The Good:
- Reggie Brown had 6 catches. I'm not sure if it means either he found his hands or the Jets secondary is that bad.
- Curtis is the MAN!...this week.
- Kearse got a sack and didn't limp off the field once.
- Morningwheg must be calling the plays. See below.
- Westbrook carried 20 times for 120 yards and had 6 catches for 36 yards.
- Joselio Hanson and Quentin Mikell continue to play well in the secondary.
The Bad:
- It looks like Wiz's scrambling days are over.
- The way the Jets pushed around the left side of the Iggs D-line early in the game made blood shoot out of my eyes.
- Akers continued his bad streak at the Meadowlands, making only 3 of 5 FG attempts.
- 4 of the Eagles top 5 tacklers today were from the secondary. Gocong and Gaither gotta step up.
I'm not sure if McNabb's scrambling days are over. He's still in the recovery period for the ACL. No doubt he'll never be what he was (he's also past 30 now, which doesn't help), and he may never come close to that.
This year, though, he is nearly Testaverdian.
The first kick that appeared to veer wildly to the right was actually tipped. I thought it was initially but the "crack" broadcasting team never mentioned it or at least I didn't hear them mention it.
The second miss wasn't a bad kick - it looked like it was heading right down the middle before the wind got ahold of it.
Giants Stadium is a shteinhole, though, especially for kickers.
And I agree about Gaither. He's very undisciplined in the middle and over-pursued all day long. He just doesn't appear to have the instincts to be a great Mike. Plus he should have had two interceptions although the one he missed in the end zone would have had to have been a spectacular play if he made it at all.
The play calling was absurd in the fourth quarter, though. Passing twice inside your own 10 yard line with a 10 point lead should get a motherfarger fired. It won't because that's how they roll, but it should.
I thought so at first, too. But TiVo slomo, it wasn't touched. Just a horrible shank.
Quote from: dpierce on October 14, 2007, 08:31:33 PM
The Bad:
- The way the Jets pushed around the left side of the Iggs D-line early in the game made blood shoot out of my eyes.
I giggled.
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- Akers continued his bad streak at the Meadowlands, making only 3 of 5 FG attempts.
Akers has been on the verge of outright awfulness lately. Put him out to pasture.
the bad begins and ends with andy reid being brain dead
The bad was the Red zone offense. If they can convert a TD just once this game is out of reach.
D has played well this season.
Patterson needs to stop being owned.
but mikey was a first round success?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 14, 2007, 10:59:55 PM
but mikey was a first round success?
they extended him 27 years, he must be
prolly the least excited about a win in a long long time.
esp cause i now chicago will beat us next week. their defense will find their form against us and benson will go nuts on us.
try to use us a little more
ok...and hester will return 3 on us.
clever
He used bold and shtein, yo.
i know, he told me.
Why are you using the quote feature?
i was hoping youd say "he used the bold feature and shtein, yo"
I would have but I didn't want to waste all my street cred on the internet.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 14, 2007, 11:36:56 PM
i was hoping youd say "he used the quote feature and shtein, yo"
Eagles open as a 5-point favorite vs the Bears
eagles should not be favored by 5 vs anyone
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2007, 12:22:57 AM
eagles should not be favored by 5 vs anyone
For real. Did the bookies actually watch the game yesterday? The Eagles are a bunch of bungling retards.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 15, 2007, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2007, 12:22:57 AM
eagles should not be favored by 5 vs anyone
For real. Did the bookies actually watch the game yesterday? The Eagles are a bunch of bungling retards.
It isn't the bookies that are morons, it is the betters. Are you really shocked that the general public are generally stupid?
You want observations? Here's one:
A team coached by Brad Childress called 43 running plays and 23 passes yesterday.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 15, 2007, 09:12:54 AM
You want observations? Here's one:
A team coached by Brad Childress called 43 running plays and 23 passes yesterday.
If I were coaching Adrian Peterson, I would never pass the ball. Ever.
Eagles should of had 3 TD's yesterday in the redzone. Two perfect passes, to Curtis and Avant, that were perfectly defended. 1 Westy run called back cause the Kid mauled someone.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2007, 09:21:26 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 15, 2007, 09:12:54 AM
You want observations? Here's one:
A team coached by Brad Childress called 43 running plays and 23 passes yesterday.
