Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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Geowhizzer

Alaska doesn't have counties - it's counted as a whole.

I'd guess Utah.  Mormons got to stick together!

Third.... some backwoods, rednecky place with no real major cities... West Virginia?

PoopyfaceMcGee


shorebird

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
PC,

The republicans are not coming back until they drastically alter their criteria and mission plan. They're so out if touch it's amazing. So until they do that - they have no shot.

You're absolutly right. Thats exactly what all the right radio was saying yesterday. Do we come out for illegals, gays, and abortion? The repubs are in dissaray right now, wondering what it all means. It means the people have spoke and the country, good or bad, is going in a different direction then they want. They were even talking about what canidate will run in 2016.





Sgt PSN

I think if the GOP suddenly changed their views on any of those issues it would have a hollow ring to it. Individual candidates can pull it off, but if the entire party shifted their stance so dramatically they'd lose what small base they have left and wouldn't gain any new voters in the process.  It would kill their party almost instantly, which wouldn't be such a bad thing. But the dinosaurs running the party will never let that happen.  They'll hold on to the past and will try to shove their outdated views down our throats while slowly watching their party crumble until nothing is left but their rotting corpses.

phillycrew

Quote from: shorebird on November 08, 2012, 08:17:30 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
PC,

The republicans are not coming back until they drastically alter their criteria and mission plan. They're so out if touch it's amazing. So until they do that - they have no shot.

You're absolutly right. Thats exactly what all the right radio was saying yesterday. Do we come out for illegals, gays, and abortion? The repubs are in dissaray right now, wondering what it all means. It means the people have spoke and the country, good or bad, is going in a different direction then they want. They were even talking about what canidate will run in 2016.
Nope, we continue to stand for principle.  If the GOP stops standing for something and becomes the party of low taxes, they have effectively conceded the moral ground to the democrats and become the party of greed.  I have what I have and you can go buzz off.  This ignores the fact that many wealthy vote Democrat that is not in their own economic interest or the blue collar guy that votes Republican.  I reject the notion that Americans will vote based solely on race.  Each election will be won or lost on the strength of the candidate.  Obama can't run again and we will have to see who the Dems have to offer.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: phillycrew on November 08, 2012, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 08, 2012, 08:17:30 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
PC,

The republicans are not coming back until they drastically alter their criteria and mission plan. They're so out if touch it's amazing. So until they do that - they have no shot.

You're absolutly right. Thats exactly what all the right radio was saying yesterday. Do we come out for illegals, gays, and abortion? The repubs are in dissaray right now, wondering what it all means. It means the people have spoke and the country, good or bad, is going in a different direction then they want. They were even talking about what canidate will run in 2016.
Nope, we continue to stand for principle.  If the GOP stops standing for something and becomes the party of low taxes, they have effectively conceded the moral ground to the democrats and become the party of greed.  I have what I have and you can go buzz off.  This ignores the fact that many wealthy vote Democrat that is not in their own economic interest or the blue collar guy that votes Republican.  I reject the notion that Americans will vote based solely on race.  Each election will be won or lost on the strength of the candidate.  Obama can't run again and we will have to see who the Dems have to offer.

Just out of curiosity, what "principle" is it that the GOP stands for?  And are you suggesting that the Dems, Libertarians or Green Party are lacking principle?  Please elaborate. 

 

Rome


PoopyfaceMcGee

I'd be cool with the two-party system morphing into a Democrat/Libertarian split. Kill social conservativism for good.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: FastFreddie on November 08, 2012, 10:01:33 AM
I'd be cool with the two-party system morphing into a Democrat/Libertarian split.

Disagree because 1 of the parties would basically have to take on a stance that is the exact opposite of the other party.  It'd be the same old shtein in a new wrapper. 

QuoteKill social conservativism for good.

If only it were that easy. 

Tomahawk


phillycrew

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2012, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: phillycrew on November 08, 2012, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 08, 2012, 08:17:30 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 07, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
PC,

The republicans are not coming back until they drastically alter their criteria and mission plan. They're so out if touch it's amazing. So until they do that - they have no shot.

You're absolutly right. Thats exactly what all the right radio was saying yesterday. Do we come out for illegals, gays, and abortion? The repubs are in dissaray right now, wondering what it all means. It means the people have spoke and the country, good or bad, is going in a different direction then they want. They were even talking about what canidate will run in 2016.
Nope, we continue to stand for principle.  If the GOP stops standing for something and becomes the party of low taxes, they have effectively conceded the moral ground to the democrats and become the party of greed.  I have what I have and you can go buzz off.  This ignores the fact that many wealthy vote Democrat that is not in their own economic interest or the blue collar guy that votes Republican.  I reject the notion that Americans will vote based solely on race.  Each election will be won or lost on the strength of the candidate.  Obama can't run again and we will have to see who the Dems have to offer.

Just out of curiosity, what "principle" is it that the GOP stands for?  And are you suggesting that the Dems, Libertarians or Green Party are lacking principle?  Please elaborate. 


GOP has stood for support of the military, families, limited government and the nobility and the sanctity of human life.  Libertarians fundamental principle is individual liberty.  Democrats support the principles of justice, protection of the environment and individual rights and freedoms.  I think that many of the principles overlap but when it comes time for conflicting principles, each party promotes the principle that they believe is the correct answer.

MDS

Quote from: FastFreddie on November 08, 2012, 06:26:39 AM
Utah, Nebraska, Oklahoma

this is the closest.

technically there are four, i forgot about utah.

alaska (counted as 1 country i.e. the obvious one)
utah
oklahoma
WEST VIRGINIA how did no one guess this worthless state
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Sgt PSN

I know, right?

Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 08, 2012, 05:55:37 AM
Alaska doesn't have counties - it's counted as a whole.

I'd guess Utah.  Mormons got to stick together!

Third.... some backwoods, rednecky place with no real major cities... West Virginia?

PhillyPhreak54

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/politics/why-romney-lost/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

QuoteMany campaign aides pointed the finger at Sandy, the punishing superstorm and October surprise that razed the East Coast and consumed news coverage for what was supposed to be the final full week of campaigning.

Analysis: Obama's new Democratic majority

It upset the dynamic of a campaign that had been reset during the first debate in Denver, where Obama delivered a wilting-flower act in full view of the American populace that allowed Romney to seize control of the race and set the terms for the final fall sprint.

The storm, former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour told CNN on Sunday, "broke Romney's momentum."

After being criticized in the media for focusing on "small things" like Big Bird and "Romnesia," Sandy offered Obama a chance to once again look presidential.

There also are very real hard feelings inside the Romney camp about the way New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, seemed to lavish praise on Obama in the wake of Sandy's destruction, allowing Obama to appear bipartisan just as Romney was attacking him for being petty and partisan.

"He didn't have to bear hug the guy," complained one Romney insider.

"It won't be forgotten easily," grumbled another about Christie.

Opinion: Obama will get little time to celebrate

Social conservatives blame squishy positions

As Romney aides began the soul-searching that usually follows a loss, Republicans outside the campaign began pointing fingers at the team.

Some social conservatives were quick to rip open barely healed wounds, claiming that Romney's squishy positions on abortion and same-sex marriage -- closely scrutinized during both of his Republican primary campaigns -- left grass-roots Republicans uninspired.

"What was presented as discipline by the Romney campaign by staying on one message, the economy, was a strategic error that resulted in a winning margin of pro-life votes being left on the table," said Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the anti-abortion Susan B. Anthony List.

Some wondered aloud about the selection of Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as Romney's running mate, suggesting that a Republican from a more winnable battleground state might have made a difference.

GOP retains grip on House

"Rob Portman would've been worth 1% in Ohio," said former Ohio GOP Chairman Kevin DeWine. "Marco Rubio would've been worth a point in Florida. Bob McDonnell would've been worth a point in Virginia."