QuoteEagles | Team showing the most interest in S. Davis
Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:42:19 -0700
Jason Cole and Charles Robinson, of Yahoo Sports, report the Philadelphia Eagles are the team showing the most interest in free agent RB Stephen Davis (Panthers).
He's done! Not sure I like this or not.
Lions and Dolphins showing interest as well.
Here's the article from which the KFFL update came (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AiVhPBG3f198ujz8m0Yap1xDubYF?slug=ys-nflnotebook081406&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Quote# Former Carolina Panthers and Washington taterskins running back Stephen Davis still is hoping to play, but he likely will wait until the end of training camp to do anything. The Eagles have been the most interested team, but the Miami Dolphins and Detroit Lions have expressed interest as well.
I don't like this idea any more than I did months ago.
Is Stephen Davis the answer?
« on: May 01, 2006, 09:53:04 AM »
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He's a FA and if he's got something left in the tank I think he'd be freakin awesome. He doesn't need to be an every down back for us. We just need a power short yardage back. I don't know what type of role he is looking for and what kind of money he wants...
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Liked it then like it now. We would use him like maybe..10 carries a game. He's probably a better blocker in a 1-back set than Mahe ;)
wow, talk about being on the fence about something, not sure how i really feel about it.
it cant hurt but jesus cant the eagles makes moves to protect themselves at the rb position in the off season like most teams do with positions of concern...why do they wait until spet 1 and then go for the oldest cheapest most over the hill guy on the market
I don't get this.
They already have Westbrook, Moats, & Perry as halfbacks plus Mahe for whatever reason.
What the hell do they need with a washed up gimp like Stephen Davis? If this speculation is true, then something is seriously wrong healthwise with one of the three above. I'm thinking Perry's concussion could be a whole lot worse than the team is letting on.
I'm pretty sure the Eagles are planning to keep 63 guys on the roster anyway. Welcome aboard.
If this speculation is true, then something is seriously wrong healthwise with one of the three above.
its not only that something may be wrong with them now its that they know that the chances that westbrook makes it thru the seaosn are slim to none...buck is worthless moats is a 3rd down back and mahe shouldnt even be in the league
but again they knew all this in march...why did they wait all this time to get a proven nfl back up that is capable of filling in at the #1 rb spot
That's a given, IGY.
I'm just saying that the situation now seems to have changed. The Eagles went into the preseason with four tailbacks and Mahe. They had to assume that at least one of them would be healthy enough to carry the load.
Considering their collective injury history, I'd say that was a stupid miscalculation on their part.
Marty Johnson > Stephen Davis
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2006, 08:13:08 AM
it cant hurt but jesus cant the eagles makes moves to protect themselves at the rb position in the off season like most teams do with positions of concern...why do they wait until spet 1 and then go for the oldest cheapest most over the hill guy on the market
amen...did they just now figure out that they have bunch of small and/or injury prone hb's? it's their yearly trip to the scrap heap to find a backup rb.
I can't wait until we sign Ki-Jana Carter in week 4.
Is Steve Van Buren available?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 14, 2006, 08:51:39 AM
I can't wait until we sign Ki-Jana Carter in week 4.
Well, you know it takes awhile for those PSU backs to warm up. I'm sure Carter is Larry Johnson waiting to happen. Sold!
where's my boy lamar gordon playing this year?
For the Eagles, probably. We're just waiting for Buck to spontaneously combust.
so they'll sign gordon on friday morning.
cool!
Nowhere.
Much like Jonathon Wells he is not on a roster. Wells I can't exactly understand why he's not in camp somewhere.
Romey,
Perry is back practicing. Buck went live yesterday for the first time and Mahe blows. I don't know what the deal is. But one dude on the EMB tried to tell me that he thinks Davis can be a 1400 yard back again. :-D
i forgot about wells...get him signed.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2006, 09:02:07 AM
one dude on the EMB tried to tell me that he thinks Davis can be a 1400 yard back again. :-D
Certainly, he means that maybe he can scrape together that many overall yards over 2-3 more seasons...??
No matter how you slice it, it's retarded.
Quote from: hunt on August 14, 2006, 09:03:45 AM
i forgot about wells...get him signed.
He would've been interesting earlier in the off-season but I wonder whats up with him now. If he's not getting a sniff from anyone maybe somethings wrong with him. There was nothing connecting him to any teams during FA.
I really think Davis is done though. He looked bad last year.
I want no part of Davis, the guy's knees are equal to bucks but with less cartilege.
There was nothing connecting him to any teams during FA.
i remember he visited buffalo at one point...but yes its a total mystery as to why he hasnt got on with someone
Maybe he's just big and slow. His 3.1 YPC average isn't exactly scintillating, either.
Maybe he's just big and slow
he is....but so are lots of big backs
Right, but if he's not particularly strong or doesn't run behind blocks well...
Let's just say I trust the collective NFL's scouting ahead of a hunch from you that Wells is any good.
I'd take him over Stephen Davis in a heartbeat, but that's not saying much.
Let's just say I trust the collective NFL's scouting ahead of a hunch from you that Wells is any good.
the thing is i believe its more than a 'this guy cant play in the league anymore'
its gotta be an injury or personal problem
maybe he got the hiv
you dont find it coincidence that 2 weeks before the season starts Davis is now available. He wanted to skip all of training camp to help ease his knees for the start of the season. He knew RBs would get hurt by now after 2 preseason games, now he can maximixe his profits off of whats left of his fragile ass
His agent doesnt take calls from teams, now takes them from multiple teams interested. He gets signed one week before the season. nice move Stevie
"maximize his profits"?!?
