Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

[NC_Eagle]

and jesus christ mcnabb has held the ball to long for 11 years...how can you be an eagle fan and not have seen that...its at the heart of why he cant run a west coast offense...its why his int rate is so low...because he cant/is unwilling to throw balls into coverage

This. The WCO is completely the wrong offense for McNabb's skills. Apparently Reid and Marty haven't realized this after 10 years so who expects a change? 5 is 'their guy'. Could McNabb have been more successful in another offensive style? I think it's possible, but we'll probably never know.

[ice grillin you]

This. The WCO is completely the wrong offense for McNabb's skills. Apparently Reid and Marty haven't realized this after 10 years so who expects a change? 5 is 'their guy'. Could McNabb have been more successful in another offensive style? I think it's possible, but we'll probably never know.

more successful would mean have won a superbowl?

i would contend he had ample opportunity to win one and if he had it in him to do so he would have

do i have major problems with andy reid...sure...but over the years having seen more than enough of each of them ive come around to the conclusion that the qb is more of a problem than the coach tho neither are even close to being fault free

[phattymatty]

i got so annoyed by donovan's air guitar routine before the game that i barely watched the game at all and i am happy about it.

[Rome]

to do it was bad enough.  to do it then come out and be so completely awful was even worse.

just a complete clown in all respects.

cut the cord, fat man.

[Munson]

What the hell makes anyone think Kevin Kolb will be successful/survive dropping back 45 times a game? Could you imagine him in that game on saturday? He woulda been carted off by half time.



The only, ONLY way this team ever wins is when the offense balances out.

in the first half saturday they threw 11 times and ran 7...they were down 27-7 at half

the quarterback not named vick could literally not complete passes

period end of story

stop making excuses


i ask again who has ever had one completion in the first half of ANY modern nfl game

McNabb was 2-6 in the first half, so I don't know where you're getting 11 passes from...unless 5 of those passes ended up with McNabb on his ass/running the ball.

Again, imagine Kolb in that game. He woulda been crushed.

[ice grillin you]

hypotheticals are cool...imagine cobb playing and throwing for 250 and a couple scores in the first half...see i can play to

or just imagine mcnabb having trouble completing simple passes...wait.....

[SunMo]

or just imagine mcnabb having trouble completing simple passes...wait.....

that one is really easy to imagine for some reason

[rjs246]

McNabb wasn't 2 of 6, Munson. Although I'm truly stunned that you got something so simple wrong.

That extra pass you're talking about, the only significant play of the half for the Eagles offense, definitely did not leave McNabb's fingers.

[ice grillin you]

imagine theres no timing patterns
no crossing routes too
no big game pressure
its easy to do

no coverage on deep routes
i wonder if you can
no need for rings or titles
no being a man
just playing the air guitar
attempting to moonwalk in the sand

you may say im a dreamer
im probably the only one...

[ice grillin you]

McNabb wasn't 2 of 6, Munson. Although I'm truly stunned that you got something so simple wrong.

That extra pass you're talking about, the only significant play of the half for the Eagles offense, definitely did not leave McNabb's fingers.

yeah but didnt you hear cobb would have completed no passes: advantage 5

[Drunkmasterflex]

I really don't see how people can defend McNabb at this point.  I said to some friends and family before the regular season finale if he really has turned over a new leaf we would find out in that game.  It was basically put up or shut up and well we all know the answer. 

It really is time to move on and I personally don't care if it is Kolb, Vick, or someone else. 

[ice grillin you]

no way id rather have vick but mcnabb gotta go

they traded anthony spencer (who terrorized them for the last two weeks) for cobb...the same cobb who like mcnabb is going into the last year of his deal...so to me this is the time right now to recoup something back in the cobb deal throw all your chips in the middle resign him long term and have him come into camp as the #1

the fear is that from seeing cobb in practice for the last four years they dont believe in him

after the mcnabb disasterous end and the situation with cobbs this is the perfect storm to finally end the donovan era

[reese125]

I think the most fascinating aspect to all of this is the fact that this guy has regressed in a big way, but yet there are still fans that are holding onto 2004.

the fact he lost to dallas 2 times like that created so much more hate for mcnabb than ever before. had he lost to the saints or the vikings first round I dont think it would be as bad as it is right now

[ice grillin you]

i dont think losing to dallas helped of course but it wasnt the tipping point

it was how he lost...complete ineptitiude...busing his young receivers after debacle #1 and dhani jonesin it before and saying they had a great season after debacle #2


had he thrown for 700 yards and six touchdowns in the two games and lost 31-27 and 30-24 he would def be getting heat but it would be the same ole same ole as opposed to the complete vitriol you hear now

[Munson]

McNabb wasn't 2 of 6, Munson. Although I'm truly stunned that you got something so simple wrong.

That extra pass you're talking about, the only significant play of the half for the Eagles offense, definitely did not leave McNabb's fingers.

That whole Weaver-fumble thing kind of counts as a completion, either that or the refs and the NFL owe the Eagles an apology.



And IGY, do you really think Kolb throws for 250 yards and 2 TDs getting harrased and hit the way McNabb was? Not a chance. McNabb had to escape from trouble so many times I was beggining to think he might actually be black.

Kolb would have been beaten and broken by the time the 2nd half ended.


And I'm laughing at everyone saying "stop defending McNabb"....No one is defending him! Just pointing out there are other troubles with this team....a few of them more pressing.