The Eagles Fire Cripples & Eat Babies!

[rjs246]

That's definitely not the last thing you want to hear or think about you big exaggerator.

[PhillyPhreak54]

thats all christina and to a certain extent jeffy....they are great with charities and seem to be nice people


which makes the employment of banner inc. all the more puzzling

Lurie also seems to be staying put on the coaches pension plan madness that is developing now. No mention of the Eagles as a team who has stiffed the coaches or are planning to.

[ice grillin you]

thats all christina and to a certain extent jeffy....they are great with charities and seem to be nice people


which makes the employment of banner inc. all the more puzzling

Lurie also seems to be staying put on the coaches pension plan madness that is developing now. No mention of the Eagles as a team who has stiffed the coaches or are planning to.

what is this all about...ive heard nothing of it

[rjs246]

Without knowing a thing about it, it sounds like more incentive for teams to keep hiring the same old recycled coaches over and over and over...

[General_Failure]

Good thing Jim Johnson decided to coach until he drops dead.

[PhillyPhreak54]

thats all christina and to a certain extent jeffy....they are great with charities and seem to be nice people


which makes the employment of banner inc. all the more puzzling

Lurie also seems to be staying put on the coaches pension plan madness that is developing now. No mention of the Eagles as a team who has stiffed the coaches or are planning to.

what is this all about...ive heard nothing of it

Source: "There's No Doubt" The NFL Is Risking A Coaches Union
Posted by Mike Florio on May 7, 2009, 12:54 p.m.

In response to stories regarding the decision to allow teams to opt out of the league-run pension plan — and the decision of some teams to do just that — we suggested earlier today that this controversy could prompt the league's coaches to finally unionize.

As it currently exists, the NFL Coaches Association is just that:  An association.  It's not a union, and it has no ability to compel management to bargain regarding terms and conditions of employment.

The coaches long have resisted full-blown unionization, primarily out of concern that those who openly support the effort could be squandering their opportunities for advancement to one of the 32 jobs they all covet.

But the issue with the pension plan presto-change-o could provide the tipping point.

"There's no doubt" that the owners are risking an effort by the coaches to form a union, one league source told us.

The question ultimately will be whether enough of the teams do enough to motivate the coaches first to lay the foundation to force a union vote and then to cast a ballot in favor of the union.

For now, only nine of the teams have decided to pull out of the pension plan:  the 49ers, Saints, Cardinals, Bills, Falcons, Cowboys, Texans, Jaguars, and Patriots.  Whether that's enough to trigger widespread rancor remains to be seen.

But, as to the coaches of the affected teams, the rancor already is there.  We've heard of at least one team whose assistant coaches walked off the job earlier this week, and later returned.  Elsewhere, coaches are meeting privately to plot strategy.

As one source explained it, the timing of the decision to make these changes to the pension plan reflects the league's general brilliance.  In response to assistant coaches carping about changes to pension plans that fewer and fewer American workers still enjoy, plenty of people will respond by advising the assistant coaches to be thankful they have jobs in the current economy.

And the league's response to possible resignations very well might be this:  "If you want to quit, quit.  We'll replace you in a heartbeat."

Another source thinks that the league could see union-organizing efforts not only from coaches, but also from scouts and related front-office personnel, many of whom work long hours for relatively modest salaries.

So stay tuned on this one.  It won't affect what we see on the football field in September, but it definitely could have a huge impact on the manner in which the NFL does business.

Could Pension Plan Changes Trigger Unionization Of Coaches?
Posted by Mike Florio on May 7, 2009, 5:42 a.m.

Like the NFL's players, the NFL's coaches have an "association."  Unlike the NFL's players, the NFL's coaches don't have a true union.

Yet.

Amid growing consternation regarding changes some teams are making in the wake of a March decision to allow the individual franchises to opt out of the league-run pension plan, unionization of the assistant coaches represents one of the potential logical outcomes.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported Tuesday night, and reiterated Wednesday night, that veteran Colts offensive line coach Howard Mudd plans to retire due to the situation, and that veteran Colts offensive coordinator Tom Moore could be next.

Also, Clark Judge of CBSSports.com reports that a memo circulated among coaches on Wednesday lists the teams that already have decided to pull out of the league-run pension plan:  the 49ers, Saints, Cardinals, Bills, Falcons, Cowboys, Texans, and Patriots.  (Judge points out that, per Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com, the Jaguars will follow suit.)

Judge also reports that 17 of the teams have decided to keep their current plans in place, and that seven (the Dolphins, Vikings, Seahawks, Rams, Bengals, and Bucs) are contemplating the situation.

Judge says that one team's assistant coaches are contemplating a full-squad resignaton.  Another team's assistants might walk out for a day.