If I were coaching Adrian Peterson, I would never pass the ball. Ever.
Word life.
Quote from: mussa on October 15, 2007, 09:21:57 AM1 Westy run called back cause the Kid mauled someone.
That was called a hold but it was more the defender had his body knifed towards the running lane and Andrews just tossed him to the ground.
Beginning of the season the second half of the schedule looked like the hard part, now its looking fairly easy. Of course unless the offense can start converting some TDs they'll make it difficult.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2007, 10:07:16 AM
Beginning of the season the second half of the schedule looked like the hard part, now its looking fairly easy.
funny how that happens just about every year
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 15, 2007, 09:12:54 AM
You want observations? Here's one:
A team coached by Brad Childress called 43 running plays and 23 passes yesterday.
When Tarvaris Jackson is your QB, you have no choice
He had a pretty throw to Troy Williamson, though. Probably because Adrian Peterson gave him throwing lessons.
I hope he can throw the ball as a friggin starter, but to rely on him for a balanced attack just aint happening....especially against the Bears
Quote from: rjs246 on October 15, 2007, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 15, 2007, 12:22:57 AM
eagles should not be favored by 5 vs anyone
For real. Did the bookies actually watch the game yesterday? The Eagles are a bunch of bungling retards.
they probably watched the bears game too and saw brian griese at qb and a defense that let adrian petterson repeatedly ram them in the ass.
Did they happen to notice that Griese has two burners to throw to and two tight ends that are capable of anally abusing the eagles linebackers in the middle of the field? Because I did.
you two want to be alone with all this talk of anal abuse and ramming?
Quote from: rjs246 on October 15, 2007, 12:12:14 PM
Did they happen to notice that Griese has two burners to throw to and two tight ends that are capable of anally abusing the eagles linebackers in the middle of the field? Because I did.
no but they know that about half the population is gonna say "the eagles suck no way they cover that" and the other is going to say "the bears suck no way they cover that." and thus, vegas wins.
The Bears were actually able to run the ball a bit on the Minnesota D, which scares me.
Which is why McNabb will have 47 pass attempts compared to Westbrook's 12 rushing attempts vs the Vikes.
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2007, 12:13:56 PM
you two want to be alone with all this talk of anal abuse and ramming?
Yes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2007, 12:23:11 PM
The Bears were actually able to run the ball a bit on the Minnesota D, which scares me.
and the fact that Thomas Jones was able to go over 100 yds for the first time this year against the Eagles should scare you as well for next game
Quote from: rjs246 on October 15, 2007, 12:35:55 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2007, 12:13:56 PM
you two want to be alone with all this talk of anal abuse and ramming?
Yes.
tough shtein...
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What, you're going to wash dishes while MDS and rjs make man-love?
Quote from: reese125 on October 15, 2007, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2007, 12:23:11 PM
The Bears were actually able to run the ball a bit on the Minnesota D, which scares me.
and the fact that Thomas Jones was able to go over 100 yds for the first time this year against the Eagles should scare you as well for next game
Second time, smart stuff.
yeah but only his first against the eagles.
Good point.
Yeah, but those 100+ rushing yards buy Jones were an 'invisible 100+ rushing yards'. At no point during the game was I afraid of their rushing offense...or passing offense for that matter. Over the course of the game he managed to get over 100+, but it wasn't Tiki-esque.
How insightful.
Quote from: hbionic on October 15, 2007, 02:44:50 PM
Yeah, but those 100+ rushing yards buy Jones were an 'invisible 100+ rushing yards'. At no point during the game was I afraid of their rushing offense...or passing offense for that matter. Over the course of the game he managed to get over 100+, but it wasn't Tiki-esque.
except in the first quarter when they marched the farg down the field
I continue to observe that the Eagles just aren't very good.
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2007, 02:48:42 PM
Quote from: hbionic on October 15, 2007, 02:44:50 PM
Yeah, but those 100+ rushing yards buy Jones were an 'invisible 100+ rushing yards'. At no point during the game was I afraid of their rushing offense...or passing offense for that matter. Over the course of the game he managed to get over 100+, but it wasn't Tiki-esque.
except in the first quarter when they marched the farg down the field
I wasn't at the bar yet to watch that part. :paranoid
obviously
Quote from: Zanshin on October 15, 2007, 02:52:16 PM
I continue to observe that the Eagles just aren't very good.
