kenny irons tears ACL.....out for year
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2968878
Putting all of the NFL news for the season into one thread doesn't seem like a particularly good idea, especially since that is supposed to be the role of this entire board. At the very least, please break it down into week like last year. Organized, narrowly targeted threads >> one long rambling conversation. It allows people to ignore topics they are not interested in and read the ones they do care about, instead of having to wade through 30 pages of boring topics, hype, and "your mom" jokes to find the information they are looking for. Thanks.
Start the weekly threads yourself if you want 'em.
Just sayin'.
Fox announcing teams.
Team #1- Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Pam Oliver
Team #2- Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston, Tony Siragusa
Team #3- Matt Vasgersian, JC Pearson, Jay Glazer
Team #4- Dick Stockton, Brian Baldinger, Terry Donahue
Team #5- Sam Rosen, Tim Ryan
Team #6- Ron Pitts, Jesse Palmer
Team #7- Thom Brenneman or Steve Byrnes or Pat Summerall or Matt Devlin or Josh Lewin, Barry Alvarez or Dale Hellestrae
Team #8- Brad Sham or Dan McLaughlin, Tony Boselli
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 10, 2007, 05:36:05 PM
Putting all of the NFL news for the season into one thread doesn't seem like a particularly good idea, especially since that is supposed to be the role of this entire board. At the very least, please break it down into week like last year. Organized, narrowly targeted threads >> one long rambling conversation. It allows people to ignore topics they are not interested in and read the ones they do care about, instead of having to wade through 30 pages of boring topics, hype, and "your mom" jokes to find the information they are looking for. Thanks.
This place definitely needs more pointless threads. MORE, I say!
Summerall went from "A" team to nothing without Madden. They made such a dynamic duo.
And wasn't one of the reasons Madden and Summerall split was that Summerall was retiring? Why the hell did he decide to come back?
is boselli a new addition?...cant recall ever hearing him
i know something i have heard...and that i never wanna hear again...and thats josh lewins cleft pallet
emmitt smith might be the dumbest analyst ever
i love the guy but he is just atrocious
last week they had a segment on impact rookies...calvin johnson and some other guy was taken....emmitt says he loves travis henry in denver and started talking about how well he played in tennesee last year
this morning he called damon huard a young QB
he is awful and its obvious he has no clue about the nfl
that is all
One thing I've learned over the years is that we as fans know way, way more about NFL players then NFL players do.
Tim Couch's comeback with Jacksonville is over.
Denver lost Ebenezer Ekuban for the season (Achilles) and Travis Henry left with a sprained knee.
i saw that eukeban thing on the ticker last night
did that cat change his name
cause his name looked all different and crazy
Yeah he changed it to Nebukadnezzar Ekuban. *insert laugh track*
Reggie Nelson hurt his ankle last night. No word on how bad it is but they think he'll miss some time...
Quote
POSTED 1:10 p.m. EDT, August 20, 2007
VICK PLEA DEAL WON'T BE ACCEPTED UNTIL AUGUST 27, AT THE EARLIEST
WSB-TV in Atlanta reports that a hearing before Judge Henry Hudson on any plea deal involving Falcons quarterback Mike Vick would not occur before Monday, August 27.
The reason for this delay is that, before a hearing can be scheduled, there has to be a deal. As of yet, there is no deal.
Though the delay isn't significant, the real news here is that, if there's a deal, the judge presiding over the case hasn't been told about it. And that suggests that there is no deal.
It makes us wonder whether there even will be. At some point, prosecutors will pull the offer off of the table and proceed.
Of course, it's possible that the offer has been yanked, but that the Vick camp has yet to leak this fact to the media. Don't count on the prosecutors saying anything more about this until the new indictment, with new charges, is announced.
QuoteDOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER IN THE AFC WEST
Could the Apocalypse be approaching? If so, we definitely have a sign that we can point to.
The Denver Broncos and the Oakland Raiders have engaged in a trade.
Let's repeat that. The Denver Broncos and the Oakland Raiders have engaged in a trade.
Specifically, the Broncos have shipped defensive tackle Gerard Warren to the Raiders for an undisclosed pick in the 2008 draft.
The move is stunning, given the acrimony between these two franchise and, specifically, the abject hatred shared by Raiders owner Al Davis and Broncos coach Mike Shanahan. If anything, we would have expected to tension to increase with the recent hiring of former Raiders personnel guru Mike Lombardi by the Broncos. But perhaps it was Lombardi who was able to work his old connections there in order to make the trade happen.
Surely, a trade to the Raiders was the only option that the Broncos had. Even then, we're surprised that they didn't simply cut Warren in lieu of entering into a transaction with the Raiders.
al davis has officially reached senility
Quote from: PPinDC on August 20, 2007, 01:16:14 PM
QuoteDOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER IN THE AFC WEST
Could the Apocalypse be approaching? If so, we definitely have a sign that we can point to.
The Denver Broncos and the Oakland Raiders have engaged in a trade.
Let's repeat that. The Denver Broncos and the Oakland Raiders have engaged in a trade.
Specifically, the Broncos have shipped defensive tackle Gerard Warren to the Raiders for an undisclosed pick in the 2008 draft.
The move is stunning, given the acrimony between these two franchise and, specifically, the abject hatred shared by Raiders owner Al Davis and Broncos coach Mike Shanahan. If anything, we would have expected to tension to increase with the recent hiring of former Raiders personnel guru Mike Lombardi by the Broncos. But perhaps it was Lombardi who was able to work his old connections there in order to make the trade happen.
Surely, a trade to the Raiders was the only option that the Broncos had. Even then, we're surprised that they didn't simply cut Warren in lieu of entering into a transaction with the Raiders.
Nice editing.
They're reporting on the radio here that Vick just accepted a plea deal.
Court date next Monday.
The Mike Vick era in Atlanta is officially over.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 20, 2007, 02:31:34 PM
They're reporting on the radio here that Vick just accepted a plea deal.
Court date next Monday.
The Mike Vick era in Atlanta is officially over.
QuoteVICK ADMITS GUILT
The Virginian-Pilot reports that Michael Vick has accepted a plea deal on federal conspiracy charges. Though the newspaper's web site is currently flooded with traffic, news reports characterizing the story suggest that Vick plans to admit responsibility, in an effort to come clean.
In our view, Vick knows that there's no way he can ever return to the NFL without securing redemption, and that there can be no redemption without contrition.
The broader question is whether redemption is even available with contrition. Should he get credit for telling the truth only after it was clear that there was no way out? We don't think so.
It's unclear whether the deal includes any type of commitment from the NFL as to Vick's possible suspension, or any commitment from authorities in Virginia regarding possible charges for animal cruelty arising from eight dogs that were killed on Vick's property in April 2007, the same month in which Vick told the Commissioner that there was no dog fighting on his Surry County, Virginia property. If Vick's formal plea documents include an admission that he participated in the killings of the dogs, he's certain to face even more jail time in Virginia, where the total penalty will be up to 40 years.
The plea will be entered on August 27, at 10:30 a.m. EDT.
Wow.
And we get credit for beating him (and knocking him out of the game) in his final NFL game
Everyone is focussed on the fact that he killed dogs. But that isn't the real problem. The real problem is that he bred and trained the dogs to be killers in the first place. After that they HAVE to be killed. It's gruesome, but its not like those things were going to be rehabilitated and adopted after that. Anyway, enjoy jail, douche.
whats he looking at realistically? 2 to 3? or less?
NFL.com:
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Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has accepted a plea deal in his federal dogfighting case. NFL Network's Adam Schefter is reporting the agreement calls for a 10-12 month prison sentence.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 20, 2007, 02:54:23 PM
Everyone is focussed on the fact that he killed dogs. But that isn't the real problem. The real problem is that he bred and trained the dogs to be killers in the first place. After that they HAVE to be killed. It's gruesome, but its not like those things were going to be rehabilitated and adopted after that. Anyway, enjoy jail, douche.
You're right-- but it really depends on your definition of the "real problem." What you described is more of the problem...but I'm sure the inherent gambling angle is just as much, if not more, of a "real problem" from the standpoint of the NFL (thought I'm not sure they'd admit that).
Oh, and I really hope he serves out the vast majority of that sentence. Actually, I hope the judge gives him more.
Quote from: PPinDC on August 20, 2007, 03:00:15 PM
NFL.com:
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Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has accepted a plea deal in his federal dogfighting case. NFL Network's Adam Schefter is reporting the agreement calls for a 10-12 month prison sentence.
Thats way too damn short
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 20, 2007, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: PPinDC on August 20, 2007, 03:00:15 PM
NFL.com:
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Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has accepted a plea deal in his federal dogfighting case. NFL Network's Adam Schefter is reporting the agreement calls for a 10-12 month prison sentence.
Thats way too damn short
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. What have other guys gotten in that court for the same charge? What do his co-defendants get? If that is skewed, you have an argument.
Quote
Simon visits Titans, takes physical
Posted: Monday August 20, 2007 8:37PM; Updated: Monday August 20, 2007 8:37PM
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Corey Simon's attempt to restart his NFL career brought him to town Monday for a physical with the Tennessee Titans.
"We had him in for a physical, and we worked Corey out and he seemed to be in good shape," Titans coach Jeff Fisher told The Tennessean.
Agent Roosevelt Barnes did not immediately return a message left at his office Monday night by The Associated Press.
The defensive tackle was released by Indianapolis Aug. 4 after not passing his physical with the Colts at the start of training camp despite signing him to a five-year, $30 million contract before the 2005 season.
Simon had arthroscopic knee surgery and did not play in 2006. He was eventually placed on the non-football illness/injury list with an undisclosed ailment.
If healthy, he could help a Titans defense that ranked 30th in the league against the run last year, giving up 144.6 yards per game.
Simon was the sixth pick overall in 2000 by the Philadelphia Eagles. He spent five seasons with Philadelphia and had 270 tackles and 32 sacks, but the Eagles released him just before the 2005 season started because he refused to sign a one-year franchise tender.
Amazing how far Simon has fallen, equally amazing is that house people still view him as some kind of run stuffing specialist.
QuotePOSTED 1:16 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 1:32 p.m. EDT, August 21, 2007
JOHNSON AGREES TO TERMS
Jay Glazer of FOX reports that running back Larry Johnson has agreed in principle on a six-year contract with the Chiefs. The contract will replace the final year of Johnson's rookie deal, during which he had been scheduled to earn $1.7 million.
The deal also will end Johnson's holdout, and reunite him with the team.
Terms are not yet available, but the guaranteed money could be in the range of $19 million, which would be above the market for good veteran running backs but below the LaDanian Tomlinson ballpark.
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L.J. GETS $13.5 MILLION TO SIGN
A league source tells us that the new contract between running back Larry Johnson and the Chiefs includes a $13.5 million signing bonus.
Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the total guaranteed money is $19 million, and that the six-year deal has a total value of $45 million.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network has the contract at $19 million guaranteed, $43.2 million total value, and $27.7 million over the first three years.
It remains to be seen whether the $45 million (or $43.2 million) is a realistic number, or whether it requires Johnson to do things like lead the league in rushing multiple times, win an MVP award, and/or dress in drag and do the hula.
Thank god. I just drafted him 6 overall.
QuoteNews: Running back Larry Johnson joined the Kansas City Chiefs for practice Tuesday after having been absent from training camp since it opened July 27. Johnson was in uniform, taking a swing pass from quarterback Brodie Croyle. Chiefs spokesman Bob Moore said Johnson will speak to the media Wednesday.
I'm glad to hear this. Was anyone else thinking it could hurt his Fantasy value if he held out much longer?
QuoteLast call for starting Cardinals' spots
Kent Somers
The Arizona Republic
Aug. 21, 2007 12:00 AM
FLAGSTAFF - As Cardinals training camp comes to a close this week, so does a player's chance to make the starting lineup for the regular-season opener.
The Cardinals break camp at Northern Arizona on Thursday and play San Diego Saturday night in Glendale. By this time next week, coach Ken Whisenhunt wants his lineup for opening day set, and the starters don't figure to play much in the final preseason game against Denver. That makes the three final days of camp and the Chargers game all the more important for players and coaches.
Change has been a constant throughout camp. In Monday afternoon's practice, Rod Hood replaced Antrel Rolle at left cornerback. The move was significant because Rolle was the eighth overall pick in the 2005 draft, and it backs up the promise by Whisenhunt that the best players will start, regardless of salary and draft status.
"That's their call," Rolle said Monday. "I just have to go and play my game and play the way I know I can play. Right now, I just have to fight through it."
Rolle has been called for pass interference twice this preseason and also gave up a long pass against the Texans last Saturday.
Hood, a free-agent acquisition from Philadelphia, has played well throughout camp and broke up a potential touchdown pass against Houston. Entering camp, it was thought he would compete with Eric Green for the right cornerback spot, but Hood and Green have been the top corners in camp.
"The competition on this team, and in the secondary, is going to make the whole team better," Hood said. "Coach Whisenhunt said he was going to give me a fair chance to start, so I think that was one of the biggest drawing points to me coming here."
Cornerback is not the Cardinals' only concern. Here a few positions where the team needed to find answers when camp started:
Good for Rod
yeah definitely
Well, it's not like they're paying him minimum salary or anything. They certainly expected he'd compete for a starting job. But still, it's good to see the guy get a real shot to start despite having to fight through a younger high draft pick to do it.
QuoteTitans | Thorn signed
Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:11:37 -0700
Jim Wyatt and Paul Kuharsky, of the Nashville Tennessean, report the Tennessee Titans have signed unrestricted free-agent TE Andy Thorn (Cowboys). Terms of the contract were not disclosed.
Way to bounce around, Eagles cast-off.
Bettis claims he faked injury so Steelers wouldn't cut him
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2986809
Henry, 28, has fathered nine children by nine women in at least four Southern states (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2007/08/24/childpay_0825.html)
He's a concubinin' sunuvabitch
Quote from: Father Demon on August 25, 2007, 12:42:31 PM
Henry, 28, has fathered nine children by nine women in at least four Southern states (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2007/08/24/childpay_0825.html)
He's a concubinin' sunuvabitch
Apparently, that's one hole he can hit everytime he sees daylight.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 25, 2007, 12:54:48 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on August 25, 2007, 12:42:31 PM
Henry, 28, has fathered nine children by nine women in at least four Southern states (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2007/08/24/childpay_0825.html)
He's a concubinin' sunuvabitch
Apparently, that's one hole he can hit everytime he sees daylight.
Hey-oh!
Brian Leonard's leap yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XuCLtkO0YA
I hate that the Rams drafted him. I would have loved to pick him up, but since the Eagles couldn't, ANY OTHER team other that St. Louis would have fit me fine.
white men can jump
just saw jr reed make sportscenters top ten plays with a real nice interception
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2007, 06:26:12 AM
just saw jr reed make sportscenters top ten plays with a real nice interception
How did his leg look? I wonder if he still has to use that brace.
i mean it was a quick highlite of him making a great catch on the int...didnt really get a long enough look to see how he was moving or see a brace
He cut off his dreads though so he's aerodynamically pleased.
(http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/FreddyOnBull.jpg)
what.
a.
mother.
farging.
clown.
damn, that's 10 minutes from my house
:-D
That picture is even funnier because as soon as I saw it the song "Bartender" came on the radio.
Quote from: Eaglez on August 25, 2007, 04:51:12 PM
Brian Leonard's leap yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XuCLtkO0YA
Thats my boy!
lard ass signed with Tennessee
I'm surprised he passed the physical
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 28, 2007, 03:25:02 PM
I'm surprised he passed the physical
he signed In tennessee because he heard they still have Kenny Rogers Roasters there
(http://www.coreysimonsc.org/_img/_splash/part_01.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/SimonFatTitan.jpg)
Much improved.
Quote from: PPinDC on August 28, 2007, 03:36:20 PM
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/SimonFatTitan.jpg)
hahhahaa i bet his arms move like a T Rex
Tim Couch busted for roids and HGH? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ahx2...o&type=lgns)
QuoteYahoo! Sports - News Article Expired/Not Available
:paranoid
Quote from: Eaglez on August 25, 2007, 04:51:12 PM
Brian Leonard's leap yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XuCLtkO0YA
Go white boy, go white boy, go.
Dear god. Please stop.
According to strong rumors the Rams and Simeon Rice are dotting the "I's" and crossing the "T's."
*Rice to sign with Rams.
*Conwell will join team in near future.
*Rams still trying to deal Ryan Fitzpatrick.
As soon as today, the Rams will announce the addition of Simeon Rice.
intense
(http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/08/30/shield3-large.jpg)
Seattle lost Marcus Tubbs for the season (torn ACL)
Houston released Keenan McCardell
Bowtie was released by the Saints
Jags are planning on trading or releasing Leftwich (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvLxHCuhlXj55sbAAi1lNaE5nYcB?slug=ap-jaguars-leftwich&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Rodney Harrison admitted to the commish that he took HGH. The league is expected to announce a 4 game suspension for him on Saturday.
linky dinky doo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2999994)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 31, 2007, 07:38:05 PM
Jags are planning on trading or releasing Leftwich (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvLxHCuhlXj55sbAAi1lNaE5nYcB?slug=ap-jaguars-leftwich&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Dial 1-800-FALCONS
Leftwich is the anti-Vick. He can't move and has a pretty accurate arm.
He also has a cannon for an arm. I'll bet Al Davis is salivating over him right now. Or maybe that's just drool?
QuoteCardinals | B. Davis released
Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:48:47 -0700
The Arizona Cardinals have announced they have released LB Buster Davis.
Holy shtein. He was pretty highly rated in the draft as a LB, and they selected him in the third round.
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Texans | Lundy released
Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:06:04 -0700
Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans have released RB Wali Lundy.
Also a surprise. Guy was pretty good last year as a rookie...
Megan Manfull? Has this been discussed already?
Quote from: rjs246 on September 01, 2007, 12:21:07 AM
Megan Manfull? Has this been discussed already?
Quite a bit. She's a fantastic writer....what else is there to say?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 31, 2007, 09:13:28 PM
Rodney Harrison admitted to the commish that he took HGH. The league is expected to announce a 4 game suspension for him on Saturday.
linky dinky doo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2999994)
farg Harrison. Just makes a guy with a dirty rep look dirtier.
All released:
Todd Pinkston (WSH)
J.R. Reed (NYG)
Sam Rayburn (SF)
Dhani Jones (NO)
Jason Short (CLE)
Billy McMullen (MIN)
Calvin Armstrong (WSH)
Trey Darilek (DAL)
Josh Parry (SEA)
Keyonta Marshall (BAL)
Jamaal Green (WSH)
Bethel Johnson (HOU)
Justin Jenkins (BUF)
Scott Ware (IND)
Norman LeJeune (IND)
Stephen Spach (MIN)
Time to re-try JR Reed as a returner?
I win.
Sad but true.
According to the link below the Patriots just released Reche Caldwell.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3002826
Jesus - lead a team in receptions on year, get cut the next? Yikes.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 03, 2007, 01:21:38 PM
According to the link below the Patriots just released Reche Caldwell.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3002826
Jesus - lead a team in receptions on year, get cut the next? Yikes.
well he only led cause their WR corps sucked. with walker, stallworth, and moss i doubt they need this dude.
He dropped a couple passes against the Colts in the AFCCG.
Quote from: Father Demon on August 31, 2007, 01:53:17 PM
According to strong rumors the Rams and Simeon Rice are dotting the "I's" and crossing the "T's."
*Rice to sign with Rams.
As soon as today, the Rams will announce the addition of Simeon Rice.
Rice signed with the Broncos
ha ha
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 03, 2007, 01:21:38 PM
According to the link below the Patriots just released Reche Caldwell.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3002826
Jesus - lead a team in receptions on year, get cut the next? Yikes.
Yeah, what kind of dumbass team lets go of their best receiving threat... oh wait.
Belicek: "Sorry Reche, you've been cut."
Caldwell: "What?"
(http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/reche_caldwell_insane_1_1.jpg)
Raiders and Russell agree on a deal:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3013493
i want commend you pg for posting news of that sort....when i saw your name as the last post in this thread i thought for sure it would be a rundown of all the non eagles who got hurt this weekend around the league
Charlie Frye to the Seahawks.
Seahawks also sent DE Bryce Fisher to the Titans for an undisclosed draft pick.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3013232
Orlando Pace done for the year.
(http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/special/moon/houston/moonpage.jpg)
Serious?
Quote from: phattymatty on September 11, 2007, 02:33:02 PM
Charlie Frye to the Seahawks.
i dont get this move. he had one bad game against a good defense and they give up right away on him? sounds like a move fans would make.
or maybe a coach on the hot seat.
charlie frye has sucked for going on three years now
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 03:06:19 PM
charlie frye has sucked for going on three years now
I only wish it had been the Giants who were so quick to pull the trigger on getting him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 03:06:19 PM
charlie frye has sucked for going on three years now
yeah ok then what was the point of starting him over quinn? they thought he would be magic in that game against pitt?
The same as starting Doug Pederson over Donovan McNabb.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 11, 2007, 03:42:39 PM
yeah ok then what was the point of starting him over quinn? they thought he would be magic in that game against pitt?
they knew they had no chance to beat pittsburgh if christ himself was their quarterback, they just didn't want little brady to be broken in half, that's why charlie was sacrificed.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014677
Was this posted yet?
Goodell finds the Pats guilty.
Goodell should suspend Belichek for a game or two.
Change the final score to be 2-0, Jets.
