last pick of the day
running back, Hawaii
Did you have that already typed in?
Don Ho will be sportin' a chubbie now.
And what a pick...
Eagles liked him.
Quote from: King Cole on April 29, 2007, 05:23:29 PM
Eagles liked him.
I figured they would have picked a guy they hated.
What do they do with Hunt and Ilaoa now? Get rid of Buck and Moats for a 1st!
I like this pick a lot.
I wonder if we have to put GF on suicide watch? Maybe they see this guy as a replacement for Tapeh?
DonHo is going to go nuts
goeagles99:
QuoteFormer slot receiver grew into a very good power back. Has very good feet for such a big guy. He's got the body and speed of a FB, but the skills of a RB. Awkward combination. Short, thick build. 5'9, 254. Bowling ball with legs. Good on chip blocks. Runs hard. Will attack defenders. Ran for almost 1700 yds and 20 TDs in his career. Caught 151 passes. More quick than fast. Only ran a 4.77 at his Pro Day.
SUMMARY
Awkward player. Strictly a role player at RB. I don't know if he's good enough as a lead blocker to be a starting FB. Will need to go to a team that uses their RBs creatively. Either a late rounder or UDFA.
Quote from: Dillen on April 29, 2007, 05:24:18 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 29, 2007, 05:23:29 PM
Eagles liked him.
I figured they would have picked a guy they hated.
What do they do with Hunt and Ilaoa now? Get rid of Buck and Moats for a 1st!
lol, you know what I meanz. They visited with him a few times, worked him out.
But 100% Moats is traded or cut by june first now. Also I guess they carry 4 RBs.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2007, 05:25:29 PM
I like this pick a lot.
I wonder if we have to put GF on suicide watch? Maybe they see this guy as a replacement for Tapeh?
DonHo is going to go nuts
That was the first thought that went through my head. Bye bye reno reno bye bye. He had better be working on his order taking skills.
Reno is already gone. He's a UFA ;)
Really? I can't believe the Pats haven't snatched him up yet.
Quote from: Displaced on April 29, 2007, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2007, 05:25:29 PM
I like this pick a lot.
I wonder if we have to put GF on suicide watch? Maybe they see this guy as a replacement for Tapeh?
DonHo is going to go nuts
That was the first thought that went through my head. Bye bye reno reno bye bye. He had better be working on his order taking skills.
RENO IS ALREADY NOT ON THE TEAM.
(Phreak beat me to it.)
when will the birds take an athletic player....its unreal how vanilla their picks are
Ever seen this dude, IGY?
He's pretty athletic for being 245 and only 5'8. He can move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JMq0FLpb9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JMq0FLpb9I)
I mentioned Ilaoa before the draft as a guy I liked in the 6th-7th round. Good pick. My guess is they either carry 4 RBs, or stash him on IR for the year.
Who am I kidding, Buck's gonna be on the IR.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 29, 2007, 05:33:29 PM
RENO IS ALREADY NOT ON THE TEAM.
It's sad he lasted on the team long enough to even reach UFA status. He should have been cut years ago.
I actually liked Ilaoa, but there isnt a need for him with Hunt already drafted. We all know Andy will go back to the 15 runs again until the 9th game when he realizes he needs balance.
how could they pass on Brandon Siler though he was a top inside linebacker prospect and should have went round two or three and fell to seven, they needed to snag him up
best pick of the draft. this guy is awesome
Quote from: mlbsports23 on April 29, 2007, 05:51:55 PM
how could they pass on Brandon Siler though he was a top inside linebacker prospect and should have went round two or three and fell to seven, they needed to snag him up
Keep asking "how could they" and your head will explode.
He looks fun to watch and he doesn't shy away from contact. He could maybe develop into something.
Its sad that I'm most excited about a 7th round pick.
Quote from: Eaglez on April 29, 2007, 06:07:09 PM
He looks fun to watch and he doesn't shy away from contact. He could maybe develop into something.
Its sad that I'm most excited about a 7th round pick.
yeah he really looks like a high energy guy which is a term thrown around a lot but with him you can see it in his play. he likes to take the contact and shed off would be tacklers.
He somewhat reminds me of a shorter and fatter Duce Staley. He seems to have the same running style and similar field vision.
