Brian Dawkins, ex-Eagle

Started by The BIGSTUD, February 27, 2009, 04:51:33 PM

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shorebird

Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 01, 2009, 01:42:28 PM
So your saying that even though the team has nearly 50 million under the cap and we all know for sure they are not going to go after any FA who would command a huge salary, the money could be better spent? On what exactly?

QuoteThey did part with a chunk of it to land offensive lineman Stacy Andrews, brother of right guard Shawn Andrews, and it's still a long way to the first week in September. That long road could include any combination of additional free-agent signings, trades, surprise draft picks, whatever the front office feels it might take to restore a roster that was inconsistent for much of last season. Getting it right this time would be nice.

Look, I've watched Darth his whole career and don't like the idea of him not being an Eagle anymore than anyone else here. But the reality is that the FO doesn't think he's worth what the Bronco's offered him. Christ, quit bitchin' and whining and wish him well. He'll always be an Eagle in my mind anyway.




ice grillin you

Quote from: shorebird on March 01, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
Look, I've watched Darth his whole career and don't like the idea of him not being an Eagle anymore than anyone else here. But the reality is that the FO doesn't think he's worth what the Bronco's offered him. Christ, quit bitchin' and whining and wish him well. He'll always be an Eagle in my mind anyway.

again you just dont get it...no one is worried that hes somehow not going to be an eagle anymore...that ludicrous and i dont even know why you say that to be honest...for the last time this isnt about dawkins and this isnt about football its about the front office and their utter lack of respect for the franchise and the fans...theres been a war btwn joe banner and the fanbase for years and this is the biggest and most uneccessary salvo yet
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

mpmcgraw

Who farging cares you flags. 

WAH joe banner doesnt care what i think.  Go farg yourself. 

It doesn't hurt the team. you know it, so you cant call them idiots,so your just crying about and stomping your feet.  The fact that mommy and daddy don't care about your temper tantrum is just making you bash your head against the wall for attention. 

shorebird

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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2009, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: shorebird on March 01, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
Look, I've watched Darth his whole career and don't like the idea of him not being an Eagle anymore than anyone else here. But the reality is that the FO doesn't think he's worth what the Bronco's offered him. Christ, quit bitchin' and whining and wish him well. He'll always be an Eagle in my mind anyway.

again you just dont get it...no one is worried that hes somehow not going to be an eagle anymore...that ludicrous and i dont even know why you say that to be honest...for the last time this isnt about dawkins and this isnt about football its about the front office and their utter lack of respect for the franchise and the fans...theres been a war btwn joe banner and the fanbase for years and this is the biggest and most uneccessary salvo yet

I get that it's all about you hating the front office. They made a business decision, and if you look at it unbiased, it was the right one. Also, you're living in your own little world if you think that Banner is at war with the fans and the only reason he didn't sign Darth was because of a lack of respect for the fans and the franchise. He doesn't care what you or I think, for sure, but a lack of respect is ridiculous. The same thing happens all over the NFL, team stars finishing their careers elsewhere. Christ, even Joe Montana and Johnny Unitas finished their careers elsewere.

Please, get over yourself.

Magical_Retard

Quote from: shorebird on March 01, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 01, 2009, 01:42:28 PM
So your saying that even though the team has nearly 50 million under the cap and we all know for sure they are not going to go after any FA who would command a huge salary, the money could be better spent? On what exactly?

QuoteThey did part with a chunk of it to land offensive lineman Stacy Andrews, brother of right guard Shawn Andrews, and it's still a long way to the first week in September. That long road could include any combination of additional free-agent signings, trades, surprise draft picks, whatever the front office feels it might take to restore a roster that was inconsistent for much of last season. Getting it right this time would be nice.

Look, I've watched Darth his whole career and don't like the idea of him not being an Eagle anymore than anyone else here. But the reality is that the FO doesn't think he's worth what the Bronco's offered him. Christ, quit bitchin' and whining and wish him well. He'll always be an Eagle in my mind anyway.





I am used to players I have grown to really like being cut or leaving (Duce for one) so I am not one of those fans who is going to claim to stop watching games or being a fan. I am just saying this was more about money and age than about performance. Dawkins has not slipped to the point where he was the reason the defense was not the best. The real deficiency on defense is the lack of a pass rush outside of a blitz. In fact most of the time Dawkins was "exposed" was when everyone went in on a blitz and Dawkins is left one on one to cover a guy like Burress or Fitz. You think Demps or whoever else they draft would be any better in that situation?

