Quote. -- Receiver Todd Pinkston and running back Correll Buckhalter both left Friday morning's practice with injuries. Pinkston suffered an Achilles injury and will undergo an MRI. Buckhalter, who has lost two seasons to injury, injured his knee. W
Doesn't Buck know this is his HEALTHY season???
{potential} farg.
Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:poison
This is from the front page of the official site, btw
cut them both :D
Hard for me to get too upset over ToothPink. Brown and Lewis will be an improvement.
Can't say Buck surprises me, unfortunately. Makes the Westbrook holdout loom large, doesn't it?
Wonder if Dorsey has any fall plans...... :boom
no fear, Reggie Brown is the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice.
And so it begins...
Pinkston: meh
Buck: duh
Can we please just accept the fact that not only had Buck been subpar at many of the tasks that he has been assigned to on the field, but his knees are garbage. Cut him and lets never mention his name again, mm kay?
Farg, farg, farg...
And it figures the day I don't go something happens. Damn! Buck was looking so good too. >:(
It doesnt say how serious CBUCK's knee injury is, could be something small.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2005, 11:14:29 AM
Pinkston: meh
Buck: duh
Can we please just accept the fact that no only had Buck been subpar at many of the tasks that he has been assigned to on the field, but his knees are garbage. Cut him and let never mention his name again, mm kay?
not the point. Right now, this leaves a hold out in Westbrook and Moats as our RBs....with Mahe and Perry as backups (if Buck is badly hurt, it could be nothing). I'm not too worried about Pinkston, we're fine with Brown and Lewis backing up TO. If he is gone for a long time, who would you have as the 4th WR?
And in all honesty, I hope Pinkston isn't that badly hurt, but if he is and it gets Brown on the field sooner rather than later I won't be srying myself to sleep at night.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 11:15:59 AM
not the point. Right now, this leaves a hold out in Westbrook and Moats as our RBs....with Mahe and Perry as backups (if Buck is badly hurt, it could be nothing). I'm not too worried about Pinkston, we're fine with Brown and Lewis backing up TO. If he is gone for a long time, who would you have as the 4th WR?
Well, since McMullen seems to be dead set on proving his worthlessness, Jenkins probably deserves a look. He tore up good competition in college and as a fifth receiver may have some value. Or Maybe this Redd kid. Who knows, either way, I don't like being down to Moats and STILL not having any sort of inside runner, but anyone who is surprised by a Buckhalter injury at this point is still living in the first half of the 2002 NFCCG.
i dont think correll has any ligaments left to tear.
Relying on Buckhalter as the "big back" was always a sketchy idea, but I hope his injury is nothing serious. If it is serious, the Eagles will have to go small at RB or get some worthless bum veteran like Eddie George. Barf. I'd rather go small and let Ritchie & Parry line up in the I for the tough yards.
Pinkston? Well, I think he improved in many ways last year, and I think he makes the Eagles better. HOWEVAH, we all know the 4th receiver is little-used on the Eagles because of Westbrook basically being 4th on the WR depth chart, so this could open things up for Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown to really make a difference. L.J. and Westbrook can both line up at WR. Mahe too (I know, I know). A severe Pinkston injury creates uncertainly, but that might not be a bad thing right now. Shake it up!
farg hopefully he just tweeked it.
Keep hope alive! Keep hope alive! C-Bucky will perform at an incredible level this year. Just watch. He just didn't want Todd to feel alone going back to the locker room. That's all.
By the way, Pinkston hurt his Achilles? Has anyone ever heard of someone injuring their achilles and not be out for an entire season?
Quote from: Eaglez on August 05, 2005, 11:33:59 AM
farg hopefully he just tweeked it.
Keep hope alive! Keep hope alive! C-Bucky will perform at an incredible level this year. Just watch. He just didn't want Todd to feel alone going back to the locker room. That's all.
By the way, Pinkston hurt his Achilles? Has anyone ever heard of someone injuring their achilles and not be out for an entire season?
Yes, he'd miss the season if he tore/ruptured it, but if its strained, he'll miss a little bit of time.
If Buck is done again, I'd be on the phone right now with the agent for Jesse Chatman, assuming noone has signed him yet.
GET CHATMAN (if Buck's done, that is)
i may take a new approach to camp this season. i'm going to completely ignore it, injuried and all, and just be surprised at opening day. i'll be the only person in the stands asking where so-and-so is and why such-and-such is on the team.
would that be cool.
probably impossible to do though, huh?
i told you they should've traded for travis henry..............but did you listen?...............NOOOOOOOOOOO! ::)
Sorry Bucky...it was nice knowin ya!!
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Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:36:43 AM
Sorry Bucky...it was nice knowin ya!!
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Wtf are you talking about? There is NO report of an ACL anything.
Not for a zillion or so boarderline poser fans I've met.
Calm down woman...i'm speculating. Or am i not allowed to farg around and do that? I didn't see that rule any where.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:39:02 AM
Calm down woman...i'm speculating. Or am i not allowed to farg around and do that? I didn't see that rule any where.
Why would even
do that though? ::)
EAGLEZ!! Where is our update on your boy?!?!?
Please...everyone is thinking it (except those in denial) so i'm posting it. Take it easy..if anyone should be getting their panties in a bunch, it should be Eaglez. He may need to sponsor someone new.
Buckhalter is garbage. Get him outta here. His knees are made out of packing peanuts, he's an idiot and he can't catch. Cut him.
I'm on the Chatman bandwagon.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2005, 11:42:47 AM
Buckhalter is garbage. Get him outta here. His knees are made out of packing peanuts, he's an idiot and he can't catch. Cut him.
I'm on the Chatman bandwagon.
Good to have you aboard, sir.
Hopefully Buck is OK, but if he is not - the Chatman train will be leaving the station soon.
who the farg is chatman?
Wonder what Eddie George is doing right now.
I don't want to bring in anyone. We have guys who know the system and are competing for a job, and I'd really like the Eagles to keep two FB's (or have a TE that can play some FB/H-back) and get the tough short yardage done with some Jon Ritchie. There's a reason a guy like Jesse Chatman doesn't have a job.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 11:44:34 AM
who the farg is chatman?
Jesse Chatman, formerly of the Chargers. A short, bowling ball of a back.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 11:44:34 AM
who the farg is chatman?
Jesse Chatman - ex-Charger - big body RB
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:45:09 AM
Wonder what Eddie George is doing right now.
Unsuccessfully trying to get the fork out of him...the fork that was stuck in him last year that says "I'M FARGING COOKED AS AN NFL RB". :D
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:45:09 AM
Wonder what Eddie George is doing right now.
He could be working out really hard, hoping for that last shot at glory, and I wouldn't give a rat's farging ass. The guy has been washed up for 5 years. The Eagles would be better off lining up Calvin Armstrong at RB.
McNabb talking about Buck as if his injury isn't too serious.
If this is a serious injury, all it does is give leverage to Westbrook. So i'm willing to start a gang of thugs to go and drag his butt to Lehigh. Any takers?!
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:48:53 AM
If this is a serious injury, all it does is give leverage to Westbrook. So i'm willing to start a gang of thugs to go and drag his butt to Lehigh. Any takers?!
You won't have to. He'll show up on Monday regardless.
My fingers are crossed...because Brian Westbrook is to Donovan McNabb what Renee Zellweger was to Tom Cruise baby.
Even if Buckhalter is fine he should be cut.
...with a knife.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:51:44 AM
My fingers are crossed...because Brian Westbrook is to Donovan McNabb what Renee Zellweger was to Tom Cruise baby.
A 'beard'?
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:51:44 AM
My fingers are crossed...because Brian Westbrook is to Donovan McNabb what Renee Zellweger was to Tom Cruise baby.
You're a moron. Greg Lewis deserves better.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:45:09 AM
Wonder what Eddie George is doing right now.
having his cane fitted
Both injuries don't sound too serious. McNabb says Bucky appears OK, and if Pinky suffered an Achilles rupture, you wouldn't need an MRI to figure that out.