QuoteWill need to go to a team that uses their RBs creatively
Yep that about sums us up.
What i liked seeing was him shedding blockers from good programs. We needed a Samoan/Tongan to replace Reno's spot, he filled that need.
i could watch that highlight film all day :o
Quote from: mussa on April 29, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
i could watch that highlight film all day :o
You only need one hand free to keep clicking the play button.
it's a long run...against a zesty team. WOW!!
Hmm, 5'9"? :-\
Barry Sanders...5'8" 8)
Walter Payton...5'10" :o
Yeah, I went there! :-D
Alright, is he 5'9, 254, or is he 5'8" and 248??
5'8.5, 251
that's the beauty of FF, he doesn't mind taking the easy, obvious, or barely funny ones
Quote from: mussa on April 29, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
i could watch that highlight film all day :o
it helps that they threw in a weird dance sequence in the middle.
oh yeah got me moving.
I like this pick, he reminds me of Bettis (from what I saw on the tape)
Another RB that can catch. They stay true to their mode that's for sure.
another video clip: his Hula Bowl TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESTqKRJiPMw)
Quote from: SunMo on April 29, 2007, 07:21:59 PM
that's the beauty of FF, he doesn't mind taking the easy, obvious, or barely funny ones
I'm kind of like Mrs. SunMo then, I guess. TT
Just read his college page and said he got injured(shoulder) his freshman year. then got injured again (knee) his sophmore year and caused him to miss all of his junior year before coming back to playthe entire year of his senior yr.
is this a thicker bruce perry?
oh a side note, almost all his highlights are shovel passes or screen plays. i like that. he's like jones drew, only heavier.
Quote from: mussa on April 29, 2007, 10:37:44 PM
he's like jones drew, only heavier.
Uh, and significantly slower.
usually that comes with weight ::)
Ok, Don is in the house. So distraught over yesterday we went canoe sailing all day. Just what the doctor ordered.
You folks will love this guy. He spilled the beans a few weeks ago saying the birds, G-Men and Steelers were interested. Guy is a true stud. For his size he can move and he is not a little Hoyda. He will bowl people over. I think being drafted this low will light a fire under the guy and he will come through. He's not westy but he is tough as nails and has deceptive speed. It was exciting watching him every time he carried the ball. He reminds me of Keith Byars. June Jones gave him a real hard time about his weight last year. Publicly buried the guy in the local press. Ilaoa toughed it out and regained his status as the featured back.
Does he compare at all with Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2007, 05:35:59 PM
Ever seen this dude, IGY?
He's pretty athletic for being 245 and only 5'8. He can move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JMq0FLpb9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JMq0FLpb9I)
loved that run near the end against Fresno State where pops those to dudes into Nevada. you can hear the "pop".
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 30, 2007, 12:05:42 AM
Does he compare at all with Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala?
not a bad comparison but I think Ilaoa is a lot more fluid. Ilaoa could actually get outside and kick it up a notch.
Steeler fans loved Fu.
Watching this guy's highlight tape reminded me of Duce.
I like this pick. Mayock called this guy one of his sleepers.
Like he said, he's a "bowling ball", short, powerful runner... good blocker... decent speed. On ST's, nobody will want to farg with him because you can't get under his pads.
In the highlights, you see him getting the ball in space and then making people miss. That's good sign for the Eagles O.
I mean, let's face it. In the 7th round... they're all fliers... this one could definitely pay off.
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 30, 2007, 07:18:47 AM
they're all fliers...
IGY's comin' after you, brother.
That was just for him...
new fan favorite
I call sponsorship!
I don't know RJS, I think we have to give Don Ho first dibbs on this guy, especially now that his boy Mahe is gone.
No.
nah, mussa's all over Nasty Nate.
The guy was a 7th round pick, and built like a fire hydrant. If he doesn't make the team, who cares? Reports are he has good hands, and he's farging huge for 5'8". Worth a 7th.
He's got decent footwork in that long clip...and he's fearless. Me likey.
He might not be as quick, but he reminds me a little of Maurice Drew.
He has good balance too, plus it looks like he has some Polamalu hair which you have to be a fan of.
Quote from: Eaglez on April 29, 2007, 06:07:09 PM
He looks fun to watch and he doesn't shy away from contact. He could maybe develop into something.