Hopefully the FO is right and Dawkins has so deteriorated in a matter of a month that he will be benched by week 2. I just don't buy it. He was one of the best players on a very good defense in the final 2 months and now the FO will have you believe he sucks and is not worth keeping. Why even offer him a contract then? What if he took it? You still start him no?
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

PhillyPhreak54

Letting Dawk go was the wrong move on many levels.

They have the money and the man can still play!

mpmcgraw

Demps>Dawk in 09. 

BOOK IT

MadMarchHare

He can't play at his previous level.  Giving Dawk a 5 year deal was just silly.  The way he plays, he's going to be on the field at 40?  Horseshtein.

And making this an us v. them argument is even sillier.  He wanted a big contract for his twilight, the Eagles fairly and rightfully thought they could do better.  This is really a story?  Who farging cares?
Anyone but Reid.

SD_Eagle5

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/Final_Thoughts_on_Dawk.html

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Dawk: Thanks to Fans

The lengthy pauses had nothing to do with the cell phone service. Brian Dawkins was in tears Sunday, when he responded to a request from the Daily News to talk to the fans of Philadelphia.

"I've just got to thank them. For so many years, we obviously connected on a very deep basis," Dawkins said the day after he left his only NFL home for 13 seasons to sign with the Denver Broncos. "For so many years, they've allowed me to come into their living rooms, to laugh with them, to party with them, to celebrate with them, to cry with 'em through tough losses, to bleed with them. I just really appreciate the way they accepted me, a little safety from Clemson."

Asked about the fact that the Broncos are scheduled to visit the Eagles this season, at a yet-to-be-determined date, Dawkins was overcome with emotion. "Whew," he said. "It's tough. This is not just business for me. I never thought that this would happen this way. I thought the only time I would shed tears in an interview would be because of my retirement from the Eagles, not like this."

Dawkins would not address what the Birds offered to keep him here. Dawkins, 35, reportedly will make more than $9 million guaranteed in the first two years of the reported five-year, $17 million deal he signed in Denver.

"I want to do this the right way," he said.

The day after, it would not be stretching to say Dawk sounded like he had regrets -- buyer's remorse, at the very least.

"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."

Then he paused again, and excused himself.

Rome

I won't miss his farging blubbering, that's for sure.

Jesus...

Don Ho

Would have liked to have seen some of that blubbering while he was hoisting the Lombardi trophy.
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Magical_Retard

Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 01, 2009, 03:43:51 PM
He can't play at his previous level.  Giving Dawk a 5 year deal was just silly.  The way he plays, he's going to be on the field at 40?  Horseshtein.

And making this an us v. them argument is even sillier.  He wanted a big contract for his twilight, the Eagles fairly and rightfully thought they could do better.  This is really a story?  Who farging cares?

You do realize its a 2 yr deal basically? 2 yrs 9 million is a big contract?
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

ice grillin you

Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 01, 2009, 06:23:46 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 01, 2009, 03:43:51 PM
He can't play at his previous level.  Giving Dawk a 5 year deal was just silly.  The way he plays, he's going to be on the field at 40?  Horseshtein.

And making this an us v. them argument is even sillier.  He wanted a big contract for his twilight, the Eagles fairly and rightfully thought they could do better.  This is really a story?  Who farging cares?

You do realize its a 2 yr deal basically? 2 yrs 9 million is a big contract?

he has no clue...a lot of people have no clue what any of this is all about...banners swirly lolipop is a powerful thing
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Father Demon

I love Dawk as much as the next guy, but this room is full of a lot of whining bitches, led by the Queen Bitch, IGY.

IGY loves to point at the FO and tell us how much they hate us and want nothing more than to alienate and infuriate us.  The fact is this is a decision that was made by both sides.  Dawk wanted money, and someone else gave it.  IGY's trash and slop that the FO should pay anything necessary to keep Dawk is worthless noise.  No wonder you're a socialist - you suck at capitalism.

Here, I'll help you out and save you the key strokes:

I don't get it.  I'm a money grubbing Republican who doesn't mind shteinting on the little people.  And how could I even give a rat's ass because I live in St. Louis - farging Middle American piece of shtein country-bred white boy.
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

ice grillin you

wow that was scarily on point....couldnt have said it better myself...MA eagle fans that arent four for four guys should not be speaking on the effect things like this have
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous