Brian Dawkins, ex-Eagle

[General_Failure]

You don't make the face of your franchise sit on the bench.

he wouldnt have sat on the bench...he would have played and been as good as any replacement they are going to have...BUT...you let the face of your franchise sit on the bench in an eagle jersey before you let him play for the friggin denver broncos

^^^The motherfarging truth right there^^^

Look at all the shtein the team got for putting Lito on the bench, and nobody likes Lito. This was a no-win unless Dawkins got to

1. Retire as an Eagle
2. Start the entire season

Putting him on the bench would be

1. A slap in the face to
   a. Dawkins
   b. The fans
   c. Everyone else on the team
2. An attempt to motivate the other players, which is what Dawkins was supposed to do
3. One more sign that Dawkins should have retired already

Yeah, fine, Dawkins was the emotional leader of the defense. And like I already said, if last season was the best performance he could get out of them, they should all be ashamed. Replace them all.

[Feva]

you really dont see a difference btwn letting jeremiah trotter go and being 40 miliion under ths cap and letting brian dawkins go?

When they let Trotter go, he could still play. He had led the team in tackles and was a major force.

And so can Dawkins.  To let some of you around here tell it, he was out there with a walker or some shtein. He was still this team's fiercest hitter... one of, if not the best run supporting DB's on the team and was really a liablity coverage wise when asked to cover a WR one on one.  That's on coaching not to put him in those spots.

I know it's become "the truth" that he was just terrible on the field most of the year, but that shtein ain't the case.

I disagree. He was at the point were he didn't even try to wrap up when he tackled and was missing half the time. To use your own words, he was terrible on the field most of the year. He made maybe three or four plays all year that I remember. You can blame the play calling all you want, the fact is he is a shell of his former self, and anyone who thinks he should have been overpaid just so you could see him in an Eagles uniform next year needs to stop friggen' whining.

Clueless.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I am posting this link just to make the whiny bitches bitch some more, as the Eagles are already working the positive Demps spin harder than Feva works the vagine.

Demps Learned A Lot From Dawkins


Quintin Demps was caught off-guard like a lot of Eagles fans. He surely didn't envision his teammate from last season, Brian Dawkins, to be in a different uniform in 2009.

"I didn't believe it at first. I was like, 'Wow.' I just thought for sure that he would end his career as an Eagle ... I was stunned by it," Demps said from his home in San Antonio on Saturday after learning that Dawkins signed a five-year deal with Denver.

Demps was a fourth-round draft pick out of Texas-El Paso in 2008. He finished his college career with 17 interceptions which ranked second in school and conference history. As a rookie, Demps made his biggest contribution as an explosive kickoff returner averaging 25.3 yards per return. He had two returns of 60 yards-or-more including a 100-yard gain that was the longest by a rookie in franchise history. It was the first kickoff return for a touchdown by any Eagle since 2001.

As the season progressed, Demps became more and more involved in the defense. By the end of the season, Demps was utilized as part of a three-safety package that helped the Eagles defend the run better. Demps' range and ability to cover allowed him to line up opposite a receiver in these sets. He had nine tackles and a sack in the regular season, but 11 tackles in the three playoff games which included a start against the Vikings.

"I just played with a chip on my shoulder," Demps said. "I feel like I should have went higher in the draft. And until I leave the league, I'm going to play with that chip on my shoulder every year. It was great. I got my feet wet. The game started to slow down for me. It was a great opportunity."

But Demps' season didn't end the way he or Eagles fans wanted it to. In the NFC Championship game loss to Arizona, Demps was responsible for covering Larry Fitzgerald on a 62-yard touchdown pass. Demps also committed a personal foul when he leveled quarterback Kurt Warner way after he threw the ball. That penalty eventually resulted in an end-of-the-half field goal.

"I was hurt. I really was hurt," Demps said. "I feel like we could have played better. I feel like I should have played better. I'm just disappointed about it."

After one season, Demps could be called upon to be a starter in 2009. Currently, Demps and Quintin Mikell are the only safeties on the Eagles roster. And if Demps is presented with the opportunity to win a starting job, he wants to make the most of it.

"We knew (Dawkins leaving) was going to happen eventually," Demps said. "I'm going to take the opportunity and run with it."

That's why Demps will return to Philadelphia later this week to begin preparing for the 2009 season. He's already started to work out. Demps wants to take everything he learned from Dawkins and put it to good use.

"I learned that you don't have to lead by rah rah. You can lead by example," Demps said. "You got to have passion to play this game, but this is a business at the same time. You have to have love for the game. I was only here for one year and I saw how much of a leader he was. It's going to be crazy."

[Rome]

Watched the sixers game at my buddies house lastnight, channel 6 news was coming on and I said despite everything going on in Philly, like we're supposed to get a shteinload of snow, dead cops, economy is horrible, flower show, whatever, I guarantee they open with a story then say "But the big news tonight, Brian Dawkins is no longer an Eagle" sure enough....

THE HORROR!

[ice grillin you]

you really dont see a difference btwn letting jeremiah trotter go and being 40 miliion under ths cap and letting brian dawkins go?