And Chatman was given the same RFA tender as Westbrook: 1st round compensation....The Bolts ain't giving him up.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 11:48:30 AM
McNabb talking about Buck as if his injury isn't too serious.
Interview with McNabb?
Quote from: 4and26 on August 05, 2005, 11:57:02 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 11:48:30 AM
McNabb talking about Buck as if his injury isn't too serious.
Interview with McNabb?
Post practice press conference.
And Larry, I agree with you on Pinkston. They usually know immediately when an Achilles is torn or ruptured.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 05, 2005, 11:53:49 AM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 05, 2005, 11:51:44 AM
My fingers are crossed...because Brian Westbrook is to Donovan McNabb what Renee Zellweger was to Tom Cruise baby.
You're a moron. Greg Lewis deserves better.
G Lew would personally like to smack you up because he liked that movie and thinks he could be the next Rod Tidwell.
Greg Lewis >>> Rod Tidwell
Brian Westbrook >>> Renee Zellweger
Donnie Mac >>> Tom Cruise
The comparisons are laughable! :boo
Well if it's any consolation for ya...you can be Tidwell's militant brother. What...maybe you wanna be Bob Sugar the OTHER agent.
And, if they wouldn't have this damn movie on seven times a month, i might not know who these people are.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 11:44:34 AM
who the farg is chatman?
Jesse Chatman - ex-Charger - big body RB
Quote from: Zanshin on August 05, 2005, 11:46:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 11:44:34 AM
who the farg is chatman?
Jesse Chatman, formerly of the Chargers. A short, bowling ball of a back.
428 yards and 3 td's in 3 seasons?
pass the beer nuts
Looks I don't care if the guy averages 2.9 yards a carry. If he gets two yards running up the gut on third and one when everyone knows he's going to be running up the gut we could use him. THAT is what this team is missing. A bowling ball who doesn't have to dance around to make a first down on third and short.
Quote from: Larry on August 05, 2005, 11:56:39 AM
Both injuries don't sound too serious. McNabb says Bucky appears OK, and if Pinky suffered an Achilles rupture, you wouldn't need an MRI to figure that out.
And Chatman was given the same RFA tender as Westbrook: 1st round compensation....The Bolts ain't giving him up.
The Bolts released him, bro.
frank is on WIP right now and all but said he thinks Pinkston ruptured his achilles...buck on the other hand didnt seem to bad, perhaps just some soreness...
Reuben Frank on WIP:
Pinky looks to be the worst one. He went down the sideline on a deep route and got tangled up with Matt Ware. Pinky went down awkwardly and tried to get up but couldn't.
Buck limped off the field and it does not seem to be a big concern. Sounds like it could be the effects of him getting so much work the past two days. Or it could be some scar tissue bothering him. But they think he will be OK.
Chatman doesnt have a job because he failed his physical.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 12:23:52 PM
frank is on WIP right now and all but said he thinks Pinkston ruptured his achilles...buck on the other hand didnt seem to bad, perhaps just some soreness...
Is that the same thing as saying it will probably rain today, but then again it might not?
I feel bad for Pinkston if he's done. I really do. :(
are TO & westy smiling inside?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 12:18:24 PM
Quote from: Larry on August 05, 2005, 11:56:39 AM
Both injuries don't sound too serious. McNabb says Bucky appears OK, and if Pinky suffered an Achilles rupture, you wouldn't need an MRI to figure that out.
And Chatman was given the same RFA tender as Westbrook: 1st round compensation....The Bolts ain't giving him up.
The Bolts released him, bro.
Ooops. Nice to be up to date on things. :-D
And the Pinky news is a little distressing. I wonder if the Lehigh turf had anything to do with it. :'(
I'm confident that Lewis will step in for Pinkston.
And Reuben Frank said that Buck seems to be OK
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 12:27:48 PM
I feel bad for Pinkston if he's done. I really do.
As an Eagles fan and tall(ish) skinny man, I've always tried to root for Pinkston, but I just can't say I'm that upset about losing him. Getting Brown and Greg Lewis on the field should be beneficial and I think that Lewis can do the same sort of 'run deep and draw coverage out of the middle of the field' sort of thing that Pinky has done. So like I said, no tears from this guy.
Just talked to my dad and he said if Pinkston's achilles was RUPTURED, they'd have known it right away because the foot completely flops. There is nothing to hold the foot up. This is why the Achilles rupture injury is usually one of the first ones to be reported when it happens. it can be reported from the field.
It could be a tear, just depends on the severity of it as to if/when he'd come back this year. He said ANY strain, bruise or tear (slight or not) of the Achilles makes it almost impossible to walk on it for a little bit without severe pain.
just wanted to pass that along.
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It's up to YOU, Greg Lewis!
It really stinks that Todd's hurt. I don't see Reggie Brown as being a legit #2 yet and apparently Billy's not the brightest, most confident receiver in the leauge. Ugh. SONSABITCHES!
Hasn't he had issues with his Achilles before? I'm thinking of a Dallas game within the last few years... ???
I dont want to jump to any conclusions but IF pink is out for the year or even an extended period of time, I think our WR tandem of TO and GLew w/ Reggie in the slot is better than TO and Pink on the ends with 84 playing sultan. Just my thoughts, although I hope Todd is ok.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 05, 2005, 12:36:45 PM
Hasn't he had issues with his Achilles before? I'm thinking of a Dallas game within the last few years... ???
I think that was turf toe....b/c he missed the NYG game that Feely pissed away the next week.
Wasn't it this time last year that we were all worried about a potential season-ending injury to Koy? :P
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 12:37:36 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 05, 2005, 12:36:45 PM
Hasn't he had issues with his Achilles before? I'm thinking of a Dallas game within the last few years... ???
I think that was turf toe....b/c he missed the NYG game that Feely pissed away the next week.
It was Turf Toe.
QuotePinkston, Buckhalter Suffer Injuries
BETHLEHEM, Pa. – Two key Eagles left Friday morning's practice with injuries.
Receiver Todd Pinkston was carted off the field with an injured Achilles, and running back Correll Buckhalter limped off with a knee injury. The severity of both injuries has yet to be announced. Pinkston will undergo an MRI.
After practice, Buckhalter limped out of the team's workout facility and, before getting into his car, said the knee was "just sore."
"[It's] nothing serious," Buckhalter said. "I'm alright."
Pinkston's occurred when he was tripped up on a fly route down the sideline. Pinkston was covered closely by cornerback Matt Ware, tripped while the ball was in the air and remained down for several minutes before limping to the medical tent.
Buckhalter missed all of last season after tearing the patellar tendon in his right knee during the preseason. He missed all of the 2002 season after tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee in minicamp.
Receiver Terrell Owens, who is day-to-day with left groin inflammation, did not practice Friday morning.
–Andy Schwartz
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2005, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 12:27:48 PM
I feel bad for Pinkston if he's done. I really do.
As an Eagles fan and tall(ish) skinny man, I've always tried to root for Pinkston, but I just can't say I'm that upset about losing him. Getting Brown and Greg Lewis on the field should be beneficial and I think that Lewis can do the same sort of 'run deep and draw coverage out of the middle of the field' sort of thing that Pinky has done. So like I said, no tears from this guy.
i'm not tall and skinny. but i am with you on this...i tried to like pinkston, and even defended him in some kind of way...but he has not improved at all in over 2 seasons. thats just not good enough for me.
i'm fine with brown or lewis seeing more time.
If he walked to the medical tent, its IMPOSSIBLE that its a ruptured Achilles.
Buck probably has knee fatigue...working that hard on a knee that didn't play last year. Understandable. Tis what camp is for.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 12:40:46 PM
knee fatigue.
that sounds like an injury from a Madden game.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 12:40:46 PM
knee fatigue.
that sounds like an injury from a Madden game.
:-D
Speaking of Madden, McNabb was asked questions about Madden '06 and his ratings on there in his PC today. He said he heard that Tony Gonzalez was faster than him and he know "no TE is faster than me". And said he is rated like a 96 or 98 on the game.