Davis will be playing for the veteran minimum, if he's playing at all.
bad choice of words for his case, but he knows exactly what hes doing.
Same for Willie Roaf. claim retirement, skip all of camp, dont sign retirement papers, come back(which I think he will)
these vets hate camp and I dont blame em
yeah because davis is in such demand that he can just chill until the start of the regular season and then pick his spot
Exactly. I think he would have loved to participate in a camp if it would have meant he had a job.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2006, 11:03:23 AM
yeah because davis is in such demand that he can just chill until the start of the regular season and then pick his spot
He's no Timmy Hauck if that's what you're getting at. ;)
Get Hauck?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 14, 2006, 11:07:35 AM
Exactly. I think he would have loved to participate in a camp if it would have meant he had a job.
would love to be in camp? the older vets hate camp. its grueling. they say it all the time. you think with Davis' bad knees, hes wants that every day and night?
my point is he knows someone would want him and he could skip camp. The guy just had 12TD's last year and teams look at that. then they look at if he can pass a physical
I personally dont want them to go that route, and I cant stand when they play this nickel and dime bulls*it before the start fo the season with a very important skill position--knowing damn well they need it every year. They need to suck it up, give up the draft pick and make the Denver trade.
hes not in camp right now because no one needs him...youre intimating he could be in a camp right now but is holding out because he doesnt like it...which isnt true...
the minute a team calls him is the minute he reports to camp
fluff piece on Marty Johnson (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=53314)
We don't need no stinkin' RB's!
Our running backs are fine. [/reid]
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2006, 10:27:05 AM
Maybe he's just big and slow
he is....but so are lots of big backs
how do you know this? you only watch the eagles play
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2006, 02:22:44 PM
hes not in camp right now because no one needs him...youre intimating he could be in a camp right now but is holding out because he doesnt like it...which isnt true...
the minute a team calls him is the minute he reports to camp
IGY, I can name 7 teams right now that need a backup:
Eagles
Jets
Miami
Seattle
San Diego
Oakland
Houston
we agree to disagree my friend. Vets hate camp...believe that
Jets - just acquired Suggs
Chargers - have Michael Turner & Darren Sproles
Seattle - Has Mo Morris
ok take the Jets off--just got him as we speak
Chargers--exactly--need backup--sprole returns kicks
Seattle--Morris is doable
you got me on 1 scooter..nice work
The Chargers do not need a backup RB. Turner is a good young backup. And Sproles is 3rd on the depth chart and can fill in if needed. So if anything they would need a 4th string RB. Good call.
i really dont know how to respond to this rumor. levens did fine when he came in for a limited role and he wasnt really wanted either other places. if he can come in for the dreaded 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 2 situations...even to serve a as a decoy i guess it could be worth it.
I'm not sure Davis could fill the 4th spot, Phreak.
Unless I'm missing something, this entire premise is faulty. Davis is washed up, right?
Or is this another Dorsey Levensesque move made by the geniuses in the front office who refused to address this situation when they could and should have?
I was telling reese's pieces that his call that the Chargers need a RB is crazy. I guess my sarcasm didn't make it. They don't because Turner and Sproles are fine behind LT.
And yes, I think Davis is done.
I wasn't referring to reese there. Just a passing thought about Davis in general.
I hope to God they don't pick his geriatric ass up. I further hope they stop farging around and get a durable running back in there, and soon.
Don't really see that happening, Rome. Not a whole lot that will be out there other than what we pretty much see on the scrap heap each year. Unless there is some truth to what Gargano is saying about them trying to get Tatum Bell and Ashley Lelie in a package deal.
Yeah, neither do I.
At least they didn't draft Spitty Spitterson, LenDale White, though.
:-D
I know. I'm glad they passed on him too.
Although several of the guys I wanted them to draft or sign as UDFA's never happened.
Coincidentally the now #1 RB in DEN was one of the guys who I really wanted. :-\
No.
The only thing Davis may be good for would be a short yardage back in a similar situation Pittsburgh used Bettis the last two years. But that is the absolute best case scenario, so considering the Eagles don't run the ball nearly as much as the Steelers it really would be a pointless move.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2006, 06:30:15 PM
The Chargers do not need a backup RB. Turner is a good young backup. And Sproles is 3rd on the depth chart and can fill in if needed. So if anything they would need a 4th string RB. Good call.
Chargers RB/PR Darren Sproles underwent surgery for a broken leg Monday.
Head coach Marty Schottenheimer said Sproles would be out "multiple weeks," which isn't a lie; he's likely done for the year. San Diego is expected to turn to starting WR Eric Parker in the punt return game, which could give Vincent Jackson an opportunity to start opposite Keenan McCardell.
There u go Phreak, I owed you one ;)
Huh, no shtein. I saw him go down when watching the game on NFLN but I thought it was just a sprain. Got me on that one.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2006, 06:22:27 PM
Jets - just acquired Suggs
Chargers - have Michael Turner & Darren Sproles
Seattle - Has Mo Morris
Lee Suggs failed his physical with the Jets.
There is no truth to this either from what I was told. Sounds like agent speak.
POSTED 10:34 p.m. EDT, August 20, 2006
DAVIS HEADING TO PHILLY
A team source tells us that running back Stephen Davis will visit with the Eagles on Monday, possibly as a precursor to signing a free-agent deal.
Davis passed a physical last week with Dr. James Andrews of Birmingham, Alabama. A letter was then sent to every team explaining that Davis is healthy and available.
