Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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PhillyPhreak54

Good speech by Joe.

Boebert and Large Marge are scumbag losers

SD

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 01, 2022, 10:59:08 PM
Good speech by Joe.

Boebert and Large Marge are scumbag losers

Deplorables

Was nice to hear an adult give the sotu address. Thought Biden crushed most of his speech.

Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

PhillyPhreak54

The Russky's have shot up Europe's biggest nuclear facility and it's on fire

No bueno

Rome

If anyone thinks Putin won't use nukes, please remember this act of utter insanity.

He will.  He is evil.  And his command and control over his forces are for shtein. 


MDS

lady g advocating for putins assassination

we're all going to die
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.


PhillyPhreak54


PhillyPhreak54

The front page of the NYT tomorrow is graphic. Russian has opened fire on fleeing civilians and it shows a family of four laying dead in the street; two kids, mom and dad.

I'm not one for censorship when it comes to things like this. Show the world what is really happening. Especially now in a time when misinformation is a click away.


Diomedes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/09/why-ukraine-needs-no-fly-zone/

You don't really have to read this piece to know what it says, and you can find them elsewhere to much the same effect.

And all of them are missing the point.

Yes, Ukraine needs a No Fly Zone.  I think everyone but Russia and its allies (China?) agrees. 

Yes, the West has imposed this action before.

What's not being mentioned in any of the very impassioned pleas for a No Fly Zone:

It is a direct act of war, requiring Western forces (NATO, US, etc.) to actively, directly, shoot down Russian planes.   But that's just the end of it...before you can even do that, you have to make the air space safe(ish) for the "good guys," which means, eliminating every possible anti-aircraft installation that covers the space you're going to restrict.  In this case--different from Iraq and Syria and other places where a no fly has been established--that means bombing many many facilities within Russian borders, as they've got almost the entirety of Ukraine airspace covered. 

So when you see someone saying we should set one up, ask them if they think it's a good idea to bomb Russia and then shoot down their planes.  And remind them that Russia has about 4,500 nukes at the ready. 


Completely different scenarios than we've faced before.  A no-fly zone would very likely be the start of a world war, and China might side with Russia. 

It's awful what Russia is doing and we have a real problem on our hands, but a No Fly Zone would make matters worse.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

PhillyPhreak54

Totally agreed.

Not that it'll stop the "durrrrr Biden is weak" bullshtein from the empty headed MAGAts.

Munson

Hey, did you know all these oil price problems could be solved simply by opening up a single pipeline?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds