saints box office
and of course saints fans dont boo...because they dont give a shtein about the team...i will say they are some of he nicest people ive ever encounted at an away game but they are just there to have fun and party....the final score is completely irrelevant
lsu fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saints "fans"
pro sports dont mean shtein in the south
lol at someone talking smack after the game when they didn't have hair 1 to do it any time before kickoff. what a farging tool.
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Prove they're not the same person!
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
Yeah, like New Orleans is a mecca of pro sports.
If it ain't Mardi Gras, jazz or food you clowns don't give a shtein.
We can make katrina jokes, right?
I prefer to joke about you posting here on a Blackberry.
Yeah! Get 'em phreak.
I'm one of those guys now. It hurts me more than it hurts you. But really not since my city isn't underwater
Neither is mine. My city is Philadelphia.
I'm only here taking Houston's money.
And not posting on a Black Berry while doing it.
Quote from: SunMo on September 22, 2009, 12:48:17 PM
Yeah! Get 'em phreak.
:-D
Are you and Todd BlackBerry Messenger buddies?
I agree with Russell.
blame CF for having an accessible site on a blackberry. am i not supposed to use it?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 22, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
lol at someone talking smack after the game when they didn't have hair 1 to do it any time before kickoff. what a farging tool.
Look up my previous posts I talked plenty here before the game.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 22, 2009, 09:49:39 AM
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
LMAO, a whole 4 years
Why didnt you drown?
Ahhh the classic Katrina rip. Both creative and classy. I guess there is nothing else to say when you go 1-4 against someone and realize that the one thing you thought you had in the bank this season, your defense, is soft. Good luck booing the rest of the season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
complete and utter bullshtein....in 06 i bought 55 tickets all together for the eagles saints game down there from the saints box office
and of course saints fans dont boo...because they dont give a shtein about the team...i will say they are some of he nicest people ive ever encounted at an away game but they are just there to have fun and party....the final score is completely irrelevant
lsu fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saints "fans"
pro sports dont mean shtein in the south
That is absolutely false. The game was sold out after the Monday night opener with the Falcons but good try once again. Let me get this right, the more you care about your team, the more you boo? I learn something new every day. I would rather hang with Saints fans than a bunch of insecure meatheads any day of the week. You fans are the worst in the NFL and it isn't even close.
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
complete and utter bullshtein....in 06 i bought 55 tickets all together for the eagles saints game down there from the saints box office
and of course saints fans dont boo...because they dont give a shtein about the team...i will say they are some of he nicest people ive ever encounted at an away game but they are just there to have fun and party....the final score is completely irrelevant
lsu fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saints "fans"
pro sports dont mean shtein in the south
That is absolutely false. The game was sold out after the Monday night opener with the Falcons but good try once again. Let me get this right, the more you care about your team, the more you boo? I learn something new every day. I would rather hang with Saints fans than a bunch of insecure meatheads any day of the week. You fans are the worst in the NFL and it isn't even close.
Hey fargbag...read this thread.
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=18000.0
It is entitled "NEW ORLEANS ROADIE"
Quoteive been calling for hotels in no and several are booked because of 'philadephia eagle fan groups'
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/EagleFeva/New%20Orleans%20Roadie%202006/PA150072.jpg
He booked a group.
Now beat it, jerkoff.
lol
a fans vs. fans bitchfest. someone get a racists fans in here to make things fun.
I've never been to New Orleans and after Katrina I put the idea of ever going to bed. Place doesn't exist anymore.
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 11:39:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 22, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
lol at someone talking smack after the game when they didn't have hair 1 to do it any time before kickoff. what a farging tool.
Look up my previous posts I talked plenty here before the game.
lol. you have 1 post prior to the game.
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2262;sa=showPosts
Quote from: Saints Win on September 16, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 14, 2009, 05:06:01 PM
This will be a tough one. Only hope is that the D can hold the Saints offense in check, and the Eagles can mount a good run game to keep Brees off the field and run the clock down. If the Eagles fall behind in this one and Reid has to have Kolb throw over 20 passes, it's over.
This is the key for you guys. Most teams haven't been able to stop Brees early. That is why the Saints spent money in the offseason getting value and depth in the secondary. They figure since Brees scores on teams so quickly, we need to focus on stopping the pass first. Though you can't ignore the fact that the run D for the Saints in the preseason and in the first real game has been pretty impressive... even if their opponents aren't rushing world beaters.
coming back after the game and talking smack when you didn't have the balls to do it before hand is weak sauce. now go back the bayou and play with your little voodoo dolls, eat some creole and carry on with your pathetic half french half inbred redneck life.
this thread needs to die
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: Saints Win on September 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2009, 08:43:44 AM
to be fair theres a good chance he wasnt a saints fan last week
Hahaha. This coming from a fan who probably booed his QB after making his second bad throw on the day. You wouldn't know what being a fan is. The Saints have had a waiting list of 60,000 for season tickets for the last 4 years. The city only has 390,000 people and none of them boo their team.
complete and utter bullshtein....in 06 i bought 55 tickets all together for the eagles saints game down there from the saints box office
and of course saints fans dont boo...because they dont give a shtein about the team...i will say they are some of he nicest people ive ever encounted at an away game but they are just there to have fun and party....the final score is completely irrelevant
lsu fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saints "fans"
pro sports dont mean shtein in the south
That is absolutely false. The game was sold out after the Monday night opener with the Falcons but good try once again. Let me get this right, the more you care about your team, the more you boo? I learn something new every day. I would rather hang with Saints fans than a bunch of insecure meatheads any day of the week. You fans are the worst in the NFL and it isn't even close.
call the saints ticket office....ask for RJ and then ask him about havas....then kill your family...then kill yourself
how pathetic do you have to be to lie about games and tickets on the internet...your "fans" and "fanbase" both blow....stick to baton rouge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK9p-PtyniE
love the fact that dude came on here talking shtein. just to watch you guys freak out 3 days later is priceless
i love the city of new orleans and was there when they "lucked out" and got reggie bush and everyone was going crazy. there was a big ad in the paper about how there were still tons of season tickets left. at $5 a game. i'm pretty sure that was only 3 years ago.