The Eagles currently have injury issues at the tailback position. Brian Westbrook has a bad foot. Correll Buckhalter is working his way back from two lost seasons; he managed a 48-yard run on Thursday night against the Ravens.
Other teams that could be interested in Davis include the taterskins. Davis was drafted by Washington in 1996 and spent seven seasons in D.C. Coach Steve Spurrier gave up on him after the 2002 season, but Davis then had his best season ever in 2003 with the Panthers, as Carolina landed in the Super Bowl. Davis was injured for most of the 2004 season, and had 12 touchdowns in 13 games before landing in IR in 2005.
Another possible scenario would be for Davis to sign with a new team after the first week of the regular season, since if he is on any team's roster for the opening weekend his entire salary would be fully guaranteed.
http://www.profootballtalk.com
Look in the topic below this. 8)
I guess Moats fumbling like crazy along with Perry being wiped off the face of the planet has changed the minds in the FO...
I still think Davis' knees are cooked. But if they sign him I'll root like hell for him to help the team out,
Well, if Andrews passed him on a physical, the knees must no be a problem anymore.
Super. Bowl.
if an agent has to send faxes to every team saying how healthy his player is then the player is not healthy
barlow would've been a nice pickup.
Davis could work as a 3rd-down/goal line power runner.
Davis offers no insurance for Westbrook getting hurt. He'd be done 2 weeks afterward.
if he had 12 TDs last year, he's gotta have something left.
i'll take anything at RB, just to possibly squeeze mahe off of the roster.
still think the Eagles would be more interested in Duckett, as long as he knows hes a #2 back.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 21, 2006, 09:07:26 AM
still think the Eagles would be more interested in Duckett, as long as he knows hes a #2 back.
The Dirty Birds want a receiver. Who would this team give? GLew?
Blurb on PE.com now. Spads is fast:
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RB Davis In For A Physical
August 21, 2006
By DAVE SPADARO
Veteran running back Stephen Davis is at the NovaCare Complex on Monday, taking a physical for the Eagles. Davis has played 10 seasons in the NFL for Washington and Carolina and has gained 7,875 yards with 65 rushing touchdowns in his career.
Three times in his career Davis has scored 10 or more touchdowns, including 12 last season with Carolina in only 13 games. With the Panthers in 2005, Davis gained 549 yards on 180 carries.
His season was cut short by a knee injury, however, and Davis underwent microfracture surgery to repair the damage in his right knee. He has reportedly been given a clean bill of health by noted physician Dr. James Andrews.
He is in Philadelphia for a physical and a look-see. PhiladelphiaEagles.com will update the story throughout the day.
Les brings up some interesting points:
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Source: Birds meeting with Stephen Davis
By LES BOWEN
bowenl@phillynews.com
Free-agent running back Stephen Davis arrived in Philadelphia late last night and will meet with Eagles officials today, a team source said.
The Eagles' running-back situation has been unsettled, with Brian Westbrook suffering a sprained foot after just six carries in the first preseason game, Ryan Moats and Bruce Perry coping with injuries and fumble problems, and Correll Buckhalter still facing long odds as he attempts to recover from missing three of the last four seasons to knee injuries.
The Birds' interest in Davis is a little unexpected, in that he is 32 and didn't show much last season for the Carolina Panthers - 549 yards on 180 carries, 3.1 yards per carry. He did score 12 touchdowns for the Panthers, who released him after the season.
While Davis is unlikely to reprise any of his four 1,000-yard seasons, he might be able to pitch in here and there, as Dorsey Levens has done for previous Eagles teams. At 6-foot, 230, Davis would provide the size many fans worry the Eagles are missing in their backfield, particularly if Buckhalter isn't a factor.
One complication might be that the Birds apparently aren't the only team interested. In the wake of the shoulder injury suffered by Clinton Portis, Davis apparently has been contacted by the Washington taterskins, for whom he played his first seven NFL seasons. The complicated terms of his release by Carolina - Davis was "released injured," which means he gets some of the money he was owed for this season, unless he signs with another team and gets cut - probably mean Davis is looking for something more substantial than a 1-year, nonguaranteed veteran minimum contract. He would probably want incentives written into the deal.
Still, the team source said the Eagles' interest in Davis is substantial. His best season came in 2003, the year the Panthers upset the Eagles in the NFC Championship Game. Davis rumbled for 1,444 yards on 318 carries that year. Davis was very familiar to Birds fans even before that, as the taterskins' fulcrum for several years. In 1999, he gained 1,405 yards for Washington, on 290 carries (4.8-yard average) and ran for an amazing 17 touchdowns.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 21, 2006, 09:07:26 AM
still think the Eagles would be more interested in Duckett, as long as he knows hes a #2 back.
of course they would, but duckett is on a team right now, whereas davis is not.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 21, 2006, 09:12:33 AM
Blurb on PE.com now. Spads is fast:
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RB Davis In For A Physical
August 21, 2006
By DAVE SPADARO
Veteran running back Stephen Davis is at the NovaCare Complex on Monday, taking a physical for the Eagles. Davis has played 10 seasons in the NFL for Washington and Carolina and has gained 7,875 yards with 65 rushing touchdowns in his career.
Three times in his career Davis has scored 10 or more touchdowns, including 12 last season with Carolina in only 13 games. With the Panthers in 2005, Davis gained 549 yards on 180 carries.
His season was cut short by a knee injury, however, and Davis underwent microfracture surgery to repair the damage in his right knee. He has reportedly been given a clean bill of health by noted physician Dr. James Andrews.