Its sad that I'm most excited about a 7th round pick.
I like him a lot. He will probably project as a FB in the NFL, but one you don't have to worry about handing the ball off to. Those "islander's" seem to fare pretty well in the league, and they are very gritty, tough dudes, who play with a chip. His nimbleness and good feet are unusual for a guy his size...kind of a freak, in the mold of a Bam Morris, Natron Means, Jerome Bettis, Jamal Lewis.....guys who had very good feet and deceptive speed. I'm not saying he is fast, but for his size, he sure as hell pulls away from people....he has good game speed. I'd like him as our FB, although they are high on Jason Davis, the kid who broke his hand last year. I think Tapeh is gone, either way.
Actually I underestimated his speed....video highlight of his 60 yard TD run, states he has 4.5 speed at 255 pounds! Now that's a freak....Welcome to the Illadelph, FREAK NASTI! :yay
no way he runs a 4.4....i think he ran a 4.8 at the combine
You are right....I made a mistake. The announcer's claimed him to run a 4.55 Regardless, if you watch the 60 yard run, he was pulling away from DB's....still impressive as hell, and he probably has faster game speed than Hunt. In the Hunt clips, he wasn't even pulling away from LB's, let alone DB's. While this guy may not be a "blue chip" RB in the eyes of scouts, to say he is vanilla and non athletic for his size, is upsurd....not sure what tape you were watching.
hunt ran a 4.68...westbrook runs like a 4.5 and i know hes much faster than ilaoa...also if ilaoa ran that fast he would have been a much higher pick
and fast for or athletic for your size doesnt mean youre fast or athletic
doesnt matter much either way as dook is more than likely not making the team
What about him as FB? I like Tapeh, but this guys built like a fire hydrant.
FB is more of a mindset than anything. Also, the Eagles use a full back maybe 25% of the time.
If this guy likes having the ball in his hands regularly, he's not really a fullback... and certainly has a long road to make the team.
I expect Moats will be gone at some point - probably cut. Westbrook, Buckhalter, and Hunt are basically guaranteed to make the team... and I don't see them carrying any more than 5 RB's.
Ilaoa's practice squad fodder. Which is fine for a 7th rounder.
I think Ilaoa depends on how Buck does this year... but I think he's on the PS at the very least, but I wouldn't be shocked if they gave him a chance. Moats is likely outta here and Tapeh's not been the same since the hip injury.
Ilaoa could possibly make the conversion to a FB. Ritchie was a nice pass catching option out of the backfield during his short tenure here. Ilaoa has good hands as evidenced by his collegiate career. If he can demonstrate that he can be a reliable lead blocker, pick up blitzes, and catch a swing pass every once in a while it could work. In that highlight footage he demonstrated that he doesn't shy away from contact; we'll see what he does during TC.
I would like to see Ilaoa and Westbrook line up in the same backfield. Two pass catching options out of the backfield would be nice. However, as a 7th rounder, we'll see how NFL-ready he is. Still, it is an interesting pick; good "value" for a 7th rounder.
well regardless, we will find out in July. I'll be up at Lehigh to check out all the rooks. I too, would like to see him as the FB who can tote the rock effectively sometimes. If the PS him, I say someone steals him. I had been screaming for the bird's to trade for Michael Turner, who I REALLY think will be a legit #1 RB in the league....till they drafted Hunt and now seem to have too many RB's.
I'd rather see both the rookies and a UDFA make the team over Buckhalter right now. Anyone that might potentially survive the entire season.
Nonsense. Bionic Knees Buck will be fine!
Financially, sure.
i'm going to bump this thread and laugh at all you retards when he doesn't make the team this year
I'll do the same for Barksdale.
rashad is an athletic freak with one of the bigger upsides youll ever see in a player and is at a need position
this guy is a wannabe rb who should be thanking god he even got drafted
now ask yourself whos gonna make the team?
Definitely the dude who's been playing organized ball for under a year.
rashads ceiling
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That makes no sense.
Nate's gonna make the PS...he's gonna show up when buck blows a knee.
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He needs that much shtein for 3 days?!
he's not leaving ;)
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2007, 05:55:50 PM
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aahh right!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2007, 05:55:50 PM
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Nasty with the 48, Ritchie style :yay
I really hope this guy makes the team. A RB of that size is hard to slow down/stop.
