Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[ATV]

THIS MONEY DOESN'T EXIST.  IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD THE PROGRAMS ARE OR AREN'T.

True. Neither did the previous 700 billion (or whatever it was), though. Neither did all the debt that principally Reagan and Bush accumulated to artificially make the economy look better. I'm not sure it will work but I'm not sure we have much of a choice. This is probably the government's last chance. If things aren't turned around then it/we might fold it up.

Kunstler did warn us about this Long Emergency, though....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Emergency

[phillymic2000]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/06/stimulus/index.html

Yay they did it, I'm so proud of these guys and gals.

One other thing on this bill, I think it's strange that some on here are all pissy with the fuss put up over this bill. Just because it has been done like this in the past does not make it ok. Mr. President promised everyone "change" this is not change this is more of dems and repubs taking advantage of the situation. This is business as usual. I say Booooooooooo to this bill, but here is hoping I am wrong and it does what they are saying it will do.

[phillymic2000]

THIS MONEY DOESN'T EXIST.  IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD THE PROGRAMS ARE OR AREN'T.

True. Neither did the previous 700 billion (or whatever it was), though. Neither did all the debt that principally Reagan and Bush accumulated to artificially make the economy look better. I'm not sure it will work but I'm not sure we have much of a choice. This is probably the government's last chance. If things aren't turned around then it/we might fold it up.

Kunstler did warn us about this Long Emergency, though....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Emergency

Funny, when Bush was in office he's all you wanted to talk about, now hes gone and you can't stop do you have a crush?

[General_Failure]

What is the statute of limitations for talking about a president's policies and decisions?

[Geowhizzer]

What is the statute of limitations for talking about a president's policies and decisions?

Since some were bringing up FDR and the New Deal earlier in the thread, I'd say it was at least 70 years.

I can't wait for the debate on Washington's handling of British impressments.

[phillymic2000]

I don't know, let me know when we can start talking about our current Presidents claims of change, tax dodging, no lobbyists, claims that he will answer questions on those items and has yet to have a open press conference about them.

[rjs246]

... and has yet to have a open press conference about them.

Well it has been a whole three weeks. How dare he not answer every single negative thing anyone has said about him by now! There's hardly anything else for him to be doing at the moment.

[ATV]

Mr. President promised everyone "change" this is not change this is more of dems and repubs taking advantage of the situation. This is business as usual.

While I hoped for better I think one could easily argue that Obama has already demonstrated more patience, and the willingness to work with, the minority party than Bush ever did.

Funny, when Bush was in office he's all you wanted to talk about, now hes gone and you can't stop  do you have a crush?

Uhh, what? Kunstler? Yea, now that Bush is out office I should stop liking him.

[ATV]

let me know when we can start talking about our current Presidents claims of change, tax dodging, no lobbyists,

Pathetic.

[ice grillin you]

so the answer is no, you don't care to outline. 

and I know why you don't care to outline. 

you don't know.  you just know it's Rush hip to oppose it, but don't know exactly what you oppose and have not done any of your own homework or thinking.

clown
ass clown
gay ass clown

exactly...these people have no clue what they are talking about...pork is just a really cool word to throw out there...it sounds neat and its all the rage right now...talking point extrodinairre...

just because the senate (btw both dems and pubs) cuts shtein out of a bill doesnt mean its pork...dems might cut some shtein out that they dont agree with and pubs likewise...for example the birth control money that was cut out was 100% not pork...its just something that freaks out bible thumping zealouts on the right which constitutes their base thus it was unacceptable to them...but it wast pork

[phillymic2000]

While I hoped for better I think one could easily argue that Obama has already demonstrated more patience, and the willingness to work with, the minority party than Bush ever did.

What? Are you insane, busting out "I won" and railingagainst them on the bill has to be passed now. Keep smokin whatever Dio is giving you.

[Seabiscuit36]

Maverick

[ice grillin you]

I don't know, let me know when we can start talking about our current Presidents claims of change, tax dodging, no lobbyists, claims that he will answer questions on those items and has yet to have a open press conference about them.

tax dodging im guessing youre referring to his appointments??...he went on a national tv spree after daschel and said i quote "i screwed up"...to me that was pretty astonishing and a breath of fresh air compared to someone like bush who said he never heard of jack abramoff


its little things like that that equal the change hes talking about...its not much but christ hes been in office for 20 days


youre a pathetic little man...much like your hatemongering heroes rush limbaugh jesse helms dick cheyney david duke et al

[phillymic2000]

so the answer is no, you don't care to outline. 

and I know why you don't care to outline. 

you don't know.  you just know it's Rush hip to oppose it, but don't know exactly what you oppose and have not done any of your own homework or thinking.

clown
ass clown
gay ass clown

exactly...these people have no clue what they are talking about...pork is just a really cool word to throw out there...it sounds neat and its all the rage right now...talking point extrodinairre...

just because the senate (btw both dems and pubs) cuts shtein out of a bill doesnt mean its pork...dems might cut some shtein out that they dont agree with and pubs likewise...for example the birth control money that was cut out was 100% not pork...its just something that freaks out bible thumping zealouts on the right which constitutes their base thus it was unacceptable to them...but it wast pork

You make my point this has been going on for a long time and Mr. President promised change, this is not change, fargin almost 600billion of it won't be spent right away, so why do we need such a fargin huge bill so quickly. You can call names all you want, but stuff like this baffles me:

We need help now - not in 2010 (when $356 billion will be spent), not in 2011 and after (when $293 billion will be spent). If more than 60 percent of the spending comes well over a year from now, that's not stimulating - that's just teasing us.quote]

[phillymic2000]

I don't know, let me know when we can start talking about our current Presidents claims of change, tax dodging, no lobbyists, claims that he will answer questions on those items and has yet to have a open press conference about them.

tax dodging im guessing youre referring to his appointments??...he went on a national tv spree after daschel and said i quote "i screwed up"...to me that was pretty astonishing and a breath of fresh air compared to someone like bush who said he never heard of jack abramoff


its little things like that that equal the change hes talking about...its not much but christ hes been in office for 20 days


youre a pathetic little man...much like your hatemongering heroes rush limbaugh jesse helms dick cheyney david duke et al

You make a good point on that one igy, and none of these people are my heros. But nice of you to pick up with the usual defensive mode of Dio