He is in Philadelphia for a physical and a look-see. PhiladelphiaEagles.com will update the story throughout the day.
So, are you saying that Davis
is at the NovaCare center?
apparently he IS
Quote from: Cerevant on August 21, 2006, 09:23:20 AM
So, are you saying that Davis is at the NovaCare center?
My buddy saw him at Philly International, and hit him in the face with a warm turd. "Thanks for 2003 icehole! Get out of Philly!"
Given the state of the Eagles backs and concerns around future health this is a good move...doesn't hurt to look or keep your options open.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 21, 2006, 09:19:48 AM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 21, 2006, 09:07:26 AM
still think the Eagles would be more interested in Duckett, as long as he knows hes a #2 back.
of course they would, but duckett is on a team right now, whereas davis is not.
Exactly. I also think that the Eagles are looking ahead to the draft a little and realizing that for the first time in years they probably aren't going to have any supplemental picks and are loathe to trade away picks for role-players like Lelie and Duckett. There might be something smart about that plan in the long run, but RIGHT NOW those two players can help this team (certainly more than Stephen Davis) and their lack of effort in acquiring either is frustrating.
The Eagles strategy with running backs is brilliant.
If you have 4 or 5 injury prone backs who are probably all at least slightly above average when healthy, one of them is bound to be healthy every week.
Brilliant.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 21, 2006, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 21, 2006, 09:19:48 AM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 21, 2006, 09:07:26 AM
still think the Eagles would be more interested in Duckett, as long as he knows hes a #2 back.
of course they would, but duckett is on a team right now, whereas davis is not.
Exactly. I also think that the Eagles are looking ahead to the draft a little and realizing that for the first time in years they probably aren't going to have any supplemental picks and are loathe to trade away picks for role-players like Lelie and Duckett. There might be something smart about that plan in the long run, but RIGHT NOW those two players can help this team (certainly more than Stephen Davis) and their lack of effort in acquiring either is frustrating.
Aren't you the same guy who has said repeatedly that Ashley Lelie sucks?
Which is it? Does he suck or can he help the Eagles? I don't see how he's going to help them one bit because he doesn't know the offense, he plays like a bitch, and he's had zero time with Donovan. Add to the fact that he has an attitude problem and he's about as far from being a solution for the Eagles as it gets.
As for Duckett, I'd tend to agree with you there. He's better than Stephen Davis even though he's been a pretty big disappointment in Atlanta. His reputation exceeds his production but that might just be a case of a talking scrotum like Jim Mora misusing him in the offense.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 21, 2006, 12:32:42 PM
Aren't you the same guy who has said repeatedly that Ashley Lelie sucks?
Which is it? Does he suck or can he help the Eagles? I don't see how he's going to help them one bit because he doesn't know the offense, he plays like a bitch, and he's had zero time with Donovan. Add to the fact that he has an attitude problem and he's about as far from being a solution for the Eagles as it gets.
He does suck. I don't like him one bit. And yet I still consider him to be better (at opening up the passing game) than the options that the Eagles currently have on their roster. He's a one-trick pony, but this team needs someone who can perform that trick.
If he could catch 35-45 passes for 16-18 yards per, he would stretch the field in ways that no one on the current roster can.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 21, 2006, 12:32:42 PM
As for Duckett, I'd tend to agree with you there. He's better than Stephen Davis even though he's been a pretty big disappointment in Atlanta. His reputation exceeds his production but that might just be a case of a talking scrotum like Jim Mora misusing him in the offense.
Duckett didn't have a single rush for negative yards his rookie season. He has consistently put up good numbers in terms of TDs and yards on relatively few touches. I don't know if he's an every down back or a short yardage specialist, but either way he is EXACTLY what I wish the Eagles had on their roster. Especially if they're going to do any sort of runningback by committee.
^^^Listen to this man.^^^
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 21, 2006, 12:32:42 PM
Aren't you the same guy who has said repeatedly that Ashley Lelie sucks?
Which is it? Does he suck or can he help the Eagles? I don't see how he's going to help them one bit because he doesn't know the offense, he plays like a bitch, and he's had zero time with Donovan. Add to the fact that he has an attitude problem and he's about as far from being a solution for the Eagles as it gets.
As for Duckett, I'd tend to agree with you there. He's better than Stephen Davis even though he's been a pretty big disappointment in Atlanta. His reputation exceeds his production but that might just be a case of a talking scrotum like Jim Mora misusing him in the offense.
First Google hit for "Talking Scrotum" (http://www.yikers.com/video_ufc_fighter_attacks_guys_scrotum.html)
Ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch.
It's not a talking scrotum during the video, but my bet is it'll be talking to the dude the next morning.
You just don't do that shtein.
Lelie has no interest in being a situational receiver. He'll accept being a starter and nothing less. Why would he accept being a backup in Philly if he's not willing to be a backup in Denver?
He has no experience in the Eagles offense; he has no rapport with Donovan; he'd have to crash-learn the terminology used on offense; he plays like a bitch; and he's unwilling to fight for a job in training camp to PROVE his worth to his current team.
After all the bullshtein they had to tolerate with Owens (whose phenomenal talent almost makes his prima donna bullcrap tolerable) why would they ever get a guy with considerably less talent and an equal amount of zesty attitude?
It just doesn't add up.
No one's arguing with you, Rome. I'm saying that if all they did was line Lelie up and have him run a fly pattern every play it would help open up the offense. I don't think it will happen, and I don't think he's worth whatever money he will inevitably ask for, but Lelie doing that one thing would help the offense a lot.
baskett has no experience in this offense either...he has no experience with any nfl offense.
lelie would start on this team once he learned the offense...but andy won't trade for him.