I think the EA guys were there b/c you could hear the PR people say the players were going to be playing the game in the lounge and they could watch.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 12:40:46 PM
knee fatigue.
that sounds like an injury from a Madden game.
or Oregon Trail. Hope Correll doesn't die. :-\
He actually has chloera of the knee. Done for.
Todd Pinkston has dyptheria.
Todd Pinkston is not improving.
Todd Pinkston is dead.
I <heart> Oregon Trail.
Just talked to my dad and he said if Pinkston's achilles was RUPTURED, they'd have known it right away
yes but the eagles havent announced anything yet so it could be ruptured
as for that article its very confusing...says he was carted off and then it says he stayed down for a few minutes then limped to the tent\
fwiw frank said that he didnt walk on it at all
wow i just heard the mcnabb press conf where he said "its tough...we had one receiver go down yesterday and todd went down today"
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 05, 2005, 12:50:54 PM
Todd Pinkston has dyptheria.
Todd Pinkston is not improving.
Todd Pinkston is dead.
I <heart> Oregon Trail.
:-D
You've got a broken wagon wheel.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 12:53:14 PM
Just talked to my dad and he said if Pinkston's achilles was RUPTURED, they'd have known it right away
yes but the eagles havent announced anything yet so it could be ruptured
as for that article its very confusing...says he was carted off and then it says he stayed down for a few minutes then limped to the tent\
fwiw frank said that he didnt walk on it at all
wow i just heard the mcnabb press conf where he said "its tough...we had one receiver go down yesterday and todd went down today"
Like I said, if he limped to the tent, it would be pretty tough to be ruptured. From what I read in the article, he was down, limped to the tent and then was carted to the trainers room. TO did that yesterday. Walked off, went to the tent for treatment, got in the cart and went to the trainers room.
And that little clip you heard of McNabb? Lets just say it was a
clip of a long interview....being played on purpose to get more calls in to the station.
no point on speculating about Pink. When the Eagles know, we will know.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 12:57:51 PM
no point on speculating about Pink. When the Eagles know, we will know.
There's no point to 99% of posts on this board, including the one I'm posting right now.
he was asked a direct question and gave a direct answer...dont worry its not the end of the season its not even a big deal...it just shows that he really does despise TO...
no point in speculating about anything.
:CF
is
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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 12:59:57 PM
he was asked a direct question and gave a direct answer...dont worry its not the end of the season its not even a big deal...it just shows that he really does despise TO...
No, it really doesn't IGY lol...but since trying to get you to understand that is clearly not worth the waste of my time, I'll leave it at that.
QuotePinkston, Buckhalter Suffer Injuries
BETHLEHEM, Pa. – Two key Eagles left Friday morning's practice with injuries.
Receiver Todd Pinkston was carted off the field with an injured Achilles, and running back Correll Buckhalter limped off with a knee injury. The severity of both injuries has yet to be announced. Pinkston will undergo an MRI.
After practice, Buckhalter limped out of the team's workout facility and, before getting into his car, said the knee was "just sore."
"[It's] nothing serious," Buckhalter said. "I'm alright."
Pinkston's occurred when he was tripped up on a fly route down the sideline. Pinkston was covered closely by cornerback Matt Ware, tripped while the ball was in the air and remained down for several minutes before limping to the medical tent.
Buckhalter missed all of last season after tearing the patellar tendon in his right knee during the preseason. He missed all of the 2002 season after tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee in minicamp.
Receiver Terrell Owens, who is day-to-day with left groin inflammation, did not practice Friday morning.
–Andy Schwartz
link (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_0p.asp?ID=13173)
no point on speculating about Pink. When the Eagles know, we will know.
good point
see updated scoreboard below
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 01:00:20 PM
no point in speculating about anything.
sure there is, but with injuries its pretty pointless.
I speculate that L.J. Smith will be listed on the injury report with some sort of back strain at least once during the regular season. I am psychic.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 05, 2005, 01:03:09 PM
I speculate that L.J. Smith will be listed on the injury report with some sort of back strain at least once during the regular season. I am psychic.
As LJ's official sponsor I would like to say that I don't care.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 05, 2005, 12:36:18 PM
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It's up to YOU, Greg Lewis!
Team G Lew proudly accepts the role of the #2 WR if indeed Pinkston is down for the count. We are confident that our mad skilz will be enough to compliment TO and make for plenty of exciting moments this season. You can count on us!!
i laughed out load the other day too...i had to change my pants :paranoid
Laughing out load sounds like something hbionic would do.
I've had girlfriends gag out load. But they definitely weren't laughing...
Pee Wee got arrested for doing that once.
Thank God for PFT... Ha:
QuoteSee below from profootballtalk.com:
PINKSTON OUT FOR THE YEAR
A day after receiver Terrell Owens pulled his groin (and hurt his upper leg), two more key members of the Eagles offense went down with training camp injuries.
Bob Kent of PhiladelphiaEagles.com reports that receiver Todd Pinkston suffered an Achilles' injury and running back Correll Buckhalter sustained yet another knee injury.
A league source tells us that Pinkston has a suffered torn Achilles' tendon, and is out for the year.
OK, so let's speculate...
Who are #s 4 and 5 when the season starts?
I say Jenkins and McMullen. In that order. Pinky being hurt may have extended Wilbur's career by a year.
Don't know where PFT has their info from since my source at camp says that nothing at all has been determined.....
not saying they are wrong, I am just wondering where they possibly get their info from.
PG is talking to other sources that say PFT is full of dooky.
But, I feel like speculating anyway.
4 - Jenkins
5 - Redd
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 05, 2005, 01:54:55 PM
PG is talking to other sources that say PFT is full of dooky.
He didn't say that, he just said that he hasn't heard a thing about it....and he's right there in Lehigh.
Since we're in a speculative mood, I'd say there's a shot McMullen gets the #2 spot.
Quote from: Larry on August 05, 2005, 01:56:06 PM
Since we're in a speculative mood, I'd say there's a shot McMullen gets the #2 spot.
Larry has gone back to hitting the glass dick. Crackhead.
Right, so how could PFT have heard anything from a "league source"? Dooky.
Quote from: Larry on August 05, 2005, 01:56:06 PM
Since we're in a speculative mood, I'd say there's a shot McMullen gets the #2 spot.
I don't know if replacing a tall, fast receiver with a tall, slow receiver with a mad case of the dropsies.
I say throw Lewis over there if need be.
Quote from: Larry on August 05, 2005, 01:56:06 PM
Since we're in a speculative mood, I'd say there's a shot McMullen gets the #2 spot.
How's the trade for Runyan coming along?
Can't say I'd be all that broken up about Pinkston being done for the year. In fact, the only real downside is that it might delay his departure from the Eagles.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 05, 2005, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: Larry on August 05, 2005, 01:56:06 PM
Since we're in a speculative mood, I'd say there's a shot McMullen gets the #2 spot.
I don't know if replacing a tall, fast receiver with a tall, slow receiver with a mad case of the dropsies.
I say throw Lewis over there if need be.
I think Reid wants a tall guy on the outside; a lot of those bombs to Pinky were purposefully underthrown so he could use his height advantage -- since only the little corners could keep up with him -- to make a play on the ball. The last time Pinky went out with an injury (Dallas game a few years back), it was McMullen who replaced him on the outside.
As for Runyan, that deal was contigent upon us selecting a guard early in the draft 8).
Westbrook would play split out a lot more with Moats in the backfield.
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 05, 2005, 01:30:09 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 05, 2005, 01:26:33 PM
:-D That actually made me laugh out load. :yay
:puke
What can I say, it was funny. :paranoid
Nothing in this thread is funny. Stupid, yes!
Speaking of stupid...oh, nevermind that was just stupid... :paranoid
Larry, as a guy who used to think highly of McMullen and who still would like to see him use his size and athletic ability to do something good, I think you're nuts if you think Billy Mac would leapfrog Greg Lewis to the #2 WR spot.
