Eagles - NFC East Champs

[ice grillin you]

like i said you can have your division titles.....if the eagles dont at least make it to the superbowl in this hideous conference then the season was a failure

[Eaglez]

Just enjoy the wins and the way the season unfolded after the horrendous streak of losses and horrible play.

You can bitch and moan all you want about Andy Reid, but he's been coaching great as of late and he has been a pretty darn good coach throughout his tenure. Yeah, he has his moments. But there aren't many coaches in the league who have been as successful and have won more games. Overall, he's been a better coach than a lot give him credit for, and it borderlines retarded to continue to call for his head after the way the team has responded down the stretch.

[ice grillin you]

hes 18-38 all time against winning teams

hes cost the franchise at least one superbowl

i laugh at people who all of a sudden love him as a coach because he was so bad at calling plays he had to give it up

its possible that with him not having to worry about meddlesome things like play calling that he can better guide the team and will win a superbowl...ill give him the benefit of the doubt on that since he just recently made a major change in his direction...but what i wont do is make him into a good coach because he made the playoffs in a league that came dangerously close to having a 7-9 playoff team

[shorebird]

hes 18-38 all time against winning teams

Were did you get that? Link?

[Eaglez]

Reid has called some great games. Reid has called some piss poor games. I'm not going to wish him out of Philly because he still continues to win and the Eagles have been successful during his tenure. Who are you going to bring in? Is someone going to step in and just take the team to the Super Bowl with a whole new offensive and probably defensive (assuming that JJ leaves if Andy leaves) scheme?

It just seems difficult to justify starting from square one with a new coaching staff when Reid was able to make adjustments (realize that his playcalling was getting stale and get a fresh perspective in there), and get this team into the playoffs playing their best football of the year. The Eagles 2nd and 3rd team beat the friggin' Falcons 1st team tonight. The team has a good deal of confidence and if you are going to bury the coach when the team looks uninspired you have to give him SOME credit when the team looks confident and is playing at a high level.

Andy wore too many hats and now maybe he is finally realizing that it is OK to delegate assignments to people who are competent in performing. Good leaders know how to delegate work and put the best people in a position to perform. Andy has done that as of late. You can argue that maybe he did it too late, but I don't think you can deny that he took those steps and the team is responding. He's a good coach; and I don't think you can win the division 5 out of the last 6 years unless you are one.

Andy is better than most. And considering there isn't a viable replacement the utter hatred for Reid seems wholly irrational at this juncture.

[The BIGSTUD]

hes 18-38 all time against winning teams

hes cost the franchise at least one superbowl

i laugh at people who all of a sudden love him as a coach because he was so bad at calling plays he had to give it up

its possible that with him not having to worry about meddlesome things like play calling that he can better guide the team and will win a superbowl...ill give him the benefit of the doubt on that since he just recently made a major change in his direction...but what i wont do is make him into a good coach because he made the playoffs in a league that came dangerously close to having a 7-9 playoff team

People praise him now because he held the team together, not him giving up playcalling duties. The team could've very well quit, but Andy kept them together.

[BigEd76]

[PhillyPhreak54]

Eagles are 22-8 in December since 2000

[Eaglez]

That winning team stat can be deceptive. Is it winning teams at the time the Eagles played that team or the team's record at the end of the year? A lot of teams could play the Eagles, suck balls and have a losing record that that time, and then go on and end up having a winning season -- the reverse could be true as well. It depends on when you begin recording that stat.

You can tick and tack and be petty all day long, but the Eagles have had a stretch of success that has rarely been witnessed in the Eagles' contemporary history. It will seemingly all be tarnished if a Super Bowl win doesn't come out of it, but I can at least appreciate a team that gives me something to root for year in and year out.

Like I said before, in this league, all you really need is a ticket to get in and be playing well at the end of the year. The Eagles have both. So we'll see what they do and I'll be there enjoying every minute of it.

Phreak, half of those losses came last season, too.

[Feva]

But this thing was against all odds... and anyone with half a brain (including us) wrote us off for any kind of playoff appearance... let alone another division title.  The NFC East was supposed to be too stacked for the Eagles with a healthy McNabb... let alone with Jeff farging Garcia.

i dont disagree with any of this...but if they lose to the giants next week does the nfc east title still mean something to you?

division titles mean something to the cardinals or the browns...or even the eagles in 2001...not to this eagle team tho...not after four nfc title games

You're right... if they lose to the Giants, that puts a nasty ass taste on this thing... no doubt about it.  But given our situation this year... it's still an accomplishment.  One to be proud of.

Now it's up to the Eagles to make it hold up.

I think we can all agree though... that the division crown isn't the ultimate goal.  If the NFC was any good... this would be possibly all we could hope for.  But given the state of the conference now... why not us?

[Geowhizzer]

why not us?

THERE'S this year's playoff slogan.

[General_Failure]

If the NFC was any good...

We'd be talking about the draft.

[Eagaholic]

The only thing I don't like about an otherwise terrific day all around, is Baskett leading the NFL with 177 yards and a TD. Now the tream will be all the more tempted to think it's fine to let Stallworth go and have Baskett as the #2.

[Munson]

The only thing I don't like about an otherwise terrific day all around, is Baskett leading the NFL with 177 yards and a TD. Now the tream will be all the more tempted to think it's fine to let Stallworth go and have Baskett as the #2.

I hope not. I like Baskett, but as the #3 guy. Stallworth is such agood fit in this offense...please please please resign him.

[shorebird]

If the NFC was any good...

We'd be talking about the draft.

Some of us already were. http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19161.0