The Officials Explanation On The Collie Hit

Started by PhillyPhreak54, November 07, 2010, 10:02:05 PM

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PhillyGirl

QuoteBecause Collie's helmet-to-helmet contact was a result of being driven toward a defender from a prior hit, there's no fine for this action

Re: Coleman
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Tomahawk

That's good news for Coleman. Don't know how much he makes, but I bet 50g means much more to him than James Harrison

General_Failure

However, it is still a penalty even though no one did anything wrong.

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BigEd76

Quote"Because the helmet-to-helmet contact was a result of Collie being driven toward Coleman by Mikell's legal hit, there will be no fine for this action. Though there will be no fine issues for this instance, the play was properly officiated. Officials have been instructed to err on the side of the player safety, and when in doubt, will penalize in situations such as this for unnecessary roughness."

so basically...."He might be hurt. Flag!"

shorebird

The thing I'm most pissed about with this deal, is that the Eagles got screwed out of a  fumble recovery because the refs overreacted to a hit. He'd caught the ball, taken two steps and was getting low 'cause he knew he was gonna' get hit, and fumbled. That would have made a big difference in the games flow, final score had the Eagles coverted the turnover into a TD. Instead the refs almost ended up giving the game to the Colts on a silver platter. That shocks me. The refs tried to give it away and the Colts still couldn't take advantage of it.

PhillyPhreak54

Add Bill Plaschke to the funhole parade; he thought it was dirty and Coleman should be suspended.

Mike Pereria was on with Russi on Sirius and said he found no fault in the hit whatsoever but the officials are worried because they were told in the huge conference call a couple weeks ago that the league, players and agents were hitching about plays that were being fined and not flagged. So essentially it's a flag first and worry about it later thing.


Rome

who the farg is bill plaschke and why should i give a shtein what he says?

Munson

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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Sgt PSN

Yeah, Plaschke's a tool.  Farg him. 

Quote from: BigEd76 on November 08, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
Quote"Because the helmet-to-helmet contact was a result of Collie being driven toward Coleman by Mikell's legal hit, there will be no fine for this action. Though there will be no fine issues for this instance, the play was properly officiated. Officials have been instructed to err on the side of the player safety, and when in doubt, will penalize in situations such as this for unnecessary roughness."

so basically...."He might be hurt. Flag!"

This is the thing that bothers me.......the refs are being instructed by the league to err on the side of caution, which tells me a couple of things:

1.  The league is more concerned about their image in regards to head truama, ALS, etc, etc than they are with the actual product on the field.  I'm all for player safety and I'm fine if they want to make some rule changes to help reduce/eliminate the number of head, neck and spinal injuries.  At the same time though, they have to find a way to do that without putting their game officials in a position to make flimsy calls.  Which leads to.....

2.  The refs are going to make a lot more "questionable" calls because they are trying to cover their own ass in terms of performance reviews and job security......which I don't blame them for one bit.  I'm not defending the refs because they make plenty of bad calls and miss plenty of calls during a game, but I'm not going to persecute them for the Coleman hit or the Cole swipe either because they were pretty much following league protocol. 

SunMo

all the head contact talk happened after the game.  the initial call was "defenseless receiver"  which is one of the all time bad calls.
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Quote from: shorebird on November 08, 2010, 04:48:54 PM
The thing I'm most pissed about with this deal, is that the Eagles got screwed out of a  fumble recovery because the refs overreacted to a hit. He'd caught the ball, taken two steps and was getting low 'cause he knew he was gonna' get hit, and fumbled. That would have made a big difference in the games flow, final score had the Eagles coverted the turnover into a TD. Instead the refs almost ended up giving the game to the Colts on a silver platter. That shocks me. The refs tried to give it away and the Colts still couldn't take advantage of it.

So you're saying you had money on the game and are pissed the Eagles didn't cover?

Rome

if they want to end helmet to helmet contact just remove the helmets.  problem solved.

Diomedes

it would not make the game any less violent either...it would still be football

I'm all for it
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Sgt PSN

Plus, NFL players would finally have to stop bitching about a lack of endorsement deals and celebrity status because their faces are obstructed by facemasks and they are unrecognizable to the public.  Of course, I'm not sure how recognizable they'd be with shoe prints on their faces, but, whatever. 

ice grillin you

three pages after the fact on a bad call in a game the eagles won?

really?
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