A Decade of Andy Reid

Started by PhillyPhreak54, July 19, 2008, 12:05:41 AM

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shorebird

Andy Reid can lick my hairy hanging ball sack.

BigEd76


pinoyboy2pt0

i won't read that bc smallwood is the whiniest little bitch on earth.  i can't stand that guy.  every god damn time he's on DNL he's always shaking his fat farg head looking down and going, "i meeaannn..."

i do agree with that link title though.
Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

General_Failure

On the plus side, Andy might use his discretionary Pro Bowl roster spot on Celek. :D

The man. The myth. The legend.

Don Ho

Oh that's right.  He'll be out here coaching the NFC.  I'll be sure to feed him to the sharks.
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Cerevant

Quote from: BigEd76 on January 18, 2009, 11:19:27 PM
Smallwood: this team will never win with Reid

Damn, this guy read my mind.  In summary:

The Eagles don't suck.
Andy Reid doesn't suck.
Donovan McNabb doesn't suck.

That's the problem.

I believe with the right personnel, Andy Reid can win a Super Bowl.  I believe that if there were someone - a competent GM for example - who could tell the emperor that he has no clothes (or, that he needs a special assistant for clock management) without fear of retribution, that he could be one of the best coaches ever.

If Andy won't gameplan around the talent he has, get someone who will give him the talent his system needs.
If Andy can't see the mistakes in front of his face, make sure his boss can.

The solution to the Eagles problems is not a new coach or a new QB...it is a GM.
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Diomedes

Quote from: Cerevant on January 21, 2009, 05:15:13 AMThe solution to the Eagles problems is not a new coach or a new QB...it is a GM.

I'm willing to entertain this idea.
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Geowhizzer

Quote from: Diomedes on January 21, 2009, 06:43:04 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on January 21, 2009, 05:15:13 AMThe solution to the Eagles problems is not a new coach or a new QB...it is a GM.

I'm willing to entertain this idea.

Most of us would be.  Unfortunately, the Lurie/Banner/Reid regime apparently are not willing.  Gold standard and all.

Diomedes

A while ago we were talking about "if Andy wins it do you cut him some slack." 

If the Eagles stripped him of GM duties and installed a GM--a good one I would hope--then I guess I would give the Eagles a couple years to see how it goes before I revert to calling for Andy's head.

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

mussa

anything, just freaking make something happen. the less decisions the fat man is making the better
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Cerevant on January 21, 2009, 05:15:13 AM
I believe that if there were someone - a competent GM for example - who could tell the emperor that he has no clothes (or, that he needs a special assistant for clock management) without fear of retribution, that he could be one of the best coaches ever.


dont get to watch many eagle games in thunder bay do you

a gm cant and shouldnt tell a coach how to run a game...a gm hires a coach that has the same philosophy as he does...this is why you hire gm's before you hire coaches and why when a new gm is hired the coach generally fears for his job....you cant bring in a gm and then tell andy to disavow himself from everything he believes in...and as much as andy is a horrible game day coach he shouldnt have to switch...andy is what he is and thats not going to change...you want the eagles to run a different offense and call games differently then you need a new coach not a new gm...or you need both...
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Phanatic

A GM is however the boss, and therefore holds the coach accountable. If said coach is not getting something done game in and game out it is the GMs responsibility to right the ship is it not?
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ice grillin you

yes

and you right the ship by firing the person making the same mistakes game in and game out

its not the gm's job to tell the coach how to coach
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 21, 2009, 12:02:30 PM
yes

and you right the ship by firing the person making the same mistakes game in and game out

its not the gm's job to tell the coach how to coach

The difference between a GM being Reid's boss and Lurie/Banner being Reid's boss is that a GM is a football guy and is qualified to tell Reid that he isn't doing his job well.  How does an accountant assess Reid's performance?  Look at the mountain of numbers that already says Reid is a great coach.

What is important is that Reid have a boss who is competant to evaluate the job he is doing and be able to tell him that he is doing it wrong - with the leverage to fire his ass if he doesn't fix it.  That's what I was saying before - I don't think Reid will succeed with the Eagles because he isn't afraid for his job...he has no incentive to change.
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stalker

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Quote from: Cerevant on January 21, 2009, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 21, 2009, 12:02:30 PM
yes

and you right the ship by firing the person making the same mistakes game in and game out

its not the gm's job to tell the coach how to coach

The difference between a GM being Reid's boss and Lurie/Banner being Reid's boss is that a GM is a football guy and is qualified to tell Reid that he isn't doing his job well.  How does an accountant assess Reid's performance?  Look at the mountain of numbers that already says Reid is a great coach.

What is important is that Reid have a boss who is competant to evaluate the job he is doing and be able to tell him that he is doing it wrong - with the leverage to fire his ass if he doesn't fix it.  That's what I was saying before - I don't think Reid will succeed with the Eagles because he isn't afraid for his job...he has no incentive to change.

A good way to look at it. I really agree. That last statement I don't think is valid. No one at that level really has a fear for their job. I think most coaches at that level have a hatred of failure that I am sure Reid has. He is very guarded and none of us really know what he is like. That little glimpse we got after the Giant game was, I thought, very telling. And, his present and former players seem to have a great respect for him.
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