The only #2 in Billy's future is whether he might be the #2 receiver cut. He is wickedly inconsistent.
Larry, watching McMullen for more than one play as a #2 will surely make you get on your knees and pray for Pinkston.
I agree with FF...
1. TO
2. Greg Lewis
3. Downtown Reggie Brown
4. Justin Jenkins
5. Robert Redd
Or maybe the Birds look at the waiver wire? Maybe they'll ask for Josh Reed from Buffalo in a deal for Simon?
from all ive read though, Josh Reed has sucked balls. :paranoid
What's Freeman up to these days?
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 02:32:17 PM
from all ive read though, Josh Reed has sucked balls. :paranoid
He has.
But I can see Reid saying "a change of scenery could help him, we think"
No way they give up Moulds or Evans
Begin the TO for Moulds threads!
Simon for Jerry Porter! :evil
Can't say I'd be all that broken up about Pinkston being done for the year
pure ignorance
pinky is very valuable as he is the clear number two WR...it isnt about how good you may or may not think he is but look big picture to what an injury to him would do as far as moving every other wr a slot up...it aint pretty
Spads is gettin hit with the "GET KOREN ROBINSON" questions. I had totally forgotten about him until someone dredged up his name.
Thank God Jerry Rice is signed, or else it could be worse, I guess.
isn't Koren Robinson going to be suspended for the year?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 02:56:42 PM
Thank God Jerry Rice is signed, or else it could be worse, I guess.
Just think, the Daily News could find a pic of him with the Predater dreds for their back page.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 05, 2005, 02:57:12 PM
isn't Koren Robinson going to be suspended for the year?
Nope...but he's in an substance abuse (alcohol) rehab facility till the end of the month and "hopes" that a team takes a chance on him.
If Reid goes for Koren Robinson you know the team is desperate. Id be very surprised if the Eagles go that route.
if that's the case, i'd take a shot at him. just lock up the liquor cabinets and make him earn his money.
Let's trade for Thrash!
If we want a pure #2 guy, why not wait for Peerless to get shtein canned. He sucks as a 1, but was more than serviceable as a 2 in Buffalo.
Did Spadaro update Pink's injury yet?
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 03:01:14 PM
If Reid goes for Koren Robinson you know the team is desperate. Id be very surprised if the Eagles go that route.
seriously...
he spent all summer saying "we'd be fine without TO, someone else will step up" and then he'd go and panic to replace pinkston!?
think people!
I'd bet that Reid would unearth Na Brown before he signed Koren.
You know the walrus Holmgren would tell Reid that Koren is garbage.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 02:50:19 PM
Can't say I'd be all that broken up about Pinkston being done for the year
pure ignorance
pinky is very valuable as he is the clear number two WR...it isnt about how good you may or may not think he is but look big picture to what an injury to him would do as far as moving every other wr a slot up...it aint pretty
Meh. Giving the other WRs a shot at game time can't hurt. It gives Brown time and experience and that's important. Pinky wasn't going to be our #2 forever, or probably much beyond this season, so I'm not gonna cry about him being done if that's the case.
Gari Scott. ^-^
Reid thought he could win with Pinkston and Thrash. TO and Greg Lewis are just a little bit better than that combo. :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 02:56:42 PM
Thank God Jerry Rice is signed, or else it could be worse, I guess.
FWIW... I'm pretty sure I read some "Denver wants to send Rice and Dayne for Dexter Wynn" threads this a.m. over at EMB :paranoid
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 02:50:19 PM
Can't say I'd be all that broken up about Pinkston being done for the year
pure ignorance
pinky is very valuable as he is the clear number two WR...it isnt about how good you may or may not think he is but look big picture to what an injury to him would do as far as moving every other wr a slot up...it aint pretty
Right because seeing if G. Lew can be the #2 and having Reggie Brown getting time at the #3 spot is a bad thing in the big picture. Moron.
You know...Little John Smith better be ready to step it up this year too. With no Chad Lewis to fall back on at TE, no Pinky as the deep threat...LJ better be ready for a 60-catch year.
As much fun as it is to poke fun at Pinky and whatnot, losing him hurts the depth of this team.
Quote from: terpseagles on August 05, 2005, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 02:56:42 PM
Thank God Jerry Rice is signed, or else it could be worse, I guess.
FWIW... I'm pretty sure I read some "Denver wants to send Rice and Dayne for Dexter Wynn" threads this a.m. over at EMB :paranoid
Yeah - the guy who started that thread was snorting massive amounts of cocaine.
The site didn't say Pinkston is out for the year so why is everyone talking like he is?
Because ProFootballTalk did.
Because a torn achilles = season ender.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 03:12:17 PM
Quote from: terpseagles on August 05, 2005, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 02:56:42 PM
Thank God Jerry Rice is signed, or else it could be worse, I guess.
FWIW... I'm pretty sure I read some "Denver wants to send Rice and Dayne for Dexter Wynn" threads this a.m. over at EMB :paranoid
Yeah - the guy who started that thread was snorting massive amounts of cocaine.
Was it Koren Robinson ? They didn't let me have internet access back when I was in rehab.... but come to think of it, I don't think the Internet had been invented when I was in rehab.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 03:14:08 PM
Because a torn achilles = season ender.
But other than PFT's blurb, we have nothing else claiming this.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 03:12:56 PM
The site didn't say Pinkston is out for the year so why is everyone talking like he is?
It's a refreshing change of pace from hearing about T.O. cutting himself shaving and how he's not talking to the cooking staff up at Lehigh after they burned his french toast.
$50 says Eckel drops Kevin "I'm the 6th WR in Detroit" Johnson's name in a column tomorrow...
Did he even get carted off? Achilles tendon injuries, from what everyone says are one of the most painful. Could he walk off if he tore it? Remember Dilfer? Man, he dropped to the ground in a split second and was screaming in pain.
That is if the source is true. Waiting to see what Spadaro says.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 03:18:50 PM
Did he even get carted off? Achilles tendon injuries, from what everyone says are one of the most painful. Could he walk off if he tore it? Remember Dilfer? My good he dropped to the ground in a split second and was screaming in pain.
That is if the source is true. Waiting to see what Spadaro says.
Read through this thread.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 03:11:31 PM
You know...Little John Smith better be ready to step it up this year too. With no Chad Lewis to fall back on at TE, no Pinky as the deep threat...LJ better be ready for a 60-catch year.
As much fun as it is to poke fun at Pinky and whatnot, losing him hurts the depth of this team.
LJ will catch 50+ this year. So sayeth, me.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 02:50:19 PM
Can't say I'd be all that broken up about Pinkston being done for the year
pure ignorance
pinky is very valuable as he is the clear number two WR...it isnt about how good you may or may not think he is but look big picture to what an injury to him would do as far as moving every other wr a slot up...it aint pretty
I couldn't agree more. Sure, it's fashionable to bash Pinkston, but it's also uninformed. Pink haters base their comments on one thing: watching him avoid a hit over and over on sports center. Wahoo. That doesn't mean shtein.
He's a vet with tons of experience in this system, with this QB. He's cheap. His ypc are awesome. His speed and hands downfield keep safeties further back than they wanna be, opening up the middle for all kinds of Westbrook and McNabb shenanigans. He's durable (so far) and his blocking makes up in tenacity for the force his slight frame lacks.. a lot better than you would expect from a toothpick. Losing Pink would be a serious blow.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2005, 03:16:19 PM
$50 says Eckel drops Kevin "I'm the 6th WR in Detroit" Johnson's name in a column tomorrow...
Who would bet AGAINST that?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 03:20:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 02:50:19 PM
Can't say I'd be all that broken up about Pinkston being done for the year
pure ignorance
pinky is very valuable as he is the clear number two WR...it isnt about how good you may or may not think he is but look big picture to what an injury to him would do as far as moving every other wr a slot up...it aint pretty
I couldn't agree more. Sure, it's fashionable to bash Pinkston, but it's also uninformed. Pink haters base their comments on one thing: watching him avoid a hit over and over on sports center. Wahoo. That doesn't mean shtein.