That's the kind of talk that reflects the kind of thinking that results in the formation of the kind of thing known under federal law as a union.

There's a belief that the adjustment to the pension plans constitutes one piece of the league's broader effort to persuade the NFLPA that, financially, the league isn't thriving.  The obvious goal?  To persuade the players that the current labor deal must change.

As we previously have pointed out, the broader strategy to plan for a potential work stoppage in 2011 also includes contracts for assistant coaches that primarily if not uniformly expire after the 2010 season, putting assistant coaches at risk of having no income while the teams and the players work out their differences.

So, by potentially making the assistant coaches pawns in a broader effort to do battle with the players' union, the league could be forced ultimately to deal with yet another union representing a subset of its employees.

[SD_Eagle5]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Best_organizations_Eagles_Lurie_rank_4th.html

Saturday, May 9, 2009
Best organizations: Eagles, Lurie rank 4th 
An item we've been meaning to get to for a few weeks here at MTC.

Robert Boland of the National Football Post ranked the best and worst organizations in the NFL.

The rankings are not based only on winning, or only on financial success, but rather what Boland calls "organizational symmetry."

Boland explains organizational symmetry as this:

It is the recognition that running a professional sports team has three distinct dimensions that are not always interrelated and are sometimes actually in conflict. The three dimensions involved in running a professional sports team are maximizing revenue (business), managing the sports product (team) and maintaining a compact with the customers (fans).

So the obvious question is: Where do the Eagles rank?

Boland has Jeffrey Lurie and the Birds fourth, behind the Steelers, Giants and Patriots, three teams that have won Super Bowls this decade.

The Eagles are the only team in the top 10 that has not won a Super Bowl since 1996.

Here's Boland's justification of the No. 4 ranking:

These are the good old days for Eagles fans. And while the uniforms don't hold a candle to the old Bednarik-issue green and silver ones, the Eagles organization has been one of the most innovative in the NFL for a decade.  It is also a decade that has seen Philadelphia build a successful new stadium and training complex and show incredible organizational discipline behind president Joe Banner, GM Tom Heckert and coach Andy Reid.

Two innovations the Eagles can take credit for are the practice of successfully extending young players' contracts before they're eligible for free agency, establishing low cost roster stability, and feasting off the free-agent mistakes other teams have made in overvaluing players, especially Eagles players. While the Eagles have no championships to show for Lurie's tenure, they have an enviable run and organizational stability.

So what do you think? Do you agree with Boland's ranking for the Birds?

Click here for the complete list.

[Diomedes]

Saturday, May 9, 2009
Best organizations: Eagles, Lurie rank 4th 
An item we've been meaning to get to for a few weeks here at MTC.

Robert Boland of the National Football Post ranked the best and worst organizations in the NFL.

The rankings are not based only on winning, or only on financial success, but rather what Boland calls "organizational symmetry."

Boland explains organizational symmetry as this:

It is the recognition that running a professional sports team has three distinct dimensions that are not always interrelated and are sometimes actually in conflict. The three dimensions involved in running a professional sports team are maximizing revenue (business), managing the sports product (team) and maintaining a compact with the customers (fans).

So the obvious question is: Where do the Eagles rank?

Boland has Jeffrey Lurie and the Birds fourth, behind the Steelers, Giants and Patriots, three teams that have won Super Bowls this decade.

The Eagles are the only team in the top 10 that has not won a Super Bowl ever.

Here's Boland's justification of the No. 4 ranking:

These are the good old days for Eagles fans. And while the uniforms don't hold a candle to the old Bednarik-issue green and silver ones, the Eagles organization has been one of the most innovative in the NFL for a decade.  It is also a decade that has seen Philadelphia build a successful new stadium and training complex and show incredible organizational discipline behind president Joe Banner, GM Tom Heckert and coach Andy Reid.

Two innovations the Eagles can take credit for are the practice of successfully extending young players' contracts before they're eligible for free agency, establishing low cost roster stability, and feasting off the free-agent mistakes other teams have made in overvaluing players, especially Eagles players. While the Eagles have no championships to show for Lurie's tenure, they have an enviable run and organizational stability.

So what do you think? Do you agree with Boland's ranking for the Birds?

Click here for the complete list.

ftfy

[Feva]

Oh boy...

[ice grillin you]

1960 is the new 1983

[Rome]

Championships won prior to 1966 don't count despite the fact that the NFL's been in existence since 1920 and the Eagles have had a franchise since 1933.

[General_Failure]

Either way, the Eagles haven't won shtein in my lifetime.

[Tomahawk]

Either way, the Eagles haven't won shtein in my lifetime.

It's not their fault you're too young

[General_Failure]

I yanked a grey hair out of my beard yesterday.

[Diomedes]

Huh, never pegged you for superficial vanity.