2009 Flyers Offseason Thread

[SD_Eagle5]

When Pronger is skating around the Wachovia Center with the Stanley Cup raised over his head next year you guys are gonna look awfully silly.

And when he's on another team in 2 years and we're sitting in front of the tv during the draft with our thumbs up our asses till 2011 ( they don't have a 2nd round pick till then either) and Sbisa is a future star we're gonna look back at this trade and see what an idiot holmgren is. Washington farging taterskins of the nhl

[ice grillin you]

When Pronger is skating around the Wachovia Center with the Stanley Cup raised over his head next year you guys are gonna look awfully silly.

if pronger made the flyers a legit cup contender then the deal might be defensible...what is amazing to me is that they traded for the kind ff player that would exemplify going for it all in one year in a pronger and in the same offseason they get a 100% question mark at the most important position on the team...the two moves completely butt heads

[Geowhizzer]

Top 4 Defensemen:

Timmonen - Parent
Pronger - Coburn

[Rome]

Oh blah, blah, blah.  Both moves are extremely risky but they could also both pay off huge.  Give it a while to see what else they're going to do before you all start cannonballing off bridges.  That's all I'm saying.

[ice grillin you]

risk is worth it when its free in the case of the goalie

pronger risk is most certainly not worth it...even if pronger plays like he did last year flyers are no closer to the cup and 12 months older at his age means hes going to be less effective than last year and more injury prone with the wear and tear on his body...people with his mileage at his age dont improve

they also badly need talent up front before they can even sniff a cup...barring some sort of patrick roy playoff performance by emery

[Rome]

Players play at elite levels in the NHL into their 40's.  Pronger will be 35 and he's one of the best defensemen in the entire league.  I know they gave up a lot to get him (namely Sbisa) but Lupul was mediocre and the draft picks are hit or miss especially if they're picking at the bottom of the first round.

You're just being your usual panicking hyperbolic self by forecasting doom and gloom and that's fine.

I'll do the wait and see thing and you wring your hands into a puddle.

[Geowhizzer]

I think they paid way too much, but Pronger does address a big need for the Flyers.  Their defense became pussified because of the retirement of Hatcher and the addition of Carle.  The defense had no snarl, no real physical presence outside of (occasionally) Coburn.  Pronger definitely puts that snarl back on the d-line. 

And I will have to respectfully disagree with igy.  Pronger is to me, without doubt, a top-5 elite defensemen.

I think it mortgages too much of the future, especially with a gamble at goalie, but the Flyers are definitely a better team next year with Pronger than with Sbisa and Lupul.

[Geowhizzer]

Interesting divergence of opinion.

Flyersphans is blasting the trade.  Majority opinion is that it was a mistake.

PhillySportsForums is celebrating the trade.  Think it was a stellar move.

[ice grillin you]

i know plus minus has its problems but jesus if youre a defenseman on a good team and cant even be a plus you got problems...im not saying he sucks...my concern is what hes going to be with his age and body...but theres no way hes an elite defenseman anymore...an upgrade to the flyers yes but not near worth the price

[ice grillin you]

Interesting divergence of opinion.

Flyersphans is blasting the trade.  Majority opinion is that it was a mistake.

PhillySportsForums is celebrating the trade.  Think it was a stellar move.

im guessing the people that lean more towards being hockey fans will not like it...and sports fans in general will like it because the flyers got the big name

[Geowhizzer]

Interesting divergence of opinion.

Flyersphans is blasting the trade.  Majority opinion is that it was a mistake.

PhillySportsForums is celebrating the trade.  Think it was a stellar move.

im guessing the people that lean more towards being hockey fans will not like it...and sports fans in general will like it because the flyers got the big name

Actually PSF is largely a Flyers site.  They have forums for the other teams, but the Flyers is about 75% of their traffic.

[Geowhizzer]

In case anyone wants to peruse:

PSF:  http://www.phillysportsforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45925
FP:  http://www.flyersphans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125280

You may have to register to read the posts, and both sites have other threads on the trade.  These are the major ones.

[Seabiscuit36]

The problem is they have up way too much. shtein they traded more than what it cost the ducks 3 years ago to get pronger.  Should have thrown in another dman loke marshall or nothing at all. They gave up 4 1st rounders in essence for a guy who has one year left. Trade homer. 

[SD_Eagle5]

The problem is they have up way too much. shtein they traded more than what it cost the ducks 3 years ago to get pronger. 

That's the kicker

FP is unreadable right now, I know Geo said they're against the trade but I've never seen a bigger bunch of homers in my life. I'm sick to my stomach.

[ice grillin you]

thats why i refuse to go on any sites that are devoted to one team like that...its almost always strictly homer and even if not its way to many to tolerate

btw how are they against the trade but being homers?