He's a vet with tons of experience in this system, with this QB. He's cheap. His ypc are awesome. His speed and hands downfield keep safeties further back than they wanna be, opening up the middle for all kinds of Westbrook and McNabb shenanigans. He's durable (so far) and his blocking makes up in tenacity for the force his slight frame lacks.. a lot better than you would expect from a toothpick. Losing Pink would be a serious blow.
I hated Pinkston before that, and way before it was cool.
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/DAPDGLKHDKIP/080505-pinky.jpg)
Looks like he's walking off here. He's not sitting down. Trying to be optimistic. Not gonna panic unless we find out for sure it's worth panicking about.
Pinkston's tall and he's fast and when he tries can make some good catches... so can Greg Lewis. In fact, other than height the only edge I give to Pinkston is he's got more league time than Lewis. That's it. Sure it's en vogue to bash Pinkston, but he doesn't bring much to the table other than he's fast, and it's been said time and time again that Greg Lewis is the fastest wide receiver on the Eagles. Other than not having the experience in the league (which people over inflate as a positive when comparing young players to older player) I don't see what clearly puts him ahead of Greg Lewis...
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 03:25:30 PM
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/DAPDGLKHDKIP/080505-pinky.jpg)
Looks like he's walking off here. He's not sitting down. Trying to be optimistic. Not gonna panic unless we find out for sure it's worth panicking about.
That picture's two days old. :)
That picture was taken days ago.
And Pinkston bashing isn't based on one or two or three plays where he avoided contact. It's based on years of underachieving and a basic lack of productivity. I, and obviously others, feel that someone else could produce more from the #2 spot than Pinkston has. Is that person on our roster right now? Who knows. But I don't mind getting a chance to find out.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2005, 03:25:22 PMI hated Pinkston before that, and way before it was cool.
You also hate Five-Fo, who is also valuable. It's your thing.
Pinkston's speed is the most useful thing. If he is gone though, what is a realistic replacement? and I mean outside of the team. Trade? Signing? Koren Robinson is not realistic, obviously.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2005, 03:28:42 PMAnd Pinkston bashing isn't based on one or two or three plays where he avoided contact.
He was not widely vilified on this board before the alligator arm episodes last year.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 03:30:13 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2005, 03:25:22 PMI hated Pinkston before that, and way before it was cool.
You also hate Five-Fo, who is also valuable. It's your thing.
That hate is based on his inflated stats and the run defense never being better than average.
Oddly enough, I don't base my opinions on what goes on on this board.
I've said it before, I tried for years to abide his skinny ass, but he comes up small at bad times and if someone else is forced into the starting lineup (since that seems to be the only way Reid will let someone else play) and we can see what they have to offer, I see no problem with that.
If he's out, he's out. No sense crying about it, I agree. I value him higher than most other do though, so I hope he's alright.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2005, 03:33:29 PMOddly enough, I don't base my opinions on what goes on on this board.
So when you said "Pinkston bashing isn't..." you weren't talking about Pink bashing generally--only about your own?
Of course you don't base your opinion on this board. But it is a fact that he was not widely hated in this forum until the overly publicized episodes last year. Taking this board as a weathervane for fan opinion, I continue to disagree with you: most Pink bashing is ignorant.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2005, 03:33:29 PMOddly enough, I don't base my opinions on what goes on on this board.
So when you said "Pinkston bashing isn't..." you weren't talking about Pink bashing generally--only about your own?
Actually, yes. I was only talking about my own bashing. I try not to speak for others, but I guess I can see how you thought I was there.
About half of everything you find anywhere is going to be worse than the other half. Still, I'll deal with the anti-Pinkston bandwagoners as long as it means not everyone thinks every palyer we've got is super duper.
Now when we get to a situation where most everyone thinks every player sucks ...
Right because seeing if G. Lew can be the #2 and having Reggie Brown getting time at the #3 spot is a bad thing in the big picture
yeah lets just mess around and see if an unproven player and a rookie can fill the 2 and 3 spots on a team thats supposed to win the superbowl
youre talking like the birds were 4-12 last year...sure why not just try some youngsters this year...see if it all works out
Until someone else gets a chance to be the #2 in this offense we will never know how productive Pinkston is or isnt. Maybe Greg Lewis will show that Pinkston was a really valuable asset. Maybe Greg Lewis will show that Pinkston isnt that good and any half decent WR could perform in this offense.
pinkston sucks
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 03:54:55 PM
Until someone else gets a chance to be the #2 in this offense we will never know how productive Pinkston is or isnt. Maybe Greg Lewis will show that Pinkston was a really valuable asset. Maybe Greg Lewis will show that Pinkston isnt that good and any half decent WR could perform in this offense.
Holy shtein! Someone gets it!
Quote from: mhunt on August 05, 2005, 03:55:05 PM
pinkston sucks
Holy shtein! Someone gets it!
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 03:54:55 PM
Until someone else gets a chance to be the #2 in this offense we will never know how productive Pinkston is or isnt. Maybe Greg Lewis will show that Pinkston was a really valuable asset. Maybe Greg Lewis will show that Pinkston isnt that good and any half decent WR could perform in this offense.
Buddha speaks. Of course you're right. And if Pink is out, then we're about to find out. I'd rather not be forced to learn it by circumstances like these however.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2005, 03:33:29 PMOddly enough, I don't base my opinions on what goes on on this board.
So when you said "Pinkston bashing isn't..." you weren't talking about Pink bashing generally--only about your own?
Of course you don't base your opinion on this board. But it is a fact that he was not widely hated in this forum until the overly publicized episodes last year. Taking this board as a weathervane for fan opinion, I continue to disagree with you: most Pink bashing is ignorant.
NFCCG vs the Panthers was the last straw for me there.
then lost in the lights (LIAR)
then farging cramps in the superbowl. (DRINK SOME GODDAMN WATER!) christ, he should know by his size that he probably gets dehydrated taking a piss.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 03:57:15 PM
I'd rather not be forced to learn it by circumstances like these however.
not a gambler eh Dio? ;)
What if Greg Lewis is fargin amazing? ;D
if greg lewis was so amazing do you not think reid and company would know this...and move him ahead of pinky on the depth chart
either way its just stupid to not care if pinky was out for the year...dont even know why we are discussing this
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2005, 04:04:15 PM
if greg lewis was so amazing do you not think reid and company would know this...and move him ahead of pinky on the depth chart
your talking about a coach who STARTED JAMES THRASH at #1 for years. I think losing Pink hurts the team right now (if in fact he is out), but im not going to pretend there isnt a possible positive outcome from it.
Pink is done
rupturing his Achilles tendon (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=32072)
The only positive take on the situation I see is that you have to assume that the Eagles are going to lose at least 3 people for the season every year. Out of everyone on the team Pinkston isn't on the top of the list of players that we just can't afford to lose. Thankfully Buck wasn't hurt because he is a lot more important than Pinkston. On top of that whether Pinkston is very important to this team or not, he only caught one TD last year and none in the playoffs. That is just the positive look.
Thanks for waiting 5 hours to break news that they knew from the time he went down on the field. ::)
Ok, then...let the non-speculative talk begin....
SON OF A... !!!
I love the Pinkston underachiever bs. Those who use it clearly don't understand what the word means. When has Pinkston ever shown he had the talent and ability to be a superstar gamebreaker receiver? He never has. He just doesn't have the genes of a TO - he'll never be a big huge hulking receiver who can dominate a game. He is what he is - he's got a frail frame and good speed and that has translated into being a very solid #2 receiver when paired with a true #1 - the guy led the league in catches over 40 yards - in fact he averages more big play catches per year of his career than many of the big star receivers. That's what he does - beat defenses deep when they fail to respect his speed b/c they are worried about guys like Owens and Westbrook.