I believe that we can lock this thread now.
In the first qtr yesterday, Jones carried the ball 8 times for 82 yards (10.25 ypc). For the rest of the game he had 16 carries for 48 yards (3.0 ypc). So after getting burned early by the run, especially after Jones' first four carries (36, 11, 12, 10 yds), they pretty much clamped down on him after that.
Also, Eagles runningbacks had 26 total carries. Westy had 20, Buck had 4 and Hunt had 2. I'd like to see Buck get at least 7 or 8 carries a game but would like to keep Westy right around 20.
But really, other than the lame play action call on 1st down to open the game and the call to pass the ball from the endzone in the 4th qtr when McNabb got intercepted, I do have to give Reid a little kudos for drawing up what was a pretty good game plan. He made the right decisions most of the day and had a few of the plays been better executed by the players then the Eagles win that game in a laugher.
This is one of the few times in the last 4 years that I really have no major criticism for Reid after a game. And that really pisses me off.
I've just got a sickening feeling watching this team this year. (relax, I'm not in the mood to elaborate.) One of the few moments that made me remember I had a pulse was Westbrook making Vilma fall down go boom.
I blame the first series running on bye week rust. :paranoid
I don't know why they use Buck so little.
If they don't trust him, then why is he on the roster? If he can play, then why not give him some carries?
He seems to be a decent RB to me. Westbrook does not need to run every 3 yard inside hand-off, or block every blitzing LB.
Over the last 2 years, Buck has become one of my favorite players. And that says alot because I wasn't a big fan of his when the Eagles drafted him and especially when he kept hurting his knees. But I am seriously in awe of how he's come back from like 3 major knee surgeries and is able to run as strong as he does, is as fast as he is and can still make cuts the way he does. I probably comment on it during every game thread but I can't help it. It just shows the type of determination dude has.
Westbrook is one of only four NFL RBs averaging more than 100 rushing yards per game. And unlike the other three guys, he has over 250 yards receiving on top of that. He seems like a threat to break out any play, so I can't really complain about him stealing touches from Buck.
Agreed with QB. But I think everyone here feels the same way...Don't take carries away from Westbrook and give them to Buck...just drop McNabb back 4 or 5 times less a game and give Buckhalter the ball. But that would skew the 80/20 pass-run ratio too much for the Ginger's liking.
Buck and Westbrook are having fine years, O-line is performing well in run blocking. Receivers look like shtein, starting Tight End is hurt, and McNabb's been dropped more frequently than Carr in Houston. So naturally Andy will keep airing it out.
The game was boring.
I expected them to lose the whole time.
Curtis' TD was real close to being called back for a delay of game, I was shocked they did not blow it dead.
Eric Mangini and Chad Pennington are colossal dumbasses. If Reid did what those two yokels did at the end we'd be murdering him. Who the hell goes for the sneak on 3rd and 1 and then throws a low percentage fade on 4th?
The red-zone offense was atrocious.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 15, 2007, 10:50:04 PM
The game was boring.
I expected them to lose the whole time.
Curtis' TD was real close to being called back for a delay of game, I was shocked they did not blow it dead.
Eric Mangini and Chad Pennington are colossal dumbasses. If Reid did what those two yokels did at the end we'd be murdering him. Who the hell goes for the sneak on 3rd and 1 and then throws a low percentage fade on 4th?
The red-zone offense was atrocious.
well the sneak had been working in the game and i remember it really being less than a yard. i dont see that as a bad call but the 4rth down play was so dumb even reid wouldnt try it. i mean reid would do a pass to the flats to tapeh or something.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 15, 2007, 11:56:14 PMbut the 4rth down play was so dumb even reid wouldnt try it. i mean reid would do a pass to the flats to tapeh or something.
Visions of Josh Parry come to mind. Ugh.
