The observation thread

Started by dpierce, October 22, 2007, 02:36:55 PM

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Sgt PSN

Was reading the weekly power rankings on espn and this is the little tidbit they had next to the Eagles:

QuoteFifteen teams currently have losing records, but only one has outscored its opponents -- the Eagles, with a point differential of plus-13 (281 to 268).

Obviously this is a product of the Lions game but for the Eagles to still be at +13 this late in the season is pretty telling about the defense and how they've at least managed to keep the Eagles in every single game this year.  Without looking it up, I think the biggest loss the Eagles had this year was the Giants game @ NY when they lost by 13 points.  But the defense only gave up 16 points in that loss. 

Christ the offense is horrible. 

rjs246

Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 19, 2007, 12:38:12 PM
Was reading the weekly power rankings on espn and this is the little tidbit they had next to the Eagles:

QuoteFifteen teams currently have losing records, but only one has outscored its opponents -- the Eagles, with a point differential of plus-13 (281 to 268).

Obviously this is a product of the Lions game but for the Eagles to still be at +13 this late in the season is pretty telling about the defense and how they've at least managed to keep the Eagles in every single game this year.  Without looking it up, I think the biggest loss the Eagles had this year was the Giants game @ NY when they lost by 13 points.  But the defense only gave up 16 points in that loss. 

Christ the offense is horrible. 

Forgetting about the first Dallas game, are we?
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Sgt PSN

Trying to.  Thanks for bringing that up.  21 point loss.  Other than NY and Dallas though, I just checked and every other loss has been by a TD (+2 pt conv) or less.  Point is, the defense has kept them in most games this year. 


rjs246

Right. I mean, I see the scores and I see the numbers and it all points towards the defense being good, but they're inability to make key stops or, perhaps more importantly, win a game or two on their own with a key turnover or a touchdown. They have been just good enough to make the losses close and that sucks pretty hard.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

so every game theyve lost has been by a td or less...except the games that were more by than a td
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: rjs246 on December 19, 2007, 01:02:26 PM
Right. I mean, I see the scores and I see the numbers and it all points towards the defense being good, but they're inability to make key stops or, perhaps more importantly, win a game or two on their own with a key turnover or a touchdown. They have been just good enough to make the losses close and that sucks pretty hard.

True to an extent.  I think they've played better as the year has gone on.  There were quite a few changes on defense from last year to this year.  We all like to look at the Chicago game and how they couldn't stop Brian Griese and an inept Bears offense as the tell all for this defense.  And yes, they should have come up with a stop, not disputing that.  But I've also seen them mature and play better since then as well.  

They gave the offense the ball twice in the final few minutes against the Patriots while trailing by 3 points and the offense turned it over twice.  

Seattle did almost nothing offensively all day.  All but one of their scoring drives started in Eagles territory because of turnovers.  

The defense gave forced a turnover and got the ball back to the offense in the closing minutes against the Giants.  

And in the Dallas game I felt that when the Eagles kicked their last FG that they would lose because I didn't think the d be able to keep Dallas out of the endzone for an entire game but they did.  Yeah, Dallas had questionable playcalling and less than stellar play from Romo but these weren't all unforced errors.  The D played a role in that.  And they got the turnovers when they needed them.  

This isn't a "great" defense by any means and it pales in comparison to previous defenses we've seen here.  But by no means is this the bad defense that I think many of us expected going into the season either.  It's a good and solid defense.  And there's quality youth now too with Bunkley, Cole, Patterson and dare I say Gocong to go along with a couple of young vets like Brown and Tito.  There's a lot there to build with.    


Sgt PSN

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 19, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
so every game theyve lost has been by a td or less...except the games that were more by than a td

Right.  And did you notice that they've shut out every opponent except for the ones who scored points? 

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

phattymatty

Odd stat:

the eagles are 6-0 this year when outscoring their opponents.

SunMo

finally some good football talk!
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MDS

Rosen/Ryan doing the game. I imagine it's only going to Philly/NO markets. Maybe some others down south, but who lives there besides poor people?
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Oppressed minorities and wealthier ex-northerners also.


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Rome

Quote from: MDS on December 19, 2007, 01:55:27 PM
Rosen/Ryan doing the game. I imagine it's only going to Philly/NO markets. Maybe some others down south, but who lives there besides poor people?

Your birth parents.

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Rome