This underachiever tag is for guys like Corey Simon, Vincente Padilla, Derrick Coleman, etc. - guys who have the physical tools to be superstars, but just don't put in the work necessary to get there, not a skinny as a rail thin football player who has reached his limited potential. If you expected more from him shame on you. Just because he was drafted in the second round, doesn't mean he had the talent of a second rounder.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 04:22:14 PM
Pink is done
rupturing his Achilles tendon (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=32072)
I'd better cancel that order now ...
Well now that it's official I've got to say it made by stomach drop, but just a little. Best of luck, Todd, you're probably gonna need it.
REG-GIE
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Eagles will probably end up giving a 6th for Kevin Johnson. No, that isn't a joke either. There's no guarantee he'd make the team anyway with their crop.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 04:28:45 PM
Eagles will probably end up giving a 6th for Kevin Johnson. No, that isn't a joke either. There's no guarantee he'd make the team anyway with their crop.
::)
I'd rather see them take a flyer on Koren. at least he has upside.....
and a unbelieveable downside.
his upside is the bottom of a shotglass
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 04:30:55 PM
his upside is the bottom of a shotglass
THAT'S MY UPSIDE TOO!
Kevin Johnson has done more in this league than Pinkston has to his credit. He was the Brown's leading receiver for a couple years, and does have experience with Mcnabb.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 04:35:02 PM
Kevin Johnson has done more in this league than Pinkston has to his credit. He was the Brown's leading receiver for a couple years, and does have experience with Mcnabb.
Dude. Who are you? What are you talking about? Buckhalter has skills? Kevin Johnson is on his way to town? Crack is delicious? Cut it out.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 04:35:02 PM
Kevin Johnson has done more in this league than Pinkston has to his credit. He was the Brown's leading receiver for a couple years, and does have experience with Mcnabb.
Wh-wh-what? :o
Well I guess if there was a Team Pinkston, I'd be his sponser.
I've spent the last 3 years defending Pinkston from all this haters, and as someone pointed out, he was what he was....a solid #2 WR when he played next to a solid #1. He will be missed, but I do believe one or both of Greg and Reggie will step up this year.
Its sad, neither of my favorite players are looking like they'll be Eagles much longer.
As for soemone calling Corey Simon and underacheiver....Maybe in work ethic, but as Ray Diddy pointed out, he is a top 6-8 DT in the league. ESPECIALLY when it comes to pass rushing. He wasn't a liability against the run, he just hasn't been a real run stuffer. He put up I think it was 24 sacks in his first 4-5 years, which is more then Jerome Brown did in his first 4-5, and more then 95% DT's active in the league have done in a 5 year period.
Walker isn't as good without Simon next to him.
Walker played just fine while Simon played like shtein last year for the first half of the season.
Yeah while Simon was eating up the double teams with his out of shape ass. Simon's proven he can do it next to any DT. Walker hasn't. If Simon doesn't play, he'll have his chance to prove himself.
Then again he might be playing some end :-X
Quote from: SimonPinkston9087 on August 05, 2005, 04:38:46 PMhe was what he was....a solid #2 WR
it really all depends on what you definition of "#2" is
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 04:22:14 PM
Pink is done
rupturing his Achilles tendon (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=32072)
Well there you go. Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown, you just got a hell of a lot more important.
One question, since everything else revolves around TO .....
What was TO's gut reaction when he heard about Pinky?
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: SimonPinkston9087 on August 05, 2005, 04:38:46 PMhe was what he was....a solid #2 WR
it really all depends on what you definition of "#2" is
While James Thrash was here? 42 catches for 600 yards and 60 catches for 735 yards and 7 TD's.
With TO here? Run down the field, catch a deep ball here and there, maybe a few 15 and outs....That's all we needed our #2 to do.
I don't count 2003 as that was an off year for the whole damn offense minus the 3 headed monster.
Quote from: Reidme on August 05, 2005, 04:45:03 PM
One question, since everything else revolves around TO .....
What was TO's gut reaction when he heard about Pinky?
while TO's all about himself, i highly doubt he felt anything but bad for his teammate. He doesn't seem like a hate monger.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 05, 2005, 04:46:43 PM
Quote from: Reidme on August 05, 2005, 04:45:03 PM
One question, since everything else revolves around TO .....
What was TO's gut reaction when he heard about Pinky?
while TO's all about himself, i highly doubt he felt anything but bad for his teammate. He doesn't seem like a hate monger.
Nicely put, Lad. And honestly? I don't give a shtein what TO thinks. Why should ANYONE care what he thinks? Let him play football and catch TDs. We don't need to all be his armchair shrinks.
what the hell. The Pats have won 3 superbowls with average overall WR talent. What me worry.
If you don't like the KJ idea then there must be someone out there that you do want. Even if say, Reggie Brown were to start, the Eagles would still sign someone for depth. So who do you want? Does anyone have a list of FA WRs still available?
What about Bradford and Troy Edwards? They still out there?
Like him or not you just have to feel sorry for him! :'(
don't ever mention Troy Edwards' name again.
he's a douche.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 04:51:38 PM
If you don't like the KJ idea then there must be someone out there that you do want. Even if say, Reggie Brown were to start, the Eagles would still sign someone for depth. So who do you want? Does anyone have a list of FA WRs still available?
What about Bradford and Troy Edwards? They still out there?
Hello? Reggie Brown starting? Are you forgetting Greg Lewis for some reason?
No one seems to be missing Freddie. Imagine that.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 04:51:38 PM
If you don't like the KJ idea then there must be someone out there that you do want. Even if say, Reggie Brown were to start, the Eagles would still sign someone for depth. So who do you want? Does anyone have a list of FA WRs still available?
What about Bradford and Troy Edwards? They still out there?
yes and for a damn good reason.
go play madden
I consider the slot a starter, even though it's not technically... they are used in many sets.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 04:55:29 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 04:51:38 PM
If you don't like the KJ idea then there must be someone out there that you do want. Even if say, Reggie Brown were to start, the Eagles would still sign someone for depth. So who do you want? Does anyone have a list of FA WRs still available?
What about Bradford and Troy Edwards? They still out there?
yes and for a damn good reason.
go play madden
Just checked, they aren't available. Bradford is pretty good though.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 04:54:51 PM
No one seems to be missing Freddie. Imagine that.
I think I'd start drinking if he was here and became the starter.
get freddie :D
whats really sad is that the Eagles WR's over the years have been so bad and Reid hasnt really developed anyone... that we as fans think the Eagles need to go out and get a FA WR to fill a void after injury. Why the hell cant another WR step up? Why do the Eagles even carry #3, 4, 5, 6.
If an Olineman goes down we dont freak out, we expect a backup to fill the void like Hicks did in the past. If an LB or DT or DE or CB goes down we expect the backups to atleast play well enough to win games.
but our #2 WR goes down and all hell breaks loose.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 04:59:37 PM
whats really sad is that the Eagles WR's over the years have been so bad and Reid hasnt really developed anyone... that we as fans think the Eagles need to go out and get a FA WR to fill a void after injury. Why the hell cant another WR step up? Why do the Eagles even carry #3, 4, 5, 6.
If an Olineman goes down we dont freak out, we expect a backup to fill the void like Hicks did in the past. If an LB or DT or DE or CB goes down we expect the backups to atleast play well enough to win games.
but our #2 WR goes down and all hell breaks loose.
Agreed 100%...I just got done talking to my dad saying that I have faith in Greg Lewis at the #2 spot, full fledged confidence. Reggie being thrown in as a rookie worries me, but I think Big Red will just have to find someone to be that 3rd guy. Its not like we need a #1 or #2 WR...a serviceable #3 veteran won't be
too difficult to find.
I've been naming names. Whether my names were realistic or not, I tried to think of some people. Does anyone have any names on their minds?
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2005, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 04:54:51 PM
No one seems to be missing Freddie. Imagine that.
I think I'd start drinking if he was here and became the starter.
You don't drink?
What the farg is wrong with you?
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 05:04:22 PM
I've been naming names. Whether my names were realistic or not, I tried to think of some people. Does anyone have any names on their minds?
there isnt anyone out there as good as Pinkston. now what does that say?
