Will He Or Won't He? Dawk Says He'll Be Back

Started by Rome, January 01, 2008, 09:28:38 AM

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Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2008, 08:04:41 AM
when next season starts 06 will be two years gone by...which at dawks age in the nfl is a lifetime ago

You also forget that Dawkins takes care of his body as much, if not more then a guy like TO does. And I'll buy what he said about being too busy with other aspects of life this past off-season to work out like he usually does. Until he proves that he's still playing bad even when healthy, then I'll say it's time to hang em up. But 06, his last full healthy season, he put up almost career numbers.

See how he does this year. If he's not playing as good, keep him one more year after but draft a replacement ASAP.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

ice grillin you

youre assuming he can even stay healthy this coming season...dawk is essentially done...face it...can you get another year out of him possibly...but thats it...and even in 06 it was clear he had lost steps...getting run over and run past more in that year than in his entire career previous...


its much more than being hurt this past season...its time to draft his replacement let him learn under dawk next year and then send dawk out to stud
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 04, 2008, 11:32:34 AM
its much more than being hurt this past season...its time to draft his replacement let him learn under dawk next year and then send dawk out to stud

I mostly agree with this except that I think Dawk can give 2 more years.  But his replacement needs to be addressed now.  Whether it's drafting someone or moving Mikell back over to FS and drafting/signing a SS. 

mussa

Dawk got a few left in him. He's still one of the best safeties in the league and without a doubt the best guy in our secondary. minus last year w/ the injuries he has been the most consistent player on the D overall. Top notch player still at his age. Hall of Fame player. Too bad he won't get a ring with Reid coaching.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: mussa on January 04, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
Dawk got a few left in him.

No, he doesn't.

Quote from: mussa on January 04, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
He's still one of the best safeties in the league and without a doubt the best guy in our secondary.

No, he's not.  And Sheldon Brown had a very strong year and was healthy all season.

Quote from: mussa on January 04, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
minus last year w/ the injuries he has been the most consistent player on the D overall

Sean Taylor was an impact player in 2006 also, and even the first few games of 2007.  The point is recent success or failure is a much better indicator of future contributions than distant past.

Quote from: mussa on January 04, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
Top notch player still at his age.

There is no reason to believe that right now.

Quote from: mussa on January 04, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
Hall of Fame player.

I hope so.

Quote from: mussa on January 04, 2008, 02:47:42 PM
Too bad he won't get a ring with Reid coaching.

Well, no shtein.

PhillyGirl

You know, speaking of Sheldon Brown (sorry to go off topic here)...the toolbags on DNL were talking about how he shouldn't be a starting CB, he should be a #3? wtf is that all about?
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ice grillin you

its ridiculous...sheldon gets more hate for a good player than anyone i can remember (quarterbacks dont count)
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 04, 2008, 03:48:52 PM
its ridiculous...sheldon gets more hate for a good player than anyone i can remember (quarterbacks dont count)

You're new to philly sports, aren't you?
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Rome

Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 04, 2008, 03:44:59 PM
You know, speaking of Sheldon Brown (sorry to go off topic here)...the toolbags on DNL were talking about how he shouldn't be a starting CB, he should be a #3? wtf is that all about?

It's about them not understanding the game of football whatsoever.

Brown is an exceedingly competent cornerback.  He's not the best cornerback in the NFL but he's a solid, reliable player who shows up every week and hits like a motherfarger.  He gets burned occasionally but there isn't a cornerback in the league who doesn't.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 04, 2008, 03:48:52 PM
its ridiculous...sheldon gets more hate for a good player than anyone i can remember (quarterbacks dont count)

Its the same way with alot of players here, man. The media and the WIP hacks start a hate train and it spills over to the fans.

There's always, at least in the minds of alot of the media in Philly, another guy out there who can do better than what is already here.

And when said replacement does arrive, he is then picked apart in the same fashion.

General_Failure

It seems an unusual amount of grief for a player who, to my knowledge, doesn't say a whole lot and was never expected to be any better than he is.

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ice grillin you

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 04, 2008, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 04, 2008, 03:48:52 PM
its ridiculous...sheldon gets more hate for a good player than anyone i can remember (quarterbacks dont count)

Its the same way with alot of players here, man. The media and the WIP hacks start a hate train and it spills over to the fans.

There's always, at least in the minds of alot of the media in Philly, another guy out there who can do better than what is already here.

And when said replacement does arrive, he is then picked apart in the same fashion.


i knew someone would turn this into a wip/philly media thing...when in fact they both love sheldon...i was referring to this board mostly...and the "other board"
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

shorebird

It's a shame Dawk won't get a ring. More than any player on this team, and possibly any Eagle ever, he deserves it. He laid his guts on the field every game, and yes, with what went on last offseason, he deserves the benefit of the doubt and shouldn't have his starter status questioned at all by the fans, FO or coaching staff if he can come into camp healthy.

He'll never be the player he was 3-5 years ago, but still could play at high level if healthy, imo.

QB Eagles

Who here hates Sheldon? That's a retarded viewpoint that can't be defended.

Rome

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2008, 10:26:06 AMi knew someone would turn this into a wip/philly media thing...when in fact they both love sheldon...i was referring to this board mostly...and the "other board"

No one here hates Sheldon to my knowledge.  The EMB, obviously, is a different animal altogether.