Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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SD


Eagles_Legendz

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Pretty sure about a year ago I saw an episode of the Daily Show where Stewart said something like on average less than one cent of taxes each year goes to federally funded abortions.  I don't have the exact number, but the idea that an actual portion of your tax $ is going to abortions is ridiculous.

Munson

Yeah, when they say "regardless of ability to pay", they're not talking about tax dollars going towards abortion.


But I also don't really care if tax dollars go towards helping women afford abortions. If we're not going to spend it on better sex education so that people aren't making accidental babies, and we're not going to spend it on supporting the unwanted children who are born (through education, food, shelter, etc), then it needs to be spent on not bringing them into this world in the first place.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

rjs246

Seriously. The miniscule amount spent on an abortion pales in comparison to the amount spent on supporting the life of an unwanted child who is statistically way more likely to end up in jail costing us even more money.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: rjs246 on September 05, 2012, 10:21:39 AM
Seriously. The miniscule amount spent on an abortion pales in comparison to the amount spent on supporting the life of an unwanted child who is statistically way more likely to end up in jail costing us even more money.

As logical as this is, I'm still not really in favor of tax dollars being used to fund abortion even if it is just a penny on the dollar.  Maybe I'm being too considerate of other people's feelings on this one, but abortion is an issue that I don't think the gov't should have any business being involved in other than keeping it a legal practice and protected choice option.  Just trying to see things from the other perspective because if I were anti-abortion, I'd be absolutely outraged if any portion of my tax dollars (no matter how small) were being used to fund it. 

Munson

Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 05, 2012, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 05, 2012, 10:21:39 AM
Seriously. The miniscule amount spent on an abortion pales in comparison to the amount spent on supporting the life of an unwanted child who is statistically way more likely to end up in jail costing us even more money.

As logical as this is, I'm still not really in favor of tax dollars being used to fund abortion even if it is just a penny on the dollar.  Maybe I'm being too considerate of other people's feelings on this one, but abortion is an issue that I don't think the gov't should have any business being involved in other than keeping it a legal practice and protected choice option.  Just trying to see things from the other perspective because if I were anti-abortion, I'd be absolutely outraged if any portion of my tax dollars (no matter how small) were being used to fund it.

But, as Dio said, you can't have it both ways. If you don't wanna help prevent unwanted children from being brought in the world, then you damn sure better be ready to help support them. They can't be your poor fellow American citizen until they cross out of the womb, when they become lazy entitled poor people.

Anyway, the original point is that they weren't talking about federal dollars going towards abortion. They were mostly talking about things like taking federal funding away from PP, which would hurt their ability to provide all the services they provide (including abortion services) without raising the prices a little. I know you understand this, apparently Hawk does not.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

rjs246

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Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 05, 2012, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 05, 2012, 10:21:39 AM
Seriously. The miniscule amount spent on an abortion pales in comparison to the amount spent on supporting the life of an unwanted child who is statistically way more likely to end up in jail costing us even more money.

As logical as this is, I'm still not really in favor of tax dollars being used to fund abortion even if it is just a penny on the dollar.  Maybe I'm being too considerate of other people's feelings on this one, but abortion is an issue that I don't think the gov't should have any business being involved in other than keeping it a legal practice and protected choice option.  Just trying to see things from the other perspective because if I were anti-abortion, I'd be absolutely outraged if any portion of my tax dollars (no matter how small) were being used to fund it. 

Whatever, I'm not the morality police. Maybe people don't want the government spending $1.5 of every $1 of tax revenue on wars and policing the rest world, but that isn't how it works. As a society we agree to pay taxes and we elect people to make decisions about how that money is spent. If we don't like it we elect new people, but we don't get to pick and choose where our tax money goes. It's self-indulgent to argue that 'I don't want 1/100th of one cent of my tax dollars to go towards abortion' when we're running up massive debts to fund our efforts to bomb the shtein out of half the middle east.

We don't have a-la-carte taxes. Taxes go to the common good, this isn't a farging lunch buffet.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

but god isnt cool with abortion

whereas he is 100% fine with bombing brown people into oblivion
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

The universe isn't cool with abortion. I'd rather my taxes go towards a child in poverty than to kill them outright. But that's just the way I'm wired.

ice grillin you

im all about population control

to me life doesnt begin until you are born....im all for abortion in the last trimester if thats what the women wants

and even after birth way to much attention is given to babies....for some reason society cares more about a stillborn baby than it does a teenager dying in a car crash...imo one is incredibly tragic whereas the other is oh well have another baby in 9 months
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: SD on September 05, 2012, 11:24:14 AM
The universe isn't cool with abortion. I'd rather my taxes go towards a child in poverty than to kill them outright. But that's just the way I'm wired.
What about Legitimate Abortions?
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

MDS

sassy doesnt want tax payer dollars going to abortion, i dont want my tax payer dollars going to your jarhead buddies so they can kill brown people in some desert wasteland

but thats america. i deal with it. you deal with it.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: MDS on September 05, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
sassy doesnt want tax payer dollars going to abortion, i dont want my tax payer dollars going to your jarhead buddies so they can kill brown people in some desert wasteland

but thats america. i deal with it. you deal with it.

I won't bitch about it in the least be ause its not high enough on my priority list of things i give a shtein about.  I just don't agree with it.  And I've never agreed with the Iraq war and stopped caring about Afghanistan at least 2 yrs ago.

Diomedes

Quote from: Munson on September 05, 2012, 10:44:10 AMThey can't be your poor fellow American citizen until they cross out of the womb, when they become lazy entitled poor people.

That is exactly the "family values" position of Republican scumbags:   before the unwanted child is born to a parent who is unwilling and incapable of raising it, it's a human life, holy and godlike; after it's born the child is just another fraud perpetrated upon the "real Americans" by the "taker class."
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Hawk

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/05/DNC-Chair-Rams-Through-Pro-Israel-Amendment-To-Dem-Platform

Woah... look what's suddenly back in the platform!!

I'm excited for the response of "OMGzzz it's from BREITBART, I'm glad he's dead!!"