Apparently, this is something that's been going on for years with them.
farging Super Bowl wins seem a lot more shady now. :boom
^^^^^
lol
link was working, not sure if it will with too much traffic:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_-Oha_7alHJ8/RuYeOezmwqI/AAAAAAAABMw/3uo4NQhZqR8/s1600-h/pats-camera.jpg
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 07:03:33 PM
^^^^^
lol
You don't think this taints their SB wins? Not just against us, but all of them?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 11, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 07:03:33 PM
^^^^^
lol
You don't think this taints their SB wins? Not just against us, but all of them?
I don't. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. I think that if the league allows a team to take cameras on the field then they should be able to use them however they see fit. I have no problem with sign stealing as long as it's done honestly.
:-D
My God is Belichick a child. He is obviously a loathsome and humorless person. This is the same guy who wouldn't shake hands with his former assistant just out of spite. And now he gets caught attempting to cheat in a game against that very assistant. All of this while he is coach of a team with perhaps the best talent and front office in all of football. The guy can win fifty Superbowls and would still be a farging loser.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 11, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 07:03:33 PM
^^^^^
lol
You don't think this taints their SB wins? Not just against us, but all of them?
If the Pats got away with it once they've gotten away with it before. Why chance it against the Jets who's a team they should have absolutely no trouble beating without help? As far as I'm concerned they should have a * next to their SBs. I hope Belichick is banned from the league.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2007, 09:23:51 PM
I don't. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. I think that if the league allows a team to take cameras on the field then they should be able to use them however they see fit. I have no problem with sign stealing as long as it's done honestly.
its not a big deal and every team has done it...patriots just happened to get caught
this is just fodder for the haters to try and minimize the patriots accomplishments
Every team has had a person video tape the defensive calls of the opposing team for an entire game?
Troll.
of course...yeah the patriots are smarter than the rest of the world and were the only ones to think of something like this...if you aint cheating in sports then you arent playing
stick to gardening or whatever it is you do
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 11, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 07:03:33 PM
^^^^^
lol
You don't think this taints their SB wins? Not just against us, but all of them?
Personally, I'd love it for someone to think that an incident like this would taint the Eagles SB victories.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/DJ_Estasi/p1_brady_trophy_apcopy.jpg)
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 12, 2007, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 11, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2007, 07:03:33 PM
^^^^^
lol
You don't think this taints their SB wins? Not just against us, but all of them?
Personally, I'd love it for someone to think that an incident like this would taint the Eagles SB victories.
did i miss something? :-D Now, the eagles are on that list of teams that have launched complaints against the Pats, you do have to wonder if the Pats did it in the SB.
I really hope the Commish makes the Patriots forfeit the win sunday, Suspends Belicheck for a game or 2 and docks them a couple picks. Its one thing to have someone watching and relaying info, its a whole other thing when you have a Camera guy with a 50k camera just focusing on the opposing teams signals while your 10 yards away on their own sideline.
Now you can definitely understand why Mcdermott was shielding his calls so much on Sunday.
QuoteAs far as I'm concerned they should have a * next to their SBs.
if you steal signals in baseball, should you have an asterisk next to your World Series win?
All part of the game if your slick enough, but the bad thing for them is they will get docked draft picks in the coming year from Roger Goodell
so lets assume this is a problem bigger than just the Pats...
there was a rule change up for approval in the offseason that would allow the defense to have one player with a communications helmet, but it got voted down. if all these teams were worried about signal stealing, why not approve that rule?
because they arent all worried about it...they all do it and they all will continue to do it...but now that the pats got caught everyone is gonna get all uppity and bitch and moan and try to take superbowls away
"they cheated better than us"
Quote from: SunMo on September 12, 2007, 08:39:25 AM
so lets assume this is a problem bigger than just the Pats...
there was a rule change up for approval in the offseason that would allow the defense to have one player with a communications helmet, but it got voted down. if all these teams were worried about signal stealing, why not approve that rule?
Apparently the Pats were one of only 2 teams that did not vote for the Receiver in the the MLB's helmet. I wonder why? And PFT is saying that there are reports that D lineman had receivers in their helmets during the 2006 season for the pats.
Reese, It's one thing to watch what the other team is doing and write it down/remember the callsign. Its a whole other thing when you have basically a spy in your dugout, videotaping with not only a camera, but a really expensive camera.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2007, 08:42:14 AM
because they arent all worried about it...they all do it and they all will continue to do it...but now that the pats got caught everyone is gonna get all uppity and bitch and moan and try to take superbowls away
"they cheated better than us"
We all know Andy is too honest to ever try and pull some shtein off like this, though i would have been all for it if it got this team a SB Win
Quote from: reese125 on September 12, 2007, 08:36:39 AM
QuoteAs far as I'm concerned they should have a * next to their SBs.
if you steal signals in baseball, should you have an asterisk next to your World Series win?
All part of the game if your slick enough, but the bad thing for them is they will get docked draft picks in the coming year from Roger Goodell
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree with reese.
Sign stealing has always been a part of the game. And if you are able to observe the opposing team showing their tendencies or read their signals then I don't see how that's cheating. The league obviously allows teams to bring cameras on the field and now they're getting pissed off because they found someone "allegedly" using it to "allegedly" gain a competetive advantage? It's not like they've got remote controlled flies that they're using to listen in on the other team's huddle or sideline discussions. They don't have someone dressed up like a bush sneaking around the other team. I really don't see this as an issue. And if they did it against the Eagles in the Super Bowl, so what? Maybe if Reid and Co did a little thinking outside the box, they would have been stealing signs from the Pats.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 12, 2007, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2007, 08:42:14 AM
because they arent all worried about it...they all do it and they all will continue to do it...but now that the pats got caught everyone is gonna get all uppity and bitch and moan and try to take superbowls away
"they cheated better than us"
We all know Andy is too honest to ever try and pull some shtein off like this, though i would have been all for it if it got this team a SB Win
Maybe they should hire Britt to be HC. He'll shoot up before the game and run the opposing team's bus off the road on their way to the stadium.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 12, 2007, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 12, 2007, 08:42:14 AM
because they arent all worried about it...they all do it and they all will continue to do it...but now that the pats got caught everyone is gonna get all uppity and bitch and moan and try to take superbowls away
"they cheated better than us"
We all know Andy is too honest to ever try and pull some shtein off like this, though i would have been all for it if it got this team a SB Win
eagles do it too...perhaps not always in such a bold fashion as a camera on the sidelines...but best believe they have their own cameras around the stadium filming the same stuff
imo its the jets that should be fined for stupidity...switch up your signals or make them harder to read or conceal them...all these jets officials and coaches are talking about how they have suspected the patriots of doing this for a while...well if thats the case then how did you dumbasses let your signals get stolen by a team who you knew practiced the art
not to mentiopn mangini was the friggin DC under belichek...he knew what they did and more than that he did it himself...so shut your mouth and take your medicine
I agree on the point about Mangini. You worked directly with Belichek for years. You knew how they operated. Yet you didn't have the piece of mind to adjust your calls when you felt like they were cheating? How dumb do you have to be?
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The official NFL rule regarding coaching video states, "No video record ing devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game."
The league's head of football operations, Ray Anderson, sent a memo to head coaches and general managers last September reiterating the policy and stating that "video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."
That's why it's wrong -- because the rules specifically state what the Pats did is illegal. The baseball argument is funny - just as reading the signs of a 3rd base coach is not illegal, if the Pats coaching staff could see the signals from their position with out mechanical aid then it wouldn't be illegal.
Also, Mangini is the one that tipped off Jets higher-ups, and they did this just to catch a nd bust the Pats. the camera was taken in the mid first quarter, so it likely didn't have an impact on the final score. but the Jets played possum just long enough to nail the Pats.
I say good job to the Jets. Use them as an example, and maybe this will get straightened out before it turns into an NBA type of credibility issue.
the camera was taken in the mid first quarter, so it likely didn't have an impact on the final score
it was taken at halftime outside the patriots locker room
either way youre spazzing about the issue...everyone does it...one team got caught...and everyone will continue to do it...just in a more secretive manner now (at least till this dies down)
Because the camera and tape were seized in the first quarter Sunday, the taping most likely did not play a major factor in the outcome, a 38-14 victory. (http://sturminator.blogspot.com/2007/09/cheaters-always-prosper.html)
Different sources, different stories.
I have two (now three) posts about this subject to your 6. And I'm spazzing out. Makes sense.
Quote from: Father Demon on September 12, 2007, 11:32:23 AM
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The official NFL rule regarding coaching video states, "No video record ing devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game."
The league's head of football operations, Ray Anderson, sent a memo to head coaches and general managers last September reiterating the policy and stating that "video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."
That's why it's wrong -- because the rules specifically state what the Pats did is illegal. The baseball argument is funny - just as reading the signs of a 3rd base coach is not illegal, if the Pats coaching staff could see the signals from their position with out mechanical aid then it wouldn't be illegal.
Also, Mangini is the one that tipped off Jets higher-ups, and they did this just to catch a nd bust the Pats. the camera was taken in the mid first quarter, so it likely didn't have an impact on the final score. but the Jets played possum just long enough to nail the Pats.
I say good job to the Jets. Use them as an example, and maybe this will get straightened out before it turns into an NBA type of credibility issue.
I just assumed that the camera was allowed on the field. My bad on that. So in that regards, since the Pats did bring contraband onto the field, then yes, shame on them and they should be punished for it. However, I still don't think that this taints their Super Bowls.
i read it in one of the ny papers...trying to find it...that they stopped the dood at haltime going into the new england lockeroom..and in fact said an altercation of some sort took place and they had to call nj state police over
Gaddis auditioned with the Rams yesterday. They cut Hedgecock to make room for another player, but it seems it won't be Gaddis.
About the Patriots thing. This shouldn't be such a big issue. Every team looks for advantages including stealing signs. It's part of sports. Not a big deal.
What makes this so delicious is the fact that Belicheck is so renowned as a genius AND simultaneously despised by the media for being such a massive pain in the ass. I hope they nail his ass to the wall and I hope that the Eagles pick up some tips from what the league finds.
Years ago in the old Baker, the Phillies were caught trying to steal the catcher's signs from center field and telegraph them to the third base coach. They were caught when the opposing third base coach got his spikes caught in some of the wire that had been shallowly buried in the field. He pulled up the wire and followed it to where they had the guy stationed.
wait so its not a big deal if a team is caught cheating? since when? stealing signs is one thing...esp if your dumb enough to lay them out there, but having a camera and going outside the rules to cheat is not a big deal? why not? just cause other teams do it? ok so we should all ignore the rule now? why is steroids or HGH a big deal then?
im not even comparing the two or saying they are on the same level but they both do lead to a competitive edge yet one is looked as the worst thing ever and the other is nothing?
and i believe this isnt the first time the pats have been caught doing something like this. there has to be some punishment for them doing this regardless of the fact that other teams might be doing this. if your going to cheat and get caught you should be penalized.
they should be punished AND its not a big deal
The fact they overstepped the boundary, and its widely known throughout the NFL that every team does it, I'm sure Goodell will make an example out of them
Im going to go a 2-game suspension for Belichick will be imposed (which will be funny, cause you know damn well he will be coaching from his Blackberry at home or some other device come Sundays)
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2007, 07:58:48 AM
they should be punished AND its not a big deal
How is it not a big deal knowing what D is going to be run? All these great half time adjustments the Pats have made over the years are now a bunch of bullshtein. And its obviously been going on for some time for Mangini to know about it. Dismissing by saying 'well every team does it, they just got caught' is advocating cheating.
What I'm waiting to see is how deep their deceit goes, now that they've been exposed lets see if the NFL finds radio frequency tampering.
again every team does it...patriots just got caught for taking it a step further
if you think the patriots have had a camera man on the sidelines for much more than the two games theyve been caught then youre crazy...teams look for this all the time...theres no way they could have had a valid camera man on the sidelines filming teams for the last five years...it just didnt happen...
from a sky box or in the stands or even on the sidelines with a telephoto like every other team does sure...but not a tv camera like they did sunday
fans of other teams are just crying sour grapes to try and lesson the accomplishments of a dynasty and at the same time make themselves feel better about their own teams failures
No wonder they call it the "Patriot Act."
Bush had to get the idea from somwhere.
There's zero doubt in my mind they've had a camera man on the sidelines for more than 2 games. Mangini's in his second year as Jets coach and he knew this was going on. Why would the Pats chance getting caught vs. a team like the Jets? If they've gotten away with it once they've obviously done it in the past.
Their camera man was not only taping their hand signals he was also matching the audio to see what calls they were making. Teams are allowed to break down footage (those black and white pics they send down to the sidelines) but what they use in the box is strictly enforced and their camera has to stay focused on the defense, they're not allowed to take photos of the sidelines.
Its not sour grapes, when you've won 3 SBs and are this great NFL story/dynasty who's always been one step ahead of the competition and it comes out you've been cheating it raises questions.
its so cool to think my kids will grow up idolizing their favorite sports cheaters of all time
this world just get better and better every day
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 13, 2007, 08:38:37 AM
No wonder they call it the "Patriot Act."
Bush had to get the idea from somwhere.
= funny.
That reminds me of the story of when the reporter Lisa Olsen got harassed in the Pats locker room.
While I don't condone sexual harassment, the comment that set her off was kinds funny. She asked Zeke Mowatt a question about the Gulf War and whether it served as a distraction for the Pats. His response as he was getting in the hot tub was, "Have you ever seen a Patriot missile up close?"
This may or may not be how it happened but that's what I recall.
wtf does that have to do with cameras stealing signals.
I gnerally think that Dr. Z is worthless, but this is a pretty good article. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/dr_z/09/13/cheating/index.html?bcnn=yes)
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2007, 03:40:06 PM
I gnerally think that Dr. Z is worthless, but this is a pretty good article. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/dr_z/09/13/cheating/index.html?bcnn=yes)
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• Good old street crime is one thing. It goes with the history of sports. But this video thing lifts it to a new level of electronic surveillance and into the realm of the hi-tech, white collar crime that we all hate. Put these guys on the business page, for God's sake. There's no place for them in sports.
That's good stuff, right there.
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"At one point we had a good drive going against the Patriots," said one Lion who doesn't want his name involved in this mess, but was willing to talk about it. "Mike Martz really had 'em going. They were getting fouled up, lining up wrong, we were moving the ball. Then boom, the headset from the sidelines to the coaches' booth goes out.
"Next possession we were moving the ball again and the same thing happened. You know it only takes two or three plays to mess up a drive."
Matt Millen, the Lions' GM, was talking to Bengals' coach Marvin Lewis at the league meetings. He started telling him the story.
"Yeah, I know," Lewis said. "Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too."
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Marinelli was the defensive line coach in Tampa Bay when the Bucs beat the Patriots in the 2000 regular season opener and did a good job controlling New England's offense. After the game the Patriots' offensive coach, Charlie Weis, was overheard congratulating the Bucs' defensive coordinator, Monte Kiffin.
"We knew all your calls, and you still stopped us," Weis said. "I can't believe it."
He couldn't believe it because the Patriots had videotaped all of the defensive signals in their last preseason game, which was against the Bucs.
That first quote sounds like signal jamming. Impressive.
I think if all this gets exposed, and the evidence is there, the Pats may go down as the cheatingest bastiches in the NFL. This is way bigger than "everybody does it, so it's not a big deal." This is FO's and coaches knowing that one team has been far and away the leader in cheating technology.
guys its not a big deal!
Frankly, I still don't think that the sign stealing is a big deal. (Cutting off the other team's communication, on the other hand, I think is a huge deal.) But no matter how you slice it, the deserve to be punished and I'm gonna enjoy watching them be punished.
its such a big deal that every team in the league has known something was up for years yet said nothing?...could that be because everyone has been cheating?
its a big deal cause they got caught not because they have been cheating
i think the best part is that the dude was right next the jets coaches...it wasn't like he was hidden somewhere zooming on them...he was in the Meadowlands, on the Jets sidelines, standing next to them, with a huge camera just filming them.
farging balls...kinda awesome.
No doubt. Balls galore.
does anyone in boston even give a shtein? the red sox are in the playoffs. go baseball.
Eagles try and recall anything from Superbowl loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-eagles-nflspying&prov=ap&type=lgns)
QuoteEagles try and recall anything fishy about Super Bowl loss to Patriots
By DAN GELSTON, AP Sports Writer
September 13, 2007
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb walks off the field near the end of the second quarter of Super Bowl XXXIX against the New Engalnd Patriots in Jacksonville, Fla., in this Feb. 6. 2005 file photo.
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PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Sheldon Brown and the Eagles hoped a blitz would rattle Tom Brady.
One problem: Every time the Eagles rushed Brady in the Super Bowl, the Patriots nullified the defensive attack with screen passes. Lots of them. On almost every play defensive coordinator Jim Johnson called for a blitz, the Patriots used the short pass to confuse the Eagles.
After the Patriots beat the Eagles 24-21 in 2005 to win the Lombardi Trophy, Brown thought the Patriots beat them with nothing but sharp offensive playcalling. Now, he's not so sure.
With spying accusations leveled this week against the Patriots, some of the Eagles left from the NFC title team are wondering if New England used bootleg film to their advantage in the Super Bowl.
"Do I think about it? Mmm hmmm," said Brown, their starting cornerback. "It's crazy. I just don't know how far back it goes. Something's not right about that."
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Pro Bowl safety Brian Dawkins found the accusations troublesome.
"Now there's always going to be questions about the situation," Dawkins said Thursday. "Was it great adjustments at halftime or what?"
Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward said this week that he suspected the Patriots had some type of inside information on the Steelers before at least one of the teams' two AFC championship game matchups since the 2001 season. While Ward said the Patriots knew a lot of Pittsburgh's calls, none of the Eagles could offer any type of solid proof of any shenanigans.
"For me to think back two years ago about something they may or may not have done, it's not worth my time," running back Brian Westbrook said.
New England beat the New York Jets in last Sunday's season opener in which an on-field video camera allegedly focusing on Jets coaches was confiscated from a Patriots employee. The league confirmed that it is investigating whether coach Bill Belichick and the Patriots were responsible for taping the Jets' defensive coaches as they signaled to players on the field.
"I would like to think it's just one team doing it, but it doesn't shock me that it happened," Dawkins said.
Some Eagles said occasional signal-stealing is an accepted part of the game. But they believe what the Patriots are accused of doing crosses the football morality line because it threatens the integrity of the game.
"It's different if you're talking about recording it," Dawkins said. "What can you do if you try to signal a play in?"
Eagles coach Andy Reid steered away from questions about the alleged cheating other than to say he has no doubts New England's victory was legitimate.
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb (5) leads his team off the field after breaking the huddle after warm-ups prior to Super Bowl XXXIX against the New England Patriots in Jacksonville, Fla., in this Feb. 6, 2005 file photo.
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"That's something Bill and the Patriots are working through," Reid said.
Brown said he noticed a difference in New England's playcalling in the second quarter. After the Patriots gained only 45 yards in the first quarter, they had 286 over the next three.
Brady hit running back Corey Dillon and gained 29 total yards on a pair of screens to open New England's first full drive of the second quarter. They didn't score on that drive, but did on four of the next five drives.
The Patriots went to the screen pass again on the decisive drive early in the fourth quarter, this time with Brady connecting with Kevin Faulk on two passes for 27 yards.
"I was like, 'Man, I never saw that many screens," Brown said.
Brown wonders if it was normal playcalling from a team good enough to win three Super Bowls in four seasons, a Patriots team that used a strong scouting report to gain a fair edge, or was somebody picking up the Eagles defensive calls from a sideline camera that deprived them of a fair shot?
"I think they should forfeit, man," said punt returner Reno Mahe, smiling. "We won the Super Bowl. I think we should get it. I'm going to go trade my NFC championship ring for a Super Bowl ring."
The headline over a picture of Belichick on the back page of Thursday's Philadelphia Daily News might have said it all: "Counterfeit RING: Spy Scandal Helps Explain Birds' Super Bowl Loss."
Hey, maybe the illicit tape would show once and for all if Donovan McNabb really did get sick in the huddle late in the game. Remember, that was Philadelphia's first excuse for losing.
McNabb -- who insisted the Eagles would never stoop to those kind of tactics -- was surprised to hear the allegations against the Patriots. But he said the suspicions might be overblown.
"One thing people are forgetting is that even if you have the answers to the test, you still have to take the test," he said. "If they have an idea of what's coming, those guys still have to be able to execute the play."
That doesn't mean McNabb won't clear some space in his jewelry box. For a city that last saw a pro team win a championship nearly 25 years ago, the Eagles might accept a retroactive one.
"Maybe we'll get our ring back," said a chuckling McNabb. "Maybe we'll get the real one."
NFL fined the Patriots $500k and they lose their first round pick if they make the playoffs
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2007, 08:39:42 PM
NFL fined the Patriots $500k and they lose their first round pick if they make the playoffs
pretty ghey penalty, but its a lock the first rounder is gone
They have an extra 1st rounder again anyway. They traded last year's extra for one this year.
Looks like they'll be giving up their 2nd and 3rd. Oh well.
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2007, 08:39:42 PM
NFL fined the Patriots $500k and they lose their first round pick if they make the playoffs
What kind of stipulation is that?
to clarify:
Bellicheck gets fined the $500k, the Pats get fined $250k, they lose their first round pick if they make the playoffs and if they miss the playoffs they lose their 2nd and 3rd
Hahaha. In other words, they cheat for years and get nothing but a slap on the wrist.
I wonder how guys who are serving suspensions and losing far more than $500K for taking roids feel about that?
NFL = farging hypocrites.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 13, 2007, 10:07:22 PM
Hahaha. In other words, they cheat for years and get nothing but a slap on the wrist.
I wonder how guys who are serving suspensions and losing far more than $500K for taking roids feel about that?
