2010 Flyers Offseason Thread - IGY Need A Goalie, Damn It!

Started by Rome, June 12, 2010, 12:52:36 PM

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Rome

Tampa really is horrendous.  They gave up on Meszaros because he "underperformed"?  LOL - um, what defenseman didn't on that team especially considering the bantamweights they have at forward.


BigEd76

Jody Shelley just signed too.....3 yrs, $3.3M.  Peace out Carcillo?

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Seabiscuit36

"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Seabiscuit36

Stole this from another site
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July 1st:

-Flyers trade 2012 2nd round pick for Andrej Meszaros

-Flyers re-sign Braydon Coburn, 2 years, $3.2 million per.

-Flyers sign Sean O'Donnell, 1 year, $1 million + incentives

-Flyers sign Jody Shelley, 3 years, $1.1 million per

Flyers offseason so far:

Additions:

3rd Round Pick 2011
Andrej Meszaros
Sean O'Donnell
Jody Shelley

Subtractions:

Ryan Parent
2nd Round Pick 2012
Aaron Asham
Lukas Kraijeck
Ray Emery
Danny Syvret
Mike Rathje

Still need to qualify Carcillo or trade his rights. 

Not sure what theyre gonna do, currently 60k over the cap, and i hope its Gagne being moved. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SD

I think they traded for Meszaros because he was already locked into a contract and they knew they'd have to overpay a guy to accept being 5th defenseman. He was a heck of a player for the Sens and he's only 24.  Really hoping they move salary like a Gagne and still go after a goalie.

Seabiscuit36

yeah, when i saw what Martin and company got, at 4mill he's not as bad as lot of older guys at 5. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

BigEd76

Doug MacLean tweeted that Gagne is done as a Flyer

SD

Quote from: BigEd76 on July 01, 2010, 08:06:03 PM
Doug MacLean tweeted that Gagne is done as a Flyer

Interesting first day, here's Bill Meltzers spin:
QuoteDivisional Rivals Got Better

July 1, 2010

Bill Meltzer
Philadelphia Flyers Blogger • NHL.com • RSS • Archive • CONTACT • Bio

Paul Holmgren's efforts to get a jump on the Flyers' rival teams may have backfired. While Andrej Meszaros is just 24 years old and it is not tough to imagine him regaining the form he displayed in Ottawa, Anton Volchenkov's physical style and shot-blocking prowess were more in line with what the Flyers needed to strengthen the club's ability to protect leads. If the reported cap numbers are correct, Volchenkov's cap hit will be $4.25 million. Meszaros carries a $4 million price tag.

In addition, the Devils were able to sign Henrik Tallinder. While neither Volchenkov nor Tallinder will replace the offensive skills of the departed Paul Martin, the already defensively stingy Devils are likely to allow even fewer goals next season. Meanwhile, the addition of the ancient Sean O'Donnell to the Flyers' blueline adds some veteran leadership, toughness and physical play -- rounding out a formidable starting six -- but it's hard to argue that the Flyers helped themselves as much as the Devils or Pittsburgh Penguins.

Unable to re-sign Sergei Gonchar or convince Dan Hamhuis to sign, Pittsburgh general manager landed both Martin and up-and-coming defensive defenseman Zbynek Michalek, who brings many of the same elements as Volchenkov. Pittsburgh will still feel the loss of Gonchar, but have assembled a mighty good starting six in their own right.

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Barring a subsequent move, Holmgren's preemptive decision to resign Michael Leighton at $1.55 million yesterday is also not looking very good right now. Not when Dan Ellis signed today with Tampa Bay at the same money and Chris Mason inked a two-year deal with Atlanta for yearly salaries of $1.6 and $2.1 million.


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Lastly, I am somewhat mystified by the Flyers decision to sign 34-year-old enforcer Jody Shelley to a 3-year contract worth $1.1 million per season. While he is a good heavyweight who is a better fighter (and bigger) than Riley Cote -- and a response to the Rangers' addition of Derek Boogard -- that's an awful lot to spend on a player who figures to be a healthy scratch come playoff time.

Unlike RFA Dan Carcillo and UFA Arron Asham, Shelley is not versatile enough to skate regular shifts and be moved around the lineup. He is also more expensive and older than Asham.

Considering the fact that the Flyers were already cap-strapped by the Meszaros acquisition and the raises given to Braydon Coburn and Leighton, my feeling is that this wasn't the best possible use of remaining cap room.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...etter/45/29151

Pretty spot on although I'm willing to give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt since it's only 8 hours into free agency.

SunMo

they continuously try to be smarter than the other teams with these early moves, it started with the Kimmo/Hartnell trade and it's gone on every year since.

Jody Shelly makes no sense whats so ever.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: SunMo on July 02, 2010, 08:49:16 AM
they continuously try to be smarter than the other teams with these early moves, it started with the Kimmo/Hartnell trade and it's gone on every year since.

Jody Shelly makes no sense whats so ever.

Yet both of those guys were key in the Flyers going to the Cup Finals. So I dunno...
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

SunMo

you're right, i didn't mean to say it was necessarily bad with them.  Kimmo has been great since he got here.  but it worked then and they've tried to be the smartest guys in the room ever since. 
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

rjs246

I absolutely do not understand the Jody Shelley thing. What the farg?
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

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