One-trick doesn't = situational/backup
Ashley Lelie comes nowhere close to the zesty attitude TO brings.
Bottom line. The Eagles NEED a deep threat. Lelie does that and does it well. Is he a great option? Not really. But he's pretty much the best option left at this point... including the option of letting someone currently on the roster trying to fill that role.
Quote from: hunt on August 21, 2006, 12:58:19 PM
baskett has no experience in this offense either...he has no experience with any nfl offense.
lelie would start on this team once he learned the offense...but andy won't trade for him.
Baskett has an entire training camp worth of experience with the offense. He knows the terminology and he has a rapport with Donovan since he worked out with him in Arizona prior to the start of camp.
As for Lelie, there's no guarantee that he would start here and the only evidence we have of the kind of player he is and the kind of character he has is from what he's done in Denver. To use an IGYism, he's bitchmade, dook.
Lelie wouldn't start? Come on.
The Brown/Baskett starting lineup is juuuuuust a little easier to crack than the Smith/Walker lineup.
If Lelie would start on the Eagles and he's available for a reasonable price, then why isn't he on the team right now?
Andy's never been hesitant about making deals for players especially those who come cheap and Lelie would come relatively cheap.
So I'll ask it again: Why haven't the Eagles traded for him yet? I think the answer is they're happy with what they have at the position. I'm not saying I am. I'm saying THEY are.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 21, 2006, 01:44:58 PM
If Lelie would start on the Eagles and he's available for a reasonable price, then why isn't he on the team right now?
I see you're new to the whole 'being an Eagles fan' thing. Welcome.
Davis left without a contract.
I read that other teams were interested, so he might not even sign here.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 03:49:07 PM
Davis left without a contract.
I read that other teams were interested, so he might not even sign here.
Where'd you see that?
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 21, 2006, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 03:49:07 PM
Davis left without a contract.
I read that other teams were interested, so he might not even sign here.
Where'd you see that?
He's probably predicting it. Which means that it is most likely B.S, which he will dispute and say his was misunderstood later.
QuoteRB Davis Visits, And Then Leaves
August 21, 2006
By DAVE SPADARO
Veteran running back Stephen Davis was at the NovaCare Complex on Monday taking a physical for the Eagles, head coach Andy Reid confirmed in his morning press conference. After the physical, Reid met with Davis and the former Pro Bowler then left the Complex without a contract.
The Eagles said nothing is "imminent" regarding Davis.
Why Davis? Reid insisted that nothing about the current running backs caused an interest in Davis. The Eagles have actually been planning to bring in Davis for a physical and workout since training camp, Reid said.
RB Stephen Davis
"We're going to evaluate him," Reid said. "He's a good running back.
"We had planned to bring him in here during training camp and we'll make sure to evaluate him and see if he's healthy."
Reid also said the Eagles didn't have interest in former San Francisco 49ers running back Kevan Barlow, who was traded to the New York Jets on Sunday.
Davis has played 10 seasons in the NFL for Washington and Carolina and has gained 7,875 yards with 65 rushing touchdowns in his career.
Three times in his career Davis has scored 10 or more touchdowns, including 12 last season with Carolina in only 13 games. With the Panthers in 2005, Davis gained 549 yards on 180 carries.
His season was cut short by a knee injury, however, and Davis underwent microfracture surgery to repair the damage in his right knee. He has reportedly been given a clean bill of health by noted physician Dr. James Andrews.
I was actually kinda excited about having Davis for certain situations, but I guess it is understandable that we didnt sign him because of the depth we already have at RB.
QuoteAugust 21, 2006
By DAVE SPADARO
Veteran running back Stephen Davis was at the NovaCare Complex on Monday taking a physical for the Eagles, head coach Andy Reid confirmed in his morning press conference. After the physical, Reid met with Davis and the former Pro Bowler then left the Complex without a contract.
The Eagles said nothing is "imminent" regarding Davis.
Why Davis? Reid insisted that nothing about the current running backs caused an interest in Davis. The Eagles have actually been planning to bring in Davis for a physical and workout since training camp, Reid said.
That's him leaving without a contract and....
QuoteOne complication might be that the Birds apparently aren't the only team interested. In the wake of the shoulder injury suffered by Clinton Portis, Davis apparently has been contacted by the Washington taterskins, for whom he played his first seven NFL seasons. The complicated terms of his release by Carolina - Davis was "released injured," which means he gets some of the money he was owed for this season, unless he signs with another team and gets cut - probably mean Davis is looking for something more substantial than a 1-year, nonguaranteed veteran minimum contract. He would probably want incentives written into the deal.
That's about us not being the only team interested. A Lew Bowen article on the Daily News.
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
I would think the taterskins don't make sense for the dude. As soon as Portis is verified healthy, Davis would be done again, probably not seeing playing time again all season. Dude wants to play. Could do the whole huge paycheck thing though I guess....
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
One can only hope so...
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 21, 2006, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
I would think the taterskins don't make sense for the dude. As soon as Portis is verified Healthy, Davis would be done again, probably not season playing time again all season. Dude wants to play. Could do the whole huge paycheck thing though I guess....
I think it's because Snyder will throw out whatever money Davis wants, and he's played there before, so he might feel comfortable there.
Plus, from an outside perspective, he probably things they look better on paper than the Eagles.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 21, 2006, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
One can only hope so...