NFL = farging hypocrites.
considering all the reports coming out i was expecting more...like a suspension for the coach and a guaranteed loss of a first round pick. i think goodell has done really well so far but this is the only time i think he went a lil soft.
if you do something outside the league to cause damage to the image of the game your gone for the year but if you do something within a game to cheat and possibly call into question the integrity of the game and you MAY lose a 1st rounder?
Goodell wasn't gonna suspend him. White boys gotta stick together.
I'm reading an article on this on Yahoo and they have Eagles super bowl loss images all over the article... HA!
Sign "stealing" = competitive advantage
Signal jamming / Headset games = cheap and dirty
If they could ever catch the Patriots for the latter, whatever. Frankly, everyone steals signs, and it just appears that the Patriots were better at it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/Alwaysphilly/gifs/recordingits.gif)
i love the eagles players are flabbergasted over the fact that a coach would make a halftime adjustment to throw screen passes to counteract a blitz...clearly they arent used to such strategy
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2007, 07:25:26 AM
i love the eagles players are flabbergasted over the fact that a coach would make a halftime adjustment to throw screen passes to counteract a blitz...clearly they arent used to such strategy
yes because the eagles players are the only players to point out some weird stuff going on when they play the patriots.
the punishment is weak.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2007, 07:25:26 AM
i love the eagles players are flabbergasted over the fact that a coach would make a halftime adjustment to throw screen passes to counteract a blitz...clearly they arent used to such strategy
Hahahaha.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-eagles-nflspying&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-eagles-nflspying&prov=ap&type=lgns)
...and so it begins...
"As the Commissioner acknowledged, our use of sideline video had no impact on the outcome of last week's game. We have never used sideline video to obtain a competitive advantage while the game was in progress."
cough, cough...bullshtein
That was a weak "punishment" since, as light bulb head pointed out, the Pats usually have extra picks (extra 1st & third in 08) for the next years draft anyway so they're not losing anything. And the fine's a damn joke for a coach making millions of dollars a year. Goodell totally lobbed a softball on this one.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 14, 2007, 09:48:52 AM
And the fine's a damn joke for a coach making millions of dollars a year. Goodell totally lobbed a softball on this one.
$500,000 is the maximum he could fine Belichick
Rotoworld:
The Buccaneers worked out free agent PR Jeremy Bloom last week.
Tampa could be looking for a replacement if Mark Jones struggles on returns going forward. The Eagles opted to bring back Reno Mahe over Bloom.
ha. please sign him
So, here's a summation of the camera thing:
1. Stealing the signs was no big deal.
2. The Patriots and/or Belichick didn't get nearly enough of a punishment.
Which is it?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 11:15:19 AM
So, here's a summation of the camera thing:
1. Stealing the signs was no big deal.
2. The Patriots and/or Belichick didn't get nearly enough of a punishment.
Which is it?
Neither, and both.
its a way overblown story
the punishment was appropriate
move on
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Rams cornerback Tye Hill suffered broke multiple bones in his back when colliding with a teammate on one of the last plays of practice on Thursday.
Hill is expected to miss 4-6 weeks. Lenny Walls will start in Hill's absence.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 11:15:19 AM
So, here's a summation of the camera thing:
1. Stealing the signs was no big deal.
2. The Patriots and/or Belichick didn't get nearly enough of a punishment.
Which is it?
It's both. Everyone does it and no one should be surprised. But if you get caught, you had better expect to be punished severely.
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
how does reno mahe get quoted in that article?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
I would have included a 1-game suspension for Belichik.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 14, 2007, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
I would have included a 1-game suspension for Belichik.
Agree. Plus make the loss of a 1st round pick no matter how they finish the year. That 1st IF they make the playoffs is ridiculous, not that it will come int play.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 14, 2007, 12:13:40 PM
how does reno mahe get quoted in that article?
Philly press interviews Reno about return to the team, asks off-handed question about Pats. Reno gives juicy answer that gets printed in the DN sensationalist article about the Pats. National media picks up juicy quote from DN.
BTW, I agree with those who think Belichick should have been suspended.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
Dismantle the Pats organization, send Tom Brady to the Browns, burn everyobe else.
The Patriots should have been sent to the CFL for the Argonaughts for a year.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 14, 2007, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
I would have included a 1-game suspension for Belichik.
That I can agree with. Preferably the game againt the Eagles.
I think the distinction is that everyone does it but not with a camera on the opposing teams sideline without even a disguise...
Quote from: PPinDC on September 14, 2007, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
Dismantle the Pats organization, send Tom Brady to the Browns, burn everyobe else.
Tom Brady and Brady Quinn on the same offense? How do you defend for that? DUAL BRADYS
Guess who's back - maybe... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-suspendedwilliams&prov=ap&type=lgns)
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Bad news for NFL linebackers, good news for soap opera fans: Ricky Williams is planning another comeback.
The suspended running back is eligible to seek reinstatement by the NFL after Oct. 1 and will do so, his attorney said Friday.
:-D
Quote"He sounds wonderful," Cornwell said. "He sounds like he's in a great place, and I'm confident that will come through to the commissioner."
Deja vu.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
lets see...wade wilson takes HGH and gets 4 games. what was he going to do? super steroid coach? if he gets 4 games and he isnt even the head coach or a coordinator, Belichick deserves at least that much. stealing signals is one thing but as it has been pointed out by the various articles....this was beyond the good old stealing signals. and the pats have a history of doing this....and i believe i heard on the radio today that just this past week, before the jets game, they were warned by the NFL to cut it out and still were caught. 4 games and a guaranteed loss of one of their first round pick.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 14, 2007, 05:54:32 PMlets see...wade wilson takes HGH and gets 4 games. what was he going to do? super steroid coach? if he gets 4 games and he isnt even the head coach or a coordinator, Belichick deserves at least that much.
ding ding ding
Exactly what I said earlier. Guys gets suspended for cheating by using drugs and get four games. Belichick gets a game for doing far worse?
NFL double standards are worse than drug laws.
QuoteBut Miami Dolphins quarterback Trent Green was among those doubting the sincerity of Belichick's apology, comparing the coach to the megalomaniacal Marine played by Jack Nicholson in the movie "A Few Good Men."
"Belichick is sitting there, and you know he is getting peeved that he is even in there -- the audacity to bring him in and question him," Green said, laughing. "The visual I have is that eventually Belichick kind of snapped and said, 'You're darn right I (did)."'
They should have confiscated his library of tapes. News film of early morning swat team raids kicking in the doors of the team offices, his house and his girl friends house would have been fun to watch.
well deserved: the url is not working for some odd reason but this is some good stuff
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0EU1O-hGxgg/ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0EU1O-hGxgg/)
Quote from: reese125 on September 15, 2007, 08:20:56 PM
well deserved:
Belichick genius no more (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0EU1O-hGxgg/)
QuoteThe url contained a malformed video id.
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Quote from: reese125 on September 15, 2007, 08:20:56 PM
well deserved:
Belichick genius no more (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0EU1O-hGxgg)
Fixed the link...
whats up skills? how did u do that?
Well, see the thing is, I rule. Hard to teach that.
cmon..I'll mail you a cookie. tell me how u did it
Anyway, the only issue I have with everyone's reaction to this is that knocking Brady is stupid. He runs the plays that are called and he executes them perfectly. His coach is a cheater and that benefits him but come on, the dude still gets the job done.
Quote from: reese125 on September 15, 2007, 08:30:22 PM
cmon..I'll mail you a cookie. tell me how u did it
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267/jeepwrang1994/youeatedcookie.jpg)
Quote from: rjs246 on September 15, 2007, 08:46:02 PM
Anyway, the only issue I have with everyone's reaction to this is that knocking Brady is stupid. He runs the plays that are called and he executes them perfectly. His coach is a cheater and that benefits him but come on, the dude still gets the job done.
im not knockin brady. just think the coach cheated and he should be punished a lil more harshly than he was.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 15, 2007, 08:46:02 PM
Anyway, the only issue I have with everyone's reaction to this is that knocking Brady is stupid. He runs the plays that are called and he executes them perfectly. His coach is a cheater and that benefits him but come on, the dude still gets the job done.
Brady's decision making is brought into question. When he knows a blitz is coming, or they know where they are shading coverage....then it's pretty easy to throw the ball in the right spot.
That said...he still has to go it....so his talent shouldnt be questioned though.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3022773
I'm sure Belichick had a midnight shredding and videotape burning party recently, I doubt they find anything.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 14, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: PPinDC on September 14, 2007, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
For the armchair commissioners who feel that the punishment was not severe enough, what do you think it should have been?
Dismantle the Pats organization, send Tom Brady to the Browns, burn everyobe else.
Tom Brady and Brady Quinn on the same offense? How do you defend for that? DUAL BRADYS
Change the name from the Browns to The Brady Bunch?
Looks like the Packers are going to beat the Giants, the Texans are going to beat the Panthers and the Bucs are going to beat the Saints. The Browns are also 10 points up on the Bengals. :o
What's most amazing about that Browns score, they have 41 points and only three guys have caught passes. Ridiculous.
Carson Palmer has 5 TDs, and he's losing.
Vince Young laterals to an OL with the game on the line. Colts win 22-20
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 16, 2007, 03:26:59 PM
Looks like the Packers are going to beat the Giants, the Texans are going to beat the Panthers and the Bucs are going to beat the Saints. The Browns are also 10 points up on the Bengals. :o
That was expected except the Browns. The Saints suck and were a fluke last year, and the Giants have no defense and no QB.
My home league team sucks. I am embarrassed for everyone.
OMG D3RRIK @nD3rsunz!!
:crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy
I've been busy all day but just noticed that the Packers smoked the Vadges. So, is it a case of the Packers being much better or the Vadges being much worse than anyone thought?
Regardless, it's nice to see the Romes in blue get torched at home.
Where are all of the posters who were going on and on and on about 1 week not being indicative of a team like the Saints?
Total freak game in Cleveland. One of the highest scoring games in history, and there's still over 3 minutes left and no evidence of any defense by either team.
Browns win 51-45!
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 16, 2007, 04:22:49 PM
Total freak game in Cleveland. One of the highest scoring games in history, and there's still over 3 minutes left and no evidence of any defense by either team.
Until the Browns intercept Palmer to secure the win.
Palmer had six farging touchdowns and someone named Derek Anderson had five.
Good God.
Looks like the Browns don't need to deploy the dual Brady offense.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 16, 2007, 04:43:29 PM
Palmer had six farging touchdowns and someone named Derek Anderson had five.
Good God.
Palmer had 49 fantasy pts. on cbs sportsline. Wow.
Belichick is signing a long-term extension with the Patriots.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 16, 2007, 07:49:01 PM
Belichick is signing a long-term extension with the Patriots.
How dramatic. Meh.
I know that Godell was speaking a lot of legalese gibberish, but what I was mostly hearing was
(http://www.sci.fi/~ivanoff/starwave.jpg)
Go ahead... make my day.
nm
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 16, 2007, 04:02:53 PM
Vince Young laterals to an OL with the game on the line. Colts win 22-20
typical.
Buffalo opens as a 16.5-point underdog at New England :deion
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 18, 2007, 12:43:42 AM
Buffalo opens as a 16.5-point underdog at New England :deion
Bet on NE. Heavily.
Oh, wait, I don't gamble. Never mind.
TMQ does a great job of laying out the potential repercussions and hints at the possible depth of the Patriots cheating ways. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/070918&sportCat=nfl)
One of the better TMQ articles I've read recently.
Highlights:
QuoteWhy is the situation worse than people think? Because the NFL is on the precipice of blowing its status as the country's favorite sport. The whole NFL enterprise is in jeopardy from that single word: cheating. It's the most distasteful word in sports. And now the Patriots have brought the word into the NFL.
Think the NFL can't decline? Fifteen years ago, the National Basketball Association was going up, up, up by every measure and was widely considered the gold-plated can't-miss "sport of the next century." Since then, NBA popularity and ratings have plummeted while NBA-based teams have floundered in international competition. At the moment of its maximum success, the NBA became overconfident and arrogant in ways that need not be recounted here. Key point: There was no law of nature that said the NBA had to stay popular, and it did not.
Today the NFL is king of the hill in sports status, ratings, merchandising and association with the American psyche. There is no law of nature that says the NFL has to stay popular. Overconfidence and arrogance could be the downfall of the NFL, too – and we might be on that precipice. People will always watch and play football, of course. But nothing guarantees that the NFL's version of football must remain the super-successful money machine that it is today. There could be autumn Sunday afternoons in the near future in which the overwhelming majority of Americans couldn't care less what NFL games are being shown. Fifteen years ago, sports-marketing types would have said "impossible!" to the notion that only 11 percent of American households would watch the NBA Finals, which is what happened this June. Plummeting popularity for NFL broadcasts seems "impossible!" right now, but might happen fast enough to make your head swim.
Criminal behavior by NFL players, haughty owners who demand public subsidies, negative press for the union, coaches who snarl at the public instead of acting grateful for their privileged positions, insufferable egotism from multimillionaire athletes: All these things can be overlooked as long as the games themselves are good. If the games themselves are tainted, the NFL could tumble with amazing speed. And now there is a cheating scandal – cheating by the team that presented itself as the epitome of the sport – which calls the games themselves into question.
First we learn that the Patriots were cheating by using video equipment to steal signs, in blatant violation of league rules. Then we learn that even after the scandal broke and Bill Belichick issued his Nixonian stonewalling statement, the Patriots were still keeping sign-stealing videotapes and notes from past games. Surrender of the tapes and notes was the subject of Goodell's emergency order, first reported by ESPN's Chris Mortensen. Sunday night on NBC's "Football Night in America," Goodell threatened more punishment of the Patriots if all cheating materials aren't surrendered, and repeatedly declared it was imperative that NFL games be fair and equal competition. That's exactly the crux of the threat Belichick has created to the league's golden goose.
QuoteAnd the Patriots' cheating might have been more extensive than so far confirmed. Fox Sports reported that former NFL players believe Belichick had microphones installed in the shoulder pads of defensive linemen so the Patriots could tape other teams' offensive audibles and line calls. Needless to say, putting microphones on players violates NFL rules. Andrea Kremer of NBC reported that several teams might charge the Patriots this week with having stolen playbooks from the visitors' dressing room. The convenient "malfunction" of visiting teams' headphones at the Patriots' two fields under Belichick seems to have happened far too often to be an IT department error. The rumor mill says Belichick, Richard Nixon-style, has file cabinets of info on opposing coaches and assistant coaches – some gleaned honestly, some obtained by cheating.
It seems more than just an eerie coincidence that Belichick's unethical behavior involves illicit taping, the same offense that made Nixon's actions so sordid. The parallels to Nixon don't stop there. Caught, Belichick – like Nixon – tried to hide the true extent of the prohibited acts; Belichick – like Nixon – tried to claim his prohibited action hadn't been prohibited; Belichick – like Nixon – immediately stonewalled. It would be tempting to break the unhappy tone of this column with a Nixon joke – when the league plays Belichick's tape of the Jets' sideline, will there be an 18-and-a-half minute gap? But for all lovers of the NFL, there's just nothing to laugh about now.
The Patriots announced they have hired "Swede" Risberg to investigate cheating allegations against the team.
What else is there about New England cheating that the team or league isn't telling us? Are the Patriots one bad apple, or is cheating common in the league? Worst, did the Patriots cheat in their Super Bowl wins? If New England was cheating in the Super Bowl, this will become the darkest sports scandal since Shoeless Joe and the Black Sox. If you don't think Goodell and all owners, including Robert Kraft of New England, are in abject terror of any possible disclosure that the Patriots were cheating in the Super Bowl, perhaps you just don't understand the situation.
The weasel wording of Belichick's Nixonian statement shows the New England coach full of contempt for the NFL fans, and the NFL enterprise, that made him a wealthy celebrity. Belichick declared that his super-elaborate cheating system was only a "mistake" caused by his "interpretation" of the league's rule. Wait, "interpretation"? The NFL rule bans teams from filming each other's sidelines. There's no room for interpretation, it's a ban! Here's the NFL policy, from a memo sent to all head coaches and general managers Sept. 6, 2006: "Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game." Prohibited. There's nothing there to "interpret." Videotaping opponent's signals even after getting this warning isn't a "mistake," it's cheating. Belichick's cheating was not some casual spur-of-the-moment blunder but rather an elaborate staffed system that took a lot of work to put into place and that Belichick worked hard to hide. And you don't hide something unless you are ashamed of it.
QuoteNow, caught, Belichick wants a special exemption to responsibility for his own choices. Belichick also is trying to close the matter by saying he won't talk about it anymore. So he cheated and now unilaterally declares the matter closed because he doesn't want to face the consequences of his own choices. But this is not over and not going away. Before the cheating scandal, Belichick had a reputation for being heartless but a really good coach. Now, he seems little more than a creepy con artist, and it's the refusal to act like a man and take full responsibility that's really offensive. Goodell's draft-choice penalty against the Patriots – either a first or a second and a third – is the highest draft penalty ever imposed in the NFL. The severity of this sanction shows how seriously Goodell takes the violation. If more disclosures are coming, there might be a lot more punishment of the Patriots. And unless Belichick comes clean and stops lying about his cheating, this event should disqualify him from consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame – it is, after all, not the Hall of Cheaters.
Will Belichick even be in coaching by season's end? When the Vick dogfighting scandal first broke, most football pundits, and most in the Atlanta and league offices, thought there would be few repercussions. Then they thought Vick would have to make some kind of apology. Then they thought he'd need some leave of absence. Then they thought he'd be suspended for a year. Now they wonder whether he'll ever be allowed to play again. By acting Nixonian, Belichick is accelerating his fall from grace. Today, Belichick and New England are trying to pretend the scandal is over. It would not surprise me in the slightest if, before the season ends, Belichick resigns, or is suspended, or is fired by Kraft, or even is permanently barred from the league. Belichick's head might be necessary to preserve the integrity of the game. Surprisingly soon, sacrificing Belichick to save professional football might seem an attractive option, even to Kraft. Remember, there is no law of nature that says the NFL must remain popular.
IF it's proven that the cheating was as widespread as rumored, and IF it's proven that Belichick was the mastermind, keeper, and guard of the black secrets, then there is no doubt he needs to be fired, banned, and put out of the leagues misery. Also with any of his lieutenants that were part of the scandal. In addition, the team needs to be punished severely for it's part.
How inappropriate and egotistical and in-your-face was Kraft's decision to award Belichick the game ball this Sunday? Sure, I get the imagery that it was a gesture of solidarity and support, but it still was a huge smack across the face to the very organization that lets these people reap millions of dollars every year.
And, what does the NFL do about the three Super Bowls if evidence of cheating is found to have occurred in just one of them?
This is an ugly situation, and it requires swift and severe punishment.
Atlanta signed Leftwich to a 2-yr deal
Quote from: Father Demon on September 18, 2007, 05:37:57 PM
IF it's proven that the cheating was as widespread as rumored, and IF it's proven that Belichick was the mastermind, keeper, and guard of the black secrets, then there is no doubt he needs to be fired, banned, and put out of the leagues misery. Also with any of his lieutenants that were part of the scandal. In addition, the team needs to be punished severely for it's part.
Obviously this goes alot deeper than I initially thought (I thought it was just sign stealing) but if it turns out that there's solid evidence about them illegally video taping defensive signals prior to the Jets and micing up players to learn their audibles and stealing playbooks, etc, etc, etc. Then I don't see how the league can do anything other than ban him for life ala Shoeless Joe and anyone else with working knowledge of it.
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How inappropriate and egotistical and in-your-face was Kraft's decision to award Belichick the game ball this Sunday? Sure, I get the imagery that it was a gesture of solidarity and support, but it still was a huge smack across the face to the very organization that lets these people reap millions of dollars every year.
I think that Kraft was just trying to show support. To my knowledge there's nothing linking Kraft directly to any of this or even implying that he knew it was happening. I think that was just a businessman in the public eye making a PR type move. Behind closed doors though I bet he's already told Belicheck that this better not come back to bite him in the ass in the public eye.
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And, what does the NFL do about the three Super Bowls if evidence of cheating is found to have occurred in just one of them?
Tough call and I think that depends on whether it's proven that players took an active part in the cheating. If they did, then I think that the NFL needs to strip the team of their titles without hesitation. If the cheating was strictly perpetrated by the coaching staff then there's a lot of grey area imo because I don't know if the players should be punished for having a crooked coaching staff.
Regardless, what I DO NOT want to see happen is the NFL retroactively award the championship to The Rams, Panthers and Eagles. I'm hurting just as much as anyone to see this team win a championship and I would absolutely hate for the 1st one to come this way. It would be meaningless as far as I'm concerned.....regardless of what Reno Mahe thinks.
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This is an ugly situation, and it requires swift and severe punishment.
Ugly, yes. But what it requires right now is a swift but extremely thorough investigation before handing out punishments.
Exactly why I predicated it all with the big IF.. prove first, then punish if found guilty.
And I agree with you on awarding the SB's to the losers. It's not the way I want to witness the first Eagles SB victory, but then again it may be the only one I see in my lifetime. Hmmm......
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a sec:
With all the players out there like Vinatieri, Givens, and Branch that the Patriots got rid of or wouldn't pay... would not one of them have blown the whistle by now?
you stole that directly from Bill Simmons article today
I kid you not when I say I haven't read a Bill Simmons article in at least a couple of months.
I do work with a bunch of Patriots fans now, though, so that could be part of my problem.
His whiney homer defense of his butt buddy (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/bostonblog)
QuoteWouldn't one disgruntled ex-Pat over the past five years (and there have been many) have blown the whistle on them just to stick it to Belichick?
