The Defense

Started by PhillyPhreak54, August 20, 2009, 11:13:00 PM

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smeags

so you're ok with the DT's ?
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

SD

They're fine. They've been stout against the run all season (Peterson got squat up the middle last night) and get the occasional sack. Don't get me wrong I'd love to have a beast like Suh but what they have is good for now.

Rome

Other than Killa & Samuel there isn't a single defensive starter I wouldn't kick to the curb.

Eagaholic

Wasn't it Samuel who let Webb stroll right by him into the EZ?

MMH

This defense certainly looks like half of them were drafted in or after the 6th round, if at all.

SD

Quote from: Eagaholic on December 29, 2010, 07:33:24 PM
Wasn't it Samuel who let Webb stroll right by him into the EZ?

He was blocked, the other two (I think it was Parker and Fokou) got juked bad

Don Ho

I still have visions of Foku and Parker doing their best Skipper and Gilligan impersonation on Webb's TD run.
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Tomahawk

Quote from: SD on December 29, 2010, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 29, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
For all the yawns Parker inspires, he is consistently productive. The D-Line isn't the problem to me, or not the biggest problem anyway. LB, S and CB all blow.

My list in order:

Cornerback
Tall rangy DE who can rush the passer and play the run
Strong Safety
LBs
All around depth

I'd like to add John Fox for d-coordinator after the Panthers let him go

Rome

It's not the coaching.   The players either suck or are middling.     You can get away with a few lousy players but not farging 9 out of 11.

SD

Quote from: SD on December 29, 2010, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 29, 2010, 07:33:24 PM
Wasn't it Samuel who let Webb stroll right by him into the EZ?

He was blocked, the other two (I think it was Parker and Fokou) got juked bad

They showed the Webb scramble TD this morning on sportsrise, Fokou got juked out of his shorts and Coleman came in late and missed just as bad. These guys don't square their bodies up to make a tackle for shtein.

SD

Quote from: Rome on December 30, 2010, 07:20:00 AM
It's not the coaching.   The players either suck or are middling.     You can get away with a few lousy players but not farging 9 out of 11.

I think it's both. Overall they need a new defensive philosophy...whether the DC is Fox/Singletary or whoever.

smeags

Quote from: SD on December 30, 2010, 09:52:07 AM
Quote from: Rome on December 30, 2010, 07:20:00 AM
It's not the coaching.   The players either suck or are middling.     You can get away with a few lousy players but not farging 9 out of 11.

I think it's both. Overall they need a new defensive philosophy...whether the DC is Fox/Singletary or whoever.

true and i still think an upgrade at DT is needed along with other things. sure they were good against the run but when have you seen any kind of real push by the DT's in the passing game. the qb just steps up in the pocket as the DE's fly by. the eagles need some kind of push in the middle. plus some better lb's. and a safety, and a cb.  :-\

bottom line is the eagles are running JJ's scheme with 1/4 the talent he had to work with but i wouldn't mind upgrading at DC. you just hope allen and graham come back ready to roll and the eagles do some good drafting on the defensive side of the ball.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

Eagaholic

Quote from: SD on December 30, 2010, 09:50:58 AM
Quote from: SD on December 29, 2010, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on December 29, 2010, 07:33:24 PM
Wasn't it Samuel who let Webb stroll right by him into the EZ?

He was blocked, the other two (I think it was Parker and Fokou) got juked bad

They showed the Webb scramble TD this morning on sportsrise, Fokou got juked out of his shorts and Coleman came in late and missed just as bad. These guys don't square their bodies up to make a tackle for shtein.

So it was just Samuel who taught Fokou and Coleman how to tackle

General_Failure

As Samuel's bank account shows, he's actually made a tackle or two.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Eagaholic

If Samuel got paid by the tackle he'd be shopping for clothes at kmart