The observation thread

[BigEd76]

Well he can't say anything about free agents yet and they'll likely miss out on Kenny Phillips, so for now that's all he can say.

LBs....it'll probably be Gocong/Gaither/Spikes again with Bradley rotating in at SAM or MIKE, Gaither moving out to WILL, maybe moving Gocong to DE once in a while.  Might even see some 3-4....

[ice grillin you]

that would be something else if jj ran a 3-4 set but i just dont ever see it happening

[Munson]

Did Davey tell you that, Ed? I'd like to see some 3-4 here and there.

Speaking of Spadaro, he's going up to my family's house in Reading in the next couple of weeks to do a story on our Eagles room and how freakishly obsessed with the Eagles we are. Awesome.

Except for it being Spadaro...the only cool part is the only reason why he's doing it is because the doctor for the Flyers and now the Eagles home games, Gary Dorshimer, is friends with the family and has gone up to watch the game with my family 2 or 3 times this year, and recommended it to Spadaro.

You all care.

And I don't think I said anywhere that Gocong was playing at a "high" level, I just said he's played a lot better then IGY is willing to give him credit for because it's one of those players that IGY has predisposed hate for.

[BigEd76]

That's all from Roob

[Munson]

Don't lie, Ed. You knew all that yourself.

[ice grillin you]

And I don't think I said anywhere that Gocong was playing at a "high" level, I just said he's played a lot better then IGY is willing to give him credit for because it's one of those players that IGY has predisposed hate for.

wrong chief...on sundays when youre sleeping off a fake hangover from your fake drunken night before im watching the game...then im watching the game again during the week

other than seeing a highlight of his brady sack tell me what youve seen out of gocong this year

he hasnt been breaking up passes...or creating turnovers or living in the backfield...so please tell me what has he done?...your best answer is that hes not as bad as i say...thats not a very strong defense of a player...especially when i havent said hes the worst linebacker in the league or anything....ive merely stated what ive seen this year and that is not very much...of course if you can show me some evidence to the contrary ill glady change my predisposed notion of gocong

[SD_Eagle5]

To me it makes too much sense to move Bradley to the SAM full time and rotate GoCong with the DE's. GoCong doesn't look bad rushing the passer out of a 3 point stance. He has a decent burst and outside move plus it's his normal position.
As much as Howard's been a disappointment I've noticed the last half of the season he's looked decent in a rotation with the DTs.

[reese125]

that would be something else if jj ran a 3-4 set but i just dont ever see it happening

I dont think we have good enough LB's right now to run a 3-4, no way.

As far as Gocong, he has miles to go before he can be considered anything better than average. Until he goes through a full season at DE and shows some serious potential as a rush threat every play, he'll be just that.

I think if anyone has the most potential its Gaither, who was ranked 19th in the NFC for tackles and one of the best in assists--meaning he was all over the ball. Thats nice to see. He has rising potential

[General_Failure]

Tackles don't mean shtein. They're counted by the teams themselves, and the stat by itself doesn't note any difference between a tackle in the backfield and one made 25 yards down the field that the defender was just dragged through. Assists is even worse.

[Sgt PSN]

Assists is a pretty meanless stats.  Quite possibly the most meaningless in all of sports.  Yes, more so than VORP. 

[Munson]

And I don't think I said anywhere that Gocong was playing at a "high" level, I just said he's played a lot better then IGY is willing to give him credit for because it's one of those players that IGY has predisposed hate for.

wrong chief...on sundays when youre sleeping off a fake hangover from your fake drunken night before im watching the game...then im watching the game again during the week

other than seeing a highlight of his brady sack tell me what youve seen out of gocong this year

he hasnt been breaking up passes...or creating turnovers or living in the backfield...so please tell me what has he done?...your best answer is that hes not as bad as i say...thats not a very strong defense of a player...especially when i havent said hes the worst linebacker in the league or anything....ive merely stated what ive seen this year and that is not very much...of course if you can show me some evidence to the contrary ill glady change my predisposed notion of gocong

I don't care how drunk I get on a saturday night, my ass is up at 12:45 every sunday for football. Especially if the Eagles are on at 1. I watch and understand the game a hell of a lot more than you, but whatever you want to believe bud.

I don't think anyone expected Gocong to come in and be a  play maker his first year starting in a position he's never played in a defense that has a complex scheme. But I also don't think anyone expected him to be as solid as he has been. He's made some tackles in the backfield, he's stuffed some guys at the line, and whether you want to admit it or not, his play against the run is at least PART of the reason why the run defense has improved so much this year. It was his first year starting at LB in JJ's defense. And he's done better then I expected. I'm more then willing to let him play SAM again next year to see if he can make any "big plays" with another year of experience in the system/at the posistion. I've seen a guy that really started to improve after the first few games of the season.

And his pass protection hasn't been horrible either. He's obviously not the sole guy responsible for the TE, but the SS play hasbeen below average this year, and who has hurt them from the TE spot this year other then Witten? Cooley had a TD catch in the first meeting but that was one of only two catches for 25 yards.  In fact, they only gave up THREE TD's to TE's all year this year. And the only guy to get over 75 yards on them? Jason Witten. 113 and 77 yards. Gocong, though unspectacular, has done something right this year. Yet you're willing to crown Bradley the next coming based on ONE game.

Good job.

[Rome]

Here's another reason to love Sheldon Brown:

Cornerback Sheldon Brown said he would not want to be rested for such a game.

"As a player, you want to play in that game," he said. "And I know most coaches would want to win that football game, because that's what they preach. Besides, you don't really want to take a week off and lose that chemistry."

Note how he said "most coaches" after Reid said he'd rest his starters.   

[ice grillin you]

To me it makes too much sense to move Bradley to the SAM full time and rotate GoCong with the DE's. GoCong doesn't look bad rushing the passer out of a 3 point stance. He has a decent burst and outside move plus it's his normal position.
As much as Howard's been a disappointment I've noticed the last half of the season he's looked decent in a rotation with the DTs.

i havent seen enough of bradley to make a definitive judgement but in the small amount i have seen him he has way more explosion than gocong...also not having seen him enough im not sure what hed be more suited at sam or mike...all i know is goconghas to be set up to make a play but scheming him...where as it appears bradley can go and make plays...sd youre the fifth or sixth person (i dont count that moron munson) on the board that has spoken of gocongs burst to the point im almost doubting what my eyes have seen...maybe im not seeing something i should...like i said i hope im wrong

good point on howard..i wouldnt mind at all to see him in the DT rotation next year...tho they may need his money to improvetheir salary cap situation

[MadMarchHare]

Howard's paid far too much to play situational DT.  Take a huge pay cut or GTFO.

[Diomedes]

I don't really care to see Howard or Kearse on the team any more unless they sign deals at vet minimum with performance escalators.