Westbrook
Buckhalter
Ilaoa
Hunt at the FB posistion
Those 4 plus...eh maybe Moats if they wanna use a 5th spot in the backfield. Or Tapeh to split time with Hunt at FB. But they'll be using a lot of spots on Oline/Dline, WR, and Secondary this year so I don't see them keepin more then 4 guys at RB/FB this year.
you truly are one of the dumbest people ever on the internet
Whatever you say buddy.
Woe is me for cheerin on the late round draft pick to possibly make an impact. SHAME.
ha............you just said buddy
Yes, yes I did.
And I'll also say again that I hope this little hawaiin farger makes the team. The fact that the Eagles drafted him and Hunt at least give me some hope they'll be running the ball more this year, and will be *gasp* running on 3rd and short situations.
We'll see how he does when they put the pads on. I have a feeling he'll impress though.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I don't like bees.
illoa only makes this team if buck's knee blows up in training camp...again.
Evil sprinkler heads everywhere await Buck at Lehigh... :paranoid
Buck needs to be farging put down. I don't care if it's Ilaoa who takes his spot or some other schmuck, but he needs to go.
Quote from: hunt on May 14, 2007, 09:00:29 AM
illoa only makes this team if buck's knee blows up in training camp...again.
So Ilaoa's a lock then?
Nasty is going to steal Reids sole. Nasty will be the STRTR nxt yr
reid's feet will be killing him!
:-D
Quote from: rjs246 on May 14, 2007, 09:03:13 AM
Buck needs to be farging put down. I don't care if it's Ilaoa who takes his spot or some other schmuck, but he needs to go.
really? I honestly thought he was under utilized last season. He ran the ball well when given the chance.
I agree. I think Ilaoa only makes this team if there is some sort of injury to the top 3 going into the season or if Ilaoa performs well on special teams duties and/or challenges Tapeh for the FB position. If Ilaoa shows glimpses at performing well at the FB position and does well in special teams coverage, then I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles keep 2 deep at the FB position.
Hell, the Eagles kept Mahe purportedly for his special teams abilities. And when a player is a late round pick that player better perform well on STs and be out of a job.
I just like this guy's potential. He seems to have good field vision, good hands, and likes to make contact. If he develops into a good lead blocker, catch a pass out of the backfield, and can tackle and cut off return lanes on special teams, he'll be a decent pick-up.
Quote from: MURP on May 14, 2007, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 14, 2007, 09:03:13 AM
Buck needs to be farging put down. I don't care if it's Ilaoa who takes his spot or some other schmuck, but he needs to go.
really? I honestly thought he was under utilized last season. He ran the ball well when given the chance.
That's part of my point. They won't use him much because he's guaranteed to get hurt. Why keep someone like that on the team?
Well the glimpses Buck has showed when healthy were impressive. When we had the 3 headed monster, he did really good. Had some big runs. We had like a one and a half-headed attack last year. Not nearly enough running plays to either Westy or Buck. Good thing is this year if Buck would go down, I think Hunt will do just fine at 2. Moats or Nasty at 3
Quote from: rjs246 on May 14, 2007, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: MURP on May 14, 2007, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 14, 2007, 09:03:13 AM
Buck needs to be farging put down. I don't care if it's Ilaoa who takes his spot or some other schmuck, but he needs to go.
really? I honestly thought he was under utilized last season. He ran the ball well when given the chance.
That's part of my point. They won't use him much because he's guaranteed to get hurt. Why keep someone like that on the team?
hence the drafing of Kolb. :paranoid
Quote from: hunt on May 14, 2007, 09:00:29 AM
illoa only makes this team if buck's knee blows up in training camp...again.
if?
I like nasty Nate a lot, and as is the case with most of us blue-collar philadelphians, I tend to root for the underdog or the "little guy." All that being said, I like C-Buck. The guy has a huge heart and has proven himself dedicated, by over coming those injuries....MOST RB's would have quit and been sitting home for good. When used, he has always been productive, and he is a VERY good blocker on blitz pick up's. since he just got a new contract, I can't see the birds' cutting him.
