Eagles 2009 Draft Thread

[ice grillin you]

except the team that wins the 2010 superbowl

what are you a taterskin fan?

[Kenzinger]

except the team that wins the 2010 superbowl

what are you a taterskin fan?

I honestly think this team could win a Super Bowl in 2010, assuming a few things go right for them.

You might like rooting for the taterskins - Dan Snyder signs the biggest ticket FA on the market almost every year.

[ice grillin you]

hes also offseason champ every year which seems to mean a lot to you

of course the eagles could win the superbowl next year...so could 15 other teams..im not even sure what that means

[Sgt PSN]

to be fair you can make the argument that boldin would be less effective were he doubled on every play...fitz takes a lot of heat off him

that said hed still be great and if the eagles had him they would probably be favorites to win the superbowl

to be fair you can make the argument that boldin would be less effective were he doubled on every play...fitz takes a lot of heat off him

No. As Sarge said, Boldin was setting records before they got Fitzgerald. Boldin probably sees his own share of double coverage too, taking a lot of heat of Fitz

6 one way, half dozen the other.  

would boldin attract double teams in philly?  yes.  would it affect his individual numbers?  perhaps.  but if his individual stats decrease, then that means that you should see an increase in from curtis, jackson, etc.  

i think boldin is good enough to beat double coverage at least half of the time.  so the other half when he can't, you've got curtis and jackson either one on one or finding a soft spot in the zone.  

also, don't forget that every defense that goes up against the eagles is already keyed in on brian westbrook.  a guy who lines up 7 yards behind the los is the reason that the eagles passing game is as "good" as it is to begin with.  so imagine if a defense had to not only account for him, but also worry about a guy who has a 7 yard head start and is running much deeper routes.  

all in all, boldin makes the team significantly better, immediately.  as much as i love maclin and i'm glad that the eagles were able to grab him, i can't say for certain that he would have the same impact.  

[ice grillin you]

mack will never ever be as good as boldin much less next year

the only way youd rather have mack than boldin is if youre fixated on the 2012 or 2013 season when boldins play has declined significantly and mack (if he is even playing) might be better

[Sgt PSN]

Replacing the Tackles only means they got younger, not automatically better. The guys they picked up are potential pro bowlers but not givens considering they both had bad seasons this past season and the guys they are replacing anchored a OLINE that allowed the 2nd fewest sacks in Eagles history. At best thats a wash so if anything they removed two tackles and replaced them with 2 possible capable tackles. Same with safety. The only move they made in the offseason, in terms of FAs, that actually makes the team better than what it was when they lost to the Cards, is picking up Weaver. All other moves have been to replace pro bowl level players with potential pro bowl level players who are automatically considered better because of age.

this.  especially the last part i put in bold.  the eagles have a proven history of using the offseason as a means to sustain, rather than improve.   the only exception was 2004 when they actually made moves in an attempt to legitimately improve 2 key weaknesses for the team.  wr with to and de with kearse.  

result?  super bowl.  

every other offseason, the front office only replaces 2 types of players.  old and frustrated.  and they only replace them with players of equal talent or potential.  addressing the fullback position this year is the first time since 2004 that this team has gone out and brought in a proven veteran player in an attempt at actually upgrading a position on the team.  every other move they make is to sustain......which takes me back to the original statement i've been making in this and other threads.  

the eagles are not interested in winning super bowls.  they are interested in spending the minimum amount of money necessary to make the playoffs every year and then hope for the best.  

[Kenzinger]

hes also offseason champ every year which seems to mean a lot to you

of course the eagles could win the superbowl next year...so could 15 other teams..im not even sure what that means

You're the one who seems infatuated with signing every big name possible, Pugsly.

It means the Eagles could win a Super Bowl in 2010. You said the team that wins in '10 had a better offseason than the Eagles.

There's no point in arguing with you. The Eagles didn't value Boldin as much as you did. Want a tissue? It's time to pull up your big boy pants and get over it.

[Sgt PSN]

mack will never ever be as good as boldin much less next year

can't say that mac will never be as good as boldin.  there's no way of knowing.  who knew that little steve smith would be as dominant as he is.  jerry rice was a 3rd round pick i believe and he's the greatest receiver ever.

i'm not saying that mac will be better than boldin.  but there's no way to know right now.  there's not even a reason to try and predict that right now.  

the only way youd rather have mack than boldin is if youre fixated on the 2012 or 2013 season when boldins play has declined significantly and mack (if he is even playing) might be better

you.  nail.  head.  

if you're andy reid, maclin and jackson are kolb's recievers, not mcnabb's.  mcnabb's job now as far as the eagles are concerned, is to break the young guys in. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

mack will never ever be as good as boldin

This is probably true and an idiotic bunch of garbage all at once.  Nice.

