Dead in 2011

[rjs246]

We aren't in a war with terrorism. Terrorism isn't something you can go to war against. The theoretical threat of it will always be present from now until the end of time. Should we sacrifice our rights and prviacy for all of eternity because some day someone might decide to do something crazy?

Of the millions upon millions of commercial flights that have flown before and since 9/11 how many of them were hijacked? Our sense of risk is farging out of whack that huge swaths of the population are willing to give up basic rights for the illusion of safety. There is no safety. And there is no threat.

[reese125]

We aren't in a war with terrorism. Terrorism isn't something you can go to war against. The theoretical threat of it will always be present from now until the end of time. Should we sacrifice our rights and prviacy for all of eternity because some day someone might decide to do something crazy?

Of the millions upon millions of commercial flights that have flown before and since 9/11 how many of them were hijacked? Our sense of risk is farging out of whack that huge swaths of the population are willing to give up basic rights for the illusion of safety. There is no safety. And there is no threat.

ok--should we not take preventive action now for all those commercial flights we take since it did happen? Or we should all be like you and that guy that says pffft...cmon man...fear is an illusion...it will never happen again. fight for your rights man!

[rjs246]

It will happen again. Because we can't possibly stop all bad things from happening, especially when they're driven by irrational suicidal people. They will always find a way to follow through. In the mean time I don't want to have my balls in some sweaty dude's hands just so I can fly to my client sites.

[Rome]

You sure seem to protest having your balls fondled by men too much, Russell.

Just go with it.  After all, you have to pay fifty bucks extra for each bag anyway, right?

[rjs246]

Full disclosure: my bag sees more daylight than any nutsack ever should. I was just trying to make a point.

[charlie]

It will happen again. Because we can't possibly stop all bad things from happening, especially when they're driven by irrational suicidal people. They will always find a way to follow through. In the mean time I don't want to have my balls in some sweaty dude's hands just so I can fly to my client sites.

Phreak does.

[BigEd76]

OBL generates 6 pages of TSA talk in the dead topic.  Good stuff.  I thought we argued about this feel-me-up crap months ago

[rjs246]

The bottom line is this. We are not under a constant barage of attacks. This is not the West Bank or the Gaza Strip. We are a safe country BUT no matter what the government does we will never be able to completely stop someone from attacking us if they are hell bent on doing it. So in a fruitless attempt to create an impossibly safe world we are willingly sacrificing our privacy on the off chance that someone wants to blow up a plane.

farg that.

At least I'm consistent.

[phattymatty]

i love my liberties.

almost as much as being molested.

its a give and take.

[reese125]

there is a time to put your birkenstocks back on and let go of the tree and bongos...and this is one of them.

[Sgt PSN]

Wouldn't you actually be taking the birkenstocks off? 

[reese125]

are we talking about the same barefoot quad rats playing hackeysack in the mud?

[rjs246]

Wouldn't you actually be taking the birkenstocks off?  

That was exactly my thought. Is there a more libertarian issue than the right to privacy over the right of the government? I think reese is just out of obtuse arguments and decided to throw that out there as a final farewell grenade.

[reese125]

you both missed it which was cute

[Diomedes]

birkenstocks are comfy