I read on the inside some place, that it's very possible the birds keep a combo of 4 backs on the roster. I was once very high on FB Jason Davis. He was impressive up close and in person, as both a blocker and a receiver, as rookie....then he broke his hand. He now reportedly looks out of shape and slow. If Nasty is going to make this team, he will have to show he can be an effective ST'er, and that he can play both backfield positions. He would be the best receiving FB on the roster, for sure...but he would have to prove to be a good lead blocker.
Let's not forget that B-West has also been injury prone, and this could play a role in how many backs they keep around. Personally, I don't care for Moats much. He can't block on blitz pick up's, and doesn't posess the lower body strength to run between the tackles....have you EVER seen an NFL RB who so easily gets tackled and knocked off his feet? I have not! He is good for 2 things only, both of which tip off the opposing defense: When Moats is in the game, it's either a screen pass or an attempt to run the ball to the outside.
While Tapeh is a much better blocking FB than Josh Parry, he is still only average at best. How good could this ground game be with a Lorenzo Neal or *Cough* Former Eagle Fred McCrary lined up in front of B-West? Jason Davis seemed to be that guy, but it sure seems he blew it. For once, it will be nice to see the RB battles in camp. This team COULD BE built to absolutely punish defenses and chew up clock.
At first, I liked the idea of that concept, mostly to keep our smallish defense fresh and off the field for those few extra posessions. (see both Saint losses)...But now that we have increased size on the defensive side of the ball, added TKO, and the Gocong & Bunkley projects seem to be going well, I think this defense could be very, very good. If this defense fails, it is on Jim Johnson this time!
I have been wanting JJ gone for a few year's anyways, as I feel he has not adapted his now ancient and too easy to read, blitz packages.
Will they FINALLY get it after all these years of wasting opportunites? RUN THE FREAKIN BALL! You have a nasty, mammoth O-line, who wants to punish people. To get the ball jammed down you're throat when you know it's coming, and you still can't stop it, is simply degrading to a defense. It serves notice that we are going to punch you in the mouth, and sap you're energy. It also keeps the defense fresh, and limits the opposing high power offenses' posessions. (see both Saint games again)
Seems to me, that they finally do get it. They drafted like they get it, they made personnel moves like they get it, and they are now acting like they get it....Till we open in GB and they throw the ball 43 times....HA!HA!
Quote from: GangGreen4Eva on May 14, 2007, 11:31:51 PM
When used, he has always been productive, and he is a VERY good blocker on blitz pick up's.
I had to stop reading after this because I couldn't stop laughing.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 15, 2007, 07:20:18 AM
Quote from: GangGreen4Eva on May 14, 2007, 11:31:51 PM
When used, he has always been productive, and he is a VERY good blocker on blitz pick up's.
I had to stop reading after this because I couldn't stop laughing.
Yeah...why is that? Do you actually UNDERSTAND what it is you are watching during the games, or are you too drunk? Buck has made himself in to a better than average blocker on blitz duties. As compared to when he first came in to the league, his progress in proctecting D-Mac on the blitz has been like night and day. I guess you missed several of the rather crushing blocks he layed on blitzer's last season.
Now, if you are laughing at Buck being productive when healthy and used, I know you aren't drunk, you're just an idiot with no football IQ.
Newsflash for ya....If he hadn't got hurt in that NFC title game against the Rams, the Eagles probably win that game. Or did you forget how he was shredding the Ram defense and chewing up first downs & clock, in the first half? Once he got hurt and left the game, and Staley was ineffective, Reid abandoned the run and threw the ball too much... Changed the entire complex of that game.
Add the fact that Buck has a CAREER YPC average of 4.4 yards an attempt, thus rushing for 1,473 yards on 338 carries, has 47 receptions in 46 games played, with an average of 11 YPC, and 14 combined TD's, to say he isn't productive when used, is just plain stupid.
You do the math..average out those stats over a 6 year career without injuries, and the fact the Eagles don't really run the ball.
Last but not least, if you don't root for this guy's tremendous heart and work ethic after all he has been through, you are gutless, and not a REAL EAGLES FAN! You must be one of the guys that wanted Ricky Williams here on that 99 draft day....you, 30 idiots, and Ed Rendell......what a joke!
lol...Buckhalter is a liability. He's a mediocre back who shows enough potential to keep him around, but supplements that by having ligaments that must be like crusty old rubberbands. Certainly not worth the soapbox treatment.
