Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[bowzer]

Well that certainly is an ignorant and uninformed opinion on the ACLU. Read up.

I'm done responding to you. You're views are so far out of whack with anything I see as a reasonable priority list that I don't even know how to address you without getting angry at this point.

So you defend them following CIA agents, taking their picture, and showing it to Gitmo prisoners?

[bowzer]

A new survey from the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute shows that 89.3 percent of Americans believe the national media played a sizable role in helping to elect President Obama.


And 69.9 percent of respondents view the national news media as intent on promoting the Obama presidency, while 26.5 percent disagreed, and 3.6 percent were unsure.


More than half of those surveyed, 56.4 percent, said the news media are promoting Obama's healthcare reform without objective criticism. Another 39.3 percent disagreed, and 4.3 percent were unsure.


Not really surprising information.

[mpmcgraw]

The media has a huge role in any election.

What are you a farging idiot?

[bowzer]

Way to use Vietnam as an example of the good old days of American war tactics.

Yea I mean we used Agent Orange then so we can use it now too right?

Those disgusting Democratic presidents...

We should prosecute them.  

[bowzer]

The media has a huge role in any election.

What are you a farging idiot?

No because I'm not the sheep.  You are.  
I, on the other hand, will enjoy watching Obama flounder on the big stage.

Ahh... atleast Chavez said he smelled hope... I had butterflies in my stomach.

[mpmcgraw]

Right, I'm the flounder.

I'm not the one who would rather see a person or party fail rather than see the country do well. 

I'm out.

[rjs246]

Way to use Vietnam as an example of the good old days of American war tactics.

Yea I mean we used Agent Orange then so we can use it now too right?

Those disgusting Democratic presidents...

We should prosecute them. 

Did I ever say anything about Republican or Democrat when it comes to torture, smart stuff?

[bowzer]

Right, I'm the flounder.

I'm not the one who would rather see a person or party fail rather than see the country do well. 

I'm out.

Never want to see my country fail.  
But when Obama promotes policies I'm against, I hope those policies fail.
It would be nice if he'd actually back one of our only legit allies, but nope.

[ATV]

On Jan. 21, 1968, The Washington Post published a front-page photograph of a U.S. soldier supervising the questioning of a captured North Vietnamese soldier who is being held down as water was poured on his face while his nose and mouth were covered by a cloth. The picture, taken four days earlier near Da Nang, had a caption that said the technique induced "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning, meant to make him talk."

Lots of propaganda, rarely any links. Take for example his previous assertion that the anti-abortion guy was killed because he was an anti-abortionist. The last I ever heard there was no connection. Like the above example I'd be interested in reading a non-Fox, non-Malkin article about this. But nope.

[Sgt PSN]

Like I said... war is war... and if the information we gained from waterboarding saved American lives.. than I'm all for it.

obviously spoken by someone whose war involvement is nothing more than watching it on cnn in the comfort of your living room.

war is war.  wtf does that mean?  wtf do you know about war?  the only thing that pisses me off more than people who don't see any value in having a military are the people who are all for military action and blowing shtein up and torturing people as long as it's not you firing off a nuke or being in the same room as the person being tortured. 

And to be honest.. to think to this type of stuff hasn't happened in every war since the beginning of time.. you are kidding yourself.

so because people have done things a certain way for thousands of years, it must be on the only way of doing it, right?   christ you're a farging moron.  this is the typical conservative way of "thinking".....and i use that term loosely because being a conservative requires very little thought.  instead, you just do things the way your daddy did them because he did them the way his daddy did them and so on and so forth.  no questioning of the status quo.  do not try and change or improve things for the better.  no need to think outside of the box because you don't even think inside of it. 

torturing, while an acceptable practice 1000 years ago, 100 years ago and even as recently as 50 years ago, is an outdated and uneccessary tactic, especially for the united states.  after all, we are the most "advanced" country in the world.  even more importantly, america's history is deeply rooted in doing things differently rather than conforming to the ways of the old.  since our foundation, this country as a whole has been about progress and innovation.  i hate to think how much further ahead we could be if it wasn't for simple minded neanderthals like you who would rather believe that the world is flat or that man can't fly just because no one had yet to prove otherwise. 

there are effective and alternate means of gaining vital information without torture.  it just requires a little thought and creativeness to figure it out.  but that's something that you and people of your ilk don't really excel at. 