Quote from: Munson on October 15, 2007, 08:31:41 PM
Agreed with QB. But I think everyone here feels the same way...Don't take carries away from Westbrook and give them to Buck...just drop McNabb back 4 or 5 times less a game and give Buckhalter the ball. But that would skew the 80/20 pass-run ratio too much for the Ginger's liking.
huh?
if they run the ball and its to buckhalter then thats a carry taken from westbrook
im not saying to not run buck but id rather westbrook get another five carries than buck
I know this is venturing into broken record territory here but I'd rather the run/pass ratio be inverted for a change.
They passed the ball 35 times and ran it 26 times (plus two for Donovan - although I think both of those were busted pass plays). If they run the ball 35 times and give Westbrook & Buck those extra nine carries, how much time does that take off the clock? Moreover, Westbrook looked like he was poised to bust one every damn he touched the ball, yet Reid/Morningdouche kept calling pass plays.
It's just inexplicable to me that with a weapon like Westbrook and an offensive line that absolutely mauls the defense they wouldn't take advantage of that.
the only reason the ratio was that close in the jets game is cause they were leading the entire second half against a pathetic team
in the first half it was 21-10 pass...how about trying to establish a running game early and then by the time the second half comes around the defense is worn down...
more importantly how bout running to set up the pass....this is especially important now with mcnabb not being able to move like he used to...it was one thing to pass all the time and allow the defense to pin their ears back when you had a qb that was a threat to bust a huge run at anytime...but now you have a pocket passer and it crucial to use things like the run and play action to protect him
The only way that ratio switches is when Kolb takes over the helm his first years.
Other than that, McNabb is still Superman in Reids eyes and he feels his best chance is in the air. Old habits are hard to break, especially when your as stubborn as Reid
Pounding Westbrook back to back, multiple times like a LT or LJ will never be in the cards.
Did anyone else literally "LOL" at the first play of the game?
Play-action long pass! That'll fix their wagon, Andy!
Andy trying to play 1st play triple reverse psychology with the opposing coaches is showing brutal signs of decline
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 16, 2007, 09:07:43 AM
Did anyone else literally "LOL" at the first play of the game?
Play-action long pass! That'll fix their wagon, Andy!
The actual amazing thing about that is how often it actually works. They hit on the better part of 35-40% of those openers, I'd guess. And what idiot isn't looking for that at this point?
yeah a play action on your first play could work if your known to run the ball consistently.
i love how even when westbrook gets a big run...the very next play is always a play action pass. its as if he thinks that just one run out of 4-5 plays is enough to fool the defense into playing the run.
even i dont play that dumb in madden.
tuesdays on WIP they play a merrill reese moment all day....basically a 30 second recap of the past weeks game by merrill....
one of his observations from todays moment was that "donovan mcnabb was out there throwing passes that most qb's can only dream of making"
"nooo....why does it keep going into the ground? :'( "
wakes up in a cold sweat
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 16, 2007, 11:43:35 AM
tuesdays on WIP they play a merrill reese moment all day....basically a 30 second recap of the past weeks game by merrill....
one of his observations from todays moment was that "donovan mcnabb was out there throwing passes that most qb's can only dream of making"
Ha. I heard that too and laughed, but I think the old coot refered to them as "thorwing strikes", or "throwing ropes". He's losing it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 16, 2007, 09:01:16 AM
more importantly how bout running to set up the pass....
Apparently the Eagles use play-action pass to set up the running game:-D :-D :-D
Stockton/Baldinger this week
so sad 9 years of head coaching still cant get you a brain. I think Reid is a grad of Head Coaching by Norv Turner
This is my fargin observation [url][http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3066210/url] Yep we don't need any help at wideout, everything's fine, remain calm.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 16, 2007, 09:21:04 PM
This is my fargin observation http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3066210 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3066210) Yep we don't need any help at wideout, everything's fine, remain calm.
fixed
Thanks, I was outraged I tell ya outraged!!
But, but, that's a 2nd round pick. Andy can get a QB of the future with that!
map for Chicago game (http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/2007-07-FOX2.html)
Stockton and Baldinger? Oh. my. Jesus.