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 18, 2007, 08:21:17 PM
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a sec:
With all the players out there like Vinatieri, Givens, and Branch that the Patriots got rid of or wouldn't pay... would not one of them have blown the whistle by now?
whos saying Brady or those players mentioned even knew about it. I think stealing playbooks, microphones on shoulderpads (which would be the strongest microphones ever made by humans), and any of the other stuff is garbage.
Some of the tape that was confiscated (http://faniq.com/blog/Video-FOX-NFL-Sundays-Jay-Glazer-Shows-Video-of-Patriots-Filming-Jets-Defensive-Signals-Blog-4211)
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 18, 2007, 08:21:17 PM
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a sec:
With all the players out there like Vinatieri, Givens, and Branch that the Patriots got rid of or wouldn't pay... would not one of them have blown the whistle by now?
I actually don't beleive many...if any of the players knew.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 18, 2007, 10:05:21 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 18, 2007, 08:21:17 PM
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a sec:
With all the players out there like Vinatieri, Givens, and Branch that the Patriots got rid of or wouldn't pay... would not one of them have blown the whistle by now?
I actually don't beleive many...if any of the players knew.
That would be impossible if he was miking them up, no?
As an NFL fan, I want to see this go away. Hate on the Patriots all you want, but they're arguably the best team in the NFL right now and certainly are over the last 5-7 years. Alienating their fan base and bringing into question the validity of their Super Bowl wins is bad for the league as a whole.
Plus, the Eagles really suck a massive amount of anus right now, so it matters not to me if the Patriots are taken out of contention this year. I'd rather they get to play so they can beat the Cowboys in the Super Bowl.
The Bowtie signed with the Bengals.
Jesus, are they trying to allow 60 next week?
Hey, at least their organization has a goal and is putting a plan in place to achieve it.
Note to self: start any tight end playing against Bengals in all fantasy leagues.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 18, 2007, 10:05:21 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 18, 2007, 08:21:17 PM
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a sec:
With all the players out there like Vinatieri, Givens, and Branch that the Patriots got rid of or wouldn't pay... would not one of them have blown the whistle by now?
I actually don't beleive many...if any of the players knew.
im not sure how deep it goes but it would have to be that the players didnt know. that automaticaly IMO throws out the shoulder pad theory.
so im about to lose my 18th straight fantasy game...but thats another story...
im analyzing my draft and wondering how i could have passed on tom brady...anyway while doing this i came across his stats for the year so far...
first off he is completing 80% of his passes :o
hes also on pace for 4700 yds....53 tds and 5 picks
just farging absurd
his second TD pass to Moss yesterday was farging perfect
Quote from: SunMo on September 24, 2007, 04:59:23 PM
his second TD pass to Moss yesterday was farging perfect
he cheated >:D
I picked Lee Evans over T.O. and Holt :'(
I picked that peice of shtein, Lee Evans too...in about the 5th round...I am not sure he has more than 1 god damn catch yet.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 24, 2007, 05:03:19 PM
I picked that peice of shtein, Lee Evans too...in about the 5th round...I am not sure he has more than 1 god damn catch yet.
its only gonna get worse i think with Losman out
Lee Evans will come on later this year. This happens every year with him.
Taking him over TO and Holt, however, was just plain retarded.
Poz is out for the year with a broken forearm
sean payton with a andy reid like call....4rth and 1 and he goes for a play action deep bomb.
Steven Jackson is out next week with a tear in his groin muscle against the Cowboys. He may be out longer, but so far only one week is confirmed.
Cowboys go 4-0.
the titans have a tremendous defensive line, they are eating the saints up
I can't bring myself to look at the GameCenter for a non Eagles game, so I have no idea what is going on...haven't even looked at the score.
Now I'm curious.
The Titans D line just ate up a Reggie Bush touchdown.
admittedly, i'm talking things you can't really see on GameCenter
Another blowout loss and the Saints fall to 0-3 :poison
Deuce has torn ACL per ESPN.com.
Quote from: King Cole on September 25, 2007, 02:40:29 AM
Deuce has torn ACL per ESPN.com.
That's the preliminary analysis, an MRI today will confirm. Looks like we probably won't have to worry about him carrying half the Eagles defense into the endzone when we play the Saints in December.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 25, 2007, 07:06:35 AM
Quote from: King Cole on September 25, 2007, 02:40:29 AM
Deuce has torn ACL per ESPN.com.
That's the preliminary analysis, an MRI today will confirm. Looks like we probably won't have to worry about him carrying half the Eagles defense into the endzone when we play the Saints in December.
lets just hope saints are not in the middle of their late season playoff push win streak when we face them.
Stick a fork in the Aints, they're done. Brees doesn't look like the same player as last year, the picks he threw were Mike McMahon vs. the Seahawks on MNFesque.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 25, 2007, 07:57:12 AM
Stick a fork in the Aints, they're done. Brees doesn't look like the same player as last year, the picks he threw were Mike McMahon vs. the Seahawks on MNFesque.
i know 0-3 is almost impossible to climb out of but this is the NFC. the only team that even looks good so far is dallas and im not sold on GB still. not sold on the bucs. they can turn it around...not that i want them too....i just want brees to help me win my fantasy league. damn loser has cost me 2 weeks already.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
so im about to lose my 18th straight fantasy game...but thats another story...
im analyzing my draft and wondering how i could have passed on tom brady...anyway while doing this i came across his stats for the year so far...
first off he is completing 80% of his passes :o
hes also on pace for 4700 yds....53 tds and 5 picks
just farging absurd
I didn't. Didn't pass on Moss either. Monster pitch and catch for dat ass! :yay :yay :yay
Quote from: Father Demon on September 24, 2007, 09:15:13 PM
Steven Jackson is out next week with a tear in his groin muscle against the Cowboys. He may be out longer, but so far only one week is confirmed.
This is what's gonna end up farging me. I had the plan to get by with my other backs (Marion Barber and McAllister) for a week or two until Jackson gets back... but of course, in typical "farg you Feva" fantasy fashion, McAllister is maybe out for the year now too. :boom
last night i was down by 11 going into the game and had eric johnson vs a defensive player to break my streak
unlikely probably but a decent chance for johnson to get a td and a few catches for 12
of course the defensive player was keith bullock who has three interceptions....game over
im convinced ill never win again
drew brees looks a lot like eli manning the last few years...how many falling away passes is he throwing this year....hes def has no confidence right now and is super gun shy
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 19, 2007, 12:54:35 PM
The Bowtie signed with the Bengals.
I heard his name called on two consecutive plays on Sunday. TWO IN A ROW!
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 25, 2007, 08:20:24 AM... but of course, in typical "farg you Feva" fantasy fashion, McAllister is maybe out for the year now too. :boom
:-D :-D :-D
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Griese to replace Grossman at QB for Bears
NFL.com Wire Reports
The NFL Network's Adam Schefter has confirmed that Brian Griese will start at quarterback Sunday for the Chicago Bears.
Griese will replace Rex Grossman, who threw three interceptions as the Chicago Bears fell to the Dallas Cowboys 34-10 on Sunday night and did not get a vote of confidence from his coach a day later.
"Will Rex Grossman start Sunday?" coach Lovie Smith asked on Monday, repeating the question. "Well, our evaluation process is going on right now, and if you come out to practice Wednesday, you'll have a better idea of who will be starting at all positions."
Smith gave his usual answer when asked Sunday night about Grossman -- "Rex Grossman is our quarterback" -- but his tone was different on Monday, fueling speculation Brian Griese might start Sunday against Detroit.
Grossman's supporters would have a hard time arguing against the move, considering he ranks 23rd in the league with 500 yards, has a 45.2 passer rating and is 47-of-89 (52.8 percent) with a league-leading six interceptions and just one touchdown.
But is Griese the answer?
A Pro Bowl pick with Denver in 2000, he has passed for 16,564 yards, but has also been released three times -- by the Broncos, Miami and Tampa Bay.
"I have confidence in our entire football team," Smith said. "Brian is a part of that. After you have a loss like that, we all feel bad. We should."
And Smith realizes something needs to change -- quickly.
At 1-2, the Bears are certainly not living up to those soaring expectations after last season's Super Bowl appearance. Besides Grossman's struggles, injuries are mounting.
They lost former Pro Bowl safety Mike Brown and starting nose tackle Dusty Dvoracek to season-ending knee injuries in the opener at San Diego. And on Sunday, Bears were falling like dominoes.
Linebacker Lance Briggs (groin), cornerback Nathan Vasher (groin) and defensive tackle Tommie Harris (knee) all left the game with injuries. Offensive lineman Ruben Brown suffered what was announced as a game-ending ankle injury, although he returned near the end.
"All of these injuries we're evaluating right now," Smith said. "I can't give you anything else."
As for the evaluation at quarterback, Grossman's troubles are well-documented and they explain why the Bears let him enter this season with an expiring contract rather than an extension.
He was the NFC Offensive Player of the Month last September. Now, he may not be the starting quarterback when September ends.
There certainly is blame to pass around, but the focus is on the quarterback.
The Bears were hoping Grossman would play the way he did the first five weeks last season and ditch the inconsistency he showed the rest of the way.
Well, he is more consistent.
The problem is "Bad Rex" keeps lining up behind center, and that's bad news for the Bears.
Smith stuck with Grossman last season, but that leash appears to be growing shorter with each pass into double or triple coverage; there were a few of those on Sunday night.
Like the one that Anthony Henry picked off early in the fourth quarter.
Dallas' Nick Folk had just kicked a 44-yard field goal when Grossman tried to hit Muhsin Muhammad in triple coverage. Henry intercepted and ran it back 28 yards for a touchdown that made it 27-10 and put away the Bears.
Grossman didn't get much help.
"All the way around the whole offense, it was one of those days where it seemed like we'd get something going and it'd fall back, and we just couldn't get anything going," wide receiver Bernard Berrian said.
Cedric Benson managed 46 yards after running for 101 the previous week in a 20-10 victory over Kansas City.
A wide-open Berrian dropped what might have been a 35-yard touchdown pass. And Muhammad seemed to stop on a deep route over the middle on the first play of the second quarter, resulting in an interception for Henry.
Smith called it "bad timing between the quarterback and receiver."
Although fans booed and chanted for Griese, teammates continued to support Grossman.
"Rex is my guy. Rex is my guy until the end," tight end Desmond Clark said. "He didn't have his greatest game (Sunday), but if you ask me Rex is my guy."
But for how much longer?
"We're talking a lot about Rex, and I guess we should," Smith said. "I would talk about our football team. I made a lot of mistakes yesterday. We all did. That was a team loss. ... You can't give a quarterback all the blame."
About farging time.
Personally, I was hoping that Grossman would still be starting when they play the Eagles. Greise isn't really a step up though. It's more like a lateral move so the Eagles D should still get plenty of chances to force turnovers against them. But still.....with Wrecks under center, it all but guaranteed a big day for the Eagles D.
QuoteJaguars | Team wants Jones to play better
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:45:32 -0700
The Jacksonville Jaguars made WR Matt Jones the emergency quarterback Week 3 because they wanted to send him a message to start playing better or he will continue to be deactivated.
Reggie Brown will be the emergency QB for the Eagles next week, I heard.
Philadelphia's games:
1PM FOX = Rams/Cowboys
1PM CBS = Jets/Bills
4PM CBS = Steelers/Cardinals
craptastic
good for my fantasy teams. marc bluger + lee evans doing nothing = me imitating igy
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 25, 2007, 10:58:10 PM
Philadelphia's games:
1PM FOX = Rams/Cowboys
1PM CBS = Jets/Bills
4PM CBS = Steelers/Cardinals
craptastic
Somebody up there loves you... DirecTV!
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 26, 2007, 08:39:38 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 25, 2007, 10:58:10 PM
Philadelphia's games:
1PM FOX = Rams/Cowboys
1PM CBS = Jets/Bills
4PM CBS = Steelers/Cardinals
craptastic
Somebody up there loves you... DirecTV!
:-D
9ers signed KR Michael Lewis, which, of course, gives them two guys named Michael Lewis...and I may be the only person to find that amusing.
Hi-Larious:
Quotehttp://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/288041.html
I laughed my ass off at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0KmjqabDUU
thats freakin hilarious
The company started taking online pre-orders Thursday for a five-pack of sodas with flavors it says reflect the hard work of professional football players. Clare Bowles, a spokeswoman for the Seattle-based company, said the four literally named flavors -- Dirt, Sports Cream, Perspiration and Natural Field Turf -- are "pretty lifelike." (http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/28/news/funny/bc.apfn.jonessoda.newfla.ap/index.htm)
I'm just glad there are no Porno Star sodas.
Quote from: PPinDC on September 28, 2007, 10:54:52 AM
I laughed my ass off at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0KmjqabDUU
:-D
Quote from: Father Demon on September 28, 2007, 12:42:43 PM
The company started taking online pre-orders Thursday for a five-pack of sodas with flavors it says reflect the hard work of professional football players. Clare Bowles, a spokeswoman for the Seattle-based company, said the four literally named flavors -- Dirt, Sports Cream, Perspiration and Natural Field Turf -- are "pretty lifelike." (http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/28/news/funny/bc.apfn.jonessoda.newfla.ap/index.htm)
I'm just glad there are no Porno Star sodas.
Then what the hell do you call this?
Quote"Perspiration Soda is kind of salty tasting," she said, with a slightly higher sodium content than the average soda, with a smooth, "stinky football sock" finish.
The Bengals have asked for permission to shoot pigeons before their games because they keep pooping on their fans.
Something to make rjs happy:
QuoteTitans QB still upset over losing Heisman to Reggie Bush
September 27, 2007
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Titans quarterback Vince Young thanked Reggie Bush for helping him get tickets to Monday night's game in New Orleans. That doesn't mean Young has forgotten losing the Heisman Trophy to the running back.
Young tells "60 Minutes" in an interview performed in June but airing Sunday night that he was angry about not taking the Heisman Trophy back with him to Texas in December 2005. He finished second in voting behind the Southern California running back.
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"And I wanted to show the world that I was the real Heisman Trophy winner. But on paper, Reggie Bush is the Heisman Trophy winner. (I am) not taking nothing from him, he knows he's a phenomenal athlete," Young said in the interview.
Is he better than Bush?
"I always feel like I'm better. Always," Young said.
Young responded by running for 200 yards and throwing for 267 in beating Bush and the Trojans in the Rose Bowl for the BCS national championship in January 2006.
Young finished that season with 3,036 yards passing, 26 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He ran for 1,050 yards and 12 touchdowns.
Bush had 1,740 yards rushing, 478 yards receiving and returned 18 punts for 179 yards. Bush led the nation with an average of 222.3 all-purpose yards and scored 19 touchdowns.
Bush also was drafted a spot ahead of Young in April 2006.
Young easily won the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award by going 8-5 as a starter. He set a rookie quarterback rushing record with 552 yards and became the first rookie quarterback to play in the Pro Bowl since Dan Marino in 1983 as a late addition.
<rjs> Worst QB in the NFL </rjs>
QuotePATS HIT WITH CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT
A pair of lawyers in New Jersey have filed a class-action lawsuit in federal court on behalf of all Jets season-ticketholders who paid for seats to watch the Patriots and at the Meadowlands during the eight-year Bill Belichick era.
The action arises from the finding earlier this month that the Pats were secretly videotaping the defensive signals sent from the Jets' assistant coaches to the players on the field.
Alleging that the cheating violated the federal RICO laws and the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act, the lawsuit seeks $184 million in damages. The number comes from the $61.8 million paid for tickets to the game, which is trebled under the theories alleged.
"How many times have the Patriots done this? We find it hard to believe they did it just once," attorney Carl Mayer said, according to the Associated Press. "We just want to get to the truth of the matter of what the Patriots did to the Jets. I think the ticket holders are genuinely concerned about it. This is a type of misrepresentation."
Cases of this nature -- which some might call aggressive and others might describe as frivolous -- hinge initially on the identification of one or more legal theories that, if the facts alleged are proven to be true, will support a claim for the relief sought. On that point, we plan to track down a copy of the complaint and give it a fair and objective analysis.
If the lawsuit can survive an initial challenge based on what's known in the profession as a "motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim" under Rule 12(b)(6) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, then the question becomes whether the plaintiffs can prove the alleged facts.
And the problem for the Patriots is that the evidence of historical cheating was given to the NFL, which promptly destroyed it.
Um, that's a potential problem.
The suit also will expose Belichick and his current and former assistant coaches and all current and former employees of the football operations to depositions under oath.
That's a potential problem, too.
Stay tuned on this one. The primary battleground will be the motion to dismiss. Because once the pre-trial discovery process begins, things could turn very ugly, very quickly.
The farg? Goddamn lawyers and whiners....
(http://images.sportsline.com/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/303081.jpg)
Jeff Reed...Steelers kicker...your thoughts.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2007, 02:14:21 AM
(http://images.sportsline.com/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/303081.jpg)
Jeff Reed...Steelers kicker...your thoughts.
He LOVES the cock.
looks like bigbird
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 28, 2007, 06:57:09 PM
Something to make rjs happy:
QuoteTitans QB still upset over losing Heisman to Reggie Bush
September 27, 2007
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Titans quarterback Vince Young thanked Reggie Bush for helping him get tickets to Monday night's game in New Orleans. That doesn't mean Young has forgotten losing the Heisman Trophy to the running back.
Young tells "60 Minutes" in an interview performed in June but airing Sunday night that he was angry about not taking the Heisman Trophy back with him to Texas in December 2005. He finished second in voting behind the Southern California running back.
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"And I wanted to show the world that I was the real Heisman Trophy winner. But on paper, Reggie Bush is the Heisman Trophy winner. (I am) not taking nothing from him, he knows he's a phenomenal athlete," Young said in the interview.
Is he better than Bush?
"I always feel like I'm better. Always," Young said.
Young responded by running for 200 yards and throwing for 267 in beating Bush and the Trojans in the Rose Bowl for the BCS national championship in January 2006.
Young finished that season with 3,036 yards passing, 26 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He ran for 1,050 yards and 12 touchdowns.
Bush had 1,740 yards rushing, 478 yards receiving and returned 18 punts for 179 yards. Bush led the nation with an average of 222.3 all-purpose yards and scored 19 touchdowns.
Bush also was drafted a spot ahead of Young in April 2006.
Young easily won the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award by going 8-5 as a starter. He set a rookie quarterback rushing record with 552 yards and became the first rookie quarterback to play in the Pro Bowl since Dan Marino in 1983 as a late addition.
Let it go and learn to throw overhand, Vince.
warner>leinart>young
right?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2007, 02:14:21 AM
(http://images.sportsline.com/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/303081.jpg)
Jeff Reed...Steelers kicker...your thoughts.
he shaved his head last week.
and i wish i didn't know that.
Rumor is that Travis Henry has tested positive for smoking weed. This would be his third violation of the NFL's drug policy and would lead to an immediate one-year suspension.
My Selvin Young Handicap, is looking fairly money right now.
tell me about it, i was quite chagrin when i just checked the free agent pool for him
"And with nine mouths to feed and no other obvious marketable skills, we can't say we blame him for trying."
I mean, is it really that hard to pull out? Seriously?
Hes gotta be shteintin bricks right now, and its a crying shame all those kids will starve to death...please
there goes the weed makes you impotent argument
what in gods name is making these guys go back to their living room after practice or a game and spark a blunt up?
I mean, it wasnt a crazy little dream that a guy handed him a cup just some months ago, and told him to go piss in the boys room down the hall....was it?
"Ahh, farg it...this is some good shtein."
Look, I love me some squeef as much as the next guy, and I think that marijuana laws are idiotic, contradictory and racially enforced, but farg dude. If someone paid me 12 mil and said 'stay off teh pot for the next five years' I would have absolutely no trouble keeping my nose clean. farging retarded athletes.
truth
Quote from: SunMo on October 04, 2007, 11:08:17 PM
tell me about it, i was quite chagrin when i just checked the free agent pool for him
I actually had him a while back just to piss in rjs' cheerios... but I had to drop him to add CHRIS COOLEY.
skrilla be good yo.
maybe hes got some jew blood in him. every jew i know loves weed.
Dude is obviously not good at impulse control or long-term decision making.
He has 9 kids and he is 24!
Travis Henry turns 29 this month.
Proof that kids accelerate the aging process.
Mack Strong retires due to neck injury (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AiAmOoAyc6DimhtRVdFotbVDubYF?slug=ap-seahawks-strong&prov=ap&type=lgns)
That sucks. Damn good football player and seems like a pretty good guy overall.
Yikes, I knew he got farged up in that game, but I didn't know he got that farged up. Good luck to him. And to Shaun Alexander, who might need the luck even more now.
from
Geo's link
QuoteWhen asked if he had shared with Zoe Sunday night upon his return home any thought that this injury would end his career, Strong chuckled.
"Actually, when I got home last night, my wife had a bad headache. I had to take her to the emergency room," Strong said, laughing loudly. "I got hit so hard, my wife had a headache."
Strong's most enduring memory of his career goes beyond finally making it to the Super Bowl at the end of the 2005 season, when his blocking sent Alexander to the league MVP award and Strong to the Pro Bowl for the first time.
It goes back to his first flight to Seattle, out of Georgia in the spring of '93 as that undrafted, no-chance free agent. Strong didn't have enough money to buy luggage. So he borrowed his mother's suitcases. He put all his shoes in a garbage bag.
"I remember going down to the carousel down at baggage claim to get my garbage bag full of tennis shoes. And I remember someone saying, 'Somebody put a garbage bag on there,"' Strong said. "Just as I was about to reach for it, I took my hand back. I walked away for a little while and came back when everyone kind of left.
"Boy, you talk about humble beginnings. I feel like I've been given a lot over the last 15 years."