[bowzer]

On Jan. 21, 1968, The Washington Post published a front-page photograph of a U.S. soldier supervising the questioning of a captured North Vietnamese soldier who is being held down as water was poured on his face while his nose and mouth were covered by a cloth. The picture, taken four days earlier near Da Nang, had a caption that said the technique induced "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning, meant to make him talk."

Lots of propaganda, rarely any links. Take for example his previous assertion that the anti-abortion guy was killed because he was an anti-abortionist. The last I ever heard there was no connection. Like the above example I'd be interested in reading a non-Fox, non-Malkin article about this. But nope.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/04/AR2006100402005.html

Thanks.

[Sgt PSN]

Which there is zero proof of.

And where's the proof that it wasn't effective?  Like I said, I'll take the statements of intelligence officials than the word of liberals...

Quickly, go make a pledge to the ACLU... they aren't going to be able to stalk and tail all those CIA agents and take their pictures without more funds...

those same intel officials who said there were wmd's in iraq? 

[bowzer]

Like I said... war is war... and if the information we gained from waterboarding saved American lives.. than I'm all for it.

obviously spoken by someone whose war involvement is nothing more than watching it on cnn in the comfort of your living room.

war is war.  wtf does that mean?  wtf do you know about war?  the only thing that pisses me off more than people who don't see any value in having a military are the people who are all for military action and blowing shtein up and torturing people as long as it's not you firing off a nuke or being in the same room as the person being tortured. 

And to be honest.. to think to this type of stuff hasn't happened in every war since the beginning of time.. you are kidding yourself.

so because people have done things a certain way for thousands of years, it must be on the only way of doing it, right?   christ you're a farging moron.  this is the typical conservative way of "thinking".....and i use that term loosely because being a conservative requires very little thought.  instead, you just do things the way your daddy did them because he did them the way his daddy did them and so on and so forth.  no questioning of the status quo.  do not try and change or improve things for the better.  no need to think outside of the box because you don't even think inside of it. 

torturing, while an acceptable practice 1000 years ago, 100 years ago and even as recently as 50 years ago, is an outdated and uneccessary tactic, especially for the united states.  after all, we are the most "advanced" country in the world.  even more importantly, america's history is deeply rooted in doing things differently rather than conforming to the ways of the old.  since our foundation, this country as a whole has been about progress and innovation.  i hate to think how much further ahead we could be if it wasn't for simple minded neanderthals like you who would rather believe that the world is flat or that man can't fly just because no one had yet to prove otherwise. 

there are effective and alternate means of gaining vital information without torture.  it just requires a little thought and creativeness to figure it out.  but that's something that you and people of your ilk don't really excel at. 

And it's been said that we didn't get any information from the 9/11 mastermind, until we waterboarded him.  So like I said, if it saved lives.. it saved lives.

I've had relatives fight in every single war dating back to the Civil War... including my dad.

Conservatives talk about war.. cause we are the ones fighting them... Liberals are sitting at home bitching about us being at war in the first place.

[NGM]

Right, I'm the flounder.

I'm not the one who would rather see a person or party fail rather than see the country do well. 

I'm out.

Never want to see my country fail.  
But when Obama promotes policies I'm against, I hope those policies fail.
It would be nice if he'd actually back one of our only legit allies, but nope.

Wow, that is almost a direct quote from Rush Limbaugh bowzer.  And you talk about sheep...

[bowzer]

Right, I'm the flounder.

I'm not the one who would rather see a person or party fail rather than see the country do well. 

I'm out.

Never want to see my country fail.  
But when Obama promotes policies I'm against, I hope those policies fail.
It would be nice if he'd actually back one of our only legit allies, but nope.

Wow, that is almost a direct quote from Rush Limbaugh bowzer.  And you talk about sheep...

Is it?  I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh.  I do remember him catching flack for saying he hopes Obama fails.

I never said that though. I said I enjoyed watching him flounder as he fails on the big stage.  Promising to get rid of all our nuclear weapons?  Seriously??  What sense does that make? Let's get rid of our nukes so the only ones in position of them are rogue nations and our enemies?