Harry Kalas and Jim Fassel doing the game for national radio :-D
Philly games:
1 cbs- ravens/bills (go derrick mason)
1 fox- giants/49ers (what no skins? nfl hates "us")
Considering the way this season's going, do you honestly think trading a 2nd round pick for CHRIS CHAMBERS would have been an intelligent personnel move? Seriously? You pretty much have to be kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.
how is minn vs dallas a better game than chicago vs philly?
i mean i know it is but still...oh well time for sopcast.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 17, 2007, 07:23:59 AM
how is minn vs dallas a better game than chicago vs philly?
i mean i know it is but still...oh well time for sopcast.
Dallas is the best team in the NFC and Minn has Adrian Peterson who's coming off an unreal performance. I'd almost rather watch that than the pathetic display of football we're going to see Sunday
Dallas has an atrocious defense and them being the best team in the NFC is like calling someone the world's tallest midget.
dallas minny will be a much better game true...but thats besides the point...dallas could play minnesota-duluth in hockey and still get better ratings than chicago philly
and yes the eagles could have used chambers and yes he would have made difference in a pathetic conference....a two might be a little high so im not gonna be pissed they didnt do it at the same time i would have liked the move had they made it
Getting Chris Chambers would not really have made a difference, IMO. Plus it would have given Andy & Marty another reason to throw more. Give the QB time and use the run and these WRs are good enough to win.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 15, 2007, 10:50:04 PM
Curtis' TD was real close to being called back for a delay of game, I was shocked they did not blow it dead.
As it turns out, the only touchdown scored by the Eagles in their Week Six win over the Jets should have been blown dead before the play even began.
Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer noted on Monday that the 75-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Donovan McNabb to receiver Kevin Curtis was the result of a play that began after the clock struck zero.
So the third-and-eight effort from the Philly 25 should have been a third-and-thirteen from the Eagles' 20.
Later, the officials failed to throw a flag for delay of game. That time, however, the play that was allowed to proceed resulted in an interception of McNabb.
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chambers would have helped precisely because all the eagles do is throw...if youre gonna throw that much and we all know andy is then you have to have better wr's
if they had gotten chambers he automatically becomes the teams best wr....im not saying he wins them a superbowl or anything but he puts them significantly closer to dallas....the eagles defense has been damn good...but the offense needs to put up way more pts....chambers would have helped there
i also def thought it was delay of game but if you watch nfl games that happens all the time...ive been notcing it for years and always just chalked it up as some kind of delay in the tv broadcast vs what the clock shows or something like that...i cant really explain it but i see at least once a week....a play clock hit zero before a snap and its not called
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 17, 2007, 07:37:28 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 17, 2007, 07:23:59 AM
how is minn vs dallas a better game than chicago vs philly?
i mean i know it is but still...oh well time for sopcast.
Dallas is the best team in the NFC and Minn has Adrian Peterson who's coming off an unreal performance. I'd almost rather watch that than the pathetic display of football we're going to see Sunday
i know thats why i said "i mean i know it is"...i mean the hype train around adrian peterson is just amazing. i love watching the guy but some have already claimed him to be the best RB in the league or best pure runner they have ever seen. something like this is said every season about a diff RB/player. i really hope minn pulls off a upset here...their defense is not horrible and if they keep running all game they could pull it out.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 17, 2007, 09:06:40 AM
chambers would have helped precisely because all the eagles do is throw...if youre gonna throw that much and we all know andy is then you have to have better wr's
if they had gotten chambers he automatically becomes the teams best wr....im not saying he wins them a superbowl or anything but he puts them significantly closer to dallas....the eagles defense has been damn good...but the offense needs to put up way more pts....chambers would have helped there
i also def thought it was delay of game but if you watch nfl games that happens all the time...ive been notcing it for years and always just chalked it up as some kind of delay in the tv broadcast vs what the clock shows or something like that...i cant really explain it but i see at least once a week....a play clock hit zero before a snap and its not called
I hear ya, and I would have welcomed the addition. But I just don't think it would have made a huge difference. This offense can score when they are clicking. And for whatever reason (Andy + Donovan + no protection) they are not.