Quote from: GangGreen4Eva on May 16, 2007, 06:31:27 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 15, 2007, 07:20:18 AM
Quote from: GangGreen4Eva on May 14, 2007, 11:31:51 PM
When used, he has always been productive, and he is a VERY good blocker on blitz pick up's.
I had to stop reading after this because I couldn't stop laughing.
Yeah...why is that? Do you actually UNDERSTAND what it is you are watching during the games, or are you too drunk? Buck has made himself in to a better than average blocker on blitz duties. As compared to when he first came in to the league, his progress in proctecting D-Mac on the blitz has been like night and day. I guess you missed several of the rather crushing blocks he layed on blitzer's last season.
Now, if you are laughing at Buck being productive when healthy and used, I know you aren't drunk, you're just an idiot with no football IQ.
Newsflash for ya....If he hadn't got hurt in that NFC title game against the Rams, the Eagles probably win that game. Or did you forget how he was shredding the Ram defense and chewing up first downs & clock, in the first half? Once he got hurt and left the game, and Staley was ineffective, Reid abandoned the run and threw the ball too much... Changed the entire complex of that game.
Add the fact that Buck has a CAREER YPC average of 4.4 yards an attempt, thus rushing for 1,473 yards on 338 carries, has 47 receptions in 46 games played, with an average of 11 YPC, and 14 combined TD's, to say he isn't productive when used, is just plain stupid.
You do the math..average out those stats over a 6 year career without injuries, and the fact the Eagles don't really run the ball.
Last but not least, if you don't root for this guy's tremendous heart and work ethic after all he has been through, you are gutless, and not a REAL EAGLES FAN! You must be one of the guys that wanted Ricky Williams here on that 99 draft day....you, 30 idiots, and Ed Rendell......what a joke!
First, I didn't read any of this. Second, you must have one raging hard on for Buckhalter if you're willing to write this much (again) about a guy who has nothing to contribute to this team. He may not be the laughing stock of a pass protector that he used to be, but he isn't exactly a world beater either. And none of that matters because he's farging hurt all of the time.
You need to settle down with Buckhalter's tip. Never rub another man's rhubarb.
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Buckhalter eats it on blitz pickups. He's averagish on receiving. He's a good runner when healthy, but that hasn't been very often.
He is what he is. Trying to make him sound like an all-around back is foolish.
i think he's Marshall Faulk...with AIDS
leave buck alone
No. He farging blows and has no business being on this team. farg him.
Quote from: SunMo on May 17, 2007, 09:35:04 AM
i think he's Marshall Faulk...with AIDS
now that was funny
Quote from: GangGreen4Eva on May 16, 2007, 06:31:27 PM
Yeah...why is that? Do you actually UNDERSTAND what it is you are watching during the games, or are you too drunk?
ooh burn.
Quote from: MURP on May 14, 2007, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 14, 2007, 09:03:13 AM
Buck needs to be farging put down. I don't care if it's Ilaoa who takes his spot or some other schmuck, but he needs to go.
really? I honestly thought he was under utilized last season. He ran the ball well when given the chance.
I agree. Eevry time he got the ball, it seemd like he made a t least 4 yards.
What are we arguing about here? Buck has always been fine when he had the ball in his hands and could actually find his way onto the field. The fact is that he's average to below average in three very important categories: blitz pickup, receiving and having knees.
That means I don't want him on this team or anywhere other than the taterskins' sideline.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 17, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
What are we arguing about here? Buck has always been fine when he had the ball in his hands and could actually find his way onto the field. The fact is that he's average to below average in three very important categories: blitz pickup, receiving and having knees.
That means I don't want him on this team or anywhere other than the taterskins' sideline.
He's got knees!
They are both at home, floating in jars...
Quote from: rjs246 on May 17, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
That means I don't want him on this team or anywhere other than the taterskins' sideline.