Two names a friend of mine just mentioned as veteran (serviceable) #3 WRs....thoughts?
Tai Streets
Curtis Conway
Both played in the Niners WCO?
I'd take Streets, but no Conway. Too old and beat up.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 05:06:20 PM
Two names a friend of mine just mentioned as veteran (serviceable) #3 WRs....thoughts?
Tai Streets
Curtis Conway
Both played in the Niners WCO?
Streets caught over 70 passes in '02 when he was paired with TO :P
GET STREETS! :paranoid
I also like the Streets idea because TO knows him and would feel comfortable with him. After TO left, I remember Streets was one of the few guys who stood up for TO.
Also, lets not all forget that with Buckhalter back this year, and Moats here too...Westbrook will be lining up as a WR often.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 05:06:20 PM
Two names a friend of mine just mentioned as veteran (serviceable) #3 WRs....thoughts?
Tai Streets
Curtis Conway
Both played in the Niners WCO?
yeah, they are both WR's on the downside of their careers. Both are a little worse at this point in their career than Antonio Freeman when we signed him.
Streets doesn't replace that speed Pinkston does, but unless we pull of a trade, I can't see anyone out there who can.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2005, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 04:54:51 PM
No one seems to be missing Freddie. Imagine that.
I think I'd start drinking if he was here and became the starter.
You don't drink? What the farg is wrong with you?
I don't like alcohol.
Would anyone really be surprised if Reid just stuck with Lewis, Brown, et. al?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 05:11:38 PM
Would anyone really be surprised if Reid just stuck with Lewis, Brown, et. al?
I expect him to.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:10:43 PM
yeah, they are both WR's on the downside of their careers. Both are a little worse at this point in their career than Antonio Freeman when we signed him.
I didn't think they'd slipped that far down....but then again, as a veteran WR to split time with Reggie in there....I wouldn't have a problem with that.
sweet, then we can get JJ Stokes too!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:10:43 PM
yeah, they are both WR's on the downside of their careers. Both are a little worse at this point in their career than Antonio Freeman when we signed him.
I didn't think they'd slipped that far down
well, they have.
Tai Streets didn't slip, he's not even 30 yet. He sucked last year because Detroit sucked.
Might I remind everyone that Todd Pinkston was accountable for 1 TD last season.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:16:26 PM
Might I remind everyone that Todd Pinkston was accountable for 1 TD last season.
You say that like he did little else. Come now.
He had more Ricky Watters "For who?" moments than TDs....
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 05:15:44 PM
Tai Streets didn't slip, he's not even 30 yet. He sucked last year because Detroit sucked.
age doesnt matter. Plenty of players have come and gone long before they reached 30. The Titans were worse than the Lions last year, Drew Bennett had a great season. Roy Williams had a very good rookie year for the Lions. Even Az-zahir Hakim was better than Streets last year. If Streets has a great season ill be sure to come here and eat crow for it.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:23:04 PMif Streets has a great season ill be sure to come here and eat crow for it.
That's why we like you.
This could end Pinky's career since his entire game is based on speed, and Achilles' reconstruction inevitably robs you of that. Shame. :'(
Looks like I'll have to find someone else to sponsor....
So....did anyone point out that PFT was right for once? :paranoid [/blind squirrel]
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 05, 2005, 05:25:17 PM
So....did anyone point out that PFT was riGht for once? :paranoid [/blind squirrel]
Anyone? ;D
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 05, 2005, 05:25:17 PM
So....did anyone point out that PFT was right for once? :paranoid [/blind squirrel]
No [/sun shining on dogs ass]
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:16:26 PM
Might I remind everyone that Todd Pinkston was accountable for 1 TD last season.
You say that like he did little else. Come now.
im just saying his production isnt exactly impossible to replace.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 05:11:38 PM
Would anyone really be surprised if Reid just stuck with Lewis, Brown, et. al?
Reno + Slotback at BYU = THE ANSWER!
^^^ Could be an emergency solution since Reno is a natural WR.
And if I were Reid, I'd ditch his notion that the WR has to learn all the positions spiel....Brown needs to focus on either the slot or the outside and get acclimated stat.
Quote from: Don Ho on August 05, 2005, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 05:11:38 PM
Would anyone really be surprised if Reid just stuck with Lewis, Brown, et. al?
Reno + Slotback at BYU = THE ANSWER!
I find your optimism ... disturbing.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 05, 2005, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on August 05, 2005, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 05:11:38 PM
Would anyone really be surprised if Reid just stuck with Lewis, Brown, et. al?
Reno + Slotback at BYU = THE ANSWER!
I find your optimism ... disturbing.
Reno is all I got man!
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 05, 2005, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:16:26 PM
Might I remind everyone that Todd Pinkston was accountable for 1 TD last season.
You say that like he did little else. Come now.
im just saying his production isnt exactly impossible to replace.
Funny how that's such a hard fact for some people to accept.
Quote from: MURP on August 05, 2005, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 05:15:44 PM
Tai Streets didn't slip, he's not even 30 yet. He sucked last year because Detroit sucked.
age doesnt matter. Plenty of players have come and gone long before they reached 30. The Titans were worse than the Lions last year, Drew Bennett had a great season. Roy Williams had a very good rookie year for the Lions. Even Az-zahir Hakim was better than Streets last year. If Streets has a great season ill be sure to come here and eat crow for it.
You make good points, but players don't just slip for no reason. It will usually be based on mental issues, physical issues such as injuries, age. He hasn't been injury plagued, there hasn't been any mental distractions that I've been aware of. I think he just needs to be in a good situation. Harrington isn't exactly the best QB, and I don't think it's a coincidence he started sucking as soon as he became a Lion. Peerless Price was in a good situation in Buffalo and had 1,000 yards receiving. Then he goes to be "the guy" with a QB who isn't a very accurate passer and he fails. You have a right to your opinion, but I don't understand what you are basing his decline on exactly other than one down year on a bad team.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 04:25:18 PM
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How dare you look past my client G Lew and move right on to Reggie. We respectfully request that you give us our due props. Look at the last catch we made in the Super Bowl...we's on fire!!
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 05:04:22 PM
I've been naming names. Whether my names were realistic or not, I tried to think of some people. Does anyone have any names on their minds?
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Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 04:25:18 PM
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How dare you look past my client G Lew and move right on to Reggie. We respectfully request that you give us our due props. Look at the last catch we made in the Super Bowl...we's on fire!!
lewis is gonna burn up the slot.
i actually dont mind the combo of owens-lewis-brown.
I just can't see Reggie getting to start immediately. Greg has earned the right to do so, even if he's the slot guy in 3 WR sets. Reggie will probably play the outside in 3 WR sets but NOT start, barring injury. ( :evil football gods :evil)
Pinky going out hurts depth, but isn't all that bad.
CBuck going down for the season might just be a matter of time.
Can Lewis stretch defenses with speed like Pinky did? (when he could get past the initial bump anyway)
I'm glad C-Bucky is fine. I think we need depth at the RB position more so than the WR position. Greg Lewis will do a great job in my opinion, and Reggie Brown hopefully will learn quick. He seems like a smart young man who has the ability to catch on relatively quick.
So, assuming Greg is #2, we then have Reggie #3, and probably McMullen at #4 (I don't see Reid giving up on him, considering his seeming patience with WR's over the years - like Pinkston originally, Gari Scott in particular)
That is, of course, if we don't bring someone in. I wouldn't mind bringing Peerless in if he eventually gets cut. He flourished in a #2 role up in Buffalo because he's good for what Pinkston is good for - running down the field as fast as he can and making big plays. Pinkston and Price are in the same mold, although Pinkston is taller. However, I think Peerless has greater big play ability and might be able to make people miss more than Todd.
My concern with bringing in any WR through free agency is the ability for them to learn the system in order to make any real impact. Love him or hate him Pinkston knew the system extremely well and that helped out everyone else to get open and make plays.