Yea it's not like we have no depth at running back and Reid has shown basically no interest in trading for a back.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
After bashing the Davis visit today, it'll be fun to watch the complete 360 that Skins fans make if he signs there.
:-D
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 21, 2006, 03:54:13 PM
I was actually kinda excited about having Davis for certain situations, but I guess it is understandable that we didnt sign him because of the depth we already have at RB.
i can't tell if you're serious or not. depth?
Quote from: phattymatty on August 21, 2006, 04:09:57 PM
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 21, 2006, 03:54:13 PM
I was actually kinda excited about having Davis for certain situations, but I guess it is understandable that we didnt sign him because of the depth we already have at RB.
i can't tell if you're serious or not. depth?
Not serious.
time to dig even deeper into the scrap heap, i guess.
If Davis signs elsewhere, and the Eagles go into the season with what we have now, it's really going to piss me off, because all we're going to hear is how they are satisfied with their current RBs.
Which obviously isn't the case if they brought Davis in. So I really don't want to hear that BS this year.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 21, 2006, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 21, 2006, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
One can only hope so...
Yea it's not like we have no depth at running back and Reid has shown basically no interest in trading for a back.
I was referring to the thread, Quick Draw.
Settle down.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 21, 2006, 04:17:04 PM
Settle down.
I tend to misplace flustration. You prolly know that by now. :-*
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 21, 2006, 04:06:34 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
If he visits the taterskins, then it's over.
After bashing the Davis visit today, it'll be fun to watch the complete 360 that Skins fans make if he signs there.
taterskins fans:
One week ago... Stephen Davis was a great running back for the Skins! Hall of Fame? Probably!111!Yesterday... Stephen Davis sucks! He blows goats!! I would never want him on my beloved team again!As of 10 minutes ago... SIGN STEPHEN DAVIS! Coach Gibbs will steer him back to greatness!!
Don't know if this was already posted somewhere, but it belongs here I suppose:
Quote
Eagles don't make a deal with Davis
By LES BOWEN
bowenl@phillynews.com
IF A RUNNING back arrives and departs without commenting or signing a contract, does he still make a sound?
In the case of 32-year-old free agent Stephen Davis, the answer has to be yes.
The Eagles brought Davis in, gave him a physical and met with him yesterday, but by the time the team's afternoon practice session was over, Davis had left the Nova-Care complex. A source close to the situation said Davis was going to visit another team - possibly Washington, which the source said has shown interest in bringing back the former taterskins star, though the taterskins have denied that to reporters there.
Davis' departure almost certainly means the Birds weren't blown away by the results of his physical. Davis was "released injured" by Carolina at the end of last season, because of chronic knee problems, for which he had microfracture surgery in the offseason. It might be too early to say the Eagles are no longer interested in signing Davis, but they definitely did not seize the day.
If Davis is not about to become an Eagle, the team has put itself in an interesting situation. Everybody in Eagle Nation, including the current group of running backs, now knows the Birds are actively looking for help. Coach Andy Reid can still say he's "not necessarily" displeased with or alarmed about his running situation, as he did yesterday, but not too many people are going to believe him.
If Davis isn't the answer, there doesn't seem to be a long list of attractive alternatives. Cleveland presumably would still like to trade Lee Suggs, the guy who failed the Jets' physical, voiding a trade last week. Last year's stopgap, Lamar Gordon, isn't playing anywhere. Neither is now-36-year-old Dorsey Levens. As far as that goes, Steve Van Buren might be available, too.
But clearly, there is a now-acknowledged need there. Much of quarterback Donovan McNabb's media session yesterday was devoted to discussing how much Davis would help, though McNabb kept stressing that he wasn't saying Davis was going to be signed.
"When you have a guy like Stephen Davis in the backfield and [Brian] Westbrook in motion, lining up maybe as a receiver... and you hand the ball off to Stephen Davis and pick up 8 yards, now the defense has to wonder what you're going to do next," McNabb said. "We can fake to Stephen Davis, if he's back there - now, I'm just saying, 'If he's back there,' I'm not saying it like it's a 'go' or nothing - but teams have to be able to recognize the fact that you have two guys out there on the field that can do a lot of different things."
Westbrook, who suffered a foot injury on his only series of the preseason (in his return from an injury to his other foot that ended his 2005 season four games early), ought to be practicing in a week or so, Reid said yesterday. Reid said Westbrook "has started running in the pool."
Behind Westbrook, you have Reno Mahe, who probably stays on the roster no matter what happens, and three guys who aren't where the Eagles hoped they would be when minicamps adjourned a little more than 2 months ago - Ryan Moats, Bruce Perry and Correll Buckhalter.
Moats, the team's 2005 third-round draft pick, seemed to be progressing impressively in his knowledge of the offense through the spring. A knee injury at Lehigh set Moats back, as has a penchant for fumbling. Last Thursday, on his first carry of the preseason, he coughed up the ball.
"You can't control anything anybody else is doing, you have to worry about yourself," Moats said yesterday, when asked what he made of Davis' visit. Perry and Buckhalter said virtually the same thing; no one would acknowledge being miffed.
Moats said he felt the list of things he couldn't control extended to Thursday's fumble - which probably is not the opinion of his fumble-averse coach.
"Sometimes you just can't control what happens," Moats said. "I had it tucked away; they get paid, too. Sometimes it happens, and you can't control it."
Moats said he feels he's progressing.