And we know what happens they acquire #1 WR's; they stay a year and roll out. It was great watching the Eagles last two top WRs battle it out on Sunday in Dallas, wasn't it?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 17, 2007, 09:06:40 AM
chambers would have helped precisely because all the eagles do is throw...if youre gonna throw that much and we all know andy is then you have to have better wr's
if they had gotten chambers he automatically becomes the teams best wr....im not saying he wins them a superbowl or anything but he puts them significantly closer to dallas....the eagles defense has been damn good...but the offense needs to put up way more pts....chambers would have helped there
i also def thought it was delay of game but if you watch nfl games that happens all the time...ive been notcing it for years and always just chalked it up as some kind of delay in the tv broadcast vs what the clock shows or something like that...i cant really explain it but i see at least once a week....a play clock hit zero before a snap and its not called
yeah usually i notice they count "zero" as a second. if you let that zero second tick off then usually they call the delay of game.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 17, 2007, 08:41:13 AM
and yes the eagles could have used chambers and yes he would have made difference in a pathetic conference....a two might be a little high so im not gonna be pissed they didnt do it at the same time i would have liked the move had they made it
a 2 is not high for a quality WR especially when that is the teams constant weakness yr in and out. ok one of the constant weakenesses.
im still in shock that all it took for moss was a 4rth round pick. im sure the eagles must have at least for a split second thought about it but this FO prolly considered a 4rth round pick to be too high...forget a 2nd rd pick....they prolly value a 4rth round pick to be wasted on some developmental project player to be more important than getting someone like moss.
to think all those gay stories each week on every pre game show about tom brady and moss getting along and how its a happy marriage could have been mcnabb and moss.
yeah usually i notice they count "zero" as a second. if you let that zero second tick off then usually they call the delay of game.
that makes sense.....never thought of it that way but it has to be the answer...its happens way to often
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 17, 2007, 05:52:21 AM
Considering the way this season's going, do you honestly think trading a 2nd round pick for CHRIS CHAMBERS would have been an intelligent personnel move? Seriously? You pretty much have to be kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.
IMO he is better then any option we have a WR
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 17, 2007, 09:18:21 AM
yeah usually i notice they count "zero" as a second. if you let that zero second tick off then usually they call the delay of game.
that makes sense.....never thought of it that way but it has to be the answer...its happens way to often
That's the way I always understood it. The play clock sits at zero because it doesn't show tenths of a second.
Maybe the officials are instructed to give it "a beat" after the clock hits zero before calling delay of game.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 17, 2007, 05:52:21 AM
Considering the way this season's going, do you honestly think trading a 2nd round pick for CHRIS CHAMBERS would have been an intelligent personnel move? Seriously? You pretty much have to be kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.
Your trying to tell me that you would be bitch if the Eagles got him for a second? Please tell me what receiver you would want coming out of the 2008 draft in the 2nd rd?
This team has squat and will always get squat at WR if they dont do something creative at that position. F the draft. Just because a WR doesnt get you fantasy points FF, doesnt mean he cant contribute to moving the football in the right direction. Chambers is one of the most "targeted" receivers in the league every year, but cant produce enough TD's as a result of an inadequate offense. QB's have been running for their life every other play and the O-line has sucked the past 3 years.
Yeah, I would take hm
Quote from: phillymic2000 on October 17, 2007, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 17, 2007, 05:52:21 AM
Considering the way this season's going, do you honestly think trading a 2nd round pick for CHRIS CHAMBERS would have been an intelligent personnel move? Seriously? You pretty much have to be kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.
IMO he is better then any option we have a WR
Quote from: reese125 on October 17, 2007, 09:47:45 AM
Your trying to tell me that you would be bitch if the Eagles got him for a second? Please tell me what receiver you would want coming out of the 2008 draft in the 2nd rd?
This team has squat and will always get squat at WR if they dont do something creative at that position. F the draft. Just because a WR doesnt get you fantasy points FF, doesnt mean he cant contribute to moving the football in the right direction. Chambers is one of the most "targeted" receivers in the league every year, but cant produce enough TD's as a result of an inadequate offense. QB's have been running for their life every other play and the O-line has sucked the past 3 years.
Yeah, I would take hm
Both of you are unsurprisingly short-sighted. Teams that need help to get over the hump from decent to very good (like the Chargers) make those kinds of deals mid-season. The Eagles will not win a Super Bowl this year with or without Chris Chambers, so why trade away a high pick and pay him big dollars? He'll be 30 by the time the 2008 season rolls around also.
