Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Geowhizzer]

It has nothing to do with seeing the candidates stand..I know that's pretty much set. But I still don't know which one I trust more. Or whose goals have a more realistic chance of being accomplished, there's the issue of VP as well. There are stances that both candidates are taking that I agree with. (obviously not opposing points)

In 04...I was no fan of George Bush...but I could not stand Kerry. I couldnt, in good conscious vote for either one.

Terrible election choices.  If I vote I may have to vote for the person who will confiscate the least amount of my money.

Would that be directly through taxes or indirectly because of sweetheart deals with big business?

[rjs246]

It would be his (and every other conservative's) ready-made excuse to never vote for anyone who isn't a Republican.

[Cerevant]

Yeah, borrow and spend is so much better than tax and spend.  With borrow and spend, as long as inflation outpaces the deficit, then our debt as a % of GDP keeps going down.  Everyone knows that's the only thing that matters.

[ATV]

[Seabiscuit36]

you really are tarded

[Diomedes]

I like that illustration a lot

[ice grillin you]

Just go ahead and vote for McCain as you've intended to do all along

EXACTLY

mccain could be the biggest sellout in the history of politics yet these out of control obama haters are reaching so hard to try and talk anyone they can to not vote for him...its just pathetic...is barrack perfect...of course he isnt...i myself a huge barry supporter pointed out during the primary that he isnt god and i got crucified for it by stepfords like cervent and pg...and even ff who laughably supported obama (even tho hes just as soon have him lynched as win the presidency) just because they hated hillary so much...


but the bottom line is that barry is a light at  the end of the tunnel that is the darkness of this current administration....and a light that we havent seen in a long time in politics...will this brightness shine upon all of us?...who the hell knows...but we should all take our chances on that versus the darkness that is john mccain and his carrying on of the bush legacy

No one ever said he was God. Exaggerate much? I laughed at you because all you did was talk about how this country would NEVER elect a black president...and all signs point to it happening. You thought Hillary would crush him in the primary.

ha please...99% of your flying off the handle posts had to do with me saying hillary wasnt out of it yet or hillary was making smart political moves and you taking it as if i was slamming barry....it had nothing to do with my proclamation that amerikkka would never elect a black president....dont make me pull them up...basically hillary was your adam eaton during the primary...

as for a black man getting elected president i still dont believe it and wont back off from it until im proven wrong and if i am ill be the first to admit it and swallow my crow

[General_Failure]

as for a black man getting elected president i still dont believe it and wont back off from it until im proven wrong and if i am ill be the first to admit it and swallow jim crow

Easy there fella.

[ice grillin you]

ha...nicely done

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It's nice that just now we're talking about balancing the budget.

Frankly, it pisses me off that it's been shoved under the rug until now.  Let's see if Obama responds in kind or if he would rather shoot some B.S. back so that he won't break any false promises once elected.

[Cerevant]

What a huge steaming pile of horseshtein.

Let's see, he won't touch military / homeland security spending, he'll just cut entitlements... by 81%.  That's a head scratcher, but hey - he's a republican.  Oh, but then he's going to give businesses a 10% tax break, give a gas tax holiday, phase out the AMT, and give $5k back to pay for health insurance.  How is he going to make this work?

He's going to unilaterally declare that the US will end its dependence on foreign oil, which will lower gas prices.  How is he going to drive this point home?  Drill more oil wells which won't be producing for 10 years.  Oh, and about refining...

On the wings of all these tax cuts and cuts to domestic spending, he declares that there will be economic growth.  Even though the value of the dollar is collapsing under the weight of federal and individual debt, the economy will boom.  Even though the trade deficit is at a record high and growing, the economy will recover on the basis of...what exactly?

But, of course he won't have to deliver on any of these promises.  Why?  Here are the three pillars of his plan:

--"Reasonable economic growth. Growth is an imperative – historically the greatest success in reducing deficits (late 1980s; late 1990s) took place in the context of economic growth."

--"Comprehensive spending controls. Bringing the budget to balance will require across-the-board scrutiny of spending and making tough choices on new spending proposals."

--"Bi-partisanship in budget efforts. Much as the late 1990s witnessed bipartisan efforts to put the fiscal house in order, bi-partisan efforts will be the key to undoing the recent spending binge."

Damn those Democrats (who hold a majority in both the house and senate)!  If it weren't for them I could have achieved all my goals.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

he won't touch military / homeland security spending

Your reading comprehension is a bit lacking.  It specifically says that spending will be reduced and that all net differences will go to the deficit and not to other spending.

[Cerevant]

The McCain administration would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit. Since all their costs were financed with deficit spending, all their savings must go to deficit reduction.

Sorry John, thought we were going to be there 100 years?  Or is he talking about the savings since W declared "Mission Accomplished" in 2003? 

There are clear and bold statements about cutting and "reforming" domestic spending, but there isn't a single unconditional statement about reducing military spending.  Not one.

[ice grillin you]

who was the last presidential candidate that said they wouldnt try to balance the budget...some actually do it but they all say it...

[ice grillin you]

The McCain administration would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit.

that is an unbelievable statement