Rest of Baseball 2011

[QB Eagles]

Orioles closer (and former Phillie prospect) Alfredo Simón killed a dude.

[MDS]

good for him

[BigEd76]

Atlanta gave Uggla 5/$62M

[Don Ho]

That's as bad as murder.

[BigEd76]

Bert Blyleven and Roberto Alomar are HOF

Bagwell only got 42% (his first year of eligibility)

[BigEd76]

Adrian Beltre to the Rangers....6/$96M

Adam LaRoche to the Nats...3/$25M

Derrek Lee to the Orioles...1/$8M

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I think it bears adding that the Hall of Fame voting is a total crock of shtein.

Discuss.  Or don't.

[SD]

It is...but I'm happy they're keeping the roiders out.

[Sgt PSN]

HOF should pretty much be like the Heisman where only current members get a vote.  Sportswriters can hold a grudge over an athlete because said athlete was a fleshpop to him 1 time 20 years ago (take Bayless and TO for example.  Different sport, same principle).  Not to mention that it seems to make sportswriters feel like they're a lot more important than they really are.  Farg that. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

So there are people who actually believe that the HoF is roid free?

Should we also cancel out all the guys who didn't have to play against black folk?

[MDS]

its such a sham and its something people just dont talk about

like almost anything HOF is an old boys network, once you get in you stay in and you live in your glass house where you can not be "a ricky guy" and justify not voting for ricky henderson.

its ridiculous but hopefully those people will be dead within 10 years

[Sgt PSN]

I don't think anyone beleives that the players currently in the HOF are all clean.  There's roiders in there and guys who used other performance enhancers.  Some we know about, others we have no clue.  Guys like Bonds and McGwire will eventually get in imo.  Especially McGwire.  He was always well liked and finally came clean.  Bonds will eventually get in too.  He was too good not to, even without the juice.

Someone like Palmiero on the other hand probably shouldn't get in regardless of steroids.  He piled up a lot of numbers during the steroid era, but so did everyone else that played in that era.  He has 500 hr.  Ok, great.  I beleive he's also the only member of the 500 hr club who never led the league in hr in any given year.  In fact, he only led the league 3x in any offensive category.  Hits in 1990, Doubles in 1992 and Runs in 1993.  He was only selected to 4 AS games, one of which was as a DH and only once did he crack the top 5 in MVP voting (5th in 1999).  So even if he wasn't juicing (which he was), he didn't put together enough seasons where he was definitively among the top players in the game to be HOF material imo.   

Also, I don't know exactly when Palmeiro started juicing, but I'd put my money on 1993.  Were it not for the strike shorted season of 1994, he would have had 11 straight seasons of 35+ hr when his previous career high was just 26.  Coincidentally, he hit 38 hr in 2003 and then in 2004 when the league started testing, he only hit 23.  Shocking!     

[MDS]

bonds is a first ballot HOF even without his steroids years

but he was perhaps the biggest icehole of all time and a roid head....i.e. he isnt getting in

yet ty cobb is happily in the hall of fame even though he was a drunk racist, so....yup

[Sgt PSN]

bonds is a first ballot HOF even without his steroids years

but he was perhaps the biggest icehole of all time and a roid head....i.e. he isnt getting in

yet ty cobb is happily in the hall of fame even though he was a drunk racist, so....yup

Bonds will get it, but it'll probably be in his last year of eligibility.  The writers will never vote him in so it will have to be whatever that committe it is that gets the final say.  He'll be on the ballot for a few more years and by that time, a lot of the negativity around him will have worn off. 

[smeags]

hey lets knock out all the guys from the 70's that popped greenies.