I'm not saying I wouldn't sign the guy as a free agent. He's a good player. But trading for him mid-season makes no sense for the 2007 Eagles. None.
I never said do it mid-season either guy, I was strictly talking in general for a second rd pick. You capitalized CHRIS CHAMBERS like he sucks so bad
He doesn't "suck so bad", but he also doesn't "rule so hard".
hes better than anything the eagles have...which is kinda the point...and even if you think curtis and brown are better hes still light years ahead of a bum like avant
like i said im not gonna go crazy over it...theres no need to...but you cant argue that it wouldnt have elevated them in the nfc...the question is would a 2 have been too much...i think an argument can be made either way
It wouldn't have elevated them for shtein THIS year, which is the only reason a mid-season trade of any sort would make sense.
if you dont think another offensive weapon as good as chambers along with the defense they have showed wouldnt elevate them over teams like the skins green bay 49ers cardinals ect and put them on par with the giants then you must think they they are beyond god awful this year
a few more pts this year and they easily could be 4-1....it doesnt take much in the nfc to make a difference...the conference is laughably bad
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 17, 2007, 11:27:28 AM
then you must think they they are beyond god awful this year
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id take chris chambers for a 2nd no doubt. id take chris chambers, bernard berrian and a receiver like Moss, Chad Johnson or Marvin Harrison to top it off. If your going to build an offense based on passing, get some damn receivers to do it. everyone saw what mcnabb can do once he got a guy like TO. Imagine if McNabb had Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Watson.
Eagles are sad at drafting WRs. They need to fire Dave Culley #1, #2 bring in a real GM not the psuedo-GM like Puppet Heckert and since they will be dumping tons of salary next year with the release of Kearse, Howard, and possibly McNabb there is no reason not to give Kolb a real #1 WR.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on October 17, 2007, 02:28:48 PM
there is no reason not to give Kolb a real #1 WR.
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I agree with FF. This team blows, and even though a slight elevation might get them in the playoffs in the NFC, even the SB.
Been there, done that. I want a trophy for the Birds. They have ZERO chance of that this year. So farg it. Play for a high draft pick and the immediate firing of Fat Ass. He's far too farging stupid to win a SB, so get anyone else.
Stop hoping for Reid to get fired or quit. It's not happening.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 17, 2007, 08:28:00 PM
I agree with FF. This team blows, and even though a slight elevation might get them in the playoffs in the NFC, even the SB.
Been there, done that. I want a trophy for the Birds. They have ZERO chance of that this year. So farg it. Play for a high draft pick and the immediate firing of Fat Ass. He's far too farging stupid to win a SB, so get anyone else.
You do realize that he's not getting fired unless he's caught farging Christina Lurie, right? And even then, its not a guarantee. Lurie and Banner love him. For him to get canned it would probably take 2-3 straight up horrid seasons.
Your best best is to hope he resigns. And then be happy with Marty M., because that's who moves in, buddy.
Hope is all I got left. If I can't hope he'll resign or be fired, I have to hope he dies. Because he ain't winning this team a super bowl. Of course, neither is Marty, but at this point I'm just vindictive.
Ah the good ol Gold Standard of the NFL aka The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 17, 2007, 09:18:21 AM
yeah usually i notice they count "zero" as a second. if you let that zero second tick off then usually they call the delay of game.
that makes sense.....never thought of it that way but it has to be the answer...its happens way to often
Here's how it works: The back judge stares at the stadium play clock. When it reaches zero, he looks at the quarterback. If the ball hasn't been snapped yet, the flag comes out for delay of game.
There is no official "extra second" given; once the clock hits zero, a penalty can be legitimately called. [There is no rounding. A full second ticks before the clock reaches 39, and therefore a full 40 seconds have expired before it reaches 0.] However, the mechanics of the back judge seeing the clock, turning toward the quarterback, and deciding that the ball is not yet snapped takes a little bit of time. It's intentionally done this way in order to err on the side of the offense.
Delays of game are not reviewable, so if you get the ball out before the back judge notices, you're golden.