Health Care Reform thread

[PhillyGirl]

Who is "your"?

farg you everyone knows what he meant except for you and your stupid grammar nazi bullshtein. Go suck Obama's cock you knob slobbin' asswhipe bitch.

Holy shtein, are you serious with this post? I am not even a fan of ATV, but this was way over the line.

Ha! I say something ignorant to a taterskin fan and you say it's over the 'line'. But, somebody like cardtrader can come here and have his family and children slandered and ripped apart with some of the most juvenile and ignorant posting I've ever seen and no one says a word. Your so called 'line' seems to move foward and backward depending upon who is doing the posting.

I never even saw that thread so I have no clue what you are talking about. I haven't been posting much in the past year.

[rjs246]

I just learned something new and interesting about Richard Nixon.

[rjs246]

Bob Dole makes sense too.

Congressional democrats need to start offing themselves when Nixon and Dole do a better job of presenting a case for Healthcare reform than they do.

[ATV]

^^ ^, I agree with both of them. I agree that Obama needs to step up and sculpt the bill. There are too many interests.

[shorebird]

Um, ok, so you found A doctor who is against healthcare reform. Meanwhile the nation's major medical associations are all for it.

The exception does not prove anything.

link?

[rjs246]

Typed 'healthcare reform AMA' into Google...

First three results:
AMA backs House health-care bill
AMA: Healthcare Reform Bill a 'Starting Point'
AMA backs House healthcare reform bill

The internet is hard.

[Rome]

The internet is hard.

Of course it is.  It's packed with lesbo milf porn.

[ATV]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jng4TnKqy6A&feature=player_embedded

[rjs246]

More unsolicited suggestions for President Obama on how to overcome the healthcare quagmire. (Warning, this comes from the super-leftist mag, Salon.)

A Rooseveltian or Trumanesque campaign speech, addressing the concerns of the American majority, invoking the heroic history of American reform and naming the enemy, practically writes itself:

"My fellow Americans, we say that healthcare is a right of all citizens. The other party says that it is a privilege for those who can afford it. If you agree with them that healthcare is a privilege, not a right, then vote for them. We would like to persuade you to join us, but if we can't, then we are going to defeat you.

"Decades ago our opponents tried to block Social Security and Medicare, using the same bogus arguments that they are using today against healthcare reform. They said Social Security and Medicare would bankrupt the country. They were wrong. Once we fix the cost inflation of our broken medical sector, with some minor tweaks Social Security and Medicare can be made solvent forever.

"Decades ago, our opponents said that Social Security and Medicare would turn the United States into a fascist or communist police state. They were wrong then and they are wrong now. And not only are they wrong, they are hypocritical. Many of our opponents who claim absurdly that universal healthcare will bring tyranny to the U.S. have defended some of the greatest assaults on civil liberties and the rule of law in American history during the previous administration.

"They can draw a Hitler mustache on me. They can draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa, for all I care. They are wrong and we are going to defeat them.

"We won the elections and we are the majority. We would like to build the biggest consensus possible, but progress is more important than consensus. Our job is to help the American people, not split the difference between right and wrong by giving a veto to the party that the American people have rejected.
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"In this fight, as in earlier struggles, powerful interests are opposed to the needs of the people. In the 19th century, we the people defeated the Southern slave owners, freed the slaves and saved the nation. In the 20th century, while fighting alongside many other nations to save the world from militarism and totalitarianism, we the people here at home tamed the corporations for a generation and fought segregation based on race, gender and, more recently, sexual orientation.

"Today the campaign for affordable healthcare as a right, not a privilege, is opposed by powerful interests in the medical and insurance industries. They seek to deceive and confuse you. And they seek to bribe or intimidate your elected representatives into serving their will rather than the needs of the public.

"They may win this battle. They may win the next. But we will never stop fighting for the needs of the many against the greed of the few. For more than 200 years, from the time we threw off the tyranny of the British empire and established our republic, we have worked to realize the spirit of '76 on this continent and in the world beyond. The enemies of progress have money on their side. We have history on ours."

[rjs246]

Interesting piece.

[ATV]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPrYviZtVrs&feature=player_embedded

You know what I think a lot of this whole health care comes down to? There are a lot of people out there who aren't against the idea of helping out other people like single mothers, like the one above in the town hall. Did you hear the people in the audience stand up for her after their emotional strings were pulled? God forbid, though, if this woman with the child in the video was black and some of their tax dollars were going toward helping HER out. Because if she were black she would likely just be another one of those undeserving leeches on society, one of those black baby factories. Of course none of these people would admit to this. Heck, most of them wouldn't even be able to recognize or admit this to themselves.

[ATV]

Another party crash for Wealth Care. Note how the people at these events are totally clueless. They literally don't get it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me3VnCficDA&feature=player_embedded

[ATV]

From the above, from the people who love Fox "News" and were very happy with our last President...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKBa9K_vAm8&feature=player_embedded

[fansince61]

From the above, from the people who love Fox "News" and were very happy with our last President...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKBa9K_vAm8&feature=player_embedded

Bush was universally hated.  His own party hated him the last four years but the "Repub. talking heads" can't afford to admit it.  Until they do they will keep getting the schtein kicked out of them at the poles

[ATV]

Even at the worst there were still 20-30% of facist die-hards who would support Bush no matter what. Bush's numbers bever dropped below this. If you watch the video then you're looking at them.