"I'm way better than what I was at this point last year," Moats said, "as far as picking up blitzes, and how to pick up blitzes, and stuff like that. I'm learning still. It's a learning process, it doesn't happen overnight... I only can be Ryan Moats... I'm working toward getting back to where I need to be, where I can show my full talent and be an athlete instead of thinking out there." :-D
The knee injury, he said, "put me behind mentally a little bit, but I'm getting back on top of it... I can rebound."
Perry, a seventh-round pick in 2004, was the least upbeat of the three. He did not get a carry from scrimmage in Baltimore, as he returned from suffering a concussion in the preseason opener. Perry fumbled the ball away twice in that opener.
"I don't know," Perry said, when asked if Davis coming in affected where he stood. "I can't control it."
He acknowledged he was "a little surprised" at his role in Baltimore. "You've just got to be ready when they call on you," he said. "I had a talk [before the game] with my running-back coach [Ted Williams]. I understood why. I opened the door for it, in that Oakland game. I've just got to continue to work hard."
Buckhalter said: "It's not for me to decide or me to think about. I have too much stuff I need to get done, to worry about who's coming in or who's this or who's that. I have to take care of what Correll's got to do."
Buckhalter went 48 yards with a screen against the Ravens, in his first game in 2 years. Skeptics say he still hasn't planted and made that hard, sharp cut so crucial to running between the tackles.
"I feel good," Buckhalter said. "Every day I'm getting better. Every day I critique myself, on each and every practice, little things I think I need to sharpen up on."
He said his knees came through the Baltimore game with no pain or swelling.
"Going into contact and driving, I think that's one thing I need to work on," he said. "I'm just running - it doesn't matter if it's a sharp cut or a light cut... I don't feel any hesitation. When I caught the ball and ran, you didn't see a limp. Some people say I walk with a limp or whatever - there's nothing bothering me, man."
if we dont get davis or duce or someone...moats better be #2 on the depth chart. going with moats and westbrook in the backfield could be dangerous for opposing defenses. i really liked moats last yr.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 22, 2006, 05:18:43 PM
IF A RUNNING back arrives and departs without commenting or signing a contract, does he still make a sound?
That is one strained metaphor right there.
Why did Donovan McNabb have a Stephen Davis boner?
Quote from: MDS on August 22, 2006, 11:02:57 PM
Why did Donovan McNabb have a Stephen Davis boner?
Probably because he knows they can use all of the help they can get.
heard a rumor tonight igles are working to get tj duckett..that is incredibly accurate....any truth? boners...poppin
slap.. slap
Rams set to make an offer to Stephen Davis (http://www.theredzone.org/news/showarticle.asp?ArticleID=4232)
Damnit! The Eagles can't even sign an unwanted free agent right! This season is OVER! :(
Davis Visits, Doesn't Sign
Thursday, August 24, 2006
By Nick Wagoner
Senior Writer
A day after the hoopla surrounding the arrival of running back Stephen Davis at Rams Park, things had settled down considerably.
Davis, who was in town for a visit, a physical and a workout for Rams brass on Wednesday, left St. Louis without signing a contract and as of Thursday afternoon, nothing seemed imminent on that front.
We brought him in for a physical, gave him a little workout, coach Scott Linehan said. He looked like he is as good as ever. We'll see. We haven't moved any further than that.
Davis visited with Philadelphia on Monday and left there without coming to terms on an agreement as well. Davis had been thought of as one of the top backs in the league as recently as 2003.
In 2003, he posted a career-high 1,444 yards for Carolina, a number that still stands as a franchise record. For his career, Davis has rushed for 7,875 yards and 65 touchdowns in 10 seasons with Washington and the Panthers.
Despite his success in recent seasons, Davis has played in just 15 games the past two seasons, including a 2004 season in which he played in only a pair after a right knee injury that required microfracture surgery.
After parting ways with Carolina in the offseason, Davis waited until recently to begin looking for a new home. The Panthers released him on March 1 and Davis has waited patiently for another opportunity to come along and to ensure that he was in the best possible physical condition.
Linehan said Davis looked good in his workout Wednesday.
I just wanted to see him move, make sure there isn't a noticeable limp of any kind, Linehan said. I wanted to see him cut, mostly the cutting type things. He did some routes. He did a little bit of going through bags and agility type stuff, but nothing overly extensive other than we wanted to see his movements and make sure he looked like he is running pain free. He looked very good.
Since the Rams placed backup Marshall Faulk on the physically unable to perform list early in the preseason because of his own knee surgery, they have been in a perpetual search for a true No. 2 running back.
Tony Fisher currently holds the position, but he is more suited to a third-back type of role. St. Louis signed Moe Williams after failing to acquire Michael Bennett in a trade. Williams is also coming off microfracture surgery.
Fisher has eight carries for 35 yards and a touchdown and Williams has contributed 12 carries for 30 yards and a score in the preseason. Fred Russell has also made an impression during the exhibition games, but there is little doubt that Linehan and the Rams have been looking for more help at running back.
I don't think it was like we were keeping it a secret that we are still looking for a No. 2 type back,Linehan said. They have done an excellent job. We are just thin there. There wasn't anything at that point we were pursuing. Stephen is certainly a guy that's proven in the league and probably has a couple of good years left in him, but you don't know where he's at. It came up just recently that he was going to give it a go.
Although Davis came out of the workout and physical OK, it seems there is nothing certain on his future since he left town without signing a contract. Should Davis choose to become a Ram, there is a roster spot available following the release of cornerback Dwight Anderson.
Linehan said Thursday that Anderson's release had nothing to do with the anticipation of adding Davis.