That's the worst idea you've had since bottled AIDS. Man, if Gibbs could coach him up and touch his knees he'd ben un-freaking-stoppable. Idiot.
i cant believe people are arguing about bucks blitz picking up abaility...as if that has any bearing on whether a back makes this team..if andy cared about that at all he wouldnt run 15 empty backfield sets a game....send his rb out of the backfield another 25 times and hed have a te on the roster who could block
bucks blocking ability is a non starter
You're right... it's probably the biggest reason he's not a starter. Good point.
not really a good one...just a blatantly obvious one
Okay...At least some acknowledge he made strides as a blocker. As far as why were talking about a RB blocking, it's because that is one of the biggest reasons you don't see Moats on the field as often. I'm not on Buck's tip yo....I just appreciate his dedication in trying to recover from those injuries. Oh, by the way....I also believe Buck is still the fastest or 2nd fastes RB on the roster, even though he has NO knee ligaments left.....what's that say about the Eagle's front office?
Quote from: GangGreen4Eva on May 19, 2007, 07:02:10 AM
Oh, by the way....I also believe Buck is still the fastest or 2nd fastes RB on the roster
What the farg?
:-D
End yourself.
Westbrook
Buckhalter
Hunt
Ilaoa
Moats
Make Hunt or Ilaoa learn FB.
Tapeh isn't anything special so I wouldn't mind those 5. You could switch out Moats for Tapeh though. With Hunt and Ilaoa possibly making the team, they don't have to keep Moats around another year.
Tapeh was really good this year, especially for his first year. I really dont think Ilaoa is the lock everyone hopes he is. Practice squad this year, atleast. Then hopefully they find a good trade partner for Moats, making room for him.
Make Hunt or Ilaoa learn FB
lol
If either of them had the right mindset, they could do it.
Either way, Westbrook, Buckhalter, and Hunt are all locks.
That means they probably keep 2 of Tapeh, Ilaoa, and Moats. If Buckhalter's knees don't make it through camp, they keep all three.
So take your pick.
Will they carry 4 RB's? Moats has to be gone unless there's an injury.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 19, 2007, 07:46:20 AM
Quote from: GangGreen4Eva on May 19, 2007, 07:02:10 AM
Oh, by the way....I also believe Buck is still the fastest or 2nd fastes RB on the roster
What the farg?
:-D
End yourself.
Buck can fly. He used his signing bonus to buy a Rascal scooter retrofitted with a V8 hemi.
Quote from: MDS on May 20, 2007, 03:14:50 PM
Will they carry 4 RB's? Moats has to be gone unless there's an injury.
That's what I'm thinkin. The most likely case is Westbrook, Buckhalter, Hunt, Tapeh, and one of either Moats or Ilaoa. If Ilaoa can make ANY type of impact on special teams, I think he becomes a lock and Moats is gone. Reid's been keeping 5 in the backfield, but one of those 5 has been Mahe because he "contributes" on special teams. If neither Moats or Ilaoa can show they can do something on special teams, then maybe they both are gone. Or at least PS for Ilaoa. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind if they kept all 5 of those guys and cut Tapeh. But they'd have to still be REALLY high on Moats to do that.
by any chance munson are you and king cole related
Quote from: Munson on May 20, 2007, 03:19:01 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 20, 2007, 03:14:50 PM
Will they carry 4 RB's? Moats has to be gone unless there's an injury.
That's what I'm thinkin. The most likely case is Westbrook, Buckhalter, Hunt, Tapeh, and one of either Moats or Ilaoa. If Ilaoa can make ANY type of impact on special teams, I think he becomes a lock and Moats is gone. Reid's been keeping 5 in the backfield, but one of those 5 has been Mahe because he "contributes" on special teams. If neither Moats or Ilaoa can show they can do something on special teams, then maybe they both are gone. Or at least PS for Ilaoa. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind if they kept all 5 of those guys and cut Tapeh. But they'd have to still be REALLY high on Moats to do that.
No chance they cut Tapeh. If they do that then they're relying on a rookie who played HB in college, either Hunt or Ilaoa, to play FB (unless they sign someone). I think they keep Westbrook, Buck, Hunt, Tapeh, and Ilaoa.
I think the original intent behind drafting Moats was that he could turn into the next Westbrook and they could use this to play hardball with Westbrook's contract negotiations. Not only has Moats not proven himself capable of doing this, but Westbrook has significantly increased his value even further over the last couple of years. With Westbrook having firmly solidified his spot in the team's future plans, there's little reason to keep Moats around.