Also, who really cares what the depth looks like past the #3 WR. Did our 4th and 5th make any real type of impact last season? The Eagles have enough weapons with Westy lining up outside or in the slot and LJ taking up the middle. LJ is going to be vital this year though, especially since he doesn't have Chad backing him up.
I hate to see Todd go down because of depth reasons. I think Greg Lewis has better big play potential than Pinkston, but I would rather Lewis win the job outright then get it by default due to injury.
The Eagles just have to keep it interesting...
By the way C-Buck told me that he had a quick visit with Mary Jane and she took care of all that ails em'. ;D
Quote from: Phanatic on August 05, 2005, 06:34:02 PM
CBuck going down for the season might just be a matter of time.
He has a bruise dude.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 07:27:54 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on August 05, 2005, 06:34:02 PM
CBuck going down for the season might just be a matter of time.
He has a bruise dude.
You know though.
I am saddened by the loss of Pinky. Im not a fan but he is what he is. A deep threat to pull a S/CB deep and open up the underneath to other WRs/TEs/RBs.
pinky is one of the softest players i've ever seen...the panthers nfc champ game showed it...the alligator arms play from last season showed it...but most of all, his entire career has shown it. he's an average starting wr, at best. whenever he made a nice catch, i was surprised...that shouldn't be the case.
that being said, losing any starter hurts the team....i think g-lew will step in & do well but, as many have said, it's the #3 guy who will be a big question mark.
reid won't throw big $$$ at a replacement...if he picks up anyone, it will be the wr equivalent of what levens was last year.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 05, 2005, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 05, 2005, 05:04:22 PM
I've been naming names. Whether my names were realistic or not, I tried to think of some people. Does anyone have any names on their minds?
jessica alba
Jessica Anal.
Rick Burkholder signed up on EMB today :paranoid
Caught by a fan at camp:
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I feel bad for Pinky.. he always catches a bad rap with the Eagles' fans and he's not totally deserving. Sure he's had his moments like the "I lost focus" or the "I lost it in the lights" comments. But he was a solid #2 option last year and led the NFC with yards per catch at like 18. He's always the scapegoat on the team, and now that he's injured, everyone is just like "oh well, who cares, its pinkston." While I think Greg Lewis will fill in fine at the #2 spot, what do we do about the slot??? Is Reggie Brown ready to come in and play already, or are we going to end up missing Pinkston for once in our lives?
Irving Fryar's been at camp. I'm just sayin' ...
Where has Jerry Rice landed this offseason ;)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 07:27:54 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on August 05, 2005, 06:34:02 PM
CBuck going down for the season might just be a matter of time.
He has a bruise dude.
Allow me my negadelphia moment as I plot the chances of Buck being hurt this year. Certianly I hope I never see Levens in an Eagles Uni again but... I'm just sayin!!
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 05, 2005, 05:25:17 PM
So....did anyone point out that PFT was right for once? :paranoid [/blind squirrel]
They've actually become on of the sites that I check out everyday now. I used to think the guy who runs it was just out to start shtein and it looked that way early on, but he's been getting stuff right lately.
He was the one who pointed out that thing about Westbrook having to report by August 8th or lose the UFA next year...
Quote from: Phanatic on August 06, 2005, 03:08:32 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 05, 2005, 07:27:54 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on August 05, 2005, 06:34:02 PM
CBuck going down for the season might just be a matter of time.
He has a bruise dude.
Allow me my negadelphia moment as I plot the chances of Buck being hurt this year. Certianly I hope I never see Levens in an Eagles Uni again but... I'm just sayin!!
that's not negative....it's realistic.
if anyone was okay with bucky bad knees as the #1 backup for westy, they were fooling themselves. with bucky's track record for injuries, he should have come in as the #3 with a solid #2 on the squad.
get ready for some mahe. :P
PFT also talked about Pacman Jones problems before anyone else. They are doing a better job, but they do get a little crazy with the rumors at times. They just want to break any news before anyone else no matter what. Sometimes thats cool, sometimes it's awful.
RE: RB depth, Reno is fourth at best behind Westbrook (after Buck and Moats). And, if Buck were to go down, I think Dorsey would sign and move into Buck's spot, keeping Mahe fourth.
Follow the oscillating pendant......
It's all the system, it's all the system
Its funny...so many people are like, "This team is doomed this year!" over losing Pinkston. Its the sky is falling mentality.
This team wasn't even as CLOSE to as good when McNabb went down for 8 games with a broken leg. And then the following year when half the defense was injured and they still won all of those games.
I agree, I think the Eagles will be fine. Not to diminish Pinky's contributions, because I think a large segment of Eagles fans minimize his role in the offense...however, if I had to choose one offensive starter to miss this season--given their contributions Vs. the Eagles depth at their position--it'd be Pinky.
More on a personal level, I'm sorry to see Pinky injured...but, in Andy's "system" and considering the depth behind him and, as Murp pointed out, there's a LOT of camp time left to bring the other WRs up to speed on their roles, I'm not overly concerned, barring further injuries.
QuotePINK'S SURGERY A SUCCESS
August 9, 2005
By ZACH BERMAN
BETHELEHEM, Pa.-- Wide receiver Todd Pinkston underwent successful surgery Tuesday morning to repair the Achilles tendon in his right ankle that he ruptured during last Friday morning's practice.
The surgery was performed in Philadelphia by team orthopedist Peter DeLuca. Pinkston was placed on the Injured Reserve list Monday morning, which means he will not play in the 2005 season.
Eagles head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder said the recovery timeline for this type of an injury is usually six months.
Pinkston would have been the team's No. 2 receiver. Last year, he had 36 catches for 676 yards and a touchdown. Greg Lewis looks to be the man who will replace Pinkston in the lineup.
BOOOOO!
If the surgeon had been just a little bit shakey Pinky could have lost a leg.
QuoteSTINKSTON'S SURGERY A DISASTER
August 9, 2005
By FF
BETHELEHEM, Pa.-- Wide (but actually anorexic) receiver Todd Pinkston underwent successful surgery Tuesday morning to repair the Achilles tendon in his right ankle that he ruptured during last Friday morning's practice, as he feverishly attempted to run away from getting hit by a 5'9" cornerback.
The surgery was performed in Philadelphia by team orthopedist Peter DeLuca. Despite efforts by fans, players, and members of the coaching staff, Dr. DeLuca could not be convinced to remove the achilles tendon altogether, thus ending the receiver's career. Pinkston was, thankfully, placed on the Injured Reserve list Monday morning, which means he will not get a chance to display his alligator arms in the 2005 season.
Eagles head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder said the recovery timeline for this type of an injury is usually six months, but that in Pinkston's case, it could take much longer. "Todd's a huge pussy," said Burkholder, "Unlike T.O. or Donovan, who can often recover more quickly than average, we expect his recovery to take at least 70-80% more time than usual."
Pinkston would have inexplicably been the team's No. 2 receiver. Last year, he had 36 catches for 676 yards, 13 drops, a touchdown, and thrice soiled himself on the field of play. Greg Lewis looks to be the man who will replace Pinkston in the lineup, considering he should have replaced him in the first place. The very talented rookie Reggie Brown will also now see quality playing time, and the previously-thought-to-be-lost-cause of Billy McMullen is actually using this as an opportunity to step up an fulfill a small nugget of his potential.
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Good one.
Did you read the rest of it? Not my best work, but I thought it to at least be mildly amusing.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 09, 2005, 04:45:08 PM
Did you read the rest of it? Not my best work, but I thought it to at least be mildly amusing.
I read the rest of it and it was mildly amusing. I just felt like making fun of you a little bit, jerk.
Admit it. You soiled yourself. Again.
Probably. But believe me when I say it had nothing to do with you and everything to do with chronically explosive bowels.
You should get your cheerio checked out. Your o-ring might be broken.
You're probably right. No o-ring could withstand the terrifying force with which my guts try to evacuate themselves. Perhaps less beer, chili and bacon would help. And perhaps I should open up a vein for fun.