Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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Drunkmasterflex

QuoteAmerica deserves another four years of war

Says the guy who sits safely behind his computer.
Official Sponsor of #58 Trent Cole

The gods made Trent Cole-Sloganizer.net

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." George Orwell

Cerevant

*sigh*  So much for going quietly...

QuoteMay 8, 2008


Senator Barack Obama

Obama for America
P.O. Box 8102
Chicago, IL 60680

Dear Senator Obama,

This has been an historic and exciting campaign. Millions of new voters have been brought into the process and their enthusiasm for the Democratic Party and the principles for which you and I have fought and continue to fight is unprecedented.

One of the foremost principles of our party is that citizens be allowed to vote and that those votes be counted. That principle is not currently being applied to the nearly 2.5 million people who voted in primaries in Florida and Michigan. Whoever emerges as the Democratic nominee will be hamstrung in the general election if a fair and quick resolution is not reached that ensures that the voices of these voters are heard. Our commitment now to this goal could be the difference between winning and losing in November.

I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted.[well, since I started losing, anyway] We cannot ignore the fact that the people in those states took the time to be a part of this process and to make their preferences known. When efforts were untaken [sic] by leaders in those states to hold revotes to ensure that they had a voice in selecting our nominee, I supported those efforts. In Michigan, I supported a legislative effort to hold a revote that the Democratic National Committee said was in complete compliance with the party's rules. You did not support those efforts and your supporters in Michigan publically [sic] opposed them. In Florida a number of revote options were proposed. I am not aware of any that you supported. In 2000, the Republicans won an election by successfully opposing a fair counting of votes in Florida. As Democrats, we must reject any proposals that would do the same.

Your commitment to the voters of these states must be clearly stated and your support for a fair and quick resolution must be clearly demonstrated.

I am asking you to join me in working with representatives from Florida and Michigan and the Democratic National Committee to arrive at a solution that honors the votes of the millions of people who went to the polls in Florida and Michigan. It is not enough to simply seat their representatives at the convention in Denver. The people of these great states, like the people who have voted and are to vote in other states, must have a voice in selecting our party's nominee.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

Well, now we know what the story is going to be for the next 3 weeks.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Rome

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 08, 2008, 04:44:31 PM
QuoteAmerica deserves another four years of war

Says the guy who sits safely behind his computer.

I never said that people such as yourself deserve to be stuck in Iraq or god knows where else.  But remember this... you volunteered to serve in the military, so don't blame me for pointing out that we, as citizens, are getting exactly what we deserve for electing the clown who put you and your brothers and sisters in arms in your current situation.

Rome

She deserves to be crammed into a cannon and blasted into oblivion.

PoopyfaceMcGee

There would be nothing more unfair than counting results after saying the contests didn't count.

The management of this primary is an unprecedented display of dumbassery by the DNC.

Enjoy McCain, idiots.

ATV

QuoteHoward Dean and the rest of the louts at the Democratic Party should be ignored no matter what their counsel is.  They lost not once but TWICE to the likes of George W. Bush
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Dean is actually 1-0 versus the Pubes (the 2006 election). Dean never got his shot versus them in 2004.

Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: Rome on May 08, 2008, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 08, 2008, 04:44:31 PM
QuoteAmerica deserves another four years of war

Says the guy who sits safely behind his computer.

I never said that people such as yourself deserve to be stuck in Iraq or god knows where else.  But remember this... you volunteered to serve in the military, so don't blame me for pointing out that we, as citizens, are getting exactly what we deserve for electing the clown who put you and your brothers and sisters in arms in your current situation.

I am completely aware of that.  No one "deserves" war, including the Iraqis, Afghanis, whoever. 
Official Sponsor of #58 Trent Cole

The gods made Trent Cole-Sloganizer.net

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." George Orwell

shorebird

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 09, 2008, 05:24:37 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 08, 2008, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 08, 2008, 04:44:31 PM
QuoteAmerica deserves another four years of war

Says the guy who sits safely behind his computer.

I never said that people such as yourself deserve to be stuck in Iraq or god knows where else.  But remember this... you volunteered to serve in the military, so don't blame me for pointing out that we, as citizens, are getting exactly what we deserve for electing the clown who put you and your brothers and sisters in arms in your current situation.

I am completely aware of that.  No one "deserves" war, including the Iraqis, Afghanis, whoever. 

.......but there are those who bring it on themselves. And, there are those for whom war is a way of life.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 09, 2008, 05:24:37 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 08, 2008, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 08, 2008, 04:44:31 PM
QuoteAmerica deserves another four years of war

Says the guy who sits safely behind his computer.

I never said that people such as yourself deserve to be stuck in Iraq or god knows where else.  But remember this... you volunteered to serve in the military, so don't blame me for pointing out that we, as citizens, are getting exactly what we deserve for electing the clown who put you and your brothers and sisters in arms in your current situation.

I am completely aware of that.  No one "deserves" war, including the Iraqis, Afghanis, whoever. 


word up
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Diomedes

The Bush Cheney cabal deserves war.  They deserve to eat each others entrails and die together.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

PhillyGirl

"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

fansince61

#4061
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
2 is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest

2 is absolutely correct.  If Obama loses #2 will be what will have the party officials banging there heads on the wall (in private of course).

ice grillin you

its a neat story but theres no way it happened


but if true party officials wont bang their heads hillary clinton will
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

I think it is more likely that Penn was assuming that Hillary would win 70-80% of the delegates in the big states.  If you look at the graphs I've posted, that was the margin she was showing in 2007.  The real mistake was underestimating the impact of early Obama mania.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

ice grillin you

i agree with that i just find it hard to believe that mark penn one of the best and most experienced politcal men around would not know how the delegates are distributed in democratic primaries
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous