Random Eagles Information Still Not Worthy of a New Thread

[QB Eagles]

I personally wouldn't play tough for seeding. First of all, it's a big assumption that SF will be 5 and NO 6. If Arizona beats the 49ers that thing reverses. And Arizona can still make the playoffs also. Obviously Carolina might not beat the Saints. And if the wild card team beats whatever zesty NFC North team comes out, they will be the ones to play Seattle anyway.

[Eagles_Legendz]

arizona loses tiebreakers to the 9ers.  so assuming the niners win next week, arizona has basically nothing to play for (because they lost the tiebreaker to the saints).  again, this is all contingent upon the panthers beating the saints, but that's your ideal split i think if you're the eagles (New Orleans on the road and then in Carolina).

You're right though that the six seed could very well beat the NFC North team.  Just saying, to me, there's a big difference between getting the saints on the road in rd1 and getting the niners. 

how about washington wins so this goes out the window and the eagles can play everyone.

[ice grillin you]

washington will beat the cowboys and the parking lot will erupt and get more crazy than its already gonna be

[QB Eagles]

arizona has basically nothing to play for

There's two types of having nothing to play for.

The first is when you've already clinched your playoff position. Then you have incentive to rest your guys and actively look forward to your playoff opponent. This is when a team truly doesn't give a farg. Sometimes they win anyway because the coach doesn't lay off the gas or because the team they are playing really sucks, but no one cares.

The second is when you've already been eliminated. In my opinion, a team is still dangerous in this mode. Guys are playing for their stats, jobs, and contracts. If Arizona is eliminated, they will have the same motivation the Vikings had today. In fact, they may care more than the Niners, who will probably have already punched their ticket.

The bottom line is I don't think the Eagles should try to aim for a certain draw in the playoffs. There's too many possibilities still outside of their control. And I think that unless Chip signals total surrender by resting Shady, he's gonna go all out for the W in any 'meaningless' game anyway.

[PhillyPhreak54]

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

On the other hand, the Eagles have the embarrassing title of being the only team in football with a worse record at home than in its travels; since opening the Lincoln Financial Field in 2003, the Eagles are 48-39 (.551) at home and 51-35-1 (.593) on the road. They're a dreadful 5-10 at home over the past two years when the rest of the league has won nearly 60 percent of their home games over that time frame. That's interesting news for a team that has a very important home game against a surging Bears team this Sunday night, right?

Talk to Eagles fans and they'll surely suggest that the atmosphere in Philly has changed since the team moved out of the brutal atmosphere of Veterans Stadium into the more modern, human-friendly Linc. It's hard for a team to have less of a home-field advantage than what the Eagles have had since moving, but was the Vet really that much more terrifying of a place for traveling teams?

Not really.

[Sgt PSN]

Anyone who thinks the Vet wasn't intimidating to opponents is nuts. Not only is the crowd much softer at the Linc, but the turf is too.   Doesn't mean that teams couldn't come in and have good games against the Eagles, because they did, but no one looked forward to playing there. 

[Eagles_Legendz]

Anyone who thinks the Vet wasn't intimidating to opponents is nuts. Not only is the crowd much softer at the Linc, but the turf is too.   Doesn't mean that teams couldn't come in and have good games against the Eagles, because they did, but no one looked forward to playing there.

The article wasn't really looking at it from a subjective standpoint, just that the eagles home/road splits were 5th worst in football from 90-'02 even @ the Vet.

[ice grillin you]

yeah the eagle splits werent special at the vet....i adore the vet as much as anyone miss it dearly but its influence on visiting teams is overrrated....its basically the best nfl folk story ever told

[Rome]

A lot of the teams sucked ass on the field, so of course their record wasn't great.   When the teams on the field were good and the crowds got into it, it was incredibly intimidating.  I was there at every home game during Buddy's tenure and I can personally attest to that.

[Eagles_Legendz]

A lot of the teams sucked ass on the field, so of course their record wasn't great.   When the teams on the field were good and the crowds got into it, it was incredibly intimidating.  I was there at every home game during Buddy's tenure and I can personally attest to that.

It wasn't measuring overall record, just saying the difference between how the eagles performed on the road versus at home was small.   A bunch of bad teams have large splits over that same time.  I was actually somewhat surprised, I didn't remember the Eagles being close to the same on the road as at home in the 90s.

[QB Eagles]

Teams didn't like dealing with the Vet and its rabid fans. But not liking the place is different from not being able to kick the Eagles asses there.

[Sgt PSN]

Teams didn't like dealing with the Vet and its rabid fans. But not liking the place is different from not being able to kick the Eagles asses there.

Exactly.  I think the Vet was an advantage for the Eagles, specifically because of the field itself. Players hated/feared playing on it.  And the Vet was about a million x louder and drunker than the Linc. Unfortunately, many of the Eagles teams during that era weren't good enough to capitalize on that advantage. 

[Eagaholic]

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

They're a dreadful 5-10 at home over the past two years when the rest of the league has won nearly 60 percent of their home games over that time frame. That's interesting news for a team that has a very important home game against a surging Bears team this Sunday night, right?

On this one, the author has his head so far up his ass it should have a red blinking light on top to warn low flying aircraft. The dreadful 5-10 at home since 2012 is due to ...news flash... they sucked in 2012. In that year they won 4 games total, 2 at home an 2 on the road. It is silly to attribute W/L to home field with such a small sample. In fact, at home they beat the Ravens who went on to win the SB, and the Giants who were a hot team at the time - the Giants loss to the Eagles at the Linc was their only loss in a 7 game span.

As for this year, they are 3-4 at home. Hardly enough of sample to draw any conclusion about home field advantage, it's not like they are 1-6. Streaky might be more like it since they have won their last 3 in a row at home - which obviously should suggest an impending home loss to the Bears, right?

[QB Eagles]

Unfortunately, many of the Eagles teams during that era weren't good enough to capitalize on that advantage. 

That's not the point the author is making though. Whether the Eagles teams were bad or good, they weren't doing much better at home than they were at away games. Other teams, both bad ones and good ones, do significantly better at home. I think this pretty much proves the atmosphere of the Vet was not an advantage to the Eagles' performance. It was only a benefit to the team mythology.

Meanwhile it's pretty sad that the Eagles at the Linc are the only team to do better in away games than at home games in terms of W-L %. Must be the turbines.

[ice grillin you]

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

They're a dreadful 5-10 at home over the past two years when the rest of the league has won nearly 60 percent of their home games over that time frame. That's interesting news for a team that has a very important home game against a surging Bears team this Sunday night, right?

The dreadful 5-10 at home since 2012 is due to ...news flash... they sucked in 2012.

even zesty teams dont lose that many in a row at home....it was a franchise record...it was four off of the all time nfl record...not to mention in terms of talent they werent that bad of a team at all....the linc record has more to do than just being a bad team.....of course i dont know what that is