Quote from: Diomedes on October 09, 2007, 10:53:31 AM
from Geo's link
QuoteWhen asked if he had shared with Zoe Sunday night upon his return home any thought that this injury would end his career, Strong chuckled.
"Actually, when I got home last night, my wife had a bad headache. I had to take her to the emergency room," Strong said, laughing loudly. "I got hit so hard, my wife had a headache."
Strong's most enduring memory of his career goes beyond finally making it to the Super Bowl at the end of the 2005 season, when his blocking sent Alexander to the league MVP award and Strong to the Pro Bowl for the first time.
It goes back to his first flight to Seattle, out of Georgia in the spring of '93 as that undrafted, no-chance free agent. Strong didn't have enough money to buy luggage. So he borrowed his mother's suitcases. He put all his shoes in a garbage bag.
"I remember going down to the carousel down at baggage claim to get my garbage bag full of tennis shoes. And I remember someone saying, 'Somebody put a garbage bag on there,"' Strong said. "Just as I was about to reach for it, I took my hand back. I walked away for a little while and came back when everyone kind of left.
"Boy, you talk about humble beginnings. I feel like I've been given a lot over the last 15 years."
I always liked Mack, that story makes you like him even more. Not enough guys like him in sports
In all fairness, he could still be a massive fleshpop, for all you know.
Unfarginglikely.
Next week's Bears/Eagles game is no longer the national one for 4:15. It's now an alternate to Vikings/Cowboys, which was moved yesterday
Another farging game that isn't starting at 1:00.
I hate the NFL.
Matt Leinart done for the year. Tim Rattay signed to be Warner's backup...
Michael Bennett traded to Tampa Bay for TBD (probably a draft pick)
Chris Chambers traded to the Chargers for a 2nd-rd pick
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 16, 2007, 04:01:33 PM
Chris Chambers traded to the Chargers for a 2nd-rd pick
Wow. The Dolphins giving up on this season and trying to get some of their younger offensive players some snaps. A second rounder isn't a bad return on investment either. Pretty good deal really.
so now the dolphins get to really see how much ted ginn jr sucks?
Quote from: rjs246 on October 16, 2007, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 16, 2007, 04:01:33 PM
Chris Chambers traded to the Chargers for a 2nd-rd pick
Wow. The Dolphins giving up on this season and trying to get some of their younger offensive players some snaps. A second rounder isn't a bad return on investment either. Pretty good deal really.
Not a bad deal for the Chargers either. Change of scenery might be what Chambers needs.
QuoteChange of scenery might be what Chambers needs.
understatement
Rivers got to be a happy dude tonight.
completions: 169
attempts: 229
comp %: 73.8%
yards: 2,125
td's: 27
int's: 2
passer rating: 137.9
on pace for 62 td and 5 int for 4,857 yds
ridiculous
Plenty of time to get your errands in before the draft now:
QuoteNFL | League makes changes to NFL Draft
Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:36:23 -0700
The Associated Press reports the National Football League announced Tuesday, Oct. 23, that they will cut the time between picks in the first round of the draft from 15 minutes to 10 minutes. Time between picks in the second round will go from 10 minutes to seven. The league also moved the starting time of the draft from noon ET to 3 p.m. ET. The first day of the draft will now consist of two rounds instead of three.
moving it to 3pm just defeated the purpose of shortening the amount between rounds. stupid
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 23, 2007, 02:28:48 PM
moving it to 3pm just defeated the purpose of shortening the amount between rounds. stupid
Not if you also factor in moving the 3rd round to day 2.
I like the fact that they're shortening the first two rounds. 12 hour 1st rounds are ridiculous especially when teams have had 6 months to prepare.
The draft will also be in Munich.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 23, 2007, 02:28:48 PM
moving it to 3pm just defeated the purpose of shortening the amount between rounds. stupid
i would think the purpose of it was to get more popular parts of the draft at more viewer friendly times
Quote from: Wingspan on October 23, 2007, 02:49:05 PM
The draft will also be in Munich.
Is David Hasslehoff going to fill in for the commish? Cause that would be super.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 23, 2007, 08:30:23 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on October 23, 2007, 02:49:05 PM
The draft will also be in Munich.
Is David Hasslehoff going to fill in for the commish? Cause that would be super.
Jump in his car! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgX-hiQdfFw)
He's hooked on a feeling! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8)
Falcons released DT Grady Jackson.
Jackson, who is likely pushing 400 pounds and sued the team in the offseason, had been starting for the Falcons. His release is a sign that the team has started evaluating players for the future. Rookie Trey Lewis will take Jackson's spot.
He was second on the team in tackles behind John Abraham.
Jerome McDougle can sympath...oh, right.
NFL's Goodell blasts Comcast
The commissioner said the cable company was depriving fans of the NFL Network by forcing them to pay extra for it.
By Ashley Fox
Joined by Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell blasted Comcast Corp. for putting the league's television network on a paid tier in its cable package.
Goodell was not happy that Comcast cost the league, in the NFL's estimate, nearly eight million homes in viewership.
"We have one cable operator close to here, which has taken us from nine million homes to one million homes, and that's a significant difference," Goodell said after a day of league meetings at a Center City hotel. "They have the right to put us in nine million homes. It's not a matter of negotiation. It's just a decision they made.
"We're confident the consumers want to see it."
Goodell did not point the finger only at Comcast. The league has had issues with Time Warner Cable, which will not carry the NFL Network.
"There are very little talks that are going on with Comcast right now," Goodell said. "We've had some discussions with Time Warner recently. Right now, we don't see this is going to get resolved, and that's a concern for us. . . . We have a very compelling product outside of our games. We think that the production quality and the content that we have on the NFL Network on a year-round basis is in great demand, and the consumers want it. That is the issue that we're having with our cable operators."
The NFL Network was launched in November 2003. Last month, the NFL complained to the Federal Communications Commission, claiming that Comcast puts its affiliated channels on its basic or digital basic tiers, while the NFL Network is available only on a sports tier for an additional fee.
Darcy Rudnay, senior vice president of corporate communications at Comcast, said the network was included on a digital tier with about nine million customers before this summer. She said it was moved to a sports tier that costs extra because of a significant increase in costs.
"The NFL increased the costs [for carrying] eight out-of-market games significantly," Rudnay said. "A huge amount of people don't want to pay for these out-of-market games, especially for viewers in April or May who don't want to watch repeat programs. That's the issue."
Goodell is all about the fans.
all those fans are named Benjamin.
he suspended Comcast for 10 games
QuoteThey need to cut all 53 of us. Nobody is playing the way they should be playing right now, obviously. I mean, we're 1-6. To sit there and single out Grady is just asinine. It's ridiculous.
--D'Angelo Hall
It's asinine! It's ridiculous!! It's, it's REDUNDANT!
Hahaha. D'Angelo is definitely trying to talk his way out of town.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3077313
I like Roger
Moneylover
copycat
watched that shtein over and over....
Comcast wants Sunday Ticket so they can run DirecTV out of business, since they don't have it, their response is to dick the NFL over in this regard. Since NFL Network has 3-4 games a year that mean something, nobody is going to make a storm over missing them. Pissing match resumes.
The one and only reason Comcast moved the NFL Network to the sports tier is because they have to pay the NFL 55 cents/month for every Comcast subscriber who has access to the network, per contract. Most of the people with the digital package that formerly contained the network weren't interested in the NFL Network, so Comcast was paying an assload of money to the league for people who weren't even watching the channel.
Many fewer people have that otherwise-zesty sports tier, and more of us are likely to actually watch the NFL Network than digital subscribers. Although a lame deal for NFL Network watchers such as myself, Comcast's decision made business sense.
Goodell's complaining is the right business move for the NFL, also. If he expects the situation to change though, he'll either have to renegotiate the NFL Network deal with Comcast, or expand the war by concretely threatening Comcast in another area.
There's nothing else he can do. Can't take away CBS, NBC, Fox or ESPN. So people will still be able to see 95% of the games. This again is a pissing match over silly issues. Comcast would take the expensive deal for NFL Network if they had Sunday Ticket. They've wanted Sunday Ticket for years and the NFL hasn't budged from their exclusive contract with DirecTV.
almost nobody cares about the few wack games that the nfln carries each year...the only fans that care are the ones that live in the city thats playing and in those cases the game is on local tv anyway....the people that do care will go to a bar and watch
the rest of the nfln is unmitigated garbage and shouldnt even be a channel
this is a non issue to everyone except the nfl
Stay Puft to announce his retirement today (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 25, 2007, 11:39:47 AM
Stay Puft to announce his retirement today (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx)
Damn the cheap Eagles FO! They should SINE him!! :boom
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 25, 2007, 11:39:47 AM
Stay Puft to announce his retirement today (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx)
It's buried now so...
QuoteCorey Simon-DL- Titans Oct. 25 - 11:14 am et
Titans DL Corey Simon has told the team that he plans to retire and will make a formal announcement on Thursday.
The former Pro Bowler has only played in four games with the Titans this season and is credited with one tackle. Simon was previously with the Eagles and Colts, who released him in August after placing him on the non-football illness/injury list in 2006.
What the farg happened to that guy?
He got by on strength and athleticism at first. Then, he started to get fat and lazy, the injuries piled up, and he became completely useless.
SI's Top 10 Cities in a Sports Slump (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0710/cities.sports.slump/content.10.html) #1, Philly. Los Angeles at 8 is a joke.
Milwaukee isn't a 4 sport city, but Buffalo was in there so... Nothing says futility like Brew crew & da Bucks. LA * Ny in there is ridiculous.
how can atlanta be 2 when they have 35 people in that town who root for their teams.
so true...when they come out with these things they need to take into account whether the city they play in actually cares whether they win or not
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 25, 2007, 02:40:04 PM
SI's Top 10 Cities in a Sports Slump (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0710/cities.sports.slump/content.10.html) #1, Philly. Los Angeles at 8 is a joke.
We're #1 Woooooohoooooooo! When's the farging parade?!!?!
the only 3 on the list should be philly, cleveland and buffalo
minnesota, seattle and cinci dont really count because they are in the middle of nowhere and their teams are a. boring and b. have no national appeal. plus cinci has 2 sports.
nyc, la, atlanta, dc are a joke. new york is a cestpool. farg them. as stated, nobody gives a shtein about atlanta teams in atlanta. same goes for every la team except for the lakers, who are only popular because they are hollywoods team. the people who actually like the team (all 5 of them) cant go to the games because theyre too expensive. no one in la cares about baseball or hockey and everyone else there is an east coast transplant. dc is an even bigger joke. nobody in dc gives a farg about the caps or wiz. they are all on the skins jock and a bunch of racists to begin with. so who cares, they can have a tainted superbowl title during the next strike.
houston deserves a minor shout. won nba titles 12 years ago only because jordan was kicked out of the nba for gambling, lost their football team to farging kkk hot stop tennessee, and the astros have been losing in excruciating fashion since the late 60's. and they deserve props for not having a hockey team. its texas, god damnit.
Time changes for week 11 (November 18):
Giants/Lions moves to 1PM
Steelers/Jets moves to 4:05PM
taterskins/Cowboys moves to 4:15PM and becomes the national game
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 25, 2007, 08:59:21 PM
Time changes for week 11 (November 18):
Giants/Lions moves to 1PM
Steelers/Jets moves to 4:05PM
taterskins/Cowboys moves to 4:15PM and becomes the national game
eagles/vikes replaced by High School game of the week? JV game of the week that is.
Quote from: MDS on October 25, 2007, 07:38:31 PMno one in la cares about baseball
You're right, no one in L.A. cares about baseball (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/laatte.shtml)
Seems like no one gives a shtein about the Phillies (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/philattn.shtml)
Quote from: hbionic on October 27, 2007, 06:26:35 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 25, 2007, 07:38:31 PMno one in la cares about baseball
You're right, no one in L.A. cares about baseball (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/laatte.shtml)
Seems like no one gives a shtein about the Phillies (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/philattn.shtml)
I just have to say three things:
1. Dodger Stadium capacity is 56,000 (attendance percentage was 85%); Citizens Bank Park is 43,647 (attendance percentage was 88%).
2. Los Angeles has a population of 3.8 million; Philadelphia's is about 1.5 million.
3. It's obvious that they don't count the Dodgers' attendance in the 1st, 2nd, 8th or 9th innings, or it would be be cut in half. ;)
Los Angeles has more than 3.5 million people living there. Just in L.A. County alone there's 9,948,081 people as of the 2006 census.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06037.html
lets be real plastic city doesnt care about sports period
and yes that includes the lakers
in 01 the lakers parade attracted 500k people
in 1975 the flyers parade got over two million
Jonathan Vilma done for the season (http://jonathan%20vilma%20done%20for%20the%20season)
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 27, 2007, 10:17:35 AM
lets be real plastic city doesnt care about sports period
and yes that includes the lakers
in 01 the lakers parade attracted 500k people
in 1975 the flyers parade got over two million
exactly. sports teams need to be there because its the 2nd biggest market and a lot of people want to go the games. but its all transplants, hollywood schmucks and mexicans. and they already have their teams, view sports as a "thing to do (i.e. getting to dodgers games in the 3rd, calling everyone to say hi, then leaving in the 7th) or are mexican.
I've been to the Forum for both Flyers/Kings games and Lakers/Sixers games as well as Chavez Ravine for Dodgers/Phils games. LA fans are pathetic.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 27, 2007, 11:26:12 PM
I've been to the Forum for both Flyers/Kings games and Lakers/Sixers games as well as Chavez Ravine for Dodgers/Phils games. LA fans are pathetic. Or are Mexican.
Fixed.
QuoteThe Patriots (8-0) have scored at least 34 points in each game and have won each by 17 points or more. They've outscored opponents by an average of 41.3 to 15.9.
farging sick.
Vrabel was unfargingbelievable yesterday.
He's credited with 11 solo tackles and two assists, he had 3 sacks--on each of which he forced a fumble--and he caught his seventh NFL reception for his seventh NFL touchdown.
As if dominating defense and automatic red zone TDs weren't enough, he stood out on special teams too: he secured a 4th quarter onside kick attempt.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 29, 2007, 03:21:46 PM
Vrabel was unfargingbelievable yesterday.
He's credited with 11 solo tackles and two assists, he had 3 sacks--on each of which he forced a fumble--and he caught his seventh NFL reception for his seventh NFL touchdown.
As if dominating defense and automatic red zone TDs weren't enough, he stood out on special teams too: he secured a 4th quarter onside kick attempt.
SunMo started him as an IDP in the CFFL AFC yesterday. 32 farging points from a LB. Noice. Munson's a fag.
A kid that graduated from my High School is on the pro bowl ballet as the Jags special teamer. Nice. :yay
Quote from: PPinDC on October 29, 2007, 03:32:30 PM
SunMo started him as an IDP in the CFFL AFC yesterday. 32 farging points from a LB. Noice. Munson's a fag.
matty did, not me
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2007, 03:53:40 PM
Quote from: PPinDC on October 29, 2007, 03:32:30 PM
SunMo started him as an IDP in the CFFL AFC yesterday. 32 farging points from a LB. Noice. Munson's a fag.
matty did, not me
How dare you question me in front of people? farg you Mr. High-n-mighty.
i didn't mean it....please don't get the belt
Unfortunately, Britney Spears new lover, Romo, got his payday. Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3085827)
Through 8 weeks, the Patriots have scored over 100 points more than any other team in the NFL.
There are still 4 teams that have not scored 100 points the whole season.
i heard this yesterday and its just unreal
the patriots have scored more pts this year than 17 teams scored all of last year
They are only 54 points behind what they scored all of last year.
Marcus Stroud suspended 4 games for steroids
Jon Kitna pays "tribute" to DL coach by dressing in naked costume; his wife dressed up as the drive-thru girl at Wendy's (http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=7427)
article (http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2007/10/all_about_kitnas_questionable.html)
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 27, 2007, 07:54:01 AM
Quote from: hbionic on October 27, 2007, 06:26:35 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 25, 2007, 07:38:31 PMno one in la cares about baseball
You're right, no one in L.A. cares about baseball (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/laatte.shtml)
Seems like no one gives a shtein about the Phillies (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/philattn.shtml)
I just have to say three things:
1. Dodger Stadium capacity is 56,000 (attendance percentage was 85%); Citizens Bank Park is 43,647 (attendance percentage was 88%).
2. Los Angeles has a population of 3.8 million; Philadelphia's is about 1.5 million.
3. It's obvious that they don't count the Dodgers' attendance in the 1st, 2nd, 8th or 9th innings, or it would be be cut in half. ;)
Ok, CITIZEN'S BANK PARK.
How long did the Phillies play at the 56,371 seat Veteran's Stadium? What's the excuse there?
L.A.'s population wasn't always at 3.6 million. We also have two baseball teams. Also, the fact that the philadelphia fans are 'better and more loyal', why weren't they filling up the seats back then? 1.5 million philly fans should equal 3.6 million L.A. fans according to everyone here. So don't bring stats into it. The fact is that Philly fans are more prone to not support their teams during losing seasons than L.A. fans.
Stop getting all PG on me!
The bottom line is that baseball sucks ass.
Jon Kitna's halloween costume > major league baseball
Quote from: hbionic on October 31, 2007, 03:20:03 PM
Ok, CITIZEN'S BANK PARK.
How long did the Phillies play at the 56,371 seat Veteran's Stadium? What's the excuse there?
L.A.'s population wasn't always at 3.6 million. We also have two baseball teams. Also, the fact that the philadelphia fans are 'better and more loyal', why weren't they filling up the seats back then? 1.5 million philly fans should equal 3.6 million L.A. fans according to everyone here. So don't bring stats into it. The fact is that Philly fans are more prone to not support their teams during losing seasons than L.A. fans.
Stop getting all PG on me!
Got your panties in a twist, sweetheart?
Los Angeles is twice the population of Philadelphia. Anaheim isn't counted in that population. Orange county itself has nearly 3 million people - more than the city-county of Philadelphia.
You're proud because a population advantage of nearly seven-fold for Los Angeles County (just shy of 10 million) to the city-county of Philadelphia (1.44 million) gave your team a net advantage of 700,000 paid attendees, most of who watched about six innings of baseball.
Woo-hah! Those Dodger Dogs are something!
Stop talking about baseball. Fruits.
Rod Smith done for the season (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3090554) (and maybe forever).
He's old.
I think Mike P is all set to drop Keenan McCardell to pick up Smith.
lol @ oakland
http://the506.com/nflmaps/2007-09-CBS2.html
Blackout. Nice.
It's even worse for the Cleveland fans.
There are tickets available in almost every price category in Oakland for that game. I did a search and found tickets literally at the 50 yard-line in the club section for $150/ticket.
Pitiful.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 02, 2007, 12:25:50 PM
There are tickets available in almost every price category in Oakland for that game. I did a search and found tickets literally at the 50 yard-line in the club section for $150/ticket.
Pitiful.
Get three tickets. I'll see you and paco there!
Browns fans have no way of watching the game unless they have Sunday Ticket. At least it could be on in Houston if their game ends early.
30 million people expected to watch the game, by the way.
Browns fans have no way of watching the game unless they have Sunday Ticket. At least it could be on in Houston if their game ends early.
i know youre still many years away from being of age but there are these bars that show sporting events called sports bars
Said bars have to have Sunday Ticket to get the games, though.
they may be out there somewhere but i personally dont know a single bar anywhere that promotes itself as a sports bar and doesnt have the ticket
then again i dont frequent red states
From ESPN:
QuoteIndianapolis Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison has been told his knee pain is likely to persist through the remainder of the season and perhaps for the rest of his career, a source said Friday.
Specialists who have examined Harrison do not view surgery as a viable option because there is no guarantee of success and would require six months of rehabilitation.
Sammy Morris IR'ed (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3092256)
Asked whether he believes the Colts should be an underdog, Peyton Manning says he thinks it should be a "pick-'em" game.
(http://www.profootballtalk.com/PickEm.jpg)
First flex game announced for 11/18: Patriots/Bills (Chicago/Seattle moves up to 4:15)
That's 3 primetime games in a row for New England
Why not? Everyone makes money, and that's the point.
Waaaaaahhhh (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3097057)
QuoteShula: Spygate would diminish a perfect Pats season
ESPN.com news services
Don Shula likes the Patriots' chances of going undefeated, but the Bill Belichick-inspired spying scandal has clouded Shula's thinking when comparing New England with his unbeaten 1972 Dolphins team.
"The Spygate thing has diminished what they've accomplished," Shula said in an interview with the New York Daily News. "You would hate to have that attached to your accomplishments. They've got it."
Belichick was fined $500,000 and the Patriots were fined $250,000 and lost a first-round draft pick for videotaping the Jets' opposing sideline during the teams' season-opening game.
"That tells you the seriousness or significance of what they found," Shula said, according to the Daily News. "I guess you got the same thing as putting an asterisk by Barry Bonds' home run record.
"I guess it will be noted that the Patriots were fined and a No. 1 draft choice was taken away during that year of accomplishment. The sad thing is Tom Brady looks so good, it doesn't look like he needs any help."
The way the Patriots have been playing, Shula and the '72 Dolphins might find themselves answering more questions than in past years about whether their record will stand. New England improved to 9-0 on Sunday by beating the previously unbeaten Colts (7-1) in Indianapolis.
There have been serious runs made at the Dolphins' record before. The 1985 Bears started 12-0, then lost on a Monday night to a Dolphins team coached by Shula. The 1991 taterskins started 11-0 and the 1998 Broncos and 2005 Colts opened 13-0 before losing. Although members of the '72 Dolphins have become known for sipping champagne after the last unbeaten team falls by the wayside each season, Shula says stories of that annual celebration "have been blown out of proportion."
"You guys put forth the myth that we are pathetic losers down here clicking champagne glasses and clinging desperately to a record set 35 years ago," former Dolphins tight end Jim Mandich told the Daily News. "Somehow we've been portrayed as being evil. We don't ever blow our own horn. It's a great record, but the record doesn't get beaten.
"The Patriots have assembled a powerhouse of a team. They are a classy bunch of guys and play ball the right way. If they want to join the unbeaten club, come on aboard."
if shula tries hard enough he can make belichek look like a good guy
Is it just me or are people getting way out of hand with wanting to throw asterisks on everything?
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 06, 2007, 06:10:35 PM
*Is it just me or are people getting way out of hand with wanting to throw asterisks on everything?
*minority poster
The asterisk comes
afterwards, dipshtein.
There are reports out there (One from CBSSportsline.com) that Larry Johnson is out for the season.
QuoteLarry Johnson, RB KC
News: According to a report from the TV station KDVR in Denver, Chiefs RB Larry Johnson is out for the season. The story said that a source within the Chiefs organization with direct knowledge of the situation has confirmed the injury. Johnson had suffered a mid-foot sprain in the fourth quarter of last Sunday's 33-22 loss to the Packers. However, the TV station has reported that Johnson has a broken bone in his foot. Kansas City coach Herm Edwards said Tuesday that Johnson would be highly questionable for Sunday's game against the Broncos, but Edwards declined to speculate on how long Johnson might be out, saying he did not have enough information.
Analysis: If the report is accurate, this would be terrible news for Johnson owners. Stay tuned to CBSSports.com for more information, but if you haven't done so already, put in your bid for Priest Holmes or even Kolby Smith. For now, don't plan on having Johnson available for Week 10 against Denver. This does not sound good.
who cares about that shtein...the real important news is here:
QuoteVikings | Team signs Detmer
Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:23:16 -0800
The Minnesota Vikings announced they have signed free-agent QB Koy Detmer (Eagles) Tuesday, Nov. 6. Terms of the deal were not disclosed
The return of neck beard. Sweet! :yay
Neckbeard is one word. Dummy.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 06, 2007, 06:10:35 PM
Is it just me or are people getting way out of hand with wanting to throw asterisks on everything?
I agree*.
* Denotes that I don't really agree.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 06, 2007, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 06, 2007, 06:10:35 PM
Is it just me or are people getting way out of hand with wanting to throw asterisks on everything?
I agree*.
* Denotes that I don't really agree.
I chuckled. Jesus farg man, you appear to be learning. Or I'm dumbing. One or the other.
Go me for picking up Priest Holmes in fantasy. Now the question is do I start him over Jesse Chatman?
That is the question.
Holmes is playing against a horrible run defense this week (Denver), but Herm Edwards has been making noise about platooning him with Kolby Smith.
Chatman is also playing against a worse-than-mediocre run defense (Buffalo) but is much more likely to get 15+ carries.
I'd go with Chatman.
Exactly. Holmes hasn't played in 2 years because of a neck injury. Does anyone really expect him to carry the ball 20+ times a game now? Or ever again?
Childress signs Neckbeard (http://www.startribune.com/blogs/vikings/)
Oh.My.God. And I thought challenging the call to begin the second half of the Vikes-Eagles game was the outer limit of stupidity. Well, at least the Reid disciples are dumber than the Master.
nfl fan value experience
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/11/01/fvi.intro/index.html?eref=T1
eagles #6
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/29/fvi.eagles/
racists #28
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/29/fvi.taterskins/
Some great quotes in both of those links.
Do "you" mean that "every other" word in the "story" is in "quotes"?
I "was" kind of wond"ering" what that "was" all about"?"
I love the photo of FedEx... no one's in it.
I also like how there's the lightning bolt coming down from the sky too. It's sexy.
Mike & Mike show:
QuoteGreenberg: You were a player in the National Football League for nine years...
Golic: Yep.
Greenberg: And you were clean. You didn't use steroids....
Golic: No, no. I did try steroids. For about six weeks in an offseason. Yeah. When I had blown my shoulder out. I actually didn't do it for six weeks. I did it for a few weeks and stopped because it had kind of a bad effect as I was lifting.
Greenberg: Okay. Let's say for the sake of this discussion you did not....
oops
It wouldn't surprise me if 100% of injured players in the NFL used them to get over their injuries...
looks like childress learned well from banner
what a farging travesty of a move
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835
The Minnesota Vikings have docked wide receiver Troy Williamson one game check for missing last Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers to attend the Monday funeral of his maternal grandmother.
Based on his 2007 salary of $435,000, the action by the Vikings will cost the three-year veteran $25,588. Williamson has 45 days to appeal Minnesota's decision to withhold his pay, and NFL Players Association sources said he will do so.
Coach Brad Childress told Twin Cities-area media following Thursday's practice that the decision was on a "business principle" of the Vikings organization.
"He had a family obligation that he had to see to," Childress said. "We sat down and talked on it before he left. ... He had to do what he had to do. Everybody handles that differently. [Williamson] had to do what his family situation called for."
Holy shtein that's despicable. The NFLPA is going to go ape shtein over that.
Rusty scrap metal standard?
at least williamson caught something.
Just saw this and it made me laugh a little...
(http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Images/coach_evil.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2007, 11:06:54 AM
looks like childress learned well from banner
what a farging travesty of a move
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835
The Minnesota Vikings have docked wide receiver Troy Williamson one game check for missing last Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers to attend the Monday funeral of his maternal grandmother.
Based on his 2007 salary of $435,000, the action by the Vikings will cost the three-year veteran $25,588. Williamson has 45 days to appeal Minnesota's decision to withhold his pay, and NFL Players Association sources said he will do so.
Coach Brad Childress told Twin Cities-area media following Thursday's practice that the decision was on a "business principle" of the Vikings organization.
"He had a family obligation that he had to see to," Childress said. "We sat down and talked on it before he left. ... He had to do what he had to do. Everybody handles that differently. [Williamson] had to do what his family situation called for."
That's farged up. No way they'll get to keep Williamson's money.
That's farging terrible.
On the other hand, rjs, that's farging hilarious.
The Broncos cut Simeon Rice. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3102439) Probably done.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 09, 2007, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2007, 11:06:54 AM
looks like childress learned well from banner
what a farging travesty of a move
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835
The Minnesota Vikings have docked wide receiver Troy Williamson one game check for missing last Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers to attend the Monday funeral of his maternal grandmother.
Based on his 2007 salary of $435,000, the action by the Vikings will cost the three-year veteran $25,588. Williamson has 45 days to appeal Minnesota's decision to withhold his pay, and NFL Players Association sources said he will do so.
Coach Brad Childress told Twin Cities-area media following Thursday's practice that the decision was on a "business principle" of the Vikings organization.
"He had a family obligation that he had to see to," Childress said. "We sat down and talked on it before he left. ... He had to do what he had to do. Everybody handles that differently. [Williamson] had to do what his family situation called for."
That's farged up. No way they'll get to keep Williamson's money.
On the other hand, the season is only 4 months long which means friends and family have the other 8 months out of the year to die. Maybe grandma should have been a little more considerate of people's work schedules rather than being all uppity and kicking the bucket when it was convenient for her. Selfish biatch.
This cements the fact that Brad Childress is a grade A douchebag.
I was thinking about this when I heard his comments about Jeff George going to a fantasy camp last week.
Remember when the TO fiasco was going on and one of the things was apparently how Childress would make snide remarks to Owens to set him off? I doubted it then, but now its a 100% lock that Childress was fanning the Owens flames and needling him.
Childress always reminded me of someone and I could never put my finger on it. Then I saw an episode of Simon and Simon at like 4am this morning and it came to me what I was thinking of.
Childress:
(http://getsbybuckner.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/lg.jpg)
Gerald McRaney (aka Rick Simon and Major Dad):
(http://www.go-star.com/antiquing/mcraneys4.gif)
ha
I would take Childress over Reid 100 times out of 100 as the coach of the Eagles right now.
Vikings release Koy Detmer
Quote from: rjs246 on November 10, 2007, 12:34:13 PM
I would take Childress over Reid 100 times out of 100 as the coach of the Eagles right now.
I would take reese, munson or king cole over Reid 100 x out of 50.
Would never happen in the Eagles organization:
Vikings, Childress change minds - agree to give Williamson his money (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3103651)
I just wanted to point out that Vince Young really is the worst quarterback ever.
Travis Henry revealed Thursday that he has a partially torn PCL, but still hopes to play against the Titans on Monday night.Henry was limited on Thursday and is not expected to practice Friday. "I feel like I can play," he said. Coach Mike Shanahan wasn't so sure. Even if Henry is active, it's almost certain that he'll be limited against Tennessee.
Quote
SHAWNE WITHOUT "SUPPLEMENTS" IS CLEARLY A DIFFERENT GUY
Last week, MDS noted that Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman, who notched 17 sacks in only twelve games a year ago, believes that he's having his best season, even though he has chalked up 5.5 sacks through nine games in 2007.
On Sunday, Merriman had one tackle and no sacks, so he's stuck at 5.5 through ten games.
And our own Taco Bill has tracked down some photographic evidence that demonstrates the difference in Merriman of today, and of yesterday. Have a look.
These photos were not altered or doctored in any way by Taco Bill. According to ViewImages.com, the top photo was taken on May 5, 2005. The bottom photo was snapped on May 30, 2007. (To confirm, go to ViewImages.com, search "Shawne Merriman," and compare the head shot on page 7 to the head shot on page 20.)
Merriman played in only 12 games last season because he was suspended for four games for violation of the league's policy on anabolic steroids and related substances. He claimed that a supplement he was taking had been spiked with a steroid, and he made some noise at the time about suing the supplemental manufacturer. But, to date, it hasn't happened.
Much of the "real" media believed Merriman, culminating in the questionable (in our opinion) decision of the NFL to disclose during draft weekend 2007 numbers that Merriman had passed 19 of 20 drug tests imposed by the NFL.
Look, we're not saying that Merriman intentionally or knowingly took steroids. But there's a difference this year in his play, and there's clearly a difference in his appearance.
(http://profootballtalk.com/MerrimanBeforeAfter.jpg)
Here's a clip of Maurice Jones-Drew absolutely destroying him yesterday too btw. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=NZ3TdzGnBuw)
Bwahahahaha.
roids give you unibrow?
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 19, 2007, 01:58:30 PM
roids give you unibrow?
Cechmanek was on Roids? That explains him going crazy
Same with Bert flipping out on Ernie
Some perspective on the Patriots getting the 49ers draft pick:
The Patriots have scored 46 TDs, or 4.6 per game.
The 49ers have scored 10 TDs, or 1 per game.
Who needs perspective? The Pats lost a first round draft pick, are going to win the superbowl and somehow are still going to get the second overall pick. farging Patriots. farg.
awful story
(ex eagle) Siran Stacy, former star RB for Alabama, was driving a car that was involved in an accident in which his wife and FOUR of his children were killed.
edit: reports are now that siran is died too
http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071120/APN/711200664&template=apart
doesn't say anything about Srian being dead though
sounds like the other driver was a DD
It sucks to be his 5th kid right about now.
Quote from: SunMo on November 20, 2007, 11:40:26 AM
http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071120/APN/711200664&template=apart
doesn't say anything about Srian being dead though
sounds like the other driver was a DD
he was on life support and they pulled the plug...he is died too probably hasnt been officially released tho
Is this a bad time to point out that this is the wrong thread? Stacy never played in the NFL.
picture of the van...
(http://www.nbc13.com/media/VTM/2007/11/20/0002.Image.NULL,NULL.300,198,2,NULL,NULL.MGSpooler.img)
Honda Odyssey? Sweet.
now i read that he is indeed alive and in stable condition nonetheless...if true good for that last girl
The rumor going around is that Priest Holmes will announce his retirement as early as today.
Giants Stadium vows to end Breast-Gate (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21901716/) Might need to get up to a Jets game soon
I dont think I have ever met a Jet fan that I actually wanted to see their breasts
the video on there has some pretty decent talent from what i can tell
2007 gets even better for Jeff Garcia (http://www.tampabays10.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=68252&s=e&s=e)
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2007, 11:19:00 PM
2007 gets even better for Jeff Garcia (http://www.tampabays10.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=68252&s=e&s=e)
So who's the father?
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 23, 2007, 12:53:28 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 22, 2007, 11:19:00 PM
2007 gets even better for Jeff Garcia (http://www.tampabays10.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=68252&s=e&s=e)
So who's the father?
Carmella?
whos side is everyone on in the cable companies vs nfl battle
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/22/AR2007112201263.html
altho its like watching two new york teams play..impossible to root for anyone yet at least someone you hate is gonna lose...im on cables side here...seems to me that the nfl is trying to get people to care about a channel that a complete waste of air time by putting a few good games on it...in other words they have about 6 hrs of must see programming a year yet want everyone to carry it as tho its espn or something
I'm on beer's side.
I think the NFL is being very shortsighted and arrogant. People love the NFL, but not so much that they'll pay a premium on top of what they're already paying just to get it. People will just write off the games that the NFL puts on NFLN as "I'll read about it tomorrow." Higher price = lower demand, even for the NFL.
i paid the extra, but it's for an entire sports tier, with extra Fox Sports Net channels that i can get extra college football and basketball. even with that im only paying an extra 1.99 a month. there is also the NHL network, which is pretty worthless except for the classic NHL they play.
but if they want to compete they need to improve their product, Bryant Gumbel is a joke of a play by play guy, he's simply awful
I don't think the NFL wants the customer to get all those other channels tho. They certainly aren't marketing the "add us to your premium sports package to make our product seem less expensive" angle to the cable companies.
Wait, the NFL is acting arrogant and self-serving?
No wai.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 23, 2007, 09:25:05 AM
I think the NFL is being very shortsighted and arrogant. People love the NFL, but not so much that they'll pay a premium on top of what they're already paying just to get it. People will just write off the games that the NFL puts on NFLN as "I'll read about it tomorrow." Higher price = lower demand, even for the NFL.
This is exactly how I feel. The only regret I'll have is Thursday when the Packers play the Cowboys. And that's only because I'll have to watch it online.
Quote from: SunMo on November 23, 2007, 09:32:09 AM
i paid the extra, but it's for an entire sports tier, with extra Fox Sports Net channels that i can get extra college football and basketball. even with that im only paying an extra 1.99 a month. there is also the NHL network, which is pretty worthless except for the classic NHL they play.
but if they want to compete they need to improve their product, Bryant Gumbel is a joke of a play by play guy, he's simply awful
how much more football and basketball do you get on the fox channels...csn down here carries a lot of fox cfb and cbb games...especially pac ten games...id pay 1.99 extra for a bunch of college games but im wondering if i dont get a lot of it already
CSN Philly carries a few FSN games too, so that's the same. The FOX channels on the sports tier show awesome games like Montana/Montana State and Kent/Akron.
actually, that's not true, they show a lot of pac 10 games
Last year there was maybe 1 game NFL Network had that was good. This year they lucked into getting 2 monster matchups. The whole money fight is over Comcast not getting Sunday Ticket. They've been trying for years to get it and are shoving it to the NFL because of the exclusive rights DirecTV has with the Ticket. Comcast getting the Ticket would essentially eliminate DirecTV from the landscape and Comcast would have even more of monopoly.
The Palm Beach Post reports that Ricky Williams is out for the season with a torn chest muscle.
Source: Palm Beach Post
There will be a candle vigil outside of Dolphin Stadium tonight at 7pm. All are welcome.
Quote from: reese125 on November 27, 2007, 03:03:50 PM
The Palm Beach Post reports that Ricky Williams is out for the season with a torn chest muscle.
Source: Palm Beach Post
There will be a candle vigil outside of Dolphin Stadium tonight at 7pm. All are welcome.
Quote from: PPinDC on November 27, 2007, 03:02:38 PM
RICKY DONE FOR SEASON
The Ricky Williams comeback tour lasted one game and six carries.
Tim Graham of the Palm Beach Post reports that Williams' season is over after he suffered a torn chest muscle in Monday night's loss to the Steelers. The injury will require about four months to fully recover, Graham reports.
The injury took place in the second quarter, when Williams was hit, fumbled and fell to the ground and was then stepped on by Steelers linebacker Lawrence Timmons. It was Williams' first game in almost two years, after he was suspended for violations of the league's substance-abuse policy.
"It's just sad," Graham quotes Williams' agent, Leigh Steinberg, saying. "As hard as he's worked. He worked so hard physically to get back into shape and in therapy. He worked so hard for that moment and to have it end this way is sad."
Graham reports that the Dolphins want Williams to rehab the injury at the team's facilities, indicating that they're open to having Williams on the team in 2008.
http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19947.msg564231#msg564231
SCOOPED!
Quote from: reese125 on November 27, 2007, 03:03:50 PM
There will be a candle vigil outside of Dolphin Stadium tonight at 7pm. All are welcome.
Not cool, man.
NE put Rosevelt Colvin on IR and activated Troy Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3130490)
That corksucker Belichick won't even reveal what the injury is.
Quote"It was announced as a foot? Then we'll leave it with that announcement," coach Bill Belichick said Monday, according to the transcript of the news conference released by the team. "Was that what [we] announced? If that's what [we] announced, then we'll stand by that announcement."
To add to the confusion, they activated a guy named Brown from the PUP list, cut another Brown, and signed yet another Brown.
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ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Rams will retire Marshall Faulk's jersey at halftime of a Dec. 20 game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Faulk came to St. Louis in 1999 and helped lead the Rams to a Super Bowl championship that first season and another appearance two years later. He was the NFL's MVP in 2000 and the league's offensive player of the year in 1999, 2000 and 2001.
Faulk announced his retirement in March.
Halftime ceremonies will be led by sportscaster Bob Costas and will feature a video tribute before Faulk's jersey number 28 is retired.
does verizon fios get the nfl network on its basic package
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2007, 10:34:14 AM
does verizon fios get the nfl network on its basic package
I'm pretty sure its on the basic package
im pretty sure everyone should stop beefin and just go to a bar. its not getting resolved, make the best of it.
As always, I get the game.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 29, 2007, 07:43:33 PM
As always, I get the game.
Word. I heard one time: DirecTV > You.
If you're a massive NFL fan living outside of the Philly area, you should have DirecTV. Period.
It sucks for the people in Philly, though. You need CSN to see all the other 3 sports.
Link (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7487952?MSNHPHMA)
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Hey NFL, greed isn't good
PHIL MUSHNICK
New York Post
For all the selective, self-serving laments being sung by the NFL over the absence of this Thursday night's Packers-Cowboys game from broad, national distribution via the NFL Network, this is what you should know:
Had the NFL not created the NFL Network, then tried to create for it a demand by taking games for itself, Packers-Cowboys, on a Sunday afternoon (on Fox) or a Sunday night (on NBC), would have been available in 70 to 100 percent of the nation's 115 million TV households.
But by gifting the game to itself, the NFL has made Packers-Cowboys available to roughly 33 percent of the nation's TV homes.
The NFL is now left to blame those big, bad, arrogant cable systems - Cablevision, Time-Warner, Comcast - for not clearing the NFL Network on expanded basic. Yes, those systems are big, bad and arrogant; they've never cut anyone a break.
But in this case, the NFL was just as big, as bad and as arrogant. It felt that the mere title, the NFL Network, and the self-assignment of eight exclusive game telecasts would make cable clearance a tap-in, and presto! the league had invented for itself another huge source of revenue, even if there was no good reason - beyond greed - to leverage its own games.
The NFL had a near-future vision for itself - its own gravy train TV network. All it had to do was dangle some live games, games that otherwise would have appeared on free, network TV. And now, because the NFL overplayed its hand, preventing two-thirds of the country from seeing NFLN games, the cable giants are the bad guys?
Well, they are bad guys, and when the NFL offers them an ownership stake in the NFL Network everything will be resolved because the cable TV industry always has run on conflicts of interest. That's when cable and the NFL will team up, the NFL Network will be cleared on expanded basic, and suddenly neither partner will care what it might cost those poor cable subscribers who have no interest in football.
But for now the victim of cable - the NFL Network - is just as big and as ugly as the perpetrator.
Many millions more people would have been able to watch, in NFL Week 13, the Packers-Cowboys - and watch it for free, no less - had there been no NFL Network. How does that make cable the only bad guy or even the worse of two bad guys?
What was the NFL network thinking last night. They should never ever let Bryant Gumbell step foot in a booth. Not only did he sound like a grade school girl, he was the worst I have ever seen.
I do like Collingsworth though.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 30, 2007, 08:24:10 AM
If you're a massive NFL fan living outside of the Philly area with an unobstructed view of the southern sky, you should have DirecTV. Period.
That's all I have here is southern sky. Didn't you hear the south is kind of a different country?
New England opens as a 24.5-point favorite vs the Jets, O/U 51
I think we might see the first 28-point favorite in two weeks...
Week 16 changes:
Original NBC game: Tampa Bay @ San Francisco
New NBC game: Washington @ Minnesota
TB/SF moves to 4:05
Miami @ New England moves to 4:15 and becomes the national game
Detroit/Green Bay will probably be taken in week 17.
ESPNews is reporting that Bobby Petrino is quitting the Falcons to become the head coach at Arkansas
nothing says strong willed like quitting during your first year where things don't go your way
Ha. The Falcons are farged. Maybe we can trade them Andy Reid for their first round draft pick. He's good at rebuilding, right? RIGHT?!
Quote from: SunMo on December 11, 2007, 06:19:04 PMnothing says strong willed like quitting during your first year where things don't go your way
Can anyone really blame him for bailing on that train wreck of a team/town?
Quote from: Diomedes on December 11, 2007, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: SunMo on December 11, 2007, 06:19:04 PMnothing says strong willed like quitting during your first year where things don't go your way
Can anyone really blame him for bailing on that train wreck of a team/town?
probably not....if he wasnt moving to arkansas
nick saban gave up on farging miami for the backwoods of alabama. that is much worse of a trade off.
Quote from: MDS on December 11, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
nick saban gave up on farging miami for the backwoods of alabama. that is much worse of a trade off.
He gave up on Miami for $32 million guaranteed.
I'd rather live in Arkansas than Georgia.
from ESPN's current Petrino article:
QuotePetrino and Arkansas do not have a deal, the sources told ESPN, but once one is in place, Petrino is expected to be paid around $3 million a year....Petrino had a five-year, $24 million contract with the Falcons -- NFL sources said there is no buyout in the deal -- so he will be taking a pay cut to coach the Razorbacks.
Petrino to Blank: do not want!!
QuoteThe Falcons are assured of the 32nd losing season in their 42-year history. Petrino's resignation is another jarring blow to a team that dealt with Vick's legal troubles since the first day of training camp, when a plane flew overhead pulling a sign that said: "New Team Name? Dog Killers?"
Ha. Somehow I missed that.
what a joke. these college coaches need to stick to college if they cant handle 1 bad season.
seriously this guy could have rebuilt by drafting his own college QB in the 08 draft.
But I'd rather live in Buffalo than either of those two redneck hells.
Atlanta is a great city. Buffalo is a hole.
Even though I'd tend to agree with you...
:flipoff
ex eagles DC emmitt thomas got named interim falcons head coach
DeAngelo Hall, Roddy White and other Falcons face possible fines of $10,000 after sending "personal messages" to former teammate Michael Vick.
Hall painted Vick's number and initials on his eye black sticker and carried a poster of Vick onto the field to begin Monday night's game. Roddy White wore a t-shirt that read "Free Mike Vick" and flashed it after scoring a touchdown.
Not to mention half the stadium had them on. So sad being a celebrity can brainwash people
DeAngelo Hall is a douchebag
Is it any wonder that Petrino quit on those iceholes?
Good God...
god forbid they support a friend
i said the same thing on another board and got crucified...you have to bail on friends when they are in trouble
when your friend is a convicted dog killer, maybe you should support him discreetly if you don't want to be reviled for your allegiance?
Quote from: Diomedes on December 12, 2007, 05:56:41 PM
when your friend is a convicted dog killer, maybe you should support him discreetly if you don't want to be reviled for your allegiance?
Yeah, that.
Arthur Blank really ripped into Bobby Petrino in his press conference today. It's on nfl.com.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 12, 2007, 05:56:41 PM
when your friend is a convicted dog killer, maybe you should support him discreetly if you don't want to be reviled for your allegiance?
for all the hate vick has gotten...much of it ridiculously over the top...perhaps they are doing it to piss off people such as yourself and want to throw their support of him in the faces of the people who spent the better part of their lives for the last six months crucifying mike vick and portraying him as the second coming of hitler himself
vick is a despicable idiot but in many peoples minds (including people that are disgusted by what he did and are not friends of his) paid a gigantic price...perhaps a price greater than the crime he committed...and these are legal analysts op ed writers sports talk show host...people who have no allegiance to him at all...so what do you expect his close friends to do...i dont see anything wrong with them supporting him...in fact i respect it and i like it in the sense that they are giving a big middle finger to holier than thou goodell and the nfl front office...
Free convicted felons who torture and kill animals for their own sick amusement!
I haven't heard anyone portray him as Hitler. I have heard plenty of people portray him as a dog killer though, a charge which is completely accurate. I have heard people say that he committed barbaric and completely unnecessary crimes -- a charge which is also 100% accurate.
It's not even as if Vick committed a crime that stemmed from a serious drug problem or a domestic problem -- circumstances that do not lessen the seriousness of a crime but are at least understandable. He committed one of the dumbest criminal acts in the history of professional sports. Of course people will talk about it. So what? The "price" of having a damaged reputation is in no way a replacement for serving a full criminal sentence. Suggesting that someone should be "freed" from jail because the press is mean to them, or because they aren't allowed to play a game, or because they lost endorsement deals is moronic. Even if that was what Roddy White was thinking, which I seriously doubt, the message everyone else reads into a "Free Michael Vick" shirt is "I don't think what Michael Vick did deserves jail time". This is why people are criticizing White; it sounds like he is endorsing what Vick plead guilty to.
Maybe Roger Goodell has a right to be a little "holier than thou". He's trying to sell a sport to families across America. Unlike Michael Vick, Roger Goddell never trained, tortured, and murdered animals for his personal amusement. Michael Vick was paid for the positive things he did for the sport. Now he's a giant negative, and Goddell doesn't owe him shtein.
what goodell (and the nfl as a whole) does to the ex nfl players (human beings) is far worse than what vick did to any dog...doesnt mean vick isnt a complete idiot and did a horrible thing but sorry if i dont get upset because a few of his friends are supporting him and at the same time sticking it to the nfl and the media and peta and everyone else who acted as tho what he did was the worst thing in the history of the world
he did the crime and hes doing the time...let it go
Everyone is Hitler! Yay!
except Hitler oddly enough...rather nice guy
Snappy dresser too.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 13, 2007, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2007, 09:00:44 PM
vick is a despicable idiot
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2007, 09:38:36 PM
he did the crime and hes doing the time...let it go
End of discussion.
Missing the point. It WOULD be end of discussion if it weren't for the farging flaming MORONS wearing "FREE MIKE VICK" shtein on their shirts and showing them off during TD celebrations.
I'm just happy to see rich criminal athletes getting jail time for being criminals. The fact that I didn't like Vick in the first place is just icing on the cake. Oh, and he's Hitler incarnate.
You just don't like him because he keeps it real with his old crew. Racist.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2007, 09:38:36 PMwhat goodell (and the nfl as a whole) does to the ex nfl players (human beings) is far worse than what vick did to any dog
For future reference, I completely disagree. Dogs are defenseless, bred to trust and love even those who beat them. Humans can defend themselves, and usually deserve at least some portion of the abuse life deals them.
in short, dogs>people
I have to say that not giving someone the best deal on retirement benefits, or film royalties may weigh just a little under forcing someone to fight to the death or killing someone.
But I guess by even responding to the hyperbole, I've already lost.
His point, which I agree with, is that no matter who did what people are more important than animals. Yes, people are idiots and responsible for their own behavior. And yes, dogs are cute and possibly delicious. But humans run this shtein and dogs don't. Is that an excuse for what Vick did? No. Dog fighting disgusts me and this whole situation makes me angry, but let's not lose track of what's what.
I have less of a problem with the dog fighting aspect of this than I do the deliberate torture and killing of the dogs simply because they didn't perform up to his standards.
It's a thin line, sure, but he crossed it when he started hanging, electrocuting and otherwise treating those animals with deliberate cruelty.
That shtein's evil, pure and simple.
As for his idiotic teammates, who gives a flying farg what they think or what they say? One minute they're decrying Vick's plight and the next they're whining about their former head coach abandoning them and him being a traitor and blah, blah, blah. Apparently in their eyes torturing and killing animals is fine but a coach quitting to take another job should be a crime punishable by death. Talk about having farged up priorities.
Vick = idiot
Roddy White = idiot
Bobby Petrino = idiot who had a flash of common sense and got the hell out of there
All of you = idiots
Quote from: rjs246 on December 13, 2007, 06:45:33 PM
His point, which I agree with, is that no matter who did what people are more important than animals. Yes, people are idiots and responsible for their own behavior. And yes, dogs are cute and possibly delicious. But humans run this shtein and dogs don't. Is that an excuse for what Vick did? No. Dog fighting disgusts me and this whole situation makes me angry, but let's not lose track of what's what.
This bitch would have you taken out if she read that
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Quote from: Diomedes on December 13, 2007, 11:39:46 AM
in short, dogs>people
like i said if one of the byproducts of all this is that peta freaks get pissed off then im IN
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 13, 2007, 10:38:03 AM
Missing the point. It WOULD be end of discussion if it weren't for the farging flaming MORONS wearing "FREE MIKE VICK" shtein on their shirts and showing them off during TD celebrations.
Ok, I'll dispense with the subtlety:
1) It is asinine for someone to "support their boy" when their boy "is a despicable idiot"
2) The fine is completely justified because free speech does not apply at your place of work. If players want to use a national broadcast to forward their personal agendas, they can pay for the time just like anyone else. They are already being compensated (well) for their performance.
1) It is asinine for someone to "support their boy" when their boy "is a despicable idiot"
wow im glad you dont have my back...people make mistakes...people do dumb shtein...real friends dont dip when that happens...you can support the person without supporting the act
man, you know how to troll
Quote from: Diomedes on December 14, 2007, 09:33:43 AM
man, you know how to make sense to the point that people like me feel foolish
thanks
im like forrest gump.....a simpleton with all seeing wisdom
If I have any money left for christmas, I'll print up a free mike vick shirt for you, so you can keep it real with the likes of D'Angelo Hall and his douchebag homies
thanks but i despise mick vick....and deangelo hall...even more than i love you
i just dont hate them because of dogs or t shirts
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
1) It is asinine for someone to "support their boy" when their boy "is a despicable idiot"
wow im glad you dont have my back...people make mistakes...people do dumb shtein...real friends dont dip when that happens...you can support the person without supporting the act
haha. this is some funny shtein right here. real friends dont dip? you dont have to dip--go see him in jail for christs sake, send him a Hallamark, just dont farging make T-shirts and flash them a national TV audience and other black fans because your crying out to the system that its a racial charge---and thats what they were doing
If he killed a man, would they still be supporting him like that with t-shirts--doubt it
I guarantee they would, actually
Quote from: reese125 on December 14, 2007, 10:17:39 AM
just dont farging make T-shirts and flash them a national TV audience and other black fans because your crying out to the system that its a racial charge---and thats what they were doing
how dare them dumb young rich jigaboos dance around on tv like gorillas supportin their homey....ill tell you what i bet they wouldnt do that shtein up here in scranton wilkes barre
I guarantee they wouldn't, actually.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
1) It is asinine for someone to "support their boy" when their boy "is a despicable idiot"
wow im glad you dont have my back...people make mistakes...people do dumb shtein...real friends dont dip when that happens...you can support the person without supporting the act
Supporting the friend in these circumstances means visiting him in the pen, helping out his family and providing general moral support. Not going on national TV and implying that he is somehow being treated unfairly.
Now I could of swore I just......
Supporting the friend in these circumstances means visiting him in the pen, helping out his family and providing general moral support. Not going on national TV and implying that he is somehow being treated unfairly.
youre smarter than that
free _______________ t-shirts arent to be taken literally
theyve been around forever...they are a show of support...can they be ignorant?...sure
but theres a difference bwtn some idiot buying a bootleg free mike vick shirt on market street and a friend of his giving him a shout out in the first game after his incarceration
Quotefree _______________ t-shirts arent to be taken literally
Roger Goodell has $10,000 thats says it does
wow.....Miami is only a 22-pt underdog at New England. That's lower than the Eagles/Pats spread...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3160597
Parcells to be Falcons next president?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 19, 2007, 12:16:38 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3160597
Parcells to be Falcons next president?
Ha! Poor Falcons. The Tuna is going to the Fishies in Miami.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3161733
Great move for the Phins. Would have been equally great for the Falcons but I think Miami is a more desirable team/situation for Parcells. Solid defense in place and if Ronnie Brown comes back strong next year, then they already have a solid rb too. Doesn't leave a lot of pieces for Parcells to piece together which means he can start building depth.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2007, 03:59:21 AM
Solid defense in place and if Ronnie Brown comes back strong next year, then they already have a solid rb too.
They had a solid defense the past few years. This year their defense is horrible, and it's a big part of why they suck so badly this year. They are giving up the second-highest number of points per game, and that generously includes the 3 points they gave up to the Steelers in a freak weather game. They are also generating a pitiful, Eagles-like number of turnovers.
I ain't gonna lie. I seriously feel sorry for the Falcons.
No QB, no HC, no GM. :-D
QuoteDoesn't leave a lot of pieces for Parcells to piece together which means he can start building depth
Oh, theres plenty of pieces.
it damn well wasnt that fact that the defense is young and talented and the QB play looks promising that he took the job
amazing how weather can alter your decision.
Willie Parker's done - broken leg.
They can have Reno Mahe if they promise to take LJ Smith too.
Bill Simmons on the lack of top QB's in today's NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071221)
This is the first Simmons article I've read in a while. Not bad. Here's where the Eagles' trio falls:
QuoteFRIENDS WITH BENEFITS
Marc Bulger, Donovan McNabb, Jon Kitna, Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner (in his current state), Drew Bledsoe (in absentia)
Comments: You'd never want to settle down with them, and you'd constantly disparage them to your friends ... but as soon as they're not around for a week or two, you end up wishing they were around for a drunken 3 a.m. booty call. To my knowledge, nobody has ever married an FWB or won a Super Bowl with them. There's a lesson here.
QuoteTHE GREAT UNKNOWNS
JaMarcus Russell, Kevin Kolb, John Beck, Aaron Rodgers, Brady Quinn
Comments: Seriously, we need ALL of these guys to make it. If I had to make Vegas odds for every possible combination here, I'd go with 35-1 for all five making it; 9-1 for four; 5-1 for three; 5-2 for two; and 1-10 for one. And if you had to rank them in order, it would go 2-1 for Rodgers, 3-1 for Kolb, 4-1 for Russell and Quinn and 15-1 for Beck. The best wager on the board is Kolb -- high-percentage numbers in college, perfect for the West Coast offense and the natural beneficiary for the Ewing Theory Eagles next season after McNabb finally leaves. I wish there was a way to wager on this.
QuoteJUST COMPETENT ENOUGH TO KILL YOU
Chad Pennington, Joey Harrington, A.J. Feeley, Kerry Collins, Jake Plummer (in absentia)
Comments: These are the "looking great for 3½ quarters until they kill you with a pick at the worst possible time" guys, as personified by Feeley's "timing pass" in the Pats-Eagles game this season. They're also the most painful QBs to have on your team because you spend an inordinate amount of time either talking yourself into them or talking yourself out of them.
Speaking of Harrington, I outdid myself with the final paragraph in the Falcons section of my 2007 NFL preview: "I believe in the '07 Falcons, I believe in Petrino ... and ... (gulp) ... I believe that Harrington could be a half-decent quarterback in the perfect situation. I'm even willing to hinge my 2007 Sleeper Pick on it. Stranger things have happened. Yes, stranger things than Joey Harrington leading Michael Vick's old team to the playoffs while Vick watches the whole thing unfold from behind bars."
(Note: If you want to spend your weekend sifting through my archives to find a Simmons prediction that worked out worse than that one, please, break out some egg nog and have some holiday fun at my expense. Not even my Okafor/Howard prediction worked out as dreadfully as that one -- the "I believe in Petrino" part pushed it to another level.)
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 21, 2007, 12:56:22 PMThis is the first Simmons article I've read in a while. Not bad.
Don't worry about it, it's the first decent one in a while.
According to this list, McNabb is the 18th best quarterback in the league.
But a top 5 black one
As if the implosion of the Falcons couldn't get any worse, now DeAngelo Hall is going around saying that he basically hated Petrino and will demand a trade this offseason unless the Falcons get a "players' coach" kind of guy like Playoffs Jr.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3165415
Hall is a collosal douchebag..can't stand that punk.
PFT:
QuoteLEAGUE'S ANTITRUST EXEMPTION COULD BE THREATENED
Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports that the unavailability of the NFL's in-house network could result in an attack on the league's antitrust exemption.
On December 19, Senators Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Arlen Specter (R.-Pa.) sent a letter to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suggesting such an outcome if the December 29 game between the Patriots and the Giants isn't generally available.
"The NFL appears to be moving incrementally closer to limiting distribution of its programming to subscription television," the letter said. "Now that the NFL is adopting strategies to limit distribution of game programming to their own networks, Congress may need to reexamine the need and desirability of their continued exemption from the Nation's antitrust laws."
Earlier in the month, Senator John Kerry (D-Massachusetts) wrote a letter to Goodell urging the league to find a way to make the game available to people throughout his state.
In response, Goodell offered to submit the league's lingering dispute with cable giant Time Warner to arbitration. In response, Time Warner's CEO politely said, "Get bent."
"As I'm sure you are aware, over the years we've been able to successfully reach agreements with hundreds of programming networks without the use of arbitration. We continue to believe that the best way to achieve results is to privately seek a resolution and not attempt to negotiate through the press or elected officials," wrote Time Warner big cheese Glenn Britt.
We suggested a few weeks ago that the NFL should auction the national broadcast rights to the game. If New England is 15-0 come Sunday night, the league could reel in at least $100 million come Monday morning.
A lot more than $100 million could be riding on the outcome of this one for the league. If the game that caps the first 16-0 regular season in league history can't be seen by anyone who wants to see it without going to a sports bar or installing a satellite dish, the league could be in hot water.
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colts reupped sanders
5 yr 37 mil
havent seen the sb yet
shtein.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2007, 04:21:15 PM
colts reupped sanders
5 yr 37 mil
havent seen the sb yet
Ahahaha. There's about 20 dickheads on the EMB who are gonna get roasted over that one.
EMB: "THEY CAN'T AFFORD HIM!"
Me: "Uh, yeah they can. He's going anywhere, imbeciles."
EMB: "LOSER!"
$20M guaranteed
highest-paid safety in the NFL
and it allows Indy to tag Dallas Clark
no surprise there..and even if they hadn't, is there anyone who really thinks the Eagles would have made the winning bid in the Bob Sanders auction?
No doubt they will keep Clark too..
yeah with the amount of money teams have under the cap this year which is the most ever there isnt gonna be shtein in free agency
Yep - the Titans have over forty million in cap room in 2008.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/12/09/week14/4.html
That's insane.
PS: Every team is under except the Femorals. They're 20 million over. Not that the cap actually means anything.
Billick just fired.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 31, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
Billick just fired.
It was 7 seasons ago that the Ravens won a Super Bowl, and despite Billick's reputation as an offensive-minded coach, his teams were only good when the defense was dominant. He sucks.
QuoteAfter washing out of the NFL as a player, Billick decided to try his hand at game shows. The first time, he was a contestant on the game show Match Game (specifically the syndicated Match Game PM) in 1977. He appeared shortly after ending his short professional career as a player and joining his alma mater Redlands (Calif.) High School as a coach. He lost 5-0 causing host Gene Rayburn to quip, "Boy, I hope you signed that contract already. They might think twice after seeing this performance." Panelist Richard Dawson went even further, stating "Failed at football. Failed at Match Game. Where will you go now?".
He also later appeared on the short-lived revival of Jeopardy! in the 1978-79 season and on The Gong Show in 1980.
In the most obvious news of the offseason... (http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp%207560357&nav=menu35_6)
QuoteColts President Bill Polian said that WISH-TV Sportslocker Analyst Dallas Clark will be back next year with the Colts.
Polian told WISH-TV that he is prepared to put the "franchise tag" on Clark if he has to, but the tight end isn't going anywhere and he will be back next season with the Colts.
Brent Celek is both whiter and cheaper!
Even more obvious news:
Peterson wins offensive ROY
per the baltimore sun the ravens top coaching candidates
1. Jason Garrett: Cowboys offensive coordinator. There are rumblings that he is the Ravens' target.
2. Bill Cowher: Former Steelers coach. Landing "The Chin" would make the biggest splash, but he has said he doesn't want to coach in 2008.
3. Rex Ryan: Former Ravens defensive coordinator. There's no question that the players would fight for him.
4. Marty Schottenheimer: Former Browns, Chiefs, taterskins and Chargers coach. The safest bet because of his track record of success.
5. Kirk Ferentz: University of Iowa coach. Has strong link to Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome but has declined other enticing offers to leave.
6. Mike Singletary: 49ers assistant head coach/defense. Considered one of the best motivators in the coaching ranks.
7. Josh McDaniels: Patriots offensive coordinator. Another fast-rising prospect. Age (31) could be a concern.
8. Steve Mariucci: Former 49ers and Lions coach. Like Brian Billick, he would be an articulate voice of the franchise.
9. Jim Caldwell: Colts assistant head coach/quarterbacks. Smart and underrated assistant who has become Tony Dungy's confidant.
10. Jim Schwartz: Titans defensive coordinator. Baltimore native finished second to Mike Nolan for 49ers job in 2005.
Kirk Ferentz should jump on anything he gets at this point. Iowa was one of only 3 Big Ten teams (also powerhouses Northwestern and Minnesota) that did not go to a bowl this year.
If he gets an offer to go to the NFL, he should take it immediately.
Lions fired offensive coordinator Mike Martz and hired line coach Jim Cotello as offensive coordinator. Receivers coach Kippy Brown will be named assistant head coach/offense and passing game coordinator. Martz has already been linked to the offensive coordinator job in San Francisco.
Martz should do well with those top wideouts in SF
QuoteTitans quarterback Vince Young practiced on a limited basis Wednesday but lost one of his favorite targets when tight end Bo Scaife was placed on injured reserve with a lacerated liver.
Ouch.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 02, 2008, 07:56:39 PM
QuoteTitans quarterback Vince Young practiced on a limited basis Wednesday but lost one of his favorite targets when tight end Bo Scaife was placed on injured reserve with a lacerated liver.
Ouch.
This (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3177933) I found crazy:
Quote
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Titans quarterback Vince Young practiced on a limited basis Wednesday but lost one of his favorite targets when tight end Bo Scaife was placed on injured reserve with a lacerated liver.
