Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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Rome

Obama can scream "change" all he wants but the bottom line is this country is still racist, still mostly conservative, and still highly religious.

And racist, conservative religious nuts will not vote for a black man from Chicago.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2008, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on February 06, 2008, 09:45:59 AM
Every single one of the major candidates is a practicing Christian.


so what....theres nothing wrong with being a christian but when you say that the bible is more important than the constitution and thats how the country should be goverened youre taking it way beyond the practice of any religion...

and im sorry anyone who is a creationist can not and should not be taken seriously...i wonder if he believes in gravity...i bet not

I think you're failing to realize that a prerequisite for being a Christian is believing that God created the heavens and Earth.  All of the candidates believe this.  The difference between Huckabee and the rest is that he appears to want to put everyone who doesn't into some sort of camp.

ice grillin you

Quote from: FastFreddie on February 06, 2008, 10:27:48 AM
I think you're failing to realize that a prerequisite for being a Christian is believing that God created the heavens and Earth.  All of the candidates believe this.  The difference between Huckabee and the rest is that he appears to want to put everyone who doesn't into some sort of camp.


im not sure any of the other candidates believe that god created the heaves and the earths...i ahvent heard any of them say it anyway...and if that makes them less christian then thats on the religion not them...but even if they do believe that...the belief that a god created the "heavens and earths" is not the same as denying the existence of evolution or photosynthesis gravity fossils and dinosaurs ect....

evangelical christians are a whole different sect than say someone who is religious for the one hour a week they are in church


I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Phanatic

Actually even the hard core conservatives like Rush and Hannity don't think Huckabee was conservative enough. Somehow they were putting all their horses in the Romney camp. He changed his stripes so that they agreed with him on every issue which is what you need to do to get their vote and not be labeled a flaming liberal.

I liked McCain and I'm glad he's getting the nomination but I don't see how he could possibly take the general election. The conservatives are in complete disarray about what their party is even about at this point and most of those hard core voters will stay home most likely. McCain has never fit into their little club as he seems to think for himself from time to time.
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Phanatic on February 06, 2008, 10:41:59 AM
I liked McCain and I'm glad he's getting the nomination but I don't see how he could possibly take the general election. The conservatives are in complete disarray about what their party is even about at this point and most of those hard core voters will stay home most likely. McCain has never fit into their little club as he seems to think for himself from time to time.

in any other year id agree...but wait until one of the possibilites is a black man...and they start actually paying attention to obama...they arent now because its the primarys but come the general they will start really looking at their opponent...and when they see obama rallys with lots of coloreds behind him and stump speeches that sound like black church rallys with the "aw yeahs" and "uh huhs" after each of his lines they will freak the farg out and make sure that isnt the future of the country

of course this is all dependant on obama getting the nom...if hillary gets it then i think your point is well taken
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 06, 2008, 10:40:19 AM
the belief that a god created the "heavens and earths" is not the same as denying the existence of evolution or photosynthesis gravity fossils and dinosaurs ect....

That, I agree with.  But everyone who believes part of it is a "creationist".

Quote from: Phanatic on February 06, 2008, 10:41:59 AM
Actually even the hard core conservatives like Rush and Hannity don't think Huckabee was conservative enough. Somehow they were putting all their horses in the Romney camp. He changed his stripes so that they agreed with him on every issue which is what you need to do to get their vote and not be labeled a flaming liberal.

I've said this all along.  Huckabee's social views make most people think he's an extremist (and he is socially), but his fiscal policy in Arkansas was extremely moderate as is his platform nationally... and that's what the Rushes and Hannitys care about: $.

Romney's running on a "Reaganomics" platform, but both him and McCain have gone right to seek the nomination.  The only difference is that McCain has a deeper voting record to prove he's not a party-lines conservative, and that scares the little underpants off of the pundits that march along the party platform line like it's impossible it could be wrong in any place.

Phanatic

I looked over McCain's voting record and he's very consistent over the years. He crosses the isle on certain things like McCain / Feingold to get things done and that is really what scares them because apparently working with the democrats is akin to working with Al Qaeda...
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Father Demon

I was going to post the same thing Romey posted -- I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a McCain - Huckabee ticket.  That will capture so much of the conservative vote, I don't see how the dems could pull off a victory over that.

The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

Cerevant

It is all about getting the vote out, and swaying the independents.

An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Rome

Indies are going to line up behind McCain.  Obama's only hope is to get the youth vote out and sway hispanics to his side.

Neither of those two things are going to happen, though.

ice grillin you

Election offices in Virginia have reported a spike in applications for absentee ballots, and registration figures show a surge in interest from voters younger than 25.

That could be good news for Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) in his matchup against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) for the Democratic nomination. National public opinion polls indicate Obama leads Clinton by wide margins among young voters.

Between Jan. 1 and 14, which was the last day to register in time to vote in Virginia's primary, the state board registered 37,500 new voters. Of those, 22,500 were younger than 25.

"In 14 days, that is a lot of newly registered voters," Pollard said. "I think it is definitely indicative of the interest people have in these upcoming primaries, and when you look at the newly registered voters, that is a sizeable amount of young voters voting for the first time."

Yesterday, Obama picked up support from Alexandria Mayor Bill Euille, Norfolk Mayor Paul Fraim, Roanoke Mayor Nelson Harris and Charlottesville Mayor Dave Norris. Richmond Mayor L. Douglas Wilder endorsed Obama last month.

In a conference call with reporters, Norris said he is "quite confident" Obama will carry Charlottesville because many students at the University of Virginia are enthusiastic about him. "One of the exciting things about Obama is he has inspired so many young people to get involved in politics," Norris said.
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

phattymatty

i've never seen so many people in my generation and younger so interested in an election before, and obama is the main reason.  it's gong to be a record voting turnout this year, for sure. 

phattymatty

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 06, 2008, 11:25:19 AM
Indies are going to line up behind McCain.  Obama's only hope is to get the youth vote out and sway hispanics to his side.

Neither of those two things are going to happen, though.

not sure why you think indies are going to line up behind mccain.  lots of people are indies because they are against the exact thing that mccain is doing right now, which is to switch sides on every issue to appease the party.

rjs246

This country would be a much different place if young people would vote regularly.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Sgt PSN

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Quote from: rjs246 on February 06, 2008, 11:42:55 AM
This country would be a much different place if young people would vote regularly responsibly.