Game of Thrones

[rjs246]

I think it's pretty clear that Cersei played the key role in Robert's death. Seems silly to argue otherwise.

Anyway, the character is one of the best on the show exactly because she is so vengeful and spiteful and bumbling. The performance put in by Headey is fantastic and makes it almost possible to sympathize with her (and also, wow that walk of shame was some tough acting for real and pretty amazingly pulled off), until you remember that she is entirely self-serving and uninterested in doing anything that doesn't advance her own agenda or the agenda of whichever of her children happens to be in danger at that moment.

[smeags]

thought i remembered lancel mentioning to her about killing robert for her when he first saw cersei as a member of the faith ??

either way, i have less than zero sympathy for her.

I think what you're supposed to think is she told Lancel to keep Robert drunk and hope he died or something like that.

i read into that much more. i have to re-watch that scene but i thought he mentioned something about the wine being spiked.

i do get where you're coming from with her character, i'm just a vindictive viewer and the few times she hasnt been a royal funhole, to me, doesnt wash away all the shtein she has pulled.

it seems by design, that cersei can bring about different opinions like this. (actually with many characters overall)

[Eagaholic]

iirc Lancel basically says to Cersei (I think it is at Tywin's funeral when they meet up?) they he was to see to it that Robert had plenty of what they called "strongwine" in hopes of some accident happening at Cercei's behest, which resulted in Robert's death. The scene was portrayed on the show in S1 while Renly berates Robert's whoring and "making the seven," with Lancel seemingly taking every opportunity to get Robert drunk.

At the same time though, judging by the way Lancel is always giving Cersei the Olly stare, it is possible his view is skewed since he was humiliated and used as a pawn by Cercei and Tyrion in their games. No doubt the high sparrow knows everything from Lancel's pov.

Cersei will of course be crushed by the news of Myrcella and it won't be lost on Jamie how both of his children died by the same or similar poison. It will be interesting to see what effect it will have on his character. It would also seem obvious that Ellaria played her revenge perfectly and another otherwise avoidable war, which Prince Doran worked to prevent, will now be coming and the Lannisters will be holding Trystane. Perhaps Jamie will see through what has happened though and be at odds with Cersei over going to war (just my guess for next season). The Sand Snakes were complicit and will probably have to flee with Ellaria before long or else kill Doran before he finds out about Myrcella/Trystane

[smeags]

btw - hard to decide who has the better tatas, cersei or tyene  .... guess i need to watch both boobie scenes over and over again to figure it out.

[Eagles_Legendz]

Cersei and Jaime are reallllly at odds at this point in the books.  Cersei more or less treats him awfully and he says to farg off.  The books have handled it much differently.  If they're still planning a schism I guess it could be over the Martells.  Maybe Ellaria's conversation about innocence episode 9 Jaime will take to heart and not take it out on Trystane while Cersei will want him dead.

[Zanshin]

I'm watching it, so I'm making fun of myself as much as anyone-- but you guys realize this is basically a soap opera with nudity and a dragon sighting sprinkled in here and there, right?

[smeags]

I'm watching it, so I'm making fun of myself as much as anyone-- but you guys realize this is basically a soap opera with nudity and a dragon sighting sprinkled in here and there, right?

and ?

[SunMo]

what's the definition of soap opera?  it's a dramatic TV show.  if this is a soap opera so is Breaking Bad, Sopranos, etc.

[Zanshin]

Kind of like porn where you know it when you see it. I think the overt drama for the sake of drama is more intense in GOT than in the other shows you mentioned. I was half kidding...but I think it holds up. Personal opinion.

[Eagles_Legendz]

It depends on GoT.  Some storylines I agree with that.  Others I don't.  Not every story is equally acted and written and since they're so diverse in setting higher variance than a show with a much smaller cast and fewer locations.

[rjs246]

GOT is 100% a soap opera. I don't care, of course, but Z is absolutely correct.

[smeags]

too bad general hospital never had dragons, cause ....

[Zanshin]

Ha. The walk of shame was a body double.

http://mashable.com/2015/06/15/cersei-lannister-body-double/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link

[SunMo]

"100% body double for several reasons, the face outline was blurry as shtein when they showed the entire body from the front, two that body doesn't look at all like Lena's body," Reddit user whaucs wrote.

shut the farg up you farging nerd.  you have no idea what her body looks like you know nothing zero. 

[Eagles_Legendz]

She was pregnant so they used a body double.  Dunno why people seem pissed off about that.