Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

[SunMo]

i love the "be awful for 10 years argument"

nobody is bad for long in the nfl with just mediocre drafting and talent evaluation.  the raiders, bills, etc are awful because they are awful top to bottom.  but all the sudden trading a choke artist quarterback means they won't make the playoffs for the next decade.

[ice grillin you]

mcnabb stinks, DLine stinks, LB's really stink, DB's stink
end of story

i dont really get the rest of you

true...which is even more reason he should be moved

[PhillyPhreak54]

Over the past few days, we've been sharing and reacting to the many reports regarding the status of Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, a process that was sparked when coach Andy Reid said on Tuesday that other teams are "entertaining us with offers" regarding McNabb. Several of the reports from others in the media are a bit inconsistent, to say the least.

Our only original reporting in this regard focused on the fact that a Rams source privately said there was "no truth" to the report of an imminent trade for McNabb, several hours before G.M. Billy Devaney went on the record with Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and said that the report was in fact "utterly ridiculous" and "absolutely false." (We also posted an uncorrborated tip that the Raiders were considering an offer of cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha for McNabb and cornerback Asante Samuel; the tip was partially corroborated by Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com.)

Now, we've got some more.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles are receiving offers from teams that have not been identified publicly at the request of the teams making the offers. This is happening for two reasons: (1) some of the teams have incumbent starting quarterbacks who would be confused, to say the least, if they learned that McNabb could be joining the club; and (2) none of the teams want fans or the media to know that they are courting McNabb, in the event that they fail to land him.

This doesn't explain the fact that the Bills, Rams, and Raiders have been named as potential trade partners. According to the source, however, the Eagles have disclosed to no one the names of the teams with whom they are or aren't talking.

We initially believed that Jeff McLane's erroneous report that McNabb could be a Ram by the end of the week was the Eagles themselves, who were floating a phony rumor in the hopes of sending a "speak now or forever hold your piece/peace" vibe to other interested teams. Based on our source, McLane apparently had a different source.

It's possible that McLane's source was McNabb himself, or agent Fletcher Smith. (McLane's subsequent report that McNabb prefers playing for the Vikings suggests he has a pipeline into the McNabb camp.) This approach by McNabb would allow him to push the issue to a head without pulling a Jay Cutler and openly demanding a trade.

The McLane report isn't the only nugget that might not reflect reality. ESPN's Sal Paolantonio says that no one is willing to offer more than a third-round pick. But as our source pointed out, "Has he talked to every team and have they told him their offer?"

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that McNabb told coach Andy Reid that he preferred staying put to joining the Bills or the Raiders, and McNabb's agent thereafter said that McNabb has said nothing to the team. Though it's possible that the agent is speaking with a sporked tongue, the discrepancy has largely been ignored.

Finally, the Associated Press reported that the Eagles want the 42nd pick or higher in the 2010 draft. (And, of course, the AP report was taken as gospel truth because the AP has never been wrong.) Said the source, "Does anyone really believe the Eagles would pick such a random number and draw a line in the sand?" We're told that something higher than this reported threshold already has been offered. The source believes that the "42 or higher" requirement was leaked by one or more other teams in order to frame the value -- and possibly to create local pressure on the Eagles, many of whose fans generally are anxious, to say the least, to see McNabb get run out of town.

As we understand it, the Eagles have received a variety of offers, with draft picks only and players only and players and picks. We're told that the Eagles have never placed an asking price on McNabb. Instead, they're doing exactly what we reported in early March that they'd do -- sitting back and waiting for the offers to come and evaluating them at the appropriate time.

As we also understand it, the Eagles soon will review the proposals and decide whether to pursue any of them.

Though we'll continue to post reports from other folks who follow the NFL for a living, it's important to keep this broader context in mind. We'll try to do so; we encourage you to do the same."

[Drunkmasterflex]

I read that earlier that is probably the best article that has been out there since this whole shteinstorm started. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

No link, no shoes, no service.

[Drunkmasterflex]

No link, no shoes, no service.

it is from profootballtalk.com

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Isn't that basically the TMZ of the NFL?

[Diomedes]

insofar as everyone in entertainment reads TMZ, yeah

[MDS]

im guessing one of those teams in the skins. now i would love that just for the media hype surrounding it but would those 2 teams really be willing to make a trade of this magnitude?

otherwise....maybe we're looking at seattle, miami, minuscule shot at the jets, kc, cinci and bmore. otherwise possibly teams have been mentioned.

[reese125]

explain to me how any of those teams you just mentioned would even remotely want mcnabb with their current qb situation and the system they run? Im all ears.

[MDS]

ok

dc - new gm and coach, idiot owner, maybe they dont think campbell can get it done and have a 4-5 year plan to win and figure mcnabb is the qb to do it
cinci- epic fail from palmer in the playoffs, silly management and ownership that might be willing to do that
jets- sb caliber defense, sanchez not good enough yet, mcnabb comes in and tutors him and they win
kc- cassel sucks but then again so does that team
bmore- sb caliber team but mediocre qb. mcnabb familiar with harbaugh.

out of all of those dc and bmore make the most sense. obviously bmore would be a more likely spot. its not like joe flacco is lighting up the world.

[reese125]

dc--eagles will not trade him to same division

cinci--palmer isnt going anywhere and is still their franchise qb, and younger than mcnabb

jets--1st rd pick on sanchez and took them deep into playoffs, not to mention they are did their experiment with favre--wont do it again

kc--way too much invested in cassel

bmore--flacco is their franchise qb, did incredible for a rookie, took a natural step back sophomore yr, but only because they had nothing on the outside to throw to beside a 40 yr old in Mason, and was injured majority of the season

and keep in mind, the offensive system ran is very important when taking in a veteran qb. favre even admitted he had the worst time with that jets playbook and was second guessing himself weekly

[ice grillin you]

why the farg would baltimore want mcnabb...flacco is better than mcnabb right now...forget the fact hes young

[rjs246]

My sources say New Orleans and Indy are dark horses.

[Father Demon]

i love the "be awful for 10 years argument"

nobody is bad for long in the nfl with just mediocre drafting and talent evaluation.  the raiders, bills, etc are awful because they are awful top to bottom.  but all the sudden trading a choke artist quarterback means they won't make the playoffs for the next decade.

I didn't say "be awful for 10 years" or say "won'tmake the playoffs for the next decade."  I said:

But, my opinion says that if McNabb is traded, the Eagles will not only NOT get to the Super Bowl in the next five (maybe ten) years, but  they won't even sniff the same winning percentage or number of championship games that they did with McNabb in charge of the field.  

which isn't far-fetched at all.  

In the past ten years, only three teams have not been to the playoffs (Buffalo, Houston, and Detroit), so of course it is very likely the Eagles get back to the playoffs during the next decade with or without McNabb.  Fourteen different teams have been to the Super Bowl, so at least mathematically it's about a 50-50 shot they return.  Seven different teams have won the Super Bowl during the decade.  If you scale that back to the past five years (as I mentioned), eight teams have made it, with four different teams winning it.  It's not way-out-there thinking that the Eagles don't get there again with a new quarterback.  Which is what I said.

Also, I said:

26 other teams wish they had a McNabb.

I didn't say they wish they had McNabb.  My inference was that there are 26 teams out there that wish they had a QB of his caliber that has taken the team to the playoffs more than every other NFL team but one.