When they let Trotter go, he could still play. He had led the team in tackles and was a major force.

And so can Dawkins.  To let some of you around here tell it, he was out there with a walker or some shtein. He was still this team's fiercest hitter... one of, if not the best run supporting DB's on the team and was really a liablity coverage wise when asked to cover a WR one on one.  That's on coaching not to put him in those spots.

I know it's become "the truth" that he was just terrible on the field most of the year, but that shtein ain't the case.

I disagree. He was at the point were he didn't even try to wrap up when he tackled and was missing half the time. To use your own words, he was terrible on the field most of the year. He made maybe three or four plays all year that I remember. You can blame the play calling all you want, the fact is he is a shell of his former self, and anyone who thinks he should have been overpaid just so you could see him in an Eagles uniform next year needs to stop friggen' whining.

i dont really care that dawkins the player is gone as he clearly is on the way down and im excited to see demps if that the direction they go in...but denver seems to have no problem paying him to play for a year or two more and letting him tutor their young guys on how to play the game...and as much as dawk has slipped can you even come close to saying his replacement will be better than him next year...of course you cant...even the biggest FO homers like FF cant put a positive spin on this one

and ill ask you the same thing i ask easy...why do you care so much about jeffrey luries money...how does it effect you in the slightest if dawk is paid 7 8 9 10 mil over the next two years

[SD_Eagle5]

What makes this deal shteintier is the $7.5 million in guaranteed money can be spread out through the 5 years of the life of the contract so his cap hit would be like $3 million the next two seasons.

[ice grillin you]

yep...the money is 100% irrelevant in this whole scenario...he got paid peanuts...and again the eagles ccant come close to hitting their cap celing if their life depended on it they have so much money...and all signs point to there being no cap next year...all nfl cash these days is monopoly money

[Seabiscuit36]

Did Lurie lose his ass in the stockmarket and he cant spend?  I dont understand why they would have this much available cap room

[shorebird]

It doens't affect me directly, but if the money is better spent elsewere how can anyone argue? As I said before, everyone who thinks this front office should overpay him, and thats what Denver is doing even by igy's standards, needs to stop bitching because it ain't going to happen with Darth, or any other player. And really, all Demps has to do is wrap up while tackling to preform better than Darth did last year, and anyone who thinks he's not finished are just infactuated with the legend.

Besides, no one knows for sure what is going to happen from here on out. This move could be justified later.

yep...the money is 100% irrelevant in this whole scenario...he got paid peanuts

If he was paid peanuts then why did you post before that he is being overpaid?

[hunt]

i'm over it.  now sign a vet safety for depth & it's all good.

[ice grillin you]

It doens't affect me directly, but if the money is better spent elsewere how can anyone argue? As I said before, everyone who thinks this front office should overpay him, and thats what Denver is doing even by igy's standards, needs to stop bitching because it ain't going to happen with Darth, or any other player. And really, all Demps has to do is wrap up while tackling to preform better than Darth did last year, and anyone who thinks he's not finished are just infactuated with the legend.

Besides, no one knows for sure what is going to happen from here on out. This move could be justified later.

yep...the money is 100% irrelevant in this whole scenario...he got paid peanuts

never said he was overpaid...i think youre referring to a poast i made giving easy a hard time and was obviously made in jest...its impossible to overpay a player when you have more money than you could possibly ever spend...when and if the salary cap ever becomes real in the nfl then ill complain about "overpaying" players but with the cap being raised to ridiculously high levels and a probable uncapped year next year we are farther away from that than ever

and even with all that said 3.5+ mil a year for two years for dawk cannot be considered overpaying....even on the money grubbing FF pay scale

If he was paid peanuts then why did you post before that he is being overpaid?

[Magical_Retard]

So your saying that even though the team has nearly 50 million under the cap and we all know for sure they are not going to go after any FA who would command a huge salary, the money could be better spent? On what exactly?

I'll say it again...for all the flack JJ and Snyder receive, and rightfully so, they at least spend their money. Yeah they have no idea on who and they could really use personnel ppl who have control over who to sign, but these owners are never shy about spending money and never are in cap trouble. Yet the team with nearly 50 million could not spare a few in case something better came along and they needed to spend there.

For all the crap we hear about the cap and how much the Eagles are in great shape they have won nothing and while the Cowboys and taterskins keep failing and spending they are not in sort of imaginary cap hell from which they can not dig out from.

[BigEd76]

Bob Ford

He tells the truth.  Burn him?

[shorebird]

Bob Ford says it best.

Brian Dawkins won't be ending his career as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles because that is the decision he made. If you want to castigate the Eagles for making a business decision, that's fine, but remember that Dawkins made one, too.

It will be a popular argument that the Eagles forced Dawkins out of town with a low-ball offer, one that was insulting for a seven-time Pro Bowl player. More accurately, Denver gave Dawkins a contract offer that, if he plays only one season, will make him among the highest-paid safeties in the NFL for that season.

[ice grillin you]

yup he pretty much summed it up perfectly....

What actually happened is that the Eagles gave the 35-year-old free-agent safety a rough idea of the contract they would offer. He went out and solicited a better offer - a much better offer - and he took it.