Well, it's that time of year again: farg DALLAS!

[Sgt PSN]

The deeper we get into this year and playoffs, we are going to get better defenses and they need to adjust. 

Not really.  The Bears and Giants are the only 2 defenses that seem to match up well against the Eagles in the NFC.  Every other NFC defense that the Eagles have played against, they've basically embarrassed.  GB defense dominated Kolb and got rolled on by Vick.  Kolb smoked SF and Atl (and Atl was mostly without Pimp too) so imagine how that game would go with Vick and Pimp on the field. 

The only defense that has gotten the better of Vick and the Eagles that they might have to face in the playoffs in Chicago.  And the difference in that game was the int Vick threw, so it's not like they just dominated the Eagles that game.  At worst, that game is a coin flip.  Other than the Bears, there isn't a single defense out of the NFC playoff teams that has me worried. 

[mussa]

Me either I am just concerned come super bowl 

[ice grillin you]

I think the Bears game was a game where they should of run and run early. They had 2 safeties deep all game, I would of liked to see them force them into the box rather than putting Vick in a position to get hit and force throws. They played in the Bears hands and they dictated how Eagles played offensively. It seemed kind of silly to me. No QB does good under that kind of pressure. The deeper we get into this year and playoffs, we are going to get better defenses and they need to adjust. Which Reid never does.

actually vick has been pretty awesome under pressure

and the eagles ran more than they threw against chicago till they went down 14-3

and they didnt start really moving the ball till they did open it up and go pass

that game had nothing to do with play calling...the defense was awful and vick threw a monster red zone pick..thats it...thats the story

[Sgt PSN]

Uh oh

Ominous news for the Eagles: No Asante Samuel at practice Thursday afternoon.

Samuel, still the NFL interception leader with seven despite missing three of the Eagles' 12 games, is absent from Thursday's practice in the indoor Bubble as he deals with the knee injury he suffered in the Giants game on Nov. 21.

That doesn't necessarily mean he won't play in the Eagles' critical game against the Cowboys Sunday night in Arlington, Texas, but it's not a good sign for a team that's about to face a revived Dallas offense in what's essentially a must-win game.

If Samuel doesn't go, then that basically nullfies any advantage the Eagles had once Dallas put Bryant on IR.

[ice grillin you]

it doesnt just nullify......it puts them at a big disadvantage

and lol @ 'must win game'

[Sgt PSN]

It's not a "must win" but if they lose this game, then it makes the final 3 must win games.  So basically, win this one and you give yourself a little room for error the rest of the way. 

[Tomahawk]

cmon Hawk....you cant predict when somebody is going to get hurt, but you can continue to keep doing what you're doing to win football games.

not to mention you have the best backup qb in the league on the bench. word to your mother.

You should call me Thawk or more formally Tomahawk since there's another poster with the screen name Hawk

I'm just asking for a few more plays designed for the RB...on one of those RB running plays Vick would've been hit and hurt. I just saved his life

[Tomahawk]

I think the Bears game was a game where they should of run and run early. They had 2 safeties deep all game, I would of liked to see them force them into the box rather than putting Vick in a position to get hit and force throws. They played in the Bears hands and they dictated how Eagles played offensively. It seemed kind of silly to me. No QB does good under that kind of pressure. The deeper we get into this year and playoffs, we are going to get better defenses and they need to adjust. Which Reid never does.

actually vick has been pretty awesome under pressure

and the eagles ran more than they threw against chicago till they went down 14-3

and they didnt start really moving the ball till they did open it up and go pass

that game had nothing to do with play calling...the defense was awful and vick threw a monster red zone pick..thats it...thats the story

The story continues with dropped a dropped TD pass, Pimp alligator arming a would be TD and Vick missing a wide open Celek

The plays were there...just came up a little short on execution. I don't think the Eagles offense should be worried about any defense in the league. If they execute just a funhole hair better, they can drop 40 on any team

[Munson]

29 vs det
31 vs colts
38 vs wash
29 vs texans

29 minus 8 Vick runs/scrambles=21 rushes
31 minus 10 Vick runs/scrambles=21 rushes
38 minus 8 Vick runs/scrambles=30 rushes
29 minus 10 Vick runs/scrambles=19 rushes


Yes, they still aren't running enough with their other guys, and the only inflated number in that group is the one where they ran a lot late with Eldra Buckley.


It is not a "myth" that he doesn't run it enough, especially early on in games. But as long as Vick stays healthy, the current way of doing it seems to be the best....

[ice grillin you]

It's not a "must win" but if they lose this game, then it makes the final 3 must win games.  

no it doesnt

beat the giants and you are tied for the division while owning the tiebreak and having your remaining two games at home while the giants hit the road for the last two weeks that includes a week 16 trek to lambeau

ill take those odds anyday

[Eagles_Legendz]

This game matters in terms of leaving a wild card opportunity on the table.  They lose Sunday and the division is the only way into the playoffs. 

[ice grillin you]

This game matters in terms of leaving a wild card opportunity on the table.  They lose Sunday and the division is the only way into the playoffs.  

disagree with this as well tho not nearly as much as dallas being a must win

if the eagles finish 3-1 they have around a 50-50 shot of getting a wc spot

[Eagles_Legendz]

If you are assuming 11-5, fine, the problem is 11-5 wins them the division even if they lose this week (since they would have beaten the Giants).  If they lose this week and next week (which sort of was the premise of my statement) and max at 10-6, I can't see them making the playoffs.  They will lose tiebreakers versus everybody and there will be at least two wildcard teams with 10 wins in the NFC.

[ice grillin you]

oh yeah 10-6 and they are done

all i was saying is that they could still get a wc spot going 3-1

obviously winning next week
and subsequently the division
is the much easier path


gb still has at ne and the nyg
new orl is at balt and atl
chicago still has ne nyj and gb plus at minny which is nowhere near a gimme

[Eagles_Legendz]

Agree with that completely, but, if they lose this week, which is what people were suggesting in these "they are done if they lose etc", that eliminates the WC.  

The reasoning is this:  they lose this week they are 8-5.  IF they win out after that like you're suggesting, they automatically win the division at 11-5 because they would hold tiebreakers over the Giants.

My point is, they could grab a wildcard spot winning this week, week 16, and week 17, but losing vs NY, and getting in at 11-5 for the reasons you said.  If they lose this week it's division or bust (since not winning the division means they also lose next week to NY).

It's almost impossible to come up with a scenario where they lose this week, and win a wild card spot.