I wouldn't put a move like that past the eagles (trying Hunt or Ilaoa at FB), after depending on Tapeh this year who was basically in his rookie year and coming off a hip dislocation. Reid just doesn't seem to value the FB posistion enough to really care who plays there, so why wouldn't he try one of two players who can catch out of the backfield and are more versitile then Tapeh would be in the passing game?
I guess the answer to that question would be because Reid intends on actually running the ball this year and using the FB for it's true purpose. In which case neither Hunt or Ilaoa have proven they can do. Yet.
They already have Tapeh and Tuiaposopo at FB. They wont try to convert either of those players when they have Tuiasopo who is a natural FB waiting on the PS. Ilaoa will get his chance depending on injury but i highly doubt he makes the active roster. Moats hopefully can be traded for something during training camp. I'm thinking they might get some value at the best a 5th. Since they actually got a pick for Honeybuns.
I just don't think they'll differ much from years past and they'll keep 5 guys in the backfield. The most likely top 4 being Westbrook, Buck, Hunt, and Tapeh.
That leaves one roster spot for Ilaoa or Moats. I'll take Ilaoa just because I like his size and he's gotta be smarter then Moats. I want them to give Moats another chance, but I think his time here is up. Unless Ilaoa just flat out sucks.
We sure are making a big deal about Nate Ililailaiaoaoa.
The guy will probably not be in the NFL more than a year or two... and even then on practice squads.
Quote from: Munson on May 20, 2007, 11:35:16 PM
I just don't think they'll differ much from years past and they'll keep 5 guys in the backfield. The most likely top 4 being Westbrook, Buck, Hunt, and Tapeh.
That leaves one roster spot for Ilaoa or Moats. I'll take Ilaoa just because I like his size and he's gotta be smarter then Moats. I want them to give Moats another chance, but I think his time here is up. Unless Ilaoa just flat out sucks.
I think the only reason they've been keeping 5 RB's because of Mahe and they had no one else they could rely on to return punts. Now that Mahe's gone... I say they go back to 4 RB's (Westbrook, Buck, Hunt and Tapeh), stash Ilaoa on the PS... and use that roster spot elsewhere, possibly WR... carrying 6, to keep Bloom and/or Johnson on board.
don't you guys ever talk that way about the nasty. he will hunt you down, devour your soul and soil your sheets.
So... he's the next Najeh Davenport?
precisely
CSN video clip on pass catching (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/media/video/eagles/052907-NateIlaoa.wmv)
He also said that even though he spent part of his childhood in Virginia, he never liked the taterskins because they had ugly uniforms
as good a reason as any I suppose
What's up with your boy Illy still holding out as the only unsigned low-rounder?
What's he waiting for, garunteed Spam in the lunchroom? ;)
Quote from: methdeez on May 31, 2007, 01:04:42 PM
What's up with your boy Illy still holding out as the only unsigned low-rounder?
What's he waiting for, garunteed Spam in the lunchroom? ;)
He's waiting for Buck's knee to give out so he'll be more valuable to the team.
He's awaiting the Raheem Brock treatment, in case we run out of money before we can sign Abiamiri and Kolb.
Raheem Brock has a ring.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 31, 2007, 10:34:10 PM
Raheem Brock has a ring.
So does my wife. I hate her too.
Quote from: SunMo on April 29, 2007, 05:21:50 PM
last pick of the day
running back, Hawaii
You can read, I am really surpised
not nearly as surprised as i'm sure you were this weekend when you found out that "Chris" was short for Christopher, not Christine.
but what the hell, you paid your $25, a bj is a bj, right? it doesn't matter if "it's" back is as broad as Mr. T's, you're getting what you paid for.
This guy is a fat piece of shtein who is in serious trouble now that NFL Europe is done.
Your attitude is sufficiently miserable. Carry on.
C-
He signed a 4 year deal.
$45K signing bonus
2007 = $285,000
2008 = $370,000
2009 = $460,000
2010 = $1.1M
$45K huh? Wow. That wouldn't get you a decent used luxury car after taxes.
He's gonna get a sweet Kia though.
a loaded Honda is a damn nice car
The only man to ever rap about a Honda was Sir Mixalot, but he was rapping about butts.
my son attended a football camp this week at the Univ. of Hawaii put on by former bird Rich Miano. On saturday Nasti Nate was there helping out. he is a big dude. he looked taller than the listed 5-9. must have been the hair as it was "out".