[General_Failure]

except the team that wins the 2010 superbowl

what are you a taterskin fan?

I honestly think this team could win a Super Bowl in 2010, assuming a few things go right for them.

This is the philosophy that keeps the Eagles kinda good every year, but never quite good enough. Relying on luck instead of skill and better gameplanning does not win champsionships. Reid has proven this remarkably well over the last decade.

[ice grillin you]

hes also offseason champ every year which seems to mean a lot to you

of course the eagles could win the superbowl next year...so could 15 other teams..im not even sure what that means

You're the one who seems infatuated with signing every big name possible, Pugsly.

quote me anywhere on any thread where i showed an infatuation with signing "every big name possible"

you dont know me dook...and if you take your headpiece out of banners ass for a second youd see that while i would love to have boldin i never once railed on the team for not getting him...im using boldin as an example of not going all out to win

id actually be suprised if you even really watch games...your argument for everything is trust banner inc. they know what they are doing and you heathens dont...i cant really recall to many things youve said that have to do with actual football...you may have stared longer into joe's swirly lolipop than anyone on earth not named spadaro

mack will never ever be as good as boldin

This is probably true and an idiotic bunch of garbage all at once.  Nice.

cant be true (btw it is 100% true) and garbage

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

cant be true (btw it is 100% true) and garbage

Yes it can.  Boldin is one of the best WR's in the game right now, so it sets the bar pretty damn high for any rookie to be that good.  But on the flip side, presuming to know for certain that Maclin will never be as good as Boldin is not possibly based on fact.

Classic IGY.  Say something that is probably going to end up being right for obvious reasons (in this case, Boldin is just flat-out good).  But, hey, if you do end up being wrong, you'll just say you were thrilled to be wrong!  Yay!

Don't pretend you know more than you do.  You wanted the Eagles to trade for Boldin.  Pretty sure anyone with half a brain would have preferred that.  But you don't know any more than anyone else about how Maclin will turn out as a pro, so step off.  Bitch.

[Kenzinger]

except the team that wins the 2010 superbowl

what are you a taterskin fan?

I honestly think this team could win a Super Bowl in 2010, assuming a few things go right for them.

This is the philosophy that keeps the Eagles kinda good every year, but never quite good enough. Relying on luck instead of skill and better gameplanning does not win champsionships. Reid has proven this remarkably well over the last decade.

Andy Reid's game-day coaching is absolutely awful and I think he should be fired. I also think the lack of talent at wideout has seriously hurt us over the past few years, although right now I think our WR corps is pretty much middle of the road and we could win a Super Bowl with the wideouts we have, if we ran a more balanced offense.

That said, I can't be up in arms about failing to trade for Boldin since none of the other teams that were interested landed him either and we have no idea how serious Zona was about moving him. I also think the FO did a really terrific job this year and probably had the best offseason since '04, so it's kind of hard for me to get all worked up that we didn't sell the farm for a receiver.

My two cents.

[Sgt PSN]

so step off.  Bitch.

[ice grillin you]

cant be true (btw it is 100% true) and garbage

Yes it can.  Boldin is one of the best WR's in the game right now, so it sets the bar pretty damn high for any rookie to be that good.  But on the flip side, presuming to know for certain that Maclin will never be as good as Boldin is not possibly based on fact.

Classic IGY.  Say something that is probably going to end up being right for obvious reasons (in this case, Boldin is just flat-out good).  But, hey, if you do end up being wrong, you'll just say you were thrilled to be wrong!  Yay!

Don't pretend you know more than you do.  You wanted the Eagles to trade for Boldin.  Pretty sure anyone with half a brain would have preferred that.  But you don't know any more than anyone else about how Maclin will turn out as a pro, so step off.  Bitch.

youd have to be an idiot to actually come back and big up yourself by saying mack will never be better than boldin...almost as big an idiot for thinking mack could be better than boldin...its a lock  a given write it down take a picture....and you dont come back on those calls and talk shtein unless youre a douchebag

just be happy if mack is on the team in five years contributing...dont over reach your bounds

so step off.  Bitch.

ahaha

ff is so cute when he gets mad isnt he