Giants at Eagles WILDCARD Game Thread

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, January 07, 2007, 01:34:55 PM

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General_Failure

I think we can reach a middle ground here. We can blame just Reid and Trotter. That works for me.

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SunMo

Trotter can be blamed for other stuff though, like for being old and slow now.
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General_Failure

Reid's older and slower. Get rid of both of them!

The man. The myth. The legend.

PhillyFan

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 08, 2007, 11:55:41 AM
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 08, 2007, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 08, 2007, 11:35:40 AM
we shouldn't be complimenting him for making one move that a pee-wee league coach or retarded monkey could make.  his time management was horrible as usual yesterday.

It's not his fault Garcia called a time out instead of letting the clock run down to the two.

Not talking about that particular TO.  That was all on Garcia, no doubt about it.  

But the Eagles had an opportunity to stop the clock on defense with about 45 seconds left of the clock in the first half.  The Giants were out of timeouts and were facing a 3rd down.  About 20 or so seconds ran off the clock before the Eagles took a TO.  That extra time would have been nice to have when the Eagles got the ball back to try and at least get a FG attempt out of it.  Instead, they took over with about 11 seconds left on the clock.  That falls directly on Reid and his in game suckiness.  


I had no problem with them waiting to call that TO.  In fact I didn't think they should have called one at all.  They had the momentum from just scoring and were going to get the ball back at the half.  There have been too many fluky things in games agains the Giants this year and in years past to risk giving them more time to convert that 3rd and go down and recover some of the momentum before the half.  Hell, they later converted when they faced a 2nd and 30!

The NFL game is all about momentum.  There are times when you need to be aggressive in order to gain that momentum or extend it and there are times where it's better to be safe to avoid giving the other team some.  The good coaches know when to pick the right spots.  

Ultimately they won and the Eagles are now in the divisional round for the 6th time in 7 years - the only team in the league to have done that over that time period.  They lead the league in regular season wins, division titles and championship game appearances during that stretch also.  

But yeah, I guess it is just conincidence that a team does that with such an awful head coach, a tightwad owner, and poor draft pick choices.  

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyFan on January 08, 2007, 02:32:22 PM

Ultimately they won and the Eagles are now in the divisional round for the 6th time in 7 years - the only team in the league to have done that over that time period.  They lead the league in regular season wins, division titles and championship game appearances during that stretch also. 

But yeah, I guess it is just conincidence that a team does that with such an awful head coach, a tightwad owner, and poor draft pick choices. 

typical apologist garbage.

is that all you care about?  playoff appearances?  how about titles?  how about more than one Super Bowl appearance?  this conference has been substandard for years now and they have nothing to show for it.  but to you, that's ok.  that's your problem, not ours.

and not trying to get points at the end of the half when you have a timeout and almost 40 seconds is MORONIC, but that falls right in line with your "well, this is good enough" philosophy.
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Somewhere between 30-40 million watched the game. Rupert Murdoch gets more money, yay.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Yeti on January 08, 2007, 02:48:11 PM
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The two needn't be mutually exclusive.

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Quote from: PhillyFan on January 08, 2007, 02:32:22 PM
The NFL game is all about momentum.  There are times when you need to be aggressive in order to gain that momentum or extend it and there are times where it's better to be safe to avoid giving the other team some.   

The Eagles had the momentum and plenty of time to get the ball back and attempt to drive a nail into the Giants coffin.  Instead, Reid let 20 seconds run off the clock before making a decision.  The fact that the Eagles botched that opportunity may infact have given the Giants new life as indicated by them basically outplaying the Eagles for much of the 2nd half. 

QuoteThe good coaches know when to pick the right spots.

Why bother arguing if you're just going to make my points for me? 

Yeti

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Diomedes

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 08, 2007, 02:57:58 PMInstead, Reid let 20 seconds run off the clock before making a decision.

That's exactly right.  He simply didn't know what to do.  Infuriating.
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Geowhizzer

Quote from: EagleFeva on January 08, 2007, 12:28:03 PM
I think that was the play that I officially lost my voice on.

3rd and 12... when Considine gets over there... he has to be under control.  Get in front of Plax and make him come to him.  If nothing else, it'll slow him up until the rest of the D can get over to help.  He just goes flying over there and runs and slips right past Plax giving him nothing but open field to pick up the 1st.

They converted a farging 1st and 30....  :boom

Yep.  I nearly lost my television on that one.  I ranted for a good two minutes about the need to square up on the tackle, using a lot of colorful words.

PhillyPhreak54

I was more pissed that Johnson blitzed Sheldon on that one and left Considine alone on Plax.

Wanna blitz a corner? Blitz the one who isn't lined up on the only WR worth a shtein.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 08, 2007, 08:13:34 PM
I was more pissed that Johnson blitzed Sheldon on that one and left Considine alone on Plax.

Wanna blitz a corner? Blitz the one who isn't lined up on the only WR worth a shtein.

Speaking of coaches not learning from their past mistakes........

What it up with JJ thowing the house on 2nd and 30 and giving up 18 yards to Burress and then doing it again on 3rd and 12?  The last time the Eagles blitzed the Giants like that, Plexiglass beat Sheldon down the field in OT for a score. 

The first play to Burress he was well covered and just made a damn good catch but on the 2nd one, Considine was no where near him when he caught the ball and if the throw would have been a little lower then he wouldn't have even had a chance to whiff on the tackle. 

JJ's been dialing up good blitzes and an all around pretty good game plan in recent weeks but he pretty much got schooled again by the Giants on those 2 plays. 

NGM

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 08, 2007, 08:49:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 08, 2007, 08:13:34 PM
I was more pissed that Johnson blitzed Sheldon on that one and left Considine alone on Plax.

Wanna blitz a corner? Blitz the one who isn't lined up on the only WR worth a shtein.

Speaking of coaches not learning from their past mistakes........

What it up with JJ thowing the house on 2nd and 30 and giving up 18 yards to Burress and then doing it again on 3rd and 12?  The last time the Eagles blitzed the Giants like that, Plexiglass beat Sheldon down the field in OT for a score.   

Yeah dude, I was thinking the exact same goddamn thing.  I was so angry after he did that on third I couldn't even yell.  I just squeezed the shtein out of a pillow. 
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