Scaife won't be available for the playoffs. Tennessee plays at San Diego in the first round Sunday, and Young hopes to start despite a sore right quadriceps.
Bo Scaife
Tight End
Tennessee Titans
Profile
2007 Season Stats Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
46 421 1 9.2 26 166
The team's third-leading receiver with a career-high 46 catches for 421 yards, Scaife was hurt during Tennessee's 16-10 win over Indianapolis on Sunday night. He was trying to catch a high pass from Young when he was hit by Colts safety Matt Giordano in the second quarter.
The ball bounced off Giordano's head, and Titans receiver Justin Gage caught it just before it hit the ground for a 21-yard completion.
The tight end finished the game and returned with the Titans to Nashville. But coach Jeff Fisher said Scaife had a tough night, underwent some tests and was hospitalized on Monday. Scaife was released Wednesday morning but was placed on injured reserve and will need up to six weeks of rest to heal.
"Bo's been a big-play guy for us in his own way," Fisher said. "He's kind of a leader on offense. He's out there every day, gets up after most big hits. This one, he did. He came back and played. It's a difficult situation for Bo. We've got people on the roster that are going to have to step up."
Young said he apologized to Scaife, his college teammate at Texas, for putting him in a position to be injured.
"It hurts a lot because I was one of the guys that got him hurt. That's my brother, friend, everything, all of the above," Young said.
The Titans still have two four-year veterans at tight end in Ben Troupe and Ben Hartsock, who have combined for 17 catches this season. The team also promoted tight end Jamie Petrowski from the practice squad to the active roster and added tight end Leonard Stephens to the practice squad.
Young left the game against Indianapolis with an ailing right quadriceps, an injury that kept him out of an Oct. 21 win at Houston.
Center Kevin Mawae, who has missed the past two games with an injured left calf, sat out practice with right guard Benji Olson, defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth and defensive end Antwan Odom.
Running back Chris Brown (back) did not practice, and LenDale White (knee) was excused for personal reasons.
Wide receiver Roydell Williams, tied for the team lead in catches with 55, hurt his right ankle during practice and had to leave the field. Fisher said he did not know the extent of the injury.
So he took a hit that tore his liver up and still finished the game. That is one tough hombre.
Kerry Collins, speaking on WFAN, said that the Titans kneeled down at the end of the Colts-Titans game because they knew the Colts wouldn't call a timeout.
Collins said that the Titans originally called a running play, but he was told over his headset that the Colts wouldn't call a timeout to potentially force Tennessee to punt with less than 20 seconds left. Pressed further, Collins said the Colts and Titans coaches had "a communication," which is sure to raise collusion questions. Clearly it would have been a long shot for the Colts to win, but Browns fans won't enjoy hearing this one.
The Colts played Jim Sorgi all game instead of Peyton Manning. If you're going to penalize teams for not giving it their all to win every game, start there.
Browns fans can suck a fleshpop. Collusion to end an already decided game with seconds remaining? Come off it.
Belichick wins AP Coach of the Year
thanks easy lite
* Avon Barksdale gets out of prison and retakes the throne. A turf war ensues between Marlo and Avon.
* Dukie becomes "hard" like Bodie and ends up getting killed by a stick up boy.
* Omar is killed by Michael.
* McNaulty is kicked out the police department. He becomes a private detective.
* Prop Joe gets killed by Marlo.
* Carcetti gets dirty from campaign money. He stops his reforms.
Hahaha I love you. In the gay way.
Me three!
Raiders DT Warren Sapp announced his retirement from football.
"If you were going to pick a football team...and it came time for you to pick your three-technique," Sapp said, "you were taking me with you. That's all I ever wanted from this game." A seven-time Pro Bowler and six-time All Pro, Sapp retires with 96.5 sacks, an incredible amount for an interior lineman. He was Defensive Player of the Year in 1999 and won a Super Bowl with the Bucs in 2002. Sapp will likely be a first or second ballot Hall of Famer.
Texans DE Mario Williams was named NFL Defensive Lineman of the Year by the NFL Alumni Association.
Reggie Bush...or...Mario Williams???
Only one of them gives it to Kim Kardashian in the pooper.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 04, 2008, 03:23:15 PM
Only one of them gives it to Kim Kardashian in the pooper.
And the other is engaged to her.
(ok, maybe Mario didnt have a crack at her, but I say the chances are 50-50 that he will in the future. She has gotten more black guys off than Abraham Lincoln.)
Brady wins the MVP with all but one vote (Favre)
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 05, 2008, 02:19:02 PM
Brady wins the MVP with all but one vote (Favre)
Madden gets a vote, huh?
Anyone else glad the Eagles didn't even make a play for Julian Peterson a few years ago? I mean, they had Dhani Jones patrolling the defense then. Who needs a stud SLB?
farging idiots.
Go to ATL, Heckert.
Peterson or Kerney, not like they could use either of those guys
Not sure if it's been mentioned but next round:
Sat 430: vs. GB
Sat 800: vs. NE
Sun 100: vs. Ind
Sun 430: vs. Dal
Saturday games on NBC, Sunday games on FOX, just like this weekend, right?
no its fox, cbs, cbs, fox
oh. well then I don't see any of them because my teevee doesn't get any cbs or fox stations
oh well
Quote from: Diomedes on January 05, 2008, 08:32:10 PM
oh. well then I don't see any of them because my teevee doesn't get any cbs or fox stations
oh well
(http://etscomm.net/images/dish.jpg)
no thank. I don't just talk the talk...I give as little money to Satan as possible
This JAX PIT game is good
Aside from the Steelers getting every call I agree with you.
that PI call for Ward was a joke, he initialized all the contact
Jax's offense has been putrid for the entire 4th quarter, they've been playing not to lose
first Greg Jones drops that easy pass then he totally blows a pass protection, they probably shouldn't let him play anymore
Quote from: SunMo on January 05, 2008, 11:10:03 PM
that PI call for Ward was a joke, he initialized all the contact
Jax's offense has been putrid for the entire 4th quarter, they've been playing not to lose
Their offense has been putrid alot this year. They have an effective game manager at QB and if they have to rely on him to win it, thats when it gets iffy. STs, defense and the running game is how they do it - win ugly
Goodbye, Pittsburgh.
Roethlisberger was a goddamn turnover machine tonight.
Jacksonville, enjoy the Beantown ass raping next week.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2008, 11:38:42 PM
Goodbye, Pittsburgh.
Roethlisberger was a goddamn turnover machine tonight.
Jacksonville, enjoy the Beantown ass raping next week.
You're assuming that San Diego wins tomorrow?
Pretty much.
They are who I am rooting for in the AFC because I want to see LT win something. I hope Rivers has a great post-season because it only makes the Giants look worse.
Tennessee has several players who I enjoy watching, one of them being that little CB Cortland Finnegan. And I wish Jeff Fisher was the HC of the Eagles.
As for TB; looks like the gritty amped up Garcia couldn't get it done. Such a shame. Because he's obviously GREAT and the Eagles shold have dumped 10 mil into him.
Antonio Gates is getting carted off the field. He did get on the cart himself, but that's never a good sign.
6-0 at halftime? Super!
Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
L. Tomlinson 11 11 0 4
My playoff FF is shaping up nicely...
Each of the four home teams next weekend is at least an 8-point favorite according to the early odds...
Bob Sanders won defensive POY with 31/50 votes
Kerney = 4
Haynesworth = 4
Antonio Cromartie = 3
Vrabel = 2
DeMarcus Ware = 2
Mario Williams = 1
Ronde Barber = 1
Patrick Willis = 1
James Harrison = 1
No votes for Jevon Kearse? Travesty!
Check out the asterisk after the Patriots record in the link below.
http://www.jaguars.com/News/powerrankings.aspx
Haha. That's great.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 07, 2008, 04:05:27 PM
Check out the asterisk after the Patriots record in the link below.
http://www.jaguars.com/News/powerrankings.aspx
Haha. That's great.
The New York Post has a hell of a lot more readers than the Jags site and they have been asterisking the Pats in their standings all season long. Their asterisk says "caught cheating".
Brady won offensive POY with 35.5/50 votes
Moss = 12.5
Welker = 1
Favre = 1
Peter King with that last vote again...
Martz hired by San Fran (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3186942)
It's looking like Antonio Gates will miss the game vs the Colts (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20080108-9999-1s8chnotes.html)
QuotePOSTED 10:12 p.m. EST, January 9, 2008
BROWN TO WEAR HEATED PANTS
As the reader who pointed this one out to us observed, "Yeah, this will dispel the stereotype that kickers are wimps."
Seahawks kicker Josh Brown will be wearing heated pants on Saturday at Lambeau Field.
Heated. Pants.
Specifically, battery power will keep the calves, thighs, and hamstrings at 75 degrees.
The goal is to help Brown stay loose while he's waiting to kick. But whatever happened to stretching or riding a stationary bike?
Or, you know, something more masculine. Like leg warmers?
the farg?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3188045
Pete Carroll interested in Falcons job.
Ok, if I'm Pete Carroll I'm not taking this job for several reasons.
1. I coached 2 other teams in the NFL, 1 of them starting the year following a SB appearance and I eventually ran that team into the ground through a steady decline each year. I also coached the Jets once and people still remember Rich Kotite more than me.
2. I've got a great thing going at USC.
3. If I want to test the NFL waters again then I damn sure wouldn't do it in Atlanta. That team is in complete disaray from top to bottom.
4. I live in SoCal. Who the hell moves from SoCal to Atlanta except that crackhead biatch from Boyz in the Hood?
I hope that he's not seriously considering taking this job and is only pretending to show interest to try and squeeze a few more bucks out of USC. If he does take the job it could possibly be one of the worst career choices ever made.
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Pete Carroll has no interest in becoming the Falcons' next head coach.
Schefter quotes a source close to Carroll who says that Pete is "not even entertaining the idea" of going to Atlanta, and that he has similar disinterest in the opening in Washington. "It's the wrong place, the wrong time, the wrong guy," said the source. Still, Schefter thinks there's a chance Arthur Blank could make a "recruiting" trip to Los Angeles to let Carroll know just how much money he'd be willing to drop on the silver-haired Trojan. Jan. 9 - 6:42 pm et
I can't think of any way in which an NFL head coaching job is better than an NCAA Division 1-A head coaching job in one of the BCS conference schools.
--money
--not having to travel around the country going into 17 year olds living rooms and beg them to come to your school
--the ncaa
--its the top football league in the world
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 10, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
--money
While the top NFL coaches make more than the top NCAA coaches, I would bet that the average over the top 25 is higher in the NCAA.
Quote--not having to travel around the country going into 17 year olds living rooms and beg them to come to your school
Granted - that's probably the killer. Still, the better your team, the easier it is to recruit, and there's no salary cap to pull you back toward parity.
Quote--the ncaa
How so? The overwhelming majority of coaches have no problems with the NCAA since they, you know, follow the rules.
Quote--its the top football league in the world
Highest level of talent yes, but weren't you just arguing that NCAAF was the best sport on TV? I think every coach wants a shot at the NFL, but NCAAF is a cushier long term deal.
im not saying the nfl is for everyone but there are many reasons to coach in the pros vs college
and dont underestimate the ncaa factor..even if youre not getting caught for doing anything wrong the ncaa is an absolute nightmare to deal with
also i believe carroll makes like 3 million now which i believe is less than the nfl avg
carroll failed with the jets and patriots. he is a shoein to win the pac 10 every year and gets to live in southern cal. hes only doing this is get a raise from usc.
Quote from: Cerevant on January 10, 2008, 01:05:11 PM
Quote--its the top football league in the world
Highest level of talent yes, but weren't you just arguing that NCAAF was the best sport on TV? I think every coach wants a shot at the NFL, but NCAAF is a cushier long term deal.
Good point. you can maintain long term stability at one school simply by keeping your school competetive for major bowls and the occasional national championship.
Javon Walker will need to restructure his contract to remain in Denver.
Coach Mike Shanahan added that Walker could need microfracture surgery in the next two to four years. If Walker does leave, Denver would need a No. 2 receiver to pair with Brandon Marshall as Shanny favorite Brandon Stokley is best suited to the No. 3 role. Jan. 11 - 11:44 am et
ha....Buffalo promoted Modrak from Director to VP
Mark Eckel will give him a congratulatory blowjob tonight.
QuotePacman Jones reportedly punched a female lawyer at the Body Tap strip club in North Atlanta on January 3rd.
Jones apparently entered the manager's office, accusing the club of stealing money from him and falsely accusing his entourage of owing a tab. Jones reportedly lunged at the woman multiple times during the meeting, in what the lawyer said was an attempt at grave bodily harm. Jones didn't connect until afterwards in the hallway, when he reached around a security guard to "sucker punch" the woman. Not only could this be a violation of Jones' parole, it could result in the league delaying his March return to football activities, and certainly make the Titans less willing to welcome him back.
Good riddance, Pacman.
The only thing worse than punching a woman is sucker punching a woman. Donkey punching, however, is still acceptable.
At least he has his wrestling career to fall back on because he's likely done in the nfl.
Norm Chow just got canned.
Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett is reportedly deciding between the Ravens' head coaching job and the Cowboys' counteroffer which would match the Ravens' salary to stay as offensive coordinator.
The Ravens should have the advantage because they are not only expected to outbid the Cowboys but they can give Garrett a head coaching title.
If Garrett is hired, he likely will name former Miami Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron as his offensive coordinator, a source said.
There has been speculation that he could hire either Dom Capers or John Harbaugh as his defensive coordinator. Capers is the former Dolphins defensive coordinator, and Harbaugh is the Philadelphia Eagles' secondary coach.
Good ol' Randy
http://580wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/04498_Randy-Moss-Hit-With-Temporary-Restraining-Order__105029.html (http://580wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/04498_Randy-Moss-Hit-With-Temporary-Restraining-Order__105029.html)
and his follow up to the claim
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/ (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/)
Looking very bleek for Chad Johnson leaving according to Lewis
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2008/01/lewis-chad-wont-be-traded.asp (http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2008/01/lewis-chad-wont-be-traded.asp)
How many times is Dom Capers going to have to get fired before he stops getting NFL jobs? He was a washout both times as a head coach and now has been fired as a coordinator by a team that went 1-15 last year.
If the NFL wants to stop being perceived as an old boys network, kicking fossils like Capers to the curb for good would be a good start.
Why would you think that the NFL wants to stop being seen as a good ol boys network?
Father arrested for forcing son to wear Green Bay Packers jersey
PORTAGE, Wis. (AP) -Upset that his 7-year-old son wouldn't wear a Green Bay Packers jersey during the team's playoff victory Saturday, a man restrained the boy for an hour with tape and taped the jersey onto him.
Mathew Kowald was cited for disorderly conduct in connection with the incident with his son at their home in Pardeeville, Lt. Wayne Smith of the Columbia County Sheriff's Department said. Pardeeville is about 30 miles north of Madison.
The 36-year-old Kowald was arrested Monday after his wife told authorities about the incident. Kowald was taken to the county jail and held until Wednesday, when he pleaded no contest, paid a fine of $186 and was released.
Kowald's wife filed a restraining order Wednesday, so Kowald will not be able to have contact with his family, Smith said. Smith said other domestic issues have surfaced, though he wouldn't elaborate.
The boy refused to wear the jersey Saturday, when the Packers beat the Seattle Seahawks in a playoff game, Smith said. Smith said the incident sounded strange when reported at first, but the mother took pictures with her cell phone and that type of evidence is difficult to dispute.
Kowald, contacted later Wednesday by the Portage Daily Register, said the incident started as a joke. His son challenged him by saying he wouldn't root for the Packers. When he tied the boy up, the youngster was laughing while his wife took pictures, he said.
''Then he couldn't get out and he got upset and that's it. It lasted a minute,'' he said. ''I didn't mean no harm, and he knows that, but I haven't been able to tell him that.''
District Attorney Jane Kohlwey said there wasn't enough evidence to support felony charges.
''I wouldn't agree with what he did, but legally a parent can restrain a child,'' she said. ''I have no proof of emotional damage. ... I have to
His wife needs to be taped to the kitchen stove.
Moss denies battery claim (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/01/17/moss_denies_battery_claim/)
QuoteFOXBOROUGH - Randy Moss yesterday vigorously denied allegations he committed battery against a Florida woman in her Fort Lauderdale, Fla., residence earlier this month.
Rachelle Washington, 35, who claimed she has had an intimate relationship with Moss since 1997, received a temporary restraining order in the Broward County Court against the Patriots wide receiver Monday. In her petition, Washington alleged Moss caused her serious injury in the Jan. 6 incident and denied her medical attention.
Moss, the poor victim.
Quote"My situation is where I felt that I did nothing wrong. It was an accident. Whatever happened, it was an accident. I wish I could sit here and tell you all what happened. But there is a lawsuit or whatever coming against me; I can't really explain or tell you all what is going on."
Bullshtein. What was the serious injury? He's been screwing this woman for 10 years and now she claims battery?? I'm not exactly a Moss fan, but give me a friggen' break.
yay...more regular season football in England next season. Give 'em Falcons/Raiders
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2008, 12:32:15 PM
Father arrested for forcing son to wear Green Bay Packers jersey
PORTAGE, Wis. (AP) -Upset that his 7-year-old son wouldn't wear a Green Bay Packers jersey during the team's playoff victory Saturday, a man restrained the boy for an hour with tape and taped the jersey onto him.
Mathew Kowald was cited for disorderly conduct in connection with the incident with his son at their home in Pardeeville, Lt. Wayne Smith of the Columbia County Sheriff's Department said. Pardeeville is about 30 miles north of Madison.
The 36-year-old Kowald was arrested Monday after his wife told authorities about the incident. Kowald was taken to the county jail and held until Wednesday, when he pleaded no contest, paid a fine of $186 and was released.
Kowald's wife filed a restraining order Wednesday, so Kowald will not be able to have contact with his family, Smith said. Smith said other domestic issues have surfaced, though he wouldn't elaborate.....
That guy that taped up his kid is pretty farged up. Unless of course it was a Brett Favre jersey. Probably all started when he married a Bears fan and they've been at eachothers throats ever since.
9 or 10 years from now this article will be about me. Yes, I plan on restraining my child until they understand that the Eagles will eventually win something and when they do it'll be worth the years of abuse. WORTH IT!
I would've guessed plain old normal child abuse with you.
Quote from: shorebird on January 17, 2008, 04:25:53 PM
Bullshtein. What was the serious injury? He's been screwing this woman for 10 years and now she claims battery?? I'm not exactly a Moss fan, but give me a friggen' break.
Look at Moss' defense: not "I didn't do it" but "It was an accident". Just like he accidentally ran over that traffic cop.
He didn't run over a traffic cop, for farg sake.
I think it was a meter maid.
I'm actually going to give Moss the benefit of the doubt with this one. Obviously, it's easy to look like a saint when you're winning and catching all types of TD passes but I really think the last few years in Oakland were kind of eye opening for him and he may have actually grown up a little bit.
I had a conversation with a buddy that's a Patriots fan:
Me: "What's up with Randy Moss? You'd think after breaking the NFL record for TD receptions in a season, he'd treat his lady better."
Him: "The woman sustained a superficial injury to a single finger. X-rays were negative. She wanted $500K to "keep quiet". Moss's team offered $100K and they said no so here we are. She is 35, lives in an apartment, is unemployed and has twice been through eviction proceedings."
Me: "Hey, people gotta eat, right? What did Randy do to her finger?"
Him: ""It's not known but my guess is maybe he clenched up too tight before she had completely withdrawn."
that conversation is completely fabricated and uninteresting to boot
That's about what I heard about it too.......the part about her wanting 6 figures. Not the part about her sticking her digits in his can.
Quote from: SunMo on January 18, 2008, 11:05:43 AM
that conversation is completely fabricated
It's verbatim from the emails sent back and forth, actually.
VeRbAtIm!
what other things have you talked with friends about?
Quote from: phattymatty on January 18, 2008, 01:03:53 PM
what other things have you talked with friends about?
broken toes
The first topic of conversation is the weather. The second is Rusty's scrotum.
Herschel Walker has multiple personalities (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3202776)
Siran Stacy gets multiple social security checks
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 18, 2008, 01:17:58 PM
Herschel Walker has multiple personalities (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3202776)
Maybe it explains the whole bobsled thing. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CEFDB173EF934A25751C0A964958260)
ROSEBUD!
Citizen Kane is the best movie ever.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 18, 2008, 01:31:48 PM
Citizen Kane is the best movie ever.
Don't even start with that bullshtein.
You obviously haven't seen 'All dogs go to heaven: 2 - who let the dogs out?"
Leslie Frazier will interview with Atlanta
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 19, 2008, 12:46:37 PM
Leslie Frazier will interview with Atlanta
Apparently the racists are interested in him too. I thought Spagnuolo would get more interest.
Leslie is a girl's name.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 19, 2008, 12:50:12 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 19, 2008, 12:46:37 PM
Leslie Frazier will interview with Atlanta
Apparently the racists are interested in him too. I thought Spagnuolo would get more interest.
Spagnuolo has been a little busy preparing for the NFC Championship Game tomorrow. I'm sure he'll get interviews once the Giants are eliminated.
They can interview him now if they'd like, there aren't gonna be any job openings left come Monday.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 19, 2008, 12:51:50 PM
Leslie is a girl's name.
This man disagrees.
(http://www.celebirony.com/foto/attrici/Leslie_Nielsen/leslie_nielsen_grande1.jpg)
Glazer:
-- Holmgren won't get a contract extension and will retire either this offseason or next
-- Spagnuolo or Rex Ryan gets the Falcons job
Dungy says he will return next season
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3207160
Bills' Anthony Hargrove suspended for the full season without pay.