It wasn't related,Linehan said. It really wasn't. It was just a matter of we are going to give guys some opportunities. We were looking at it down the road of who is going to play in this game. We made a decision that was going to be best for us going into this game that we kind of set the depth the way we want to have it for the game and he'd have a chance to catch on with somebody else.
His knees must be in quality condition for teams like the Rams and Eagles, with zero depth at RB, to pass on him.
With the taterskins signing Duckett, there is an extra majn in the backfield in Washington. I would love for the Eagles to make a run at Rock Cartright. I think he would be an excellent tough yardage man for us.
Quote from: methdeez on August 25, 2006, 01:02:44 PM
make a run at Rock Cartright
The fact that we have to talk about going for the skins' 4th RB as "mak(ing) a run" is really sad on many levels.
Because the Eagles definition of "market value" for free agents, is usually one 7th round draft pick for each pro-bowl reached. I can't imagine what we'd offer for Rock. A used handi-wipe?
It depends who used it and how thoroughly used it is.
unless CBUCK gets hurt, explain why they would add a back?
Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, and a healthy CBUCK are pretty much locks at RB. Unless one has an injury they wouldnt add another and keep 5 tailbacks on the roster.
CBUCK won't be healthy much longer.
buck can be healthy and just not be that any good anymore...being healthy is only part of it he still needs to be able to play
fwiw gibbs said after the duckett trade that all four backs were making the team
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2006, 02:44:30 PM
fwiw gibbs said after the duckett trade that all four backs were making the team
Exactly.
Quote from: MURP on August 25, 2006, 01:40:33 PM
unless CBUCK gets hurt, explain why they would add a back?
Westbrook, Moats, Mahe, and a healthy CBUCK are pretty much locks at RB. Unless one has an injury they wouldnt add another and keep 5 tailbacks on the roster.
B/C Cbuck, Moats and Mahe are mediocre to Crap.
You haven't seen enough of Moats to call him crap. In fact what you saw in meaningful regular season games last year was enough to call him promising. Which is pretty much the opposite of crap.
He hasn't done shtein in preseason. Big farging deal. Neither has Reggie Brown. Neither has Westbrook.
Westbrook has at least one TD to boast. I saw it.
you guys are all talking as fans instead of thinking like Reid. The question is not would YOU add a running back, the question is: Why would REID add a running back? Obviously he doesnt think they guys he has are crap.
He'd add a RB if health is an issue. If Buck can't play well tonight, and can't cut on those knees, then he'd probably be fine with adding one.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 25, 2006, 05:46:59 PM
He'd add a RB if health is an issue. If Buck can't play well tonight, and can't cut on those knees, then he'd probably be fine with adding one.
So what you're saying is if they don't have enough healthy RBs, they'll add one. That sounds a little fishy to me...
from pft
QuoteWe're hearing that free-agent running back Stephen Davis could be joining the Rams as soon as Friday.
Davis previously has visited the Eagles and the Rams. He was cut while injured in 2005 by the Panthers, and (as our pal Howard Balzer told us last week) will receive $275,000 from the Panthers in 2006 -- but only if he doesn't sign with another team.
Once he inks with the Rams (or anyone else), the Panthers are off the hook.
This gives rise to two problems for Davis. First, if he's cut by the Rams before the start of the season, he gets nothing from the Rams, or from the Panthers. Second, because he's guaranteed to make $275,000 this year, the extra benefit from playing is only $535,000, assuming he signs a one-year deal for the 10-year veteran minimum. If he has one more year in the tank, it might make sense to sit on the $275,000 in 2006, and come back in 2007 for one more year at the full $810,000.
Cheap-ass Eagles strike again.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 01, 2006, 12:03:23 PM
Cheap-ass Eagles strike again.
Lurie will be using the money off not signing Davis to buy more gold to put in that little bag that he wears around his neck.
:-D :-D
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 01, 2006, 01:01:12 PMLurie will be using the money off not signing Davis to buy more gold to put in that little bag that he wears around his neck.
and probably find a way to take razorgator to the next level to further screw the fanbase.
Davis official signed with Rams. Eagles suck.
This is an outrage! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
There goes the Superbowl.
Quote from: T_Section224 on September 01, 2006, 01:42:27 PM
and probably find a way to take razorgator to the next level to further screw the fanbase.
I got my Giants ticket off Razorgator yesterday & came away with moderate rectal tearing.
Not only do they mark up the ticket over what the seller wants, they toss on a $14 transaction fee & $16.50 shipping. I ended up paying $177 for a ticket the seller wanted $125 for.
The seller enclosed his phone number along with the ticket, so I'm buying some more off him directly now. It's still rape, but only more gentle.
that was nice of him
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 01, 2006, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: T_Section224 on September 01, 2006, 01:42:27 PM
and probably find a way to take razorgator to the next level to further screw the fanbase.
I got my Giants ticket off Razorgator yesterday & came away with moderate rectal tearing.
Not only do they mark up the ticket over what the seller wants, they toss on a $14 transaction fee & $16.50 shipping. I ended up paying $177 for a ticket the seller wanted $125 for.
The seller enclosed his phone number along with the ticket, so I'm buying some more off him directly now.
Congrats. You're getting the scalpers version of the reach around.
Speaking of moderate rectal tearing, whatever happened to chuggie?
severe rectal tearing.
Yeah, that's my bad.
poor guy
This thread rules!
PAd.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 01, 2006, 02:52:04 PM
Congrats. You're getting the scalpers version of the reach around.
At least they're using lotion now.
Back on topic: I